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Hello Friends, I have a few general queries.
What is the best method or practice to charge a cellphone battery? Should a user allow the device to completely run out of charge/power such that the device shuts down or switches off? Or should the user make it a point to charge the device once the battery level is between or depleting from 20% - 10%?
Also, does intermittent charging reduce the life span of the battery? The reason I ask this is because a cousin of mine has a habit of charging his cellphone (Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro) every now and then. It does not seem to matter to him if the battery level is at 80% or 50%.
Personally, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note.
Thanking you in advance and awaiting your apt responses.
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YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, I have a few general queries.
What is the best method or practice to charge a cellphone battery? Should a user allow the device to completely run out of charge/power such that the device shuts down or switches off? Or should the user make it a point to charge the device once the battery level is between or depleting from 20% - 10%?
Also, does intermittent charging reduce the life span of the battery? The reason I ask this is because a cousin of mine has a habit of charging his cellphone (Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro) every now and then. It does not seem to matter to him if the battery level is at 80% or 50%.
Personally, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note.
Thanking you in advance and awaiting your apt responses.
EDIT
I apologise if this thread is in the wrong section. Perhaps it belongs to the Questions and Answers sub-category of General Discussion. I urge my Superiors here to move it to the appropriate category/forum they deem fit.
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My best experience when first getting a new phone is to do a full charge, then let the battery drain completely, and do another full charge with no intermittent taking the phone off of the charger, after a few times of doing this it should break the battery in.
Though some say this does nothing and is merely a myth - I like to think it's true as I have seen results.
I always do the charge, then full discharge, then full charge once on a new phone. From then on I don't pay attention.
I charge every night over night on my night stand. Then use phone throughout the day. If it is a particularly busy day I charge as needed whether that is the regular charger or cigarette lighter charger in the car.
Thank you icepally and 85gallon for your replies.
After I received my device, the very first time, I inserted the battery, powered it on and continued using it until the battery level was low (somewhere between 15% - 10%, although I cannot remember precisely ).
Should I have plugged the phone for charging immediately after inserting the battery or after powering it on?
Also, I did not follow a practice/order of complete 100% charge and complete 100% discharge.
Do any of you reckon what I have mentioned in the above 3 paragraphs will impact the battery life span of my device?
I apologise for my naive and paranoid queries. I am a noob!
Thank you once again for being patient with me.
You should charge any li-ion battery fully and then discharge completely without interruption as often as possible. Most ppl who complain the most fail to get this. This will give you longer charges by up to 25%
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Hello Friends, I have installed BatterBatteryStats 1.0.0.0 on my Samsung Galaxy Note.
How do I use this application to serve me better? Also, is the said version dated or it is enough to be used on my device?
After installing the application, I am clueless about its functionality.
Thank you all once again for being patient with my stupidity.
Wipe Battery Stats, is it necessary?
Hello all, I would like to know if it is recommended that a Wipe Battery Stats be performed every time one flashes a different custom firmware and or a custom kernel?
There are suggestive opinions stating that such a practice allows the kernel to 'settle in' (for a lack of a better adjective), thus making a difference in battery life and performance.
Also, an acquaintance from my neighbourhood pointed me to the following article, http://lifehacker.com/5786717/get-b...ted-android-phone-by-wiping-its-battery-stats, which aroused the above query. My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000.
I have not followed any such acclaimed practice till date, and since I am naive and daft, I felt my query will be best answered by the experts on this wonderful community. Thank you all for your patience.
You seriously need to read this:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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another easy question to ask.........first to do after buy a phone is to drain da battery first, do a hard drain and then charger a bit juz to make sure ur fone can be booted, boot ur fone n do a factory reset, drain it again, simply rebooting n shutting it down to drain it, after that, charger ur fone merely for 1 minute in off mode n boot again ur fone while charger still developing n make sure u close da sleep mode while charging until it fully charged. There u got ur fone fully regenerate da stat without using any software. then u can charger anytime,anywhere n anyplace as android hav excellent battery management.
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You seriously need to read this:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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post-mortem, thank you very much for the link to a technical reference. Upon reading it, I have learnt and thus become aware of three important aspects -
1] Never overcharge the battery.
2] Never discharge the battery completely or too low.
3] Power off the device and charge.
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But is it absolutely compulsory to follow point number 3, and charge the device after powering it down?
post-mortem, thank you very much for the link to a technical reference. Upon reading it, I have learnt and thus become aware of three important aspects -
1] Never overcharge the battery.
2] Never discharge the battery completely or too low.
3] Power off the device and charge.
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But is it absolutely compulsory to follow point number 3, and charge the device after powering it down?
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I would say this is only a real issue if the device has high drain while charging. Like if you charge while on a call, or while using navigation. If you only do such things occasionally, I'd bet that the device will reach terminal utility in some other way, before the battery does.
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For me, a new phone must be fully drained when used for the 1st time, and charge it for 5 hours.. It's always the common sayings for a lithium ion batteries.. and then after that you can charge the phone whether it's 20% 30%, etc.. then once a week fully drained the battery and charge..
Also. Overcharging will destroy battery integrity. Not like just charging overnight but if you just constantly always try to charge it and leave it charging when full for long periods of time. Its scientific.
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I would say this is only a real issue if the device has high drain while charging. Like if you charge while on a call, or while using navigation. If you only do such things occasionally, I'd bet that the device will reach terminal utility in some other way, before the battery does.
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Thank you post-mortem and apologies for the late response. The only activities I tend to perform while my device is charging is, either send text messages or chat via WhatsApp Messenger.
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Also. Overcharging will destroy battery integrity. Not like just charging overnight but if you just constantly always try to charge it and leave it charging when full for long periods of time. Its scientific.
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whodisname, thank you as well. I have always been cautious and have never kept my device charging overnight, and thanks to the informative guidelines provided in this thread, I will always remember never to overcharge the battery of my device.
Hello everyone.
When charging a device, either via AC mains using a travel adapter, or USB, is it a compulsory practice to use the stock original cable which doubles up as the data cable, to do so?
Just as there are after market premium batteries from the likes of Anker and Mugen, are there after market premium cables available as well? If there are, would a single after market premium cable be compatible across multiple, if not all devices?
The stock original cable of my Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 has started malfunctioning. I contacted Samsung India's customer service to enquire about the availability of the said accessory, and upon the customer service agent's suggestion, I got in touch with the local Samsung authorised service centre, where an agent informed me, the cable will have to be ordered and it would take between 15 days to a month, to arrive at the local service centre.
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Hello everyone.
When charging a device, either via AC mains using a travel adapter, or USB, is it a compulsory practice to use the stock original cable which doubles up as the data cable, to do so?
Just as there are after market premium batteries from the likes of Anker and Mugen, are there after market premium cables available as well? If there are, would a single after market premium cable be compatible across multiple, if not all devices?
The stock original cable of my Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 has started malfunctioning. I contacted Samsung India's customer service to enquire about the availability of the said accessory, and upon the customer service agent's suggestion, I got in touch with the local Samsung authorised service centre, where an agent informed me, the cable will have to be ordered and it would take between 15 days to a month, to arrive at the local service centre.
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1. yes
2. not that im aware of, but that doesn't mean there is not. most of them are junk though.
3. you could try ebay. sometimes people sell extra parts cheap, but i dont know how you would tell if it is authentic other than contacting the seller. many of the supposed oem stuff is just aftermarket china junk.
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Hello everyone.
When charging a device, either via AC mains using a travel adapter, or USB, is it a compulsory practice to use the stock original cable which doubles up as the data cable, to do so?
Just as there are after market premium batteries from the likes of Anker and Mugen, are there after market premium cables available as well? If there are, would a single after market premium cable be compatible across multiple, if not all devices?
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It really doesn't matter, as long as it's from a good brand. You're not going to damage anything if you use an LG cable on a Samsung phone. You're not going to damage anything if you use some crappy no-name cable, but you should stick with reputable names just for the assurance of longevity and steady connection (especially if you need it to connect to a computer). If you want to find an OEM Samsung cable, just find the cheapest/quickest to ship, and it'll work just fine.
The actual charger though, can be a different matter. ALWAYS go with a reputable charger, preferably the one that came with the device. But even the latter isn't all that important. Mainly you should worry about the charger malfunctioning and cooking your phone. But if you go with something name brand, it's extremely unlikely that you'll damage your battery.
The stock original cable of my Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 has started malfunctioning. I contacted Samsung India's customer service to enquire about the availability of the said accessory, and upon the customer service agent's suggestion, I got in touch with the local Samsung authorised service centre, where an agent informed me, the cable will have to be ordered and it would take between 15 days to a month, to arrive at the local service centre.
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The long shipping time is because you're requesting a specific part with a specific number. Just find yourself the quickest/cheapest Samsung, LG, Sony, Motorola, HTC, or other name brand cable, and you'll be just fine with it.
contrary to what planterz posted, on some phones, newer ones more predominantly, some will not charge properly or as quickly as possible if you don't use the proper factory cable. case and point is the lg g2 i have. fast charging doesn't work with crappy aftermarket or non lg cables.
@Planterz and @bweN diorD, thank you very much for your replies.
I have been charging my device alternately, sometimes using the stock cable of a BlackBerry Bold 9700, but mostly the stock cable of a Sony Xperia E (C1504).
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The Samsung OEM cable is available for purchase online at Mobile Fun India, http://in.mobilefun.com/46026-samsung-micro-usb-sync-charge-cable-black.htm. But, the shipping charge amounts to slightly above half the price of the OEM cable.
I have also looked at the Belkin MIXIT Micro-USB to USB ChargeSync Cable (F2CU012bt04), http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU012-Belkin/p/P-F2CU012/, which I am very inclined to purchase.
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Hello everyone.
How can the integrity of a Lithium Ion cellphone battery be tested? What is the apt 'hardware' method to do so? Also, would using an app (software interface) yield a convincingly accurate result?
The stock OEM battery of my device (Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000) has begun draining rapidly, and thus, I am keen on assessing its capacity related aspects and diagnosing its charge storing/retaining ability.
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I await your valuable guidance.
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I think the question may be silly but I want to know the procedure for this. can I run the phone directly by connecting only charger and removing the battery...as I keep for downloads of movie over 3g it drains battery damn fast and if its kept charged the battery looses its power. so plz help me out.
I have been looking for this also, what I feel we have to do is like power the device from the battery port, I not sure how we would do this but a multi charger with the right voltage and amps might do it, I am sure there are repair centres that do this as they would not keep using battery's no scrap that I been to a few and they don't and when you send them your phone they ask your NOT to send the battery with the device, so there really must be away to power the device without the main battery but the phone would think the power source is from a battery.
If anyone as a idea how please drop a post.
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I think the question may be silly but I want to know the procedure for this. can I run the phone directly by connecting only charger and removing the battery...as I keep for downloads of movie over 3g it drains battery damn fast and if its kept charged the battery looses its power. so plz help me out.
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besides physical limits power output from transformer/ "charger" is too high and will destroy the phone
"charger" because battery is really charged by the charging-circuits placed on phone mobo
It seems many people use old smartphones for their projects. I wonder how they make it?
I want to ask if it is possible to make a fake battery?
ruscan.calin said:
besides physical limits power output from transformer/ "charger" is too high and will destroy the phone
"charger" because battery is really charged by the charging-circuits placed on phone mobo
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Please answer if anybody has knowledge about this
Yes
You should be able to remove your battery if you are plugfged into the mains charger and it shouldnt affect you phone peformance i dd this with my phone and i checked the performance with the SETCPU app and it was running brillantly i just set the app to run on full peformance when plugged into the mains and it was brillant.
Shrihari007 said:
I think the question may be silly but I want to know the procedure for this. can I run the phone directly by connecting only charger and removing the battery...as I keep for downloads of movie over 3g it drains battery damn fast and if its kept charged the battery looses its power. so plz help me out.
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Well, it's all about how the phone was build... My HTC Touch Cruise 09 are not working without the battery. I try to start the phone with battery, connect the charger and than remove it. The phone goes off. By mistake, I powered on an LG T300 without the battery, while the phone was connected with an USB cable to my computer. The phone started and worked fine.
So, take your own conclusion...
very helpful
this forum thread was helpful! thanks!
But this works with only some models not every model...is there any specific hardware to do so?
That's hardware related... If it was software related than developers would have done far back...
Any electronics guy/girl here?
Bump... thread into acitivity again... no answer yet. Like to know it as well.
Developers we have enough. But is there a person who has knowledge about electronics, and have an idea how to use , for example,
use a USB 5V without the battery. How to connect wires, what electronics components are needed?
The following website has a way to do it, but it's 12V and one of the components becomes very hot. I don't like that.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-use-phone-without-battery/
Help? Running a smartphone on USB power only would be awesome as a bettery is drained fast if you game, surf on the internet, etc.
My S6312 cannot operate without the battery, somehow the 3 connections have to be connected. But how?
Are the connections the same for example the S7275R?
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Bump... thread into acitivity again... no answer yet. Like to know it as well.
Developers we have enough. But is there a person who has knowledge about electronics, and have an idea how to use , for example,
use a USB 5V without the battery. How to connect wires, what electronics components are needed?
The following website has a way to do it, but it's 12V and one of the components becomes very hot. I don't like that.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-use-phone-without-battery/
Help? Running a smartphone on USB power only would be awesome as a bettery is drained fast if you game, surf on the internet, etc.
My S6312 cannot operate without the battery, somehow the 3 connections have to be connected. But how?
Are the connections the same for example the S7275R?
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I am also looking for similar stuff to power my Sony Ericsson W8 Phone without batteries. Kindly let me know know if you have found something.
Huawei U8825D Could Be Run without battery by Connecting with a Charger
To my astonishment, with battery removed, Huawei U8825D could be turned on and operated normally with the charger plugged in. I came across this thread as I was wondering if there are tweaks that could be applied to other phone models to enable this function.
I' not sure if this will help but no harm in posting it so may some one can find the best mod I used a similar trick my symbain and gess it will work fine with any other phone but am not responsible for any side effects or any thing like that...
Recwirment are a battery with the same voltage of your phone ana two wires. Attach the (+) born of battery with (+) born phone same thing for (-) and put the charger and play with your phone as much as possible tested on n8 symbain but not android so be careful about it
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I wonder if phones can not work with no battery, how it can be called an accesory. Because accesory is "1. clothing that is worn or carried, but not part of your main clothing, 2. a supplementary component that improves capability". Samsung says battery is accesory therefore changing battery four times can not provide repayment or changing phone procedure. Have they a right like this
It should work by taking the protection circuitry from an old battery and take a power bank that uses a lithium cell and connect the + & - of the power bank to the + & - of the battery circuitry.
This way it should trick the phone into thinking it has a fully charged battery installed, plus giving the extra overcurrent protection from both boards.
I know its kinda late, but I am searching for a topic and this is as close as I am getting to it. So here is my question. I have an LGV10 from Verizon. I am rooted but have no custom recovery. (you can look up those threads about all of that) I was curious about seeing if I could sort of hot swap the batteries by plugging it in and changing them. The phone appears to run fine off the charger alone, but a message comes up on the screen saying battery removed. Shutting down. Is there a way to get around that?
need powersupply with right voltage and ampere
afaik you need a powersupply to do that.
check the battery voltage and ampere.
adjust the power supply to the same volt and ampere.
connect + and - pin, power up the power supply and turn on your phones.
power supply tools for mobilephones arent cheap.
alernatively,
if you have a technician friend, perhaps you can ask him to make a non dynamic power supply nor electric adapter with certain voltage and ampere
For all those still curious on how to run a phone with no battery
Add watch?v=f0IuBld2lzA[/url] at the end of youtube. I can't post links yet. Basically you cut off the end of your USB cable and connect it directly to the leads on the phone that battery normally connects to. Kind of like a universal charger being used direclty on the phone.
I got an idea
Shrihari007 said:
I think the question may be silly but I want to know the procedure for this. can I run the phone directly by connecting only charger and removing the battery...as I keep for downloads of movie over 3g it drains battery damn fast and if its kept charged the battery looses its power. so plz help me out.
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Well battery have some internal registance .
Maybe if you connect a small register between tow nodes of power output of phone, you can possibly emulate presence of battery.
But if it doesn't work then you will facing some circuit failure. All the best . Let us know your result
Short but powerful,
Without all the blablabla straight to the point. I got ?fooled? by a phone company 's expert(?) who told me this was not going to do any damage to my phone, and refused me to give me my money back after i found out that the battery was not good(the same as OEM z710e voltage ratings) when i came home.
I have a z710e, it came out of the factory in 2011. Original battery specifications:
m/n BG58100 p/n 35H00150-02M (3.7VDC 5.62Whr 1520mah)
The battery triple checked by "Expert" and sold by him is a:
m/n BI39100 p/n 35H00170-01M (3.8VDC 6.08Whr 1600mah)
My phone model: z710e (PG58130) original battery p/n: 35H00150-02M from 2011.
Next time I'll check this stuff myself and don't let those people do it for me. They either don't have any good batteries for this model and just sell the one that actually over volts your phone. Or other batteries and so had in his mind to sell me this and don't care about it, like "oh well who the heck cares, this person will never find out and will return to me when his phones is death". Well I'm pretty sure that this will not make my phone last any longer than a year / half a year or less! And i still need it for a year or longer if possible.
Feel free to reply, but only if you know that what you are telling is 100% correct. Please avoid non-valid information or answers, thanks :good:
I am not a pro either but this just doesn't seem to be correct. Feel free to correct me, if i made any mistakes.
https://www.google.co.uk/?#q=35H00170-01M+compatibility
If you don't understand my actual question, then I'm deeply sorry. Often my stories are not so easy to understand duo to my bad English.
The question in a nutshell is simply : Will this higher end battery do damage to the phone and is my story right, i mean is this battery not compatible with my model because it can do damage duo to over volting the ma inboard/soc (because of higher battery output ratings?)
NiTrOwow said:
Short but powerful,
Without all the blablabla straight to the point. I got ?scammed? by a phone company 's expert(?) who told me this was not going to do any damage to my phone, and refused me to give me my money back after i found out that the battery was not good(the same as OEM z710e voltage ratings) when i came home.
I have a z710e, it came out of the factory in 2011. Original battery specifications:
m/n BG58100 p/n 35H00150-02M (3.7VDC 5.62Whr 1520mah)
The battery triple checked by "Expert" and sold by him is a:
m/n BI39100 p/n 35H00170-01M (3.8VDC 6.08Whr 1600mah)
My phone model: z710e (PG58130) original battery p/n: 35H00150-02M from 2011.
Next time I'll check this **** myself and don't let those people do it for me. They either don't have any good batteries for this model and just sell the one that actually over volts your phone. Or other batteries and so had in his mind to sell me this and don't care about it, like "oh well who the **** cares, this person will never find out and will return to me when his phones is death". Well I'm pretty sure that this will not make my phone last any longer than a year / half a year or less! And i still need it for a year or longer if possible.
Feel free to reply, but only if you know that what you are telling is 100% correct. Please avoid non-valid information or answers, thanks :good:
I am not a pro either but this just doesn't seem to be correct. Feel free to correct me, if i made any mistakes.
https://www.google.co.uk/?#q=35H00170-01M+compatibility
If you don't understand my actual question, then I'm deeply sorry. Often my stories are not so easy to understand duo to my bad English.
The question in a nutshell is simply : Will this higher end battery do damage to the phone and is my story right, i mean is this battery not compatible with my model because it can do damage duo to over volting the ma inboard/soc (because of higher battery output ratings?)
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First of all you should search a little bit more to see that the same battery (35H00170-01M) is offered by numerous companies as a replacement battery for various phone models (Titan, Vivid, z710e...) just like the battery from your phone (35H00150-02M) is offered for the same models.
Then, you can find the same battery (35H00170-01M) offered with different voltages, both 3.7V and 3.8V, and the difference of 0.1V will not harm your phone, cause, you can see it yourself, voltage rating for the original phone charger is 5V and it doesn't harm your phone.
And the last, the other data you got for the battery (Whr and mah) mean only that you have battery that should last longer than the original one you have.
I hope I helped...
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First of all you should search a little bit more to see that the same battery (35H00170-01M) is offered by numerous companies as a replacement battery for various phone models (Titan, Vivid, z710e...) just like the battery from your phone (35H00150-02M) is offered for the same models.
Then, you can find the same battery (35H00170-01M) offered with different voltages, both 3.7V and 3.8V, and the difference of 0.1V will not harm your phone, cause, you can see it yourself, voltage rating for the original phone charger is 5V and it doesn't harm your phone.
And the last, the other data you got for the battery (Whr and mah) mean only that you have battery that should last longer than the original one you have.
I hope I helped...
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It indeed is, but i have really bad experience with replacement batteries. And those small 'voltage increases'. They end up to die quicker a lot quicker in my personal experience. And i think it is also the reason why, many sellers don't include my model in the compatibility list.The 3.8VDC 6.08whr version is meant for the XL and titan version witch is actually indeed the same but +300mhz overclocked.
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It indeed is, but i have really bad experience with replacement batteries. And those small 'voltage increases'. They end up to die quicker a lot quicker in my personal experience. And i think it is also the reason why, many sellers don't include my model in the compatibility list.The 3.8VDC 6.08whr version is meant for the XL and titan version witch is actually indeed the same but +300mhz overclocked.
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To be honest I have some cheap s**t called Hinorx Extended Battery that's 1200mah (don't know what's extended there but that's what I got when I ordered regular replacement battery for Sensation) and it works really well, can go up to 25-30h with 2h of screen, lots of wifi (ARHD 7.3 with 1,5MHz o/c).
Don't worry about 0.1V, it means nothing. And for life of battery I hope you got warranty...
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To be honest I have some cheap s**t called Hinorx Extended Battery that's 1200mah (don't know what's extended there but that's what I got when I ordered regular replacement battery for Sensation) and it works really well, can go up to 25-30h with 2h of screen, lots of wifi (ARHD 7.3 with 1,5MHz o/c).
Don't worry about 0.1V, it means nothing. And for life of battery I hope you got warranty...
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It don't has warranty. But it's oke. It is a OEM battery they said. Btw it works fine, only had to use another charger with a output of 1.5a. It would not charge otherwise. But well, lets see how long it keeps working.
Haha it seems to not work charging for 5 hours now and still 0% cannot go in cwm recovery and when it starts it will reboot and orange/green led will blink again. I tried to reboot it several times, tried to clean/bend the pins and all the other tips from XDA forum seasrch results and nothing seems to work.. Great =(
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Haha it seems to not work charging for 5 hours now and still 0% cannot go in cwm recovery and when it starts it will reboot and orange/green led will blink again. I tried to reboot it several times, tried to clean/bend the pins and all the other tips from XDA forum seasrch results and nothing seems to work.. Great =(
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Did you try defferent chargers, stock one should (1A) be fine.
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Did you try defferent chargers, stock one should (1A) be fine.
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Yes i did but it got extremly hot so i switched back to the stock charger. And it actually should be fine? +0.1 volt doesn't matter?
The battery does not hold charge at all. It turns on battery level is 0% and will reboot and do orange/green led indication for as long as you keep it in the charger. When you get it out of the charger and turn it on it will go off as soon as android is loaded up intro the pincode screen. Guy at the store told me the led indication meant that the bettery is at an extremly low level of power and that it just needs to charge some more.
Well i have been charging it for like +5 hours now for sure. Using the OEM charger rated at 5VDC 1A. It is not the cable or faulty charger. If i test the output or on my tablet it works just fine. And with the old battery i'm able to charge it, but the old battery is dead, it does not hold load properly anymore. It drops a lot of times from 80% to 1% in like maybe 30 minutes of usage.
Also when using the GI39100 i cannot get intro adb or recovery..
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Yes i did but it got extremly hot so i switched back to the stock charger. And it actually should be fine? +0.1 volt doesn't matter?
The battery does not hold charge at all. It turns on battery level is 0% and will reboot and do orange/green led indication for as long as you keep it in the charger. When you get it out of the charger and turn it on it will go off as soon as android is loaded up intro the pincode screen. Guy at the store told me the led indication meant that the bettery is at an extremly low level of power and that it just needs to charge some more.
Well i have been charging it for like +5 hours now for sure. Using the OEM charger rated at 5VDC 1A. It is not the cable or faulty charger. If i test the output or on my tablet it works just fine. And with the old battery i'm able to charge it, but the old battery is dead, it does not hold load properly anymore. It drops a lot of times from 80% to 1% in like maybe 30 minutes of usage.
Also when using the GI39100 i cannot get intro adb or recovery..
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Faulty battery. It's not about volts, it's about bad battery.
You should require replacement or reimbursement.
nlooooo said:
Faulty battery. It's not about volts, it's about bad battery.
You should require replacement or reimbursement.
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It is the second brand new battery the guy in the store put intro it.
Both did the same, it just doens't work.
1. Does not turn on (sometimes when lucky)
2. Holds no charge
I did
1. Wipe battery stats (in the end, like 5 minutes ago from writting. It took me half an hour to get the phone booting while charging)
2. The phone started only twice, now it does nothing anymore (with this new bat).
Also the battery info was all wrong.
When i checked the 1st time when i got it on i went to settings > about the phone > status > batterystatus it did show me(i left it nearly 3 hours like this and still 0%):
- Batterystatus: Unknown <----------------- Before battery stat wipe, after wipe still the same, no power on.
- Battery level: 0% <----------------- Before battery stat wipe, after wipe still the same, no power on.
While it should look like this!
- Battery is being discharged (when not charging)
- Battery level: 93% (old poor battery meanwhile after so much testing already full again)
When i put the old battery in place it works without problems. When i put the new one in it doesn't + battery stats are not even readed by android itself and recovery menu stated a warning. "Warning phone is under-volted" or some message like that. And the LED indicator flash in an unusual way (orange/green) this probably is an error code. Well, complete nonsense because i use the same charger. And the XL version has the same 1A charger, so this makes no sense. The battery is just not compatible.
The battery has been charging for almost 13 hours now. And still 0% + orange/green led flashes.
I have no tools here i had to imprevise with crap, gluetape and a doorbell to get a cracky 5 dollar multimeter working, LoL.
here is the bat output;
a 0.08 v 20 3.52v hv 750 0.07 hv 200 06.8 with other words it should be fine to run and maybe get 50% battery level. But it is still z3r0~ when i put it in my phone.
Topic prefix can be set to [ANSWERED]. The m/n BI39100 p/n 35H00170-01M battery works just fine in the z710e. Confirmed to work, even with 0.1v increase (does not produce more heat or instability, like some cheap fake batteries do without protection IC xD)
I went back to the store they gave me another battery and it instantly worked. So i had two faulty batteries. Lucky me again haha....
Probably or the store where i got it from does not test bats and throws them intro one big box or just very very unlucky.
The battery stats now work, no warning in recovery menu and no orange/green flashing in the led indication.
So if somebody has the same issue as me, your battery is 100% sure faulty. And you should toss it back to the re-seller for warranty or if you purchased the parts loose RMA it.
Get or an good alternative non-oem brand like anker. That is sure to be safe and good of quality. And never use fake chargers from like cheap Chinese tabs or phones. Often they have terrible output and this can badly damage your battery/phone because the output might not be stable enough and drops and increases a lot of times, either using a 2A charger does not make any sense at all. It will go just as fast as a 1A charger because the limit is 1A through(in most phones some can have other ratings). Only thing that can damage your phone/battery is if you go over the 5VDC. More volts = more heat = less lifespan. Amps are taken by the device and volts are given.
Confused
The new battery i have now is a BI39100 35H00186-00M. The 35H00170-01M does not seem to work in a PG58130 z710e or i had two faulty batteries... ?
Hello everyone.Ive been thinking about the existence of an app that can track how much energy is given from the charger or the power bank and how much energy is used during this period.For example I want to be sure that my power bank really is 5000 mah but i cant be sure cause during charging the phone uses energy for whatever it uses it.I know that i can turn off the phone but this reallu isnt that convenient.
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discoverymen1999 said:
Hello everyone.Ive been thinking about the existence of an app that can track how much energy is given from the charger or the power bank and how much energy is used during this period.For example I want to be sure that my power bank really is 5000 mah but i cant be sure cause during charging the phone uses energy for whatever it uses it.I know that i can turn off the phone but this reallu isnt that convenient.
Thanks
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There is an app called Ampere, it shows you how fast the battery is draining/charging, voltage, temperature and a bumch more stuff. However it does not show how much battery is left in a power bank. To make sure it is full read the manual to know how long to charge it until it's full or look for a light that shows it's full.
The problem is the middle pin on the battery connector (on the motherboard) which reads the battery temp is damaged, so only slow charging for me. the battery connector/pin is too small to resolder without the proper tools and no one is selling a 32GB Nexus 5 board currently. The few I saw last week were like $100 :crying: so can't fix for now.
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Hey XDA'ers,
Not sure what's wrong with my N5, the phone is charging extremely slow. the icon on the notification area shows the phone as charging. In the battery settings it says the phone is not charging. Also using apps like ampere tell me....
battery health: cold
temperature: -30C
Voltage: 3.9 - 3.95 range [normal voltage is 3.8 so seems fine]
the behavior is consistent across all ROM's, stock, etc. . and the phone only charges in bootloader mode (still slow at that) any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks
What value of current ampere shows you??
Did you try by changing charger or data cable??
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What value of current ampere shows you??
Did you try by changing charger or data cable??
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value of current? I don't see that as a option. and many charger and cables they all work on other phones but the issue remains on mine.
At low battery voltage should be at about 3.6V and current drawn should be around 1150 mA. As voltage increases i.e. full charge voltage should be around 4.5 V and current drawn at 90% of battery should be around 900mA.
So just check values by app Ampere.
drago10029 said:
Hey XDA'ers,
Not sure what's wrong with my N5, the phone is charging extremely slow. the icon on the notification area shows the phone as charging. In the battery settings it says the phone is not charging. Also using apps like ampere tell me....
battery health: cold
temperature: -30C
Voltage: 3.9 - 3.95 range [normal voltage is 3.8 so seems fine]
the behavior is consistent across all ROM's, stock, etc. . and the phone only charges in bootloader mode (still slow at that) any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks
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I heard somewhere that this is problem in battery connector or thermal sensor. There was fix for this too. I can tell you if i find it again
V4LT5U said:
I heard somewhere that this is problem in battery connector or thermal sensor. There was fix for this too. I can tell you if i find it again
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You are correct and it could be either of the 2 actually. In my case I noticed the middle battery connector on my nexus 5 motherboard is bad so that explains why I can't get it to charge properly.
The problem now is I haven't been able to find a replacement 32GB board at all, not even ebay........ so I'm gonna make another thread to ask for some help with that.
drago10029 said:
You are correct and it could be either of the 2 actually. In my case I noticed the middle battery connector on my nexus 5 motherboard is bad so that explains why I can't get it to charge properly.
The problem now is I haven't been able to find a replacement 32GB board at all, not even ebay........ so I'm gonna make another thread to ask for some help with that.
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Damn. Did you damage it like if you were replacing battery? Guess i have to remember to be careful if i replace mine. Btw found the thread, may not help you if the pin is like not even attached anymore but anyways here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/battery-issue-charge-cold-t3100267
Edit: And here is iFixit mother/logicboard, don't if you get extra customs/fees if you don't live in USA. Not even sure do they send them from USA, or do they have like EU stock or something. No idea. And not sure if it even is worth the price. link: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Google-Nexus-5-Motherboard/IF293-004-1
Edit 2: Aand they are out of stock.
Edit 3: You could try also to find slightly damaged n5 with working mobo but again need to think is it worth is and such. Could try also to sell the parts you didn't use from it.
V4LT5U said:
Damn. Did you damage it like if you were replacing battery? Guess i have to remember to be careful if i replace mine. Btw found the thread, may not help you if the pin is like not even attached anymore but anyways here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/battery-issue-charge-cold-t3100267
Edit: And here is iFixit mother/logicboard, don't if you get extra customs/fees if you don't live in USA. Not even sure do they send them from USA, or do they have like EU stock or something. No idea. And not sure if it even is worth the price. link: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Google-Nexus-5-Motherboard/IF293-004-1
Edit 2: Aand they are out of stock.
Edit 3: You could try also to find slightly damaged n5 with working mobo but again need to think is it worth is and such. Could try also to sell the parts you didn't use from it.
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thanks for the advice, I removed the connector like once but gently. Our battery connector (N5) is super cheap. and reconnecting is possible with good soldering equipment, which would be better since that is the only issue. and I don't have money for anything now so I can try solder or buy another board.
or sell it for parts which might be the case for me.