Hi,
Do we know what is Sony's commitment to the Smartwatch 2? I've heard that now that the Smartwatch 3 is around the corner with Android Wear that Sony would discontinue the development of the current OS for their Smartwatch 2... Any one can comment on this?
Thanks
Sony is not a charity organization - so it would be very wondering if they'd support OS for a much longer time. Maybe Sony could open more apis and more code in order to give independent developers a chance to keep SW2 alive...
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Well... I don't think it's charity. They are still actively selling the Smartwatch 2. I would like to assume that they are not selling a product that is already eol.
I've never seen an advertising for SW2... Never seen someone presenting SW2. Sony Support Website Germany just has a section for SW1 not for SW2 - they don't show a single picture of it in support website - just of SW1.... I don't think there's much active selling... They only give smartwatch 2 as present for buying their mobiles.
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Trespassing said:
I've never seen an advertising for SW2... Never seen someone presenting SW2. Sony Support Website Germany just has a section for SW1 not for SW2 - they don't show a single picture of it in support website - just of SW1....
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http://www.sonymobile.com/de/products/accessories/smartwatch-2-sw2/
http://www.sonymobile.com/de/support/accessories/smartwatch-2-sw2/
It is listed as accessory (de:Zubehör).
Crazy... Maybe I've mixed something up. Thanks.
But in general this doesn't change the current fact that they will have to sell SW3 and won't use SW2-like OS in later Watches (approved by Sony Support)... Also there were no updates for extensions or new ones during months. And they tell hard - and software won't be able to solve an extension for example Lifelog or Socialife. Because of this lie you can say, that they aren't interested in keeping os alive in order to push SW3
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(...) that they aren't interested in keeping os alive in order to push SW3
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IMHO if they want independent developers to start creating apps for SW3, they should keep SW2 alive at least as long, as we have earned (on paid apps) enough to buy SW3. I love gadgets, but business is business. They cost a lot, and I can't have birthdays every half a year.
I know what you mean...
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I'm still holding out hope they'll launch the real successor to the SW2, that they must have been developing.
I'd love to know what it was, I imagine the hardware was that of the SW3, with much developed SW2 software.
AlexOB1 said:
I'm still holding out hope they'll launch the real successor to the SW2, that they must have been developing.
I'd love to know what it was, I imagine the hardware was that of the SW3, with much developed SW2 software.
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Given the amount of time the Android Wear SDK has actually been in development I'd wager that the "real successor" to the SW2 has always been the SW3 with Android Wear.
Belkiolle said:
Given the amount of time the Android Wear SDK has actually been in development I'd wager that the "real successor" to the SW2 has always been the SW3 with Android Wear.
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I was thinking today that perhaps the large, unexpected SW2 update a few months back was just Sony releasing whatever updates were ready for release, from stuff that was being prepared for a SW2 successor, before all work was stopped and the development direction switched to Android Wear.
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I don't think development was stopped spontaneously... They've time tables which tell them when there will be a cutting line.
I've often asked Sony about different updates, fixes and new features... every single question was answered with "sorry, that's not possible for SW2"... so it sound kinda definite, that they aren't interested in going on with SW2.
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Looking at the map for Android Wear development, it seems clear that, with the SW2, Sony has already gone where Google intends to go. With the help of a number of great independent devs of course. It is a shame that it is obviously not financially viable or good business sense for Sony to continue updates or support for the SW2. Entirely because it is built on a proprietary OS. Expect to see Sony's commitment evaporate very quickly.
It would be generate some goodwill amongst customers if Sony released any left over SW2 sources or apis or whatever. But if there is any cross over with any SW3 Sony-unique Android Wear development that Sony will use to set themselves apart in the Android Wear market, that will not happen. With all the hardware pretty much the same as reference designs, every company will need to work to set themselves apart on the software front and I expect Sony to acknowledge that.
I intend simply to enjoy my SW2 while it, and Sony support, lasts. When I finally need to replace my SW2, I will go for something with a far better screen than ANY of the current smartwatchs offer. I will also expect an upgrade in function so it would have to be better than the iwatch.
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I will also expect an upgrade in function so it would have to be better than the iwatch.
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I don't see any big advantages of an iwatch. Ok, hardware is good - but in general it does nothing different to our SW2 or the Wear-Watches. It's also just notification pushing and controlling the phone's behavior like an external remote.
Belonging to storage and cpu, SW2 offers the best solution with proprietary OS. It's battery saving and doesn't need many resources. Wear and iOS watch need too much resources just to keep alive the OS.
Next watch, if SW2 will die some day, would be something else with proprietary OS. Maybe wear watches will get more updates and APIs, ok... but in general newer Apps will follow the provided resources of further watches in future. So a 2014 Wear device won't solve all new Apps and APIs but has to live with less battery life. Therefore I can stay with my SW2 and feel happy not having the need to recharge battery twice a week or three times a week or more (Greetings to Motorola [emoji12])
I'd like to see a Smartwatch acting deeper in android system.
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Thoughts
Well they will stop support eventually.
But I am working on making custom firmwares so when that happens we wont be left with no new updates and features.
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I don't see any big advantages of an iwatch. Ok, hardware is good - but in general it does nothing different to our SW2 or the Wear-Watches. It's also just notification pushing and controlling the phone's behavior like an external remote.
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Biometrics. Perhaps the iwatch wasn't a good example. I was referring to Biometrics, heart beat monitor, fingerprint scanner that sort of stuff.
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Belonging to storage and cpu, SW2 offers the best solution with proprietary OS. It's battery saving and doesn't need many resources. Wear and iOS watch need too much resources just to keep alive the OS.
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The SW2 does have a slight advantage on battery life but at the expense of function. And as development is ongoing for both Wear and iwatch, and will shortly stop for SW2, that advantage will not last long.
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I'd like to see a Smartwatch acting deeper in android system.
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I don't understand this reference.
Like I said I'm no hurry to replace my SW2, mainly thanks to all the fantastic devs that have sacrificed their time to make so many great SW2 extensions and watchfaces and stuff.
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Now that the whole gear series has gone all Tizen on us.. what is the chance that they will work with non Samsung phones?
Is it going to be like now where you just get the Gear Manager apk working on the other phones and you are good to go? or is it going to be more complicated?
Anyone know anything about this Tizen crap at all?
Shouldn't matter. The thing holding back compatibility is that touchwiz is required on phone
so it should work on non samsung phones just like gear 1?
It already works, only a few thing are missing.
Check gear2neo qa subforum for the working gear manager apk !
It works with my nexus but I dont see the camera app on my Gear 2 Neo and I cant install any 3rd party apps on my watch like evernote and zite.
A little useless...
If you don't have a Samsung phone, why not wait on the Moto 360?
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If you don't have a Samsung phone, why not wait on the Moto 360?
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My sister got an s5 and got it for only $50. She just gave it to me for free.
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If you don't have a Samsung phone, why not wait on the Moto 360?
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Moto360 is one of those things that will one day come but no one can say battery will be good. No speaker phone on the Moto360 either.
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Moto360 is one of those things that will one day come but no one can say battery will be good. No speaker phone on the Moto360 either.
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By the time that notification-only watch comes out, the Gear 3 Solo will land. It's rumored to have its own cellular/data radios.
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By the time that notification-only watch comes out, the Gear 3 Solo will land. It's rumored to have its own cellular/data radios.
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Samsung announced an "Android Wear" version of the gear coming this year as well... now I am second guessing this gear 2! =/ ...just after I took the Gear 1 back and waited for this! ...craaazy lol
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Samsung announced an "Android Wear" version of the gear coming this year as well... now I am second guessing this gear 2! =/ ...just after I took the Gear 1 back and waited for this! ...craaazy lol
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Based on this video, I wouldn't wait on that if you're wanting a "full feature" smart watch. Besides, I think the resale value of the Gear 2 should be decent when they release another successor. So you could sell the Gear 2 just like you did the Galaxy Gear...
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Based on this video, I wouldn't wait on that if you're wanting a "full feature" smart watch. Besides, I think the resale value of the Gear 2 should be decent when they release another successor. So you could sell the Gear 2 just like you did the Galaxy Gear...
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You sound a lot like myself and enjoy all those features that others call "gimmicks". A watch with all the features is exactly why I stuck with the Gear. I wouldn't put it past them to include a front facing camera (even for just the Smart Stay feature alone). But then again, sometimes you have to just stick with something and enjoy what you have. A watch with an IR blaster, Camera, and handling phone calls is a great start for my first... um.. watch? lol... thanks for the advice! =D
p.s. The video just lost some of my interest for Android Wear... thanks for posting that! Im glad Samsung took it to the next level already.
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Samsung announced an "Android Wear" version of the gear coming this year as well... now I am second guessing this gear 2! =/ ...just after I took the Gear 1 back and waited for this! ...craaazy lol
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Don't ask me why, but I believe that watch won't be a flagship product as Gear.
It would be like a WP-like device for Samsung. Samsung also makes WP devices, but they hardly give much attention to that compared to Galaxy devices. Why do you think that Samsung wants Android Wear devices to succeed? They have invested in Tizen, and they want to people to buy into that instead of Android Wear devices. This also gives them a big incentive to control the whole ecosystem with Tizen-based devices.
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Don't ask me why, but I believe that watch won't be a flagship product as Gear.
It would be like a WP-like device for Samsung. Samsung also makes WP devices, but they hardly give much attention to that compared to Galaxy devices. Why do you think that Samsung wants Android Wear devices to succeed? They have invested in Tizen, and they want to people to buy into that instead of Android Wear devices. This also gives them a big incentive to control the whole ecosystem with Tizen-based devices.
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Thats a good point, but on the other hand, the tables are turned in this case. WP has like what, 4% market share, while Android has around 54% or so? It makes sense not to put too much love into WP. In this case, its the opposite where Tizen is .001% (thats a random guess...lol) and Android is way in the lead.
Luckily they talk to each other nicely, and I am assuming Tizen relies mostly on HTML5 and CSS to run apps so its more widely compatible (correct me there if I am wrong). I just know as much time, money and development they have put into Tizen, I could guess (and this is a guess) that they have already spent at least double in android development. I cant see them dismissing this on the same level as WP.
You did make a good point though, we can all tell they really REALLY want Tizen to succeed. lol
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Thats a good point, but on the other hand, the tables are turned in this case. WP has like what, 4% market share, while Android has around 54% or so? It makes sense not to put too much love into WP. In this case, its the opposite where Tizen is .001% (thats a random guess...lol) and Android is way in the lead.
Luckily they talk to each other nicely, and I am assuming Tizen relies mostly on HTML5 and CSS to run apps so its more widely compatible (correct me there if I am wrong). I just know as much time, money and development they have put into Tizen, I could guess (and this is a guess) that they have already spent at least double in android development. I cant see them dismissing this on the same level as WP.
You did make a good point though, we can all tell they really REALLY want Tizen to succeed. lol
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NOTE: This discussion might be OT, but I feel it's important.
You bring up very valid points, I appreciate that. It's good to have such discussions. BTW, Android has around 81% market share (worldwide) according to last IDC numbers.
Yes, Tizen relies of HTML5 and CSS. You have the option to make web apps and also native apps. Gear will (atleast initially) use Web runtime.
The reason why Samsung is investing in Tizen is purely from future perspective. Android doesn't give them total control of the ecosystem. Just have a look at present Android -- Google control Android. If I am brutally honest - the best parts of Android are not open. Google services, apps, maps, youtube, search are not open. You just can't have app store without taking all other google services along with that. Samsung doesn't like that as it limits their chances to create a serviceline of their own. Samsung would love to have have users do everything within their ecosystem. Like after getting a Samsung phone, they would want the users to buy the apps from their store (not Google Play), purchase music from them, rent videos from them etc., So how they plan to do it? They have now tie-ups with Amazon for books, tie-up with Yahoo for various web apps, Nokia Here as default map applications, 7digital, Slacker etc., Samsung also have to think what happens if google decides to keep Android for themselves? or start putting strict conditions to use their services?
Check this Tizen Whitepaper. Some very interesting statements --
Tizen’s open governance – which is designed to prevent any single entity from controlling the platform – will help it avoid the pitfalls of previous broad-based industry initiatives, which ultimately suffered from perceived vendor control.
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Tizen is designed to fill an important gap in today’s smartphone landscape: namely the perceived need for an open platform free from control by a single entity.
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It's not Apple or Microsoft that they are targeting, Google/Android is the target.
Works with Sony Xperia Z Ultra
I can connect with My Sony Z Ultra which is Android 4.3.
But, some functions are not working.
I used Gear Manager from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2677686
CLARiiON said:
NOTE: This discussion might be OT, but I feel it's important.
You bring up very valid points, I appreciate that. It's good to have such discussions. BTW, Android has around 81% market share (worldwide) according to last IDC numbers.
Yes, Tizen relies of HTML5 and CSS. You have the option to make web apps and also native apps. Gear will (atleast initially) use Web runtime.
The reason why Samsung is investing in Tizen is purely from future perspective. Android doesn't give them total control of the ecosystem. Just have a look at present Android -- Google control Android. If I am brutally honest - the best parts of Android are not open. Google services, apps, maps, youtube, search are not open. You just can't have app store without taking all other google services along with that. Samsung doesn't like that as it limits their chances to create a serviceline of their own. Samsung would love to have have users do everything within their ecosystem. Like after getting a Samsung phone, they would want the users to buy the apps from their store (not Google Play), purchase music from them, rent videos from them etc., So how they plan to do it? They have now tie-ups with Amazon for books, tie-up with Yahoo for various web apps, Nokia Here as default map applications, 7digital, Slacker etc., Samsung also have to think what happens if google decides to keep Android for themselves? or start putting strict conditions to use their services?
Check this Tizen Whitepaper. Some very interesting statements --
It's not Apple or Microsoft that they are targeting, Google/Android is the target.
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WOW ...kinda speechless on that white paper. It makes sense... so many are putting all their eggs in one basket. That was the semi beauty of Android... you dont like Samsung, and you can leave that brand and as long as your on Android, all the apps and etc you paid for follow you.
Do you think the entire reason Android Wear exists is because it (Tizen) scares the fire out of Google? I mean look at what all Tizen is capable of running from the G1 to G2/N ...the exact same CPU, and hardware... I think this even has a smaller battery than the previous with nearly double battery life. The dots are starting to connect! ...Let the content owners keep the data...(Amazon for books, tie-up with Yahoo for various web apps, Nokia Here as default map applications, 7digital, Slacker etc.,) and not depend on 1 "play/app store" ...regardless of OS...
I almost want to believe Android is so heavy on the resources that this is why they are wanting to "keep it simple"?
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WOW ...kinda speechless on that white paper. It makes sense... so many are putting all their eggs in one basket. That was the semi beauty of Android... you dont like Samsung, and you can leave that brand and as long as your on Android, all the apps and etc you paid for follow you.
Do you think the entire reason Android Wear exists is because it (Tizen) scares the fire out of Google? I mean look at what all Tizen is capable of running from the G1 to G2/N ...the exact same CPU, and hardware... I think this even has a smaller battery than the previous with nearly double battery life. The dots are starting to connect! ...Let the content owners keep the data...(Amazon for books, tie-up with Yahoo for various web apps, Nokia Here as default map applications, 7digital, Slacker etc.,) and not depend on 1 "play/app store" ...regardless of OS...
I almost want to believe Android is so heavy on the resources that this is why they are wanting to "keep it simple"?
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It's an interesting topic, but I sometimes feel it could get boring for other folks. But following are my own views in this topic:
1] Google would want all vendors simply following their guidelines and simply fighting on the basis of price (similar to laptop vendors). Just look at computers - everything runs Windows and with very little chance of customization. Vendors like HP/Lenovo/Dell simply compete on price or or make more powerful hardware. But look at the profit margin in that industry. Only Microsoft makes money from PC business! That's a cold hard fact. Google wants to do same in mobile space what MS did to desktop computers. Difference is that MS sold software, google wants to engulf everyone in their web services.
2] Samsung doesn't want to be a generic mobile vendor, say like those Chinese companies. The moment Samsung become like everyone else, why would you pay premium for Samsung phones?? That's exactly how Apple is able to always demand premium price for their hardware. At all times, they sold decent hardware with unique software. Samsung knows if you can't be different/unique in this market, you would be left to play the price game. And very soon, the profit margin will decrease to bare minimum.
On Tizen, I think it's pretty good foundation that they have. If you check Tizen 3.0 UI, you will see that they have also adopted flat UI design (Sept 2013 information). We will know which way this is going by Q2. First Tizen phone is supposed to come out by that time.
This is Tizen 2.2. 3.0 is supposed to be come by Q3.
Johnnynho said:
I can connect with My Sony Z Ultra which is Android 4.3.
But, some functions are not working.
I used Gear Manager from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2677686
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Have you gotten 3rd party apps to work on your Gear 2? I mean do you have access on your device to Samsung Apps so you can download apps made for gear 2? I got Nexus 5 and all i can use are the default pre installed apps.
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Have you gotten 3rd party apps to work on your Gear 2? I mean do you have access on your device to Samsung Apps so you can download apps made for gear 2? I got Nexus 5 and all i can use are the default pre installed apps.
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No. Haven't got 3rd arty apps to work as I also don't have Samsung Apps on my Sony Z Ultra.
For me, some pre-installed apps are missing such as Call Log and Media Control. Do you have on your Gear 2?
I picked up a Smartwatch 2 for $60 two days ago at a closing Sony store. I've built AOSP before for my GNexus but that's the extent of my Android dev experience. So with the announcement of Android Wear today and the info from the Open Smartwatch Project I feel life may be telling me to put on the developer hat for real this time and test the waters surrounding porting Android Wear to the SW2. I can't say I'll be successful since I'm obviously in way over my head but sometimes jumping in the deep end is the best way to learn. Any advice or opinions you guys can give me would be much appreciated!
Sounds like a really good idea
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Good luck. Would be interested in testing what you come up with.
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Ready for testing It would be great.
Same here. I would love to try some new things on my SW2.
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SW2 is NOT running android
you probably won't be able to come up with something, sorry
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SW2 is NOT running android
you probably won't be able to come up with something, sorry
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I was thinking the same thing but that's not to say it's not impossible.
Best of luck to you OP.
Not to mention there is no microphone
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SW2 is NOT running android
you probably won't be able to come up with something, sorry
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Thanks, I actually know that it runs microC/OS-II. The chip however is an ARM Cortex M3 which has already had Linux ported to it. I'm also waiting for an Android Wear release because I imagine a lot of these wearables are going to be using these low power ARMs and should provide a platform to start working from. Sony's Bluetooth chip is actually my biggest concern since there's very little documentation for it. Like I said, I'm not sure I'm going to be successful, just going to try.
Please keep up the criticism! Anyone bringing up topics I may not have considered could be helping me find more information!
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Thanks, I actually know that it runs microC/OS-II. The chip however is an ARM Cortex M3 which has already had Linux ported to it. I'm also waiting for an Android Wear release because I imagine a lot of these wearables are going to be using these low power ARMs and should provide a platform to start working from. Sony's Bluetooth chip is actually my biggest concern since there's very little documentation for it. Like I said, I'm not sure I'm going to be successful, just going to try.
Please keep up the criticism! Anyone bringing up topics I may not have considered could be helping me find more information!
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Here is pretty much the only documentation I could find about the SW2's hardware. It does indeed run some form of uC-OS/II on an ARM Cortex-M4 (STM32F4-series system-on-chip), but it's only got 256 KiBs of RAM - if you're skilled and resourceful enough, you might be able to get a uclinux build to run on it (there is one for ST's STM32F4-based Discovery board), but any form of Android is out of the question.
Of course, if you've got the skills, making any sort of third-party code run on the thing would be godly.
Would love to see it running! Here for testing too!
Good luck
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I was really disappointed when i saw Android Wear But then i just realized that our sw2 is way more useful becouse of all its apps (torch, calendar, calc etc) and also for the necessity of Android Wear to use the mic all the time... Just my two cents
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I was really disappointed when i saw Android Wear But then i just realized that our sw2 is way more useful becouse of all its apps (torch, calendar, calc etc) and also for the necessity of Android Wear to use the mic all the time... Just my two cents
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I think that the screen transrefelctive is the best solution for a smartwatch, I selected SW2 for 3 reasons : Screen visible in all conditions (other watch are not visibile so good under the sun light), battery life and waterproof...
Android Wear in my opinion will use more battery, will use lcd or oled screen... 2 reasons to prefer SW2 at the moment...
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I think that the screen transrefelctive is the best solution for a smartwatch, I selected SW2 for 3 reasons : Screen visible in all conditions (other watch are not visibile so good under the sun light), battery life and waterproof...
Android Wear in my opinion will use more battery, will use lcd or oled screen... 2 reasons to prefer SW2 at the moment...
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I'm with you guys, I think I will be happier with the SW2 than the first generation of Android Wear. I expect that will change over time though.
Aside from the voice thing (which is socially awkward) the sw2 would be capable of showing Now cards if there was an api for it. That's all Android wear does at the moment.
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how is this going? even after update i still wanna try this out
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Here for testing as well!
I would love to just be able to flick through notifications and Google Now cards, don't really care about the whole "no microphone" thing. If I need to talk to Google, I'll be on my phone or Google Glass.
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www.clove.co.uk/download.aspx?download=ee0fdaa0-7b8f-47f7-941f-c9baceaf853e
it is a STM32F429
a few other threads about 'open smartwatch' and firmware mods/hacking. there's arduino for the 1st smartwatch
STM32F4 code compiles if you drop it in and make minor changes
https://github.com/underverk/SmartWatch_Toolchain
if sony had a
http://developer.sonymobile.com/services/open-smartwatch-project/smartwatch-hacker-guide/
page like this for SW2 - i think we'd be all good
Hey guys
Im just wondering... it takes them 4 months to implement some new features to this great watch. hello? this feels very weird. Like theres only one person working on the firmware and Software... in such a bigbig company like sony.
I mean the watch works as it is but there are !advertised! features missing for 5 months? even 6? shame on you sony!
Im really not impressed i have to say. It seems like they invest in ads and stuff to sell it. But those who own it are no vips.
Money rules the world guys ;/
Do you have similar feelings?...
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max
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Yeah I give You thumb up with that thread, it is a flag product of smartwaches from Sony and they are giving us few more watchfaces and lack of new features... Please Sony open it! Let Your customers do something bigger with that awsome device.
their lack of communication is what bothers me the most
i never got any answers through facebook, twitter or their own support forum
took them ages to fix a single app (gmail extension) too
not impressed with Sony at all
Thanks for your support guys ! This topic is no good advertisement for them i think.
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took them ages to fix a single app (gmail extension) too
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it was the same with the twitter extension. Twitter changed the way to login (what they usually mention weeks before) and sony updated the extension about 1 month later.
I think they have to realize (and will realize) that for smartwatches, software is at least as important as hardware.
I read our smartwatch does not even support Android 4.4.2 until now. ehh... i dont know what to say...
I haven't seen any advertising for this watch. It's probably true that they don't have many developers working on it. I think they probably aren't making very much money on it is why. Honestly, with the lackluster success of the galaxy gear I really don't blame them for not throwing a ton of money at this watch. I'm just glad they made it. It's hands down the best all around watch on the market.
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agreeing with you mostly
it doesn't explain however why their communication is so poor
if i were a manufacturer and people were reporting their watches falling apart on my own forum, i'd respond quickly and try to resolve it, it's bad PR for things like that to leave dangling
but i'm not a manufacturer, so what do i know
I to have a Sony Smartwatch 2, i like it a lot only i think it is missing some features.
Example: Always On when using Runtastic.
Anyway we should be getting a new firmware with new features.
Source:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/0...ngs-new-watchfaces-and-customisation-options/
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I to have a Sony Smartwatch 2, i like it a lot only i think it is missing some features.
Example: Always On when using Runtastic.
Anyway we should be getting a new firmware with new features.
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/0...ngs-new-watchfaces-and-customisation-options/
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That article and news is about a month old now. The news is promising though.
I know its a minor enhancement, but I really do hope they add more watch faces. The few they offer are nice, but heck, its a watch, so offering more options and hopefully even a way to personalize/customize would be nice. Pebble offers way more choices and some degree of customization, and I am very envious of Gear owners that can easily customize theirs (ranging from copies of famous watches to wild designs of their own). At a minimum it would be great to have more info displayed on the watchface (day/date, more analog options) and added info like number of notifications, or weather.
Then any improvements in the way the watch works with phones, including 4.3 and 4.4 Androids would be great. Better battery life is always a good thing (though I am happy with the 3-4 days I currently get). Changing wallpapers would be nice (though I suspect it will be a short list of choices as opposed to your own custom design eg a picture).
Nomad1600 said:
That article and news is about a month old now. The news is promising though.
I know its a minor enhancement, but I really do hope they add more watch faces. The few they offer are nice, but heck, its a watch, so offering more options and hopefully even a way to personalize/customize would be nice. Pebble offers way more choices and some degree of customization, and I am very envious of Gear owners that can easily customize theirs (ranging from copies of famous watches to wild designs of their own). At a minimum it would be great to have more info displayed on the watchface (day/date, more analog options) and added info like number of notifications, or weather.
Then any improvements in the way the watch works with phones, including 4.3 and 4.4 Androids would be great. Better battery life is always a good thing (though I am happy with the 3-4 days I currently get). Changing wallpapers would be nice (though I suspect it will be a short list of choices as opposed to your own custom design eg a picture).
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Yeah i know it is old, still waiting i suppose they must be testing. Still i have faith that will come out.
From what i saw it will offer:
- Weather report in a watchface
- Turn on notification on apps individually
- Other watchface
- Battery percentage (Watch or Phone? )
Hopefully the feature i requested.
imagine if there is a single developer working in sony for the watch, and he'd reading this now
Hello,
I'm looking to buy a smartwatch and i'm choosing between a sony smartwatch 2 or a android wear device;
If i buy a android wear powered device i will only be able to use it for notifications cause the voice commands will probably not support my language (dutch)
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
is this smartwatch 2 good enough for reading facebook messages, skipping between music tracks, adjusting volume? (and maybe toggling wifi, nfc, etc off on my phone from the watch) and ofcourse checking the time (considering the fact that it only has a 180mhz cpu) ?
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
thanks,
noahvt
It can do all that pretty well. The toggles i think is a paid app though.
I can see the SW2 receiving a decent price drop on Android Wear release.
If it's a cheap smartwatch you want that does the job well then the SW2 will be just that at that time.
If you want the cream of the crop & don't mind paying a little more than the current SW2 price then wait for Android Wear & get one of those.
Either way, I'd say Android Wear will be the deciding factor on further investment or the death of the smartwatch.
@noahvt no support for dutch, where did you get that?
google now responds pretty well to spoken dutch, so i assume google wear will as well
concerning the SW2, yes it can do all of that, most of it for free, might need a paid app or 2, but most of them cost a dollar or less
noahvt said:
Hello,
I'm looking to buy a smartwatch and i'm choosing between a sony smartwatch 2 or a android wear device;
If i buy a android wear powered device i will only be able to use it for notifications cause the voice commands will probably not support my language (dutch)
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
is this smartwatch 2 good enough for reading facebook messages, skipping between music tracks, adjusting volume? (and maybe toggling wifi, nfc, etc off on my phone from the watch) and ofcourse checking the time (considering the fact that it only has a 180mhz cpu) ?
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
thanks,
noahvt
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The SW2 does all of that and you don't even need a Sony phone. Android wear will maybe do half that stuff at best. It's just Google now with rich notifications.
I'm a bit surprised of al this wiping and swiping I see in the different video's on the Net. Looks like one needs to scroll a lot to get to the information you want. I find the icon style on the SW2 easier and it seems faster.
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google is going to add an option for non English language devices so that you can give a command in English and the speak your native a language
example
send message to x
ik zal niet op tijd zijn voor de vergadering omdat mijn trein vertraging heeft
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suljo94 said:
google is going to add an option for non English language devices so that you can give a command in English and the speak your native a language
example
send message to x
ik zal niet op tijd zijn voor de vergadering omdat mijn trein vertraging heeft
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that's nice cause it would be a bit stupid to suddently start sending English texts to people i know xD so I think i'm going to go for a android wear device possible the moto 360 if it gets released in the next 2 weeks else i'll go for the lg one
I believe it is a little bit stupid to talk to your watch. It looks kind of ridiculous, i would never do it publicly.
apos1982 said:
I believe it is a little bit stupid to talk to your watch. It looks kind of ridiculous, i would never do it publicly.
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agreed !!!!
noahvt said:
that's nice cause it would be a bit stupid to suddently start sending English texts to people i know xD so I think i'm going to go for a android wear device possible the moto 360 if it gets released in the next 2 weeks else i'll go for the lg one
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I personnally went for sw because the apps don't need speech to work but because you asked I gave you information and not an opinion
Any word from Sony how they plan to maintain the SW2 when Wear is released? Will there be continued development for this platform?
I must say I have the sw2 since December and I'm very happy with it. It can do all you asked for and obviously shows the hour ?
Moreover the battery lasts 4 or 5 days depending on your use, it's water resistant, you can run with it using endomondo, runtastic and other apps like these...
I use it with a Samsung galaxy s4, and the results are really good! I wouldn't change it right now for an android wear one. Maybe next Android wear generation if they are as good as they seem to be and my sw2 is dead.
I would say, if you can get it for less than 120€ go for it
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@Tuborg68: i tried communicating with Sony about the SW2, through their forum, multiple tweets, but am not getting any replies
it's anyone's guess when the next update (if any) will be released
that's the advantage of google wear, skins aren't allowed, which means manufacturers can easily update their watch when google releases a new version
and it'll attract a lot more developers
apos1982 said:
I believe it is a little bit stupid to talk to your watch. It looks kind of ridiculous, i would never do it publicly.
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15 years ago, when Bluetooth headsets become more affordable, using one seems so strange that some friends of me start calling me the nickname Cyborg everytime we meet. Today with the popularization of the technology nothing is strange and even less stupid.
If someone like to have the latest technology couldn't care about what others might think or say, like in other areas of life.
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apos1982 said:
I believe it is a little bit stupid to talk to your watch. It looks kind of ridiculous, i would never do it publicly.
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noahvt said:
Hello,
I'm looking to buy a smartwatch and i'm choosing between a sony smartwatch 2 or a android wear device;
If i buy a android wear powered device i will only be able to use it for notifications cause the voice commands will probably not support my language (dutch)
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
is this smartwatch 2 good enough for reading facebook messages, skipping between music tracks, adjusting volume? (and maybe toggling wifi, nfc, etc off on my phone from the watch) and ofcourse checking the time (considering the fact that it only has a 180mhz cpu) ?
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
thanks,
noahvt
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I have a SW2 and have the same doubt when when Android Wear were introduced last week. But SW2 is more easy to work with notifications because you can chose the extension apps that you want to install to get notifications, you can also get notifications from message app or Hangouts app if you choose too, or you can also answer calls on your phone or BT because you have a Sony handset, i'm planning to by a Sony handset just to use this feature.
And when the Android Wear SW become diverse from different brands and with more languages i will think in bought one.
Can anyone reccomend a place/store to buy this smartwatch, I checked at bestbuy and it costs 200 dollars over there while in my country (Belgium) it's just 130 euros is there any shop in America where this watch has a similar price?
Get it used on ebay. I see them selling for $70-$80. One advantage of having Sony's Smartwatch is that Sony is a household name, so people will see this watch at Best buy and just get it as a gift for people, and the giftee ends up not being really interested in smartwatches, so he/she sells. Their loss our gain.
im going to cape cod tomorrow and i looked at bestbuy and it said it was available in lots of stores there but then i pressed on add to card and the website was like: nah just kidding we cant ship it anymore to that store. and that was for all the stores there ;/
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2018/10/29/sony-drops-xperia-theme-support-for-xperia-xz3/
Don't you guys feel Sony is slowly but gradually losing their identity?
zanshini said:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2018/10/29/sony-drops-xperia-theme-support-for-xperia-xz3/
Don't you guys feel Sony is slowly but gradually losing their identity?
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I agree. They have stopped development on both the Xperia Home and Xperia Weather apps with only maintenance updates and now themes are discontinued on new devices. Sony had a nice balance of stock and skinned android experience but now it's leaning towards more of a stock experience. I hope something is coming in the pipeline development wise that differentiates them from the competitors. I have been a Sony/Sony Ericsson user for twelve years and in that time we've lost many original Sony experiences.