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Rooting with the x8 processor

Even if devs can unlock the bootloader and root this phone, how much can devs do considering how the x8 processor works? Would cm10.2 work well considering that Motorola has specific processors doing specific tasks?
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The basic 2 processors and GPU processors would probably be easy enough. The other two might be a challenge
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Does anyone have date when root will be available for the new maxx?

ilstec2 said:
Does anyone have date when root will be available for the new maxx?
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No ETAs ever.
I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, so just just wait patiently.
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Why X8 doesn't matter...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...x8-chip-gives-us-a-lesson-in-marketing-speak/
"At any rate, the Motorola X8 is more or less a Qualcomm Snapdragon."

alee said:
Why X8 doesn't matter...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...x8-chip-gives-us-a-lesson-in-marketing-speak/
"At any rate, the Motorola X8 is more or less a Qualcomm Snapdragon."
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It may not matter but custom roms still need to make use of the contextual computing core and the voice processing core. Which I believe is what the OP is talking about if you took a second to read it.

AWD FTW said:
It may not matter but custom roms still need to make use of the contextual computing core and the voice processing core. Which I believe is what the OP is talking about if you took a second to read it.
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I read it. My response addresses the fact that people, including the OP, think that the X8 is wildly different than anything the Android community has ever seen. It's Qualcomm + 2 cores + firmware customizations.
The OP is asking people to speculate whether CM10.2 or any ROM will work fine... and it will more than likely work fine once the devs get access to it -- just without the Motorola touchless controls. Most ROMs kill vendor specific customizations. I expect any new ROM out there that isn't based on a Motorola build will kill off the use of contextual processors. But it certainly doesn't stop the pace of ROMs being released. Example: CM10.2 doesn't do eye tracking on the SGS4, and never will.
So yes, I did read what the OP wrote. I understand what the OP is asking. And I responded to it.

But isn't eye tracking just a software where as the extra cores on the phone hardware issues? The question I am wondering would you be able to control the snapdragon processor without controlling the other 2 cores. Because the way moto spoke about it was as if they were all connected working simultaneously.
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craigbailey1986 said:
But isn't eye tracking just a software where as the extra cores on the phone hardware issues? The question I am wondering would you be able to control the snapdragon processor without controlling the other 2 cores. Because the way moto spoke about it was as if they were all connected working simultaneously.
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Depends on how the extra cores are packaged.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422513,00.asp
"Separating the custom logic from the CPU will allow Motorola to build X8s based on other CPUs, Arshad said.
"We can with with any Qualcomm processor. We can work with anybody's CPU. That's the beauty of it; all of our technology and experiences are decoupled from the legacy CPU processor," he said."
That to me says out the gate, things that are not bound to the contextual processor continue to exist as if there was none -- e.g. it runs just like any Qualcomm Snapdragon.
Where we see clues of customization where no doubt kernel work needs to be done is this:
"We've done additional optimizations on top of that such as optimizing the entire Linux user space to move it to an ARM instruction set, cache optimization, Dalvik just-in-time optimization, and we've changed the file system," Arshad said. "It's full hardware-software integration to deliver best-in-class performance."
So for it to perform as stock, it would seem that X8 optimizations must be done. But I read this as it is not required to get a custom ROM working -- it just won't have the battery life and speed of its optimized peer. But that's also pretty par for most ROMs out the gate -- lot of tweaking, tuning, etc. that has to happen before you start getting better than stock.

ilstec2 said:
Does anyone have date when root will be available for the new maxx?
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member for 6 years and 1 post to ask for a root eta... i'm so confused.

joshpersaud said:
member for 6 years and 1 post to ask for a root eta... i'm so confused.
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I have seen root on phones before they hit the market, Just thought I would ask. Don't have time to read much, just need root for tethering before I purchase the new MAXX.

ilstec2 said:
I have seen root on phones before they hit the market, Just thought I would ask. Don't have time to read much, just need root for tethering before I purchase the new MAXX.
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Are you on a grandfathered unlimited plan? I thought all of the "new" VZW plans include tethering for free? No root is the only stumbling block for me.

KWKSLVR said:
Are you on a grandfathered unlimited plan? I thought all of the "new" VZW plans include tethering for free? No root is the only stumbling block for me.
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Yes, I still have the old alltel unlimited plan.

KWKSLVR said:
Are you on a grandfathered unlimited plan? I thought all of the "new" VZW plans include tethering for free? No root is the only stumbling block for me.
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The 6bg maxx plan does not have tethering, but do not be worried. If we can gain access to root we should be fine with tether.

ilstec2 said:
Does anyone have date when root will be available for the new maxx?
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I'm not sure a worst question has ever been asked on any forum, but... there are no eta's. In fact as far as I know, there is no one working on root right now.

jimmydafish said:
I'm not sure a worst question has ever been asked on any forum, but... there are no eta's. In fact as far as I know, there is no one working on root right now.
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There was also "no one" working on unlocking moto bout loaders when Dan popped the news he got it. I'm sure some one some where is, especially now that the X is out on Verizon too.
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I am not holding my breath for root but I would imagine we will get it. why? lets look at it this way these guys do what they do for free some get donations but that is like putting out a tip jar never know what you will get. They have this in their blood I ma guessing someone is looking at the maxx/moto x and the X8 processor and saying I'm going to crack this *****. It's like a game to them they have to love what they do they do it for free.

Casen said:
There was also "no one" working on unlocking moto bout loaders when Dan popped the news he got it. I'm sure some one some where is, especially now that the X is out on Verizon too.
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Many people worked on the OMAP droids to no avail, Dan did great work and I'm not saying it's not possible or that there isn't someone with the ability to do it, but it takes ability and desire to do it. What I see lacking right now is a lack of desire.
So, unless one of the few people with the ability has the desire you will all wish you had bought an unlocked device.
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bigv5150 said:
I am not holding my breath for root but I would imagine we will get it. why? lets look at it this way these guys do what they do for free some get donations but that is like putting out a tip jar never know what you will get. They have this in their blood I ma guessing someone is looking at the maxx/moto x and the X8 processor and saying I'm going to crack this *****. It's like a game to them they have to love what they do they do it for free.
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For many it's what they do for a living (Security), and many may have cracked their own device and not be sharing what they have done. So I think from information not in the public domain, that there is a lack of desire to do this. maybe someone new will rise up and become the batman for this issue.

jimmydafish said:
Many people worked on the OMAP droids to no avail, Dan did great work and I'm not saying it's not possible or that there isn't someone with the ability to do it, but it takes ability and desire to do it. What I see lacking right now is a lack of desire.
So, unless one of the few people with the ability has the desire you will all wish you had bought an unlocked device.
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For many it's what they do for a living (Security), and many may have cracked their own device and not be sharing what they have done. So I think from information not in the public domain, that there is a lack of desire to do this. maybe someone new will rise up and become the batman for this issue.
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W Batman !
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[Q] Root help for Proscan PLT7223G - CPU: RK2928 - GPU: Mali-400 MP

I have a 7" Proscan PLT7223G, CPU: Rockchip RK2928 1.008Ghz, GPU: Mali-400 MP dual core by ARM running Android jellybean 4.1 with Google Play in it.
(Not letting me post a url, but if you google "PLT7223G manual" you'll get a page where there's a firmware and pdf manual ready to download.)
This is a cheap device (the one I could afford till I buy a better one) that I bought from walmart and I would love to root this device but so far have found no help anywhere on the internet. I know an expensive device has many users and more chances of being rooted, but is it possible to root this fairly obscure one?
I am fairly comfortable with using Android SDK and JDK or any one-click installer.
Can any one help and/or point me to the right direction? It's overwhelmingly info-rich and confusing for an android newbie like me around here :S
I would be super super grateful if anyone can help me root this one.
Thanks guys.

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4eyedgal said:
I have a 7" Proscan PLT7223G, CPU: Rockchip RK2928 1.008Ghz, GPU: Mali-400 MP dual core by ARM running Android jellybean 4.1 with Google Play in it.
(Not letting me post a url, but if you google "PLT7223G manual" you'll get a page where there's a firmware and pdf manual ready to download.)
This is a cheap device (the one I could afford till I buy a better one) that I bought from walmart and I would love to root this device but so far have found no help anywhere on the internet. I know an expensive device has many users and more chances of being rooted, but is it possible to root this fairly obscure one?
I am fairly comfortable with using Android SDK and JDK or any one-click installer.
Can any one help and/or point me to the right direction? It's overwhelmingly info-rich and confusing for an android newbie like me around here :S
I would be super super grateful if anyone can help me root this one.
Thanks guys.
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Try installing SRT Appscanner from play store, once installed run that app and please tell me if either of the bugs say vulnerable please.

Klown80 said:
Try installing SRT Appscanner from play store, once installed run that app and please tell me if either of the bugs say vulnerable please.
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I installed SRT Appscanner and ran it. All apps OK, it said.

I got my next book trendy 8 and it have no official root methods too but I rooted it with cidya impactor u can try it but u have to to install the USB drivers first
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U have to activate USB debugging mode. And SMERSH for cidya impactor and download widows version
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4eyedgal said:
I installed SRT Appscanner and ran it. All apps OK, it said.
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Go here then:
http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/
If you need help installing adb driver try www.snappea.com. Just install on Pc, then when program prompts you connect phone to PC with USB Debugging enabled and it will take care adb driver for you.

I purchased the same tablet PLT-7223G-4K from Woot two weeks ago.
I can confirm that Cydia Impactor will successfully drop SU into /system/xbin. From there, I was able to get a # root prompt in ADB shell and do whatever I pleased. (Thanks to the persons above me for pointing that out, I was getting a little frustrated with this thing.)
I can also say that the generic Google USB Driver will work for connecting to this tablet. I am running Windows 7 SP1 x64 and had just updated the Android SDK prior to trying various methods to root the tablet.
If you need any more specific information, I would be happy to help, since I have the exact same tablet and purchased it for the express purpose of poking it with sticks.

Success!
@Klown80 and @jfmajo Thank you very much! I've successfully rooted the device with cydiaimpactor without a single hitch. Got SU through adb shell and all! . Took less than 5 minutes!
Am loving this tablet now! It's actually quite fast and smooth now that I've been using it much.
Next stop: how to remove bloatware and make my inexpensive device even faster and show it off to my friends who got expensive ones eh!! Any suggested readings? Please do share!
Thanks so much again. You guys rock!

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4eyedgal said:
@Klown80 and @jfmajo Thank you very much! I've successfully rooted the device with cydiaimpactor without a single hitch. Got SU through adb shell and all! . Took less than 5 minutes!
Am loving this tablet now! It's actually quite fast and smooth now that I've been using it much.
Next stop: how to remove bloatware and make my inexpensive device even faster and show it off to my friends who got expensive ones eh!! Any suggested readings? Please do share!
Thanks so much again. You guys rock!
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How can you root this device
please help me
How did you use?
Say the name of the program

Thanks....followed instructions from post # 6.....rooted in 5 minutes. These tablets showed up at work too cheap to turn down.....gives me something to play with until the VZW Note 3 Developers Editions get back in stock at Samsung !
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+1 confirm for this method of root.
I've got the PLT7223G-K8G, It also runs on rk2928 This version has a 8gb flash and suppose to be clocked at 1.2ghz (more on that in a sec)
Got this at walmart blackfriday came with a KB case, suppose to be a Christmas present for my sister but I wanted to test it out
before giving it to here, I Just got into android my self 2 week ago.
Anyway I used I ran SRT appguard and it said it was vulnerable to 9695860 & 9950697
I tried detecting device in Cydia Impactor but it just said "requested resource not available" file missing?
So I used this USB driver here: ** Wont let me post links / See attached picture**
Cydia Impactor rooted successfully in about 30seconds, Funny srt appguard was still running and complained but it went thru anyway lol
Installed SU, all is good.
I was running WinXP x64
I could not find a firmware download for my particular model.. although you can find a list here:
** Wont let me post links / See attached picture**
Here's a list of firmwares for the 7223g model line
** Wont let me post links / See attached picture**
Now as for my particular model, I would not have bothered rooting it since it was suppose to be a gift however it has 2 problems.
1. The device is suppose to run at 1.2ghz.. mine is locked to a range of 800-1000 (awesome range huh?)
2. The governor seems to be really messed up.. no matter what type of load I put on it I could not get it to crawl out of 800mhz.
So I rooted to get Cpu tuner installed and working.. So now I've got it properly scaling ot 1ghz but that's still not right.
I've emailed CS but im not expecting much given the price and judging from their poor support on their website.
Debating if this shouldn't just go back to the store.
EDIT: Oh ya one more thing.. These tablets do not have a volume rocker.. just power button.. thought that was kinda on unusual other tablets I've seen all had volume buttons, I know that's usually how you boot them up into recovery.
EDIT2: LOL Well, dont bother emailing support.. I've tried twice both times bounced back fialure to deliver.
First time I thought it was because of the screen shot I attached, but 2nd one came back also.
Takes about a day for it to come back though, to lazy to look at the headers which are epic long.
Give them a call monday, probably gonna just return this tablet though.
EDIT3: Well I just realized the phone number is to Canada which counts as international on my cell.
So .. sent a email to their sales email hopefully that one don't get bounced.. If It does im probably gonna return it.
EDIT4: Ok sales address also bounces back, so both the email addresses on their site are borked.
EDIT5: Took it back for a refund, It developed a problem with charging on the 3rd cycle, it said it was 100% but the battery was flat dead and would turn off soon as I unplugged it.
I think the battery was bad I noticed it was warm right before this happen even when not doing anything..
To bad, tablet actually felt pretty solid in the hand.

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I can't seem to get my Proscan to show up, I have all proper drivers installed, USB Debugging enabled, but it still doesn't show up

How can I root my tablet rk2928sdk tsintech model i30
Thanks alot
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sat2020 said:
How can I root my tablet rk2928sdk tsintech model i30
Thanks alot
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Use app guard to check and see if the device is vulnerable to 8219321 or 9695860
If it is then Cydia Impactor will likely root it.
I posted how I did it on the proscan I had 2 posts up.
Should be same process if your device is vulnerable to either of those security flaws.

SRT app guard?
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SRT app guard?
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Ya It wont let me posts links because I don't have enough posts yet.
Do a search for SRT AppScanner in play store.

Raztan said:
Ya It wont let me posts links because I don't have enough posts yet.
Do a search for SRT AppScanner in play store.
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Ok I can confirm this works, downloaded root checker and root explorer. Both worked...is there a thread on here for this device or similar ones?
wondering how hard it would be to get a working custom recovery, would have to be something touch without keys, probably like TWRP. wouldnt mind doing some theme for this device.

horsemenofdeath said:
Ok I can confirm this works, downloaded root checker and root explorer. Both worked...is there a thread on here for this device or similar ones?
wondering how hard it would be to get a working custom recovery, would have to be something touch without keys, probably like TWRP. wouldnt mind doing some theme for this device.
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I think this is the only thread on the device.. or at least the biggest.
My unit was suppose to be a present for my sister.. but it turned out to be trash.. at least my particular one was
CPU was capped at 1ghz not 1.2.. broken governor never let the cpu get above 800mhz (lowest freq)
and battery quit taking a charge on 3rd cycle (despite it saying it was 100% charged.. it was a lie)
Support is basicly non existent for proscan, some units don't even have firmwares on their website, support/sales email addresses just bounce stuff back.
Ended up returning it and getting a azpen a700 from micro center for 40 bucks, smaller outfit but at least they have something resembling support.
android 4.2.2, technically inferior ot the proscan I had but since the unit I had was garbage I guess that's moot.
It's surprisingly snappy for what it is Allwinner a13 @ 1.2ghz, kernel allowed up to 1.5ghz but the unit I got was unstable even at 1250 so they must run those tabs at the ragged edge of stability, no issues at 1.2 though.
If you got a good proscan I graduate you, The one I had actually felt very solid and good in the hand.
Slightly above average screen for cheap tabs.

I updated my proscan plt-7223g with the firmware from curtis international now i dont have touch capability or internet connection. I'm still able to navigate with the keyboard. What i'm asking is if anyone has the stock image or stock firmware for it? It would awesome to get it back to out of the box state.

4eyedgal said:
@Klown80 and @jfmajo Thank you very much! I've successfully rooted the device with cydiaimpactor without a single hitch. Got SU through adb shell and all! . Took less than 5 minutes!
Am loving this tablet now! It's actually quite fast and smooth now that I've been using it much.
Next stop: how to remove bloatware and make my inexpensive device even faster and show it off to my friends who got expensive ones eh!! Any suggested readings? Please do share!
Thanks so much again. You guys rock!
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thanks i got my kids tablet rooted this way proscan plt7223g.. i want to installed a custom rom now any idea on speeding this tablet up ?

VZW Bootloader Unlock/Root Discussion

Hey all!
Since the V20 has one big thread I wanted to create one for us Verizon users.
As you know the T-Mobile variant is unlockable but so far ATT and Verizon are locked (as expected.)
I know the Google Pixel is an entirely different device but utilizing DirtyCoW should also work the same on our V20.
I was advised "in theory" it is absolutely feasible. I would hope to get some experienced devs in here to work on it since according to @jcase and @beaups there is most likely a fix coming from Google in November.
However don't bother Jcase or beaups because jcase was 100% stating he will not work on LG devices at all. This is myfirst LG device ever so hopefully those that know people cantag any developers they know in hopes of them working with us towards unlocking the BL and or rooting this device before its too late!
Thanks
EDIT: Bounty thread is live, go thank the OP and if youre able to then you can make a pledge!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/bounty-thread-lg-v20-devices-locked-t3495200

Come on guys, 23 views no comments lol.. who are the best LG devs around XDA??

Nor in here. Lg doesn't get a lot of love.and deservedly so. Sales are abysmal usually. Hopefully v20 fixes that. Or at least for this phone.

My SO uses my hotspot at work and at her place over the weekend, seems like FoxFi won't work for us without root. With that said I'd be willing to contribute to a bounty for at least get rooting our devices possible to get that service working again.

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Nor in here. Lg doesn't get a lot of love.and deservedly so. Sales are abysmal usually. Hopefully v20 fixes that. Or at least for this phone.
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low sales doesnt mean its not a solid device lol, just means not as popular as sammy or crapple is all

I mean quite honestly if we are able to get root on this phone for all variants (Tmobile, AT&T, VZW, etc.) Then I will be happy. I dont care much about bootloader as I do root. I hope Chainfire may look into getting root for this once he polishes up the root for the Pixel.

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I mean quite honestly if we are able to get root on this phone for all variants (Tmobile, AT&T, VZW, etc.) Then I will be happy. I dont care much about bootloader as I do root. I hope Chainfire may look into getting root for this once he polishes up the root for the Pixel.
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i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?

I want root too. I want to be able to have high impedance mode on all the time. I also want to delete all the Verizon crap and bring back what they removed.

elliwigy said:
i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?
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True, its just my previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S5 Active which only had a root solution and no way to unlock the bootloader.
And I believe the issue they are having is being able to get around the SELinux making sure the phone only boots with an unmodified system because if I was following the thread correctly they had managed to get to flash a .img correctly but it wouldnt boot when they did the flash. But if Chainfire was able to get around that with the Pixel I cant see why we won't have root if we had both of those people collaborate with their findings

elliwigy said:
i would think itd be similar.. they both run Android 7 and usually his flashable zips work on more than one device..
to be honest i feel the unlocked BL would be the best scenario for us as soon as they figure out a way to have a twrp style recovery..
if im not mistaken thats the issue tmo has right now? no way to flash a recovery or no recovery partition?
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Actually there is a twrp for tmob variants in testing stage if you wpuld like to be on be board chexk out his thread and jpin the testing crew

rickberg said:
Actually there is a twrp for tmob variants in testing stage if you wpuld like to be on be board chexk out his thread and jpin the testing crew
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the thread title has VZW in it because I have verizon lol not tmo.. theres really no one working towards our devices as we dont have bl unlock as an option without someone exploiting it

twistedvip said:
True, its just my previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S5 Active which only had a root solution and no way to unlock the bootloader.
And I believe the issue they are having is being able to get around the SELinux making sure the phone only boots with an unmodified system because if I was following the thread correctly they had managed to get to flash a .img correctly but it wouldnt boot when they did the flash. But if Chainfire was able to get around that with the Pixel I cant see why we won't have root if we had both of those people collaborate with their findings
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Well i believe he already did that previously with systemless root.. but yea, it changes with each os update practically lol

elliwigy said:
the thread title has VZW in it because I have verizon lol not tmo.. theres really no one working towards our devices as we dont have bl unlock as an option without someone exploiting it
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My apologies I assumed twrp was device wide not carrier specific

Turned in verizon pixel for this v20. Couldnt get over the small screen with huge bezels hope the dev get this phone unlocked as quickly as pixel. Im liking the v20 much more than pixel so far.

elliwigy said:
Hey all!
Since the V20 has one big thread I wanted to create one for us Verizon users.
As you know the T-Mobile variant is unlockable but so far ATT and Verizon are locked (as expected.)
I know the Google Pixel is an entirely different device but utilizing DirtyCoW should also work the same on our V20.
I was advised "in theory" it is absolutely feasible. I would hope to get some experienced devs in here to work on it since according to @jcase and @beaups there is most likely a fix coming from Google in November.
However don't bother Jcase or beaups because jcase was 100% stating he will not work on LG devices at all. This is myfirst LG device ever so hopefully those that know people cantag any developers they know in hopes of them working with us towards unlocking the BL and or rooting this device before its too late!
Thanks
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Well Jcase & Beaups were awesome with the dev support for root and s-off for the HTC M8, a phone I just moved on from for the LG V20, my first LG smartphone. Love the V20 so far, but bummed Jcase wont work on LG devices. I wonder why?

IR1 said:
Well Jcase was awesome in all the dev support for the HTC M8, a phone I just moved on from for the LG V20, my first LG that isnt a work phone. Love the V20 so far, but bummed he wont work on LG devices. I wonder why?
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i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol

elliwigy said:
i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol
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There was an insane amount of drama in the t-mobile v10 development threads last year and earlier this year and he pretty much threw his hands in the air and said good riddance...
It was pretty crazy. Every time I'd check the threads there'd be a message from a moderator about cleaning the thread and last warning etc.
Drama!

elliwigy said:
i briefly talked to him in other threads and something about the lg community and there being fake devs working on LG etc. lol
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I remember jcase from 2012 when he helped us get the LG Spectrum working with the latest CWM. He used to be in a chatroom all the time with PlayfulGod and Death2all and me and another guy were the testers I haven't seen jcase in ages. Good to know he's still around. And speaking of PlayfulGod, perhaps he might take a look at the verizon V20 since he did do a lot of recovery work for LG devices back in the day. I don't even know if he's still around. Anyway, you mentioning jcase just brought back memories.
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patterson?? said:
Turned in verizon pixel for this v20. Couldnt get over the small screen with huge bezels hope the dev get this phone unlocked as quickly as pixel. Im liking the v20 much more than pixel so far.
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I exchanged the Pixel XL for the V20 and glad I did. I just don't get what all the rage is about with that device. I had it for 6 days and was over it. It got warm in the hand even from normal use with the brightness turned down. The display hardly got bright enough for outdoor use. The mics on it were terrible. The 1080p 60fps video recording was awful. The EIS was robotic and not well executed at all. The camera was good but not what people are making it out to be...meh. The bootup was slow and I hated that it played a tune. The display whites had a yellow tint to them when compared to my Note 7 and V20 which I didn't like at all. And overall it was a very average and boring device which I could not justify spending 36 a month for when I could get the V20 for 28 and have way more features and a $150 pair of headphones.

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I remember jcase from 2012 when he helped us get the LG Spectrum working with the latest CWM. He used to be in a chatroom all the time with PlayfulGod and Death2all and me and another guy were the testers I haven't seen jcase in ages. Good to know he's still around. And speaking of PlayfulGod, perhaps he might take a look at the verizon V20 since he did do a lot of recovery work for LG devices back in the day. I don't even know if he's still around. Anyway, you mentioning jcase just brought back memories.
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I exchanged the Pixel XL for the V20 and glad I did. I just don't get what all the rage is about with that device. I had it for 6 days and was over it. It got warm in the hand even from normal use with the brightness turned down. The display hardly got bright enough for outdoor use. The mics on it were terrible. The 1080p 60fps video recording was awful. The EIS was robotic and not well executed at all. The camera was good but not what people are making it out to be...meh. The bootup was slow and I hated that it played a tune. The display whites had a yellow tint to them when compared to my Note 7 and V20 which I didn't like at all. And overall it was a very average and boring device which I could not justify spending 36 a month for when I could get the V20 for 28 and have way more features and a $150 pair of headphones.
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@PlayfulGod @DEATH2All if youre stillaround would like to kindly ask if you still delve into this type of stuff?

@DEATH2All
lame.. wont let me do a mention with his sig lol keeps putting as death2

Sprint LS997 variant updated to ZV9

I just got the update and for the first time it was nice to be up to date with security patches for a change lol... the previous updates were usually a month or two behind..
But the download didn't specify fixes or improvements, I wonder if anyone knows a way to find out if there are any, like at the sprint website with a change log.. I can't seem to find one as I used to find one with previous phones with sprint.
the update was about 650 mb.

and nobody to update it to zv9. Seems the rom community has halted.

hi guys my phone update to zv8 can i do downgrade firmware to zv6 or earlier ?

No u cant unfortunately

I'm almost willing to forego my root and hotspot for an updated phone at this point. Particularly because every rom I've tried has been a goddamn Bluetooth nightmare, and somehow I suspect aosp isn't going to be better because I've never had a phone run aosp without Bluetooth issues, and I've tried 9 phones.

Hey guys, this is a new phone to me (was rocking a release date Note 3 until last week), and unfamiliar with this forum specifically. (Not sure how I like sticking all the carrier variants in one section, but given the relative obscurity of the phone, I guess it makes sense...)
This seems like as good as any place to ask fellow Sprint V20 user w/o creating a new(b) thread unnecessarily?
I'm also on the ZV9, and it's been so long since I've had an unrooted phone, I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass it is. True adblocking alone is driving my need for root here.
Is my phone rootable with this version of software? Is the Dirty Santa the way to go? Thanks in advance!
Sent from my LG-LS997 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

No its not unfortunately

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No its not unfortunately
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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response. ((I apologize for the non-searching, noobish questions, it's been a few years since I was an XDAddict, and still feeling my way around this new forum section.))

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Ugh. Thanks for the response.
The phone is brilliant (after rocking the same phone for over 4 years, even last years phone feels like magic), but this might end up being a deal breaker for me.
Do you know off the top of your head what carrier models are still rootable?
My MNVO carrier (Ting) has other options of carrier models I can use, but T-Mob seems to be the most compatible.
Either way, thanks again for the quick response.
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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasnt been updated

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Unfortuanely none right now unless u can find one that hasn't been updated
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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.

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No s**t. That's abysmal. How long has this model been like this? Is root a WIP, or a done deal unless LG/carriers relinquish?
I swear to F'ing gawd, this is the last time I buy a device w/o researching the ... heck out of it here first. IDK what I was thinking.
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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.

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Its been like this since june nobody updated root but they have a life you know people do it for free.. Development is pretty much dead except for los rom there updating pretty fast.
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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.

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yeah, the unpaid work of XDA devs is a thankless job. I try to make donations to devs that have made my life better.
And I suspect with the relative obscurity of this phone, there won't be much more root dev'ing happening at all.
Might have to make a new device gameplan. And I really, really, never want to go back to Samsung.
Thanks for entertaining my questions, you've been helpful, man.
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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.

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I just got the v20 ls 997 also has zv9 preinstalled. I've been reading the forums and there is still active work on root for these phones. Thats all I know. Seems like they are trying to create a kdz or tot file since sprint never released one for this phone. Also there is a thread about creating a universal lg bootloader solution. I think there is some active work in the G6 forum and they talk about how it could help other models.... Just keeping my fingers crossed because I too haven't had a nonrooted phone in about 5 years and I don't like it. nope. don't like it one bit. The v20 is good but would be a dream if I could get root. heres to staying hopeful and keeping an eye on the resale market value.
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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.

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Interesting! Good info, I'm still digging through this forums on this device, trying to wrap my head around it.
This really is a 'best bang for the buck' phone right now, esp if one is on a budget, getting a slightly older device. (I was limited to 300 or less by the wife in my search for a device to replace my old Note3) Plus the removable batt, the SD card use, a jack, a great cam...
I don't even use root that extensively (not a flashaholic anymore), but for the 2 or 3 reasons I do, it's important.
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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.

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I switch ROMs but really just being able to block all the ads! I didn't realize there was so many. And creating a back up shouldn't be so hard. Don't even get me started on all the background stuff apps are doing! And really there are so many great features missing from stock experience.
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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)

anybody knows if zv9 nougat version for sprint lg v20 can be gsm unlocked?

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Yup. That's the NUMBER ONE reason for me. True adblocking.
Been doing my normal browsing for the last week on this unrooted device, and (long stream of explitives here) the amount ads that I had forgotten about are stunning.
Getting rid of bloatware would be nice as well.
Have to admit though, stock LG isn't horrible, compared to Samsung.
(used all my thanks for the day, damnit)
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How to root the G970U?

What's the best guide to root the G970U? I'm finding guides for the Exynos variant but not so much for this one. Have even read that it can't be rooted or it isn't supported so far :crying:

As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.

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As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.

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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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I would not recommend it. The form factor and specs are all great, although the battery is a bit on the small side. It has automated power savings features, except you can't control those easily with Tasker (you can with Bixby, but most of its profile triggers are pretty limited). And the power savings features appear to mute Google navigation when the screen shuts off.
But after being on custom roms since basically the beginning, One UI has been a gigantic pain to learn where all the settings are (and getting around not being rooted to do things I like/need). I could go on and on.
I put off upgrading for years for a smaller phone with decent specs. This was about the only option for me. I'd definitely recommend the Exynos version, but that's a no-go if you're in the US.

Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug

I can't root Samsung Galaxy S10e Snapdragon.
I already unlocked oem lock, kg lock.
But I can't find the right twrp for beyond0q. (no lte)
The office twrp is only beyond0qlte. It is no usable.
I flash TWRP_G9700_3.3.1-9.tar success.
but I don't know why I install magisk failed.

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Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...

I would like to root just so I can have control over my phone, but I guess those Android days are over here in the US. ?
And it's sad because this phone is almost perfect. Having the fingerprint reader on the back and giving it a normal power button would make it so. Every company out there is a churning out overpriced phablets with a load of junk we don't need nor care for.

I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab

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I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I have a terrible problem hitting the Bixby and Volume keys when I try to press the power button. I had to use a re-mapping function to disable single & long press on Bixby.
Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do, finally, with Tasker. A few things I need AutoInput for (which is far from ideal, unless it's a task you can do late at night when you aren't using your phone).
The single task I couldn't do satisfactorily was custom charging limits to try to save battery since I charge my phone overnight. That can only be done with root! Although this could maybe be accomplished by toggling the USB connection from charging to file transfer. But obviously that's not an option with wireless charging.

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...Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do...
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Please do start a thread. Once I get my s10e I can contribute what I've been able to do using the few tools I'm familiar with.

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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
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Got a link for that guide? I dont care so much for having a custom rom flasher. I just want to root.

I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!

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I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!
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cuteness...

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cuteness...
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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?

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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
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This answer is kinda condescending and not helpful. I get it's a pain to explain the birds and bees all the time, but it's even more of a pain to browse hundreds of non-answers on XDA to find info.
@wseverin he's basically saying that the G970U/1 doesn't have an OEM switch in developer settings because it's not *factory unlockable*. Generally, only the EU, by forcing telecoms and Samsung through legislation, have phones with unlockable bootloaders.
Truth is, there IS a way to root the US version of the 10e. You can find various threads on XDA of people referring to Telegram channels where they'll charge you money to remotely root your phone.
They do this through either various hardware/software dongle bundles, or ENG firmware. The S7 / G930U was rooted with an ENG firmware flash - at the expense of battery life.
In this thread they talk specifically about using ENG firmware to unlock the bootloader of the G970U: https://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f1...sm-g975-sm-g973-sm-g970-2570127/#post13639840
For US devices the only solution is by flashing an eng-boot + script if it exists for your particular device/version.
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Whether or not that would work, I don't know. I've ordered a couple of S10e to test on. But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.

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But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
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Thanks for these infos which haven't been shared on XDA yet.
IMO those with the knowledge to root the G970U think that they can make more profit by selling the rooting service for 100 or 200 $ per phone than to collect the bounty (although I think that they are wrong with this.)
I'm quite annoyed by the posts on XDA which advertise the paid rooting service (like "contact me per PM to get further infos"), although I can't really care as an Exynos user.

Has anyone found a way to root sm-g970U in 2021 for android 11? or its just not worth the effort

No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new

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No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
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Lol i know how you feel but dont because trust me if youre a root fan you arent gonna enjoy it tbh i sold mine like a few weeks after i got it and im just planning to get an Iphone and use it for the forseable future until i change my mind. If you love root dont buy the S or Note devices buy the j or A but if you dont like those i know because they are low end devices sometimes especially for a gamer..... so intead probably get a poco phone one of the newer ones with a snapdragon 860 or a xiaomi with flagship tier performance etc because i know xiaomi and google pixels there bootloaders can be opened and the warranty isnt voided permanently.... meaning once you unroot you get back warranty atleast thats what im sure ive noted.