I have been going back and forth between rltoday and HTC Home. I have issues with both and I like them both. I am currently running the HTC Home plugin.
rltoday Pros:
Highly configurable (if you have time)
very light weight
can use with the hidelogo cab
free
rltoday Cons:
limited user community (for my device)
unable to navigate with five-way
limited native functionality (additional scripts or 3rd party apps needed)
no weather plugin
HTC Home Pros:
Customizable (HTC Home Config)
multi-tabbed
built-in weather
built-in ringer profile selections (with HHC)
launch music player from today screen as well as see what's playing
built-in picture dialer
no 3rd party apps/scripts needed
free
HTC Home Cons:
unable to use hidelogo cab
weather plugin is limited (even with HHC)
profile selections don't always work
a. doesn't vibrate but is silent
b. when the meeting/event is over speaker is turned all the way down
when the clock is touched it launches the time/alarm settings (annoying)
So, what are you running on your today screen and why?
hey too bad nobody is answering to this i would love to know all the cool today plugins there is. Im running the HTC Home plugin and sometimes the cool Pointu interface.
How about you guys ?
I prefer the simple but elegant approach...until something really groundbreaking comes along :
TA Pro: controls LED, and gives quick stats and weather
GoodMobile Messaging Calendar and Mail (also displays sms count)
cLaunch: Three 2xtabs (each tab has 2 wrap rows) with my common apps. I've also modified cLaunch.dll to play nicer with the 240x240 display when in the settings area of the app.
Hidelogo to give a little more real estate
I've also replaced battery.exe with an HTC version that gives a better battery icon and little more display flexibility.
QuickMenu 2.7 to assist with app closing, hibernate, soft reset and additional menu browsing needs.
fTouchflo (last free version) for easier touch navigation
I've replaced the default tahoma.ttf with the one from my XP workstation for a smoother font appearance
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I really like throttle launcher as a replacement for cLaunch, but presently it takes up too much memory and is a little cumbersome to configure on the fly.
PointUI is promising, but needs better hooks into "Good" before I can use it, plus needs more customization options to allow me to get to what I need in a minimum of "clicks" - it's not presently able to give me what my present setup offers me.
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screen captures with PocketScreen" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328627
tmknight said:
I prefer the simple but elegant approach...until something really groundbreaking comes along :
TA Pro: controls LED, and gives quick stats and weather
GoodMobile Messaging Calendar and Mail (also displays sms count)
cLaunch: Three 2xtabs (each tab has 2 wrap rows) with my common apps. I've also modified cLaunch.dll to play nicer with the 240x240 display when in the settings area of the app.
Hidelogo to give a little more real estate
I've also replaced battery.exe with an HTC version that gives a better battery icon and little more display flexibility.
QuickMenu 2.7 to assist with app closing, hibernate, soft reset and additional menu browsing needs.
fTouchflo (last free version) for easier touch navigation
I've replaced the default tahoma.ttf with the one from my XP workstation for a smoother font appearance
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I really like throttle launcher as a replacement for cLaunch, but presently it takes up too much memory and is a little cumbersome to configure on the fly.
PointUI is promising, but needs better hooks into "Good" before I can use it, plus needs more customization options to allow me to get to what I need in a minimum of "clicks" - it's not presently able to give me what my present setup offers me.
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Any screenshots?
My Today screen is settled. I have finalized on HTC Home Plugin. No other plugins on the screen. You will notice that I have the bluetooth and the carrier information hid. This is accomplished with Memaid removing the "active call", and "lookup". This does make some additional challenges like the usage of the talk (green) and end (red buttons) as well as the ringer. These are easily overcome by registry changes. I also employed the HTC Home Customizer to make the background transparent and have the "Vista" icons. Music is being played on the device and only showing in the plug (not title bar) through the use of "wk Task". Also I have the battery icon on the today screen but on other apps the time is displayed. This is a result of HHC as well. You can have the time only always; I chose to have it only away from the Today screen. You will also notice that the left and right softkeys are different. Because I am using the standard Windows Mobile dialer, I can customize these keys. One goes to the mail/messaging and the other goes to my IM program. I am running WM6.1 Lite OS (ROM).
I intend to write a complete document on how to do these customizations. It can be frustrating looking for hours and days piecing things together. WinMob has been a lot more fun for me than Palm (former 650 user).
What other options are out there? Feel free to chime in.
Just added quick menu to the list. It is amazing!
Quickmenu
I have found that this application makes my Treo unresponsive. I noticed that after selecting the application, my phone seems to hang or be very slow. I have uninstalled it until I can figure what is making it unresponsive.
Quickmenu Issue
I have not encountered any performance issues (did you soft reset after install). Here are the settings I have employed:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Display]
"BatteryMode"=dword:00000003
"BkgndCacheMode"=dword:00000001
"BkgroundImage"=""
"BkgroundMode"=dword:00000001
"SelectionAlpha"=dword:00000099
"ShowAppIcon"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskClose"=dword:00000001
"TextColorOnImage"=dword:00e0ffe0
"WindowLeft"=dword:00000060
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Exclude]
"Count"=dword:00000006
"Item1"=">\\Windows\\wmplayer.exe"
"Item2"=">\\Program Files\\Navigator\\TomTom Navigator.exe"
"Item3"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\Total Commander\\cecmd.exe"
"Item4"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\RSA SecurID\\RSA_SecurID.exe"
"Item5"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\googlemaps\\googlemaps.exe"
"Item6"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\EsmertecJBed\\jbed.exe"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\General]
"AutoEndSyncTask"=dword:00000001
"AutoStart"=dword:00000001
"CacheImageIndex"=dword:00000001
"EnableXButton"=dword:00000000
"LongPressAppIconFunc"=dword:000003f9
"OkKeyEndTask"=dword:00000001
"RegisterHomeKey"=dword:00000001
"ReplaceStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"RightArrowEndTask"=dword:00000001
"TEditWhenEditing"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\MenuItems]
"CustomProgramFolder"=""
"CustomProgramMenu"=dword:00000000
"SubItems"=hex:\
1a,04,00,01,24,04,00,01,2e,04,00,01
"TopItems"=hex:\
00,04,01,00,fd,03,01,01,00,00,00,00,d0,07,01,01,00,00,00,00,02,04,01,00,fc,\
03,00,00,00,00,00,00,06,04,01,01,01,04,01,01,f2,03,01,00,00,00,00,00
Well my today screen is running SPB Mobile Shell 2.
Version 2 looks real nice and has some cool animations too.
lew, i sent you a pm, id love to get rid of palm dialer and the att/bt logos while keeping red/green button functionality.
I got what I need installed (memmaid, total commander) i just dont know what to do.
what registry settings did you use to get the green and red phone keys functional again after disabling the carrier/bluetooth icons?
Green/Red Button Functionality
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
Quick Menu
tmknight said:
I have not encountered any performance issues (did you soft reset after install). Here are the settings I have employed:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Display]
"BatteryMode"=dword:00000003
"BkgndCacheMode"=dword:00000001
"BkgroundImage"=""
"BkgroundMode"=dword:00000001
"SelectionAlpha"=dword:00000099
"ShowAppIcon"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskClose"=dword:00000001
"TextColorOnImage"=dword:00e0ffe0
"WindowLeft"=dword:00000060
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Exclude]
"Count"=dword:00000006
"Item1"=">\\Windows\\wmplayer.exe"
"Item2"=">\\Program Files\\Navigator\\TomTom Navigator.exe"
"Item3"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\Total Commander\\cecmd.exe"
"Item4"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\RSA SecurID\\RSA_SecurID.exe"
"Item5"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\googlemaps\\googlemaps.exe"
"Item6"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\EsmertecJBed\\jbed.exe"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\General]
"AutoEndSyncTask"=dword:00000001
"AutoStart"=dword:00000001
"CacheImageIndex"=dword:00000001
"EnableXButton"=dword:00000000
"LongPressAppIconFunc"=dword:000003f9
"OkKeyEndTask"=dword:00000001
"RegisterHomeKey"=dword:00000001
"ReplaceStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"RightArrowEndTask"=dword:00000001
"TEditWhenEditing"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\MenuItems]
"CustomProgramFolder"=""
"CustomProgramMenu"=dword:00000000
"SubItems"=hex:\
1a,04,00,01,24,04,00,01,2e,04,00,01
"TopItems"=hex:\
00,04,01,00,fd,03,01,01,00,00,00,00,d0,07,01,01,00,00,00,00,02,04,01,00,fc,\
03,00,00,00,00,00,00,06,04,01,01,01,04,01,01,f2,03,01,00,00,00,00,00
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Did you install this or did you unzip and launch it? I didn't find an installer (or cab). I will launch it again and reset the device and see if it works.
mobilelew said:
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
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Thanks for the tutorial, but now the red key no longer turns off the screen. Any ideas
Red Button No Longer Turns Off Screen
I too have the same problem with the red button. To aleviate this I have created a button shortcut that allows me to lock the phone by pressing one button. Using QuickMenu, in the options, on the command tab, choose lock from the list and click on create shortcut. You can now assign a button to this to lock the phone. I choose the OK button. So if I press and hold OK, my phone will lock.
By the way, the issue that I was having with QuickMenu was a conflict with CTRL-Pro. After removing it I am now able to use QuickMenu without any problems.
mobilelew said:
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
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why not use the "hidelogo.cab" floating around and be done with it? Never had an issue with any soft or hard buttons.
mobilelew said:
Did you install this or did you unzip and launch it? I didn't find an installer (or cab). I will launch it again and reset the device and see if it works.
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I use the executable and DLL's from http://www.alensw.com/attachment/QuickMenu_2.7.rar
I extract to ExtROM and create a shortcut to the EXE in windows\startup.
All the settings are stored in the registry, use total commander or your preferred flavor of reg reader to import/export for backup/restore purposes.
Cheers
why not use the "hidelogo.cab"
The hidelogo.cab causes a reset loop with the HTC Home plugin.
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Here is my home screen. Running WM6.1 Regular Version.
paypalbid said:
Here is my home screen. Running WM6.1 Regular Version.
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What are you using to put the icons on the screen?
mobilelew said:
The hidelogo.cab causes a reset loop with the HTC Home plugin.
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Yes, yes it does - good luck!
I want to map the green "phone" ("send") button to work as speakerphone with long keypress when phone is used, but I can't find any info.
OTOH I notice most ROMs use long press for this button and map usually wireless managers, which would be fine if it would work that way only when phone is not in use (and 'restore' the speakerphone function for long press when phone is in use) but I have not seen such solution yet. Has anyone done/try this?
-888- said:
I want to map the green "phone" ("send") button to work as speakerphone with long keypress when phone is used, but I can't find any info.
OTOH I notice most ROMs use long press for this button and map usually wireless managers, which would be fine if it would work that way only when phone is not in use (and 'restore' the speakerphone function for long press when phone is in use) but I have not seen such solution yet. Has anyone done/try this?
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Hi,
Deleting Long_Send.lnk might restore original function of long press send key sir,.
Hope it help,.
Regards
Unfortunately, I don't think you can have two different functions based on context. AdvancedConfig has an option to map pretty much anything to the long send.
Garmin said:
Hi,
Deleting Long_Send.lnk might restore original function of long press send key sir,.
Hope it help,.
Regards
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Thank you, Sir
blue_94_trooper said:
Unfortunately, I don't think you can have two different functions based on context. AdvancedConfig has an option to map pretty much anything to the long send.
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Well, I was thinking about something more complex than I can do myself, hence my post here.
Idea is to make a small applet which will switch the function of the button based on the processes running (or other ways to determine it) and assigning different shortcut to this button. I.e. when the phone is connected it will assign speakerphone to the "send - long press", when phone is not in use it would redirect "send - long press" to the wireless manager, if you know what I mean (sorry my english); so virtually mapping the "green" button to this app could achieve that, no?
intersted also in your send key LKP!!
-888- said:
Thank you, Sir
Well, I was thinking about something more complex than I can do myself, hence my post here.
Idea is to make a small applet which will switch the function of the button based on the processes running (or other ways to determine it) and assigning different shortcut to this button. I.e. when the phone is connected it will assign speakerphone to the "send - long press", when phone is not in use it would redirect "send - long press" to the wireless manager, if you know what I mean (sorry my english); so virtually mapping the "green" button to this app could achieve that, no?
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I also want exactly the same setup! Great minds think alike!
Your mention about the wireless manager sounds a handy idea also, and I am at present having to use a long keypress on the left hand hardware 'record' button. This is fine, but I also have it mapped to normal press = audio record. But want to use it for something else at some point.The more buttons free the better. To be able to have the sent button act on a long key press to work the speakerphone seems to me like something that should actually be in place by default. I mean, what better way to start the speakerphone!!
I do hope someone is able to shed some light on this, or you manage to pull it off yourself you can count me in to try the fix etc.
PS:: Would a MORT SCRIPT help in this situation I wonder? I am not familiar with MS but sure someone may know a way round it.
Regards
Nick-UK
Thanks for your kind support
I wrote about this year or more ago on another forum, but few responses I got were discouraging at best.
I think if we could do such "app", we could use it for all the buttons and change their "assignments" based on the currently running apps...
With scripts we can do things like rename "Long_Send.lnk" into "Long_Send.disabled" (for example) instantly, and rename it back to "Long_Send.lnk" when i.e. pressed again. But the problem is that I don't know how to "detect" and use it in the scripts what is currently running and discriminate between foreground and background processes that are currently running?
Because what if you have two (or more!) programs that are using the same button assignments but for different purposes and both are running in the same time? say you are on the phone talking - thus long_send is assigned to speakerphone, and you also run (for example) windows media player where you assigned same green button to fullscreen display? The scripts cannot tell which one is running in the foreground by themselves, and (in this example) holding green button could bring the WMP to fullscreen instead of turning on speakerphone. Beforewe use mortscript to "activate" apropiate script, we need to know which process was started last (so - per my example - we would know that the phone was last started and not the WMP, and mortscript would run "speakerphone script for green button" instead of "fullscreen wmp script for green button"... and there is another problem: the phone is always ON on our PocketPCs since boot, and it is running all the time in the background, so it will have to differentiate between phone being active and phone in the "waiting" state...). Apologies if I sound incomprejensible, I tried to make it clearer but I don't know is it less gibberish
to cut it short: I don't think it can be done with simple scripts. But of course I may be wrong.
In theory it should work this way:
1 Long_Send.lnk -> starts our "app"
2 "App" checks what program is currently running on the screen (in the forground, or last started etc)
3 "App" executes apropiate action assigned for this program (i.e. speakerphone for active phone call, or wireless manager for today screen, etc etc)
4 "App" releases/removes/disables the action from previous step and changes it back to the state it was before when the foreground program is closed (i.e. changes back long_send from assignment to speakerphone back to default once the phone call ended)
sounds simple, doesn't it?
As i know that touch pro is not only can be touched on the screen but also the hard button area ( home, back, call, hang up buttons)
How can i use that feature
Which software that i need to install or how can i active it
Thank for reading my topic
What do you want exactly? Do you want to remap hardware buttons?
the hardware buttons are enabled by default. you don't have to 'activate' them.
No! My point is how can i use the sensor of hardware button ^^
Well,did you mean to use the capacitive surface of those sensors,not the buttons itself? And what exactly do you want? Please explain.
google for "G-scroll"
TomasNM said:
Well,did you mean to use the capacitive surface of those sensors,not the buttons itself? And what exactly do you want? Please explain.
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My point is
Instead of pushing down the 4 hard buttons (call, back, home, hang off) i just need to touch it on the surface?
You can buy gscroll (mobilesrc.com), but unless you can get the 1.x series, I'd pass. The 2.x series is buggy as hell, and it seems like development has stopped. There are some free apps you can find around here as well. I'm thinking Dredscroll is one, and there was another app called Butler (I think, lol) that allowed you to use it as a launcher with gestures on the area. Gscroll lets you swipe to scroll (it's good for reading ebooks, when it's working) as well as to launch things, but it has the annoying habit of going on smoking breaks.
As I know HTC testing software,I can say,it could not be a problem to create an app of this kind,but...
- Do we have SDK for it(I didin't searched for it yet)?
- Currently I don't know,how to send keyboard hooks to the system
- I cannot prevent/disable default keyboard hooks
So that means,I am not able to solve your puzzle. Sorry.
That was my honest opinion...
I don't think he's asking about the Vibrant-Scroll Wheel, I think he's talking about the Optical Track, itself.
[As the Home, Back, Answer, & End Call buttons require you to actually PUSH them down.]
You know, the "OK/Enter" button. When you place you finger on it [NOT PRESS IT], by default, it lights up the Bottom Hardware Keys, as well as brightens the screen.
If it's not working for you, I recommend Backing up your Important Information with either SPB Backup or Microsoft MyPhone, and flashing a New ROM. There are certain Drivers that control the Optical Track. What they are, however, is beyond me.