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Guys, sorry about the noob question...I never had other ROM in my cap...and now Im going to try one of those we have here...So, can you guys tell me your opinion about the nicest ROM nowadays???
And could you give me the link as well???
Odin file is better for me...
Thanks buddies...
Mine.
Clearly.
No bias here.
None whatsoever.
They all have their own features.. not sure there really is a "best".
I wouldn't think in terms of ROM but core functionality.
Do you want overclocked or no overclocked? I9000 ROM, vibrant ROM, or a ATT leak Cappy ROM?
Do you want a ROM with a good community base to ask questions for help or do you not really care? If u want this go for a ROM with a high # of daily posts like axura (+1) or perception.
Also I recommend getting comfortable with clockwork over odin, it has a lower failure rate
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
The best rom is the one you just flashed successfully, as I see most people flashing different roms every other day. They are all pretty similar, I see Cognition/Perception as the beginner's ROM of choice and the rom most likely to satisfy you if you don't want to flash all the time.
fatttire said:
Do you want overclocked or no overclocked?
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Has nothing to do with ROMs and everything to do with Kernels.
Do you want a ROM with a good community base to ask questions for help or do you not really care? If u want this go for a ROM with a high # of daily posts like axura (+1) or perception.
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The implications of this statement are blatantly false.
Also I recommend getting comfortable with clockwork over odin, it has a lower failure rate
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Like HTML and Flash, they're only oppositional if you (foolishly) choose to make them that way.
Well, for a new person I think getting into kernels and modems might be a little much to intake all at once. What I think is that you should do is this:
Download Assonance, Perception, Axura, and whatever else is big and flash them one after another. Play with each for about 30 minutes and then decide what you like.
This will get you used to flashing roms too, which is important because once you pick a rom, you'll be flashing it biweekly (lol). Get used to ODIN (flashing back to stock), Download mode, ClockWorkManager (flashing a new rom) and TitaniumBackup (saving your angry birds progress through flashes =P, jk it backs up all apps and data).
For one, I like having the mobileAP tethering of Perception and the ability to toggle WCDMA/GSM (I have choppy WCDMA reception at my house)
But each rom has their own perks, you should check them all out and make a decision based on your own likes/desires. stop being lazy there is no best rom. lol
Yeah, there's not an easy answer for that question.
I would try out each ROM for 4 - 5 days and pick your favorite. I always keep my eyes on the change-logs for all of the ROMs though.
Personally, I use the ROM with the most humorous thread title.
That is what stickies are for
Stop making these threads and start reading stickies.
It is all trial and error for what works best for you. Ill give you an example. Some roms have headphone jack probs and for some that is a deal breaker but for me sense I use BT for everything I dont really need it and a rom without a working jack (phone calls) is not a big deal for me.
So in closing there is no best rom just best for you. Good luck on your journey
I deem this closed
Hello everyone.
Recently ordered a Samsung Sidekick 4G and reading on the forums
I noticed people saying that this device lags a lot, has random FCs, etc. and
that they way of getting "rid" of this was by rooting and installing
custom roms. As you might have figured by my low post count, I'm
a newbie with regards to Android phones or Android in general. So
I have a couple of questions.
I know where to look if I want to take the chance and do this
by following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275116
(thank God and moderators for stickies!-- making life easier )
But I would like to know:
1) What are the advantages of having Sidekick custom roms (apart
from the usual root access and what not). Is the stock Rom that bad?
Does it have lots of bloat slowing the phone?
2) Has anyone tried the different Roms out there and can I have
an assessment of what they do/offer? (i.e. which one you think
is the best with regards to battery life, bundle of sw, etc for
a newb). Basically their strenghts and weaknesses as I wouldn't want
to lose something important such as network services (i.e. 3G, WiFi, etc.)
And yes, I know that I can try them for myself, but I haven't
even received the phone and I'm scared sh!+less of rooting
don't want to think about repeating the process of the link
above to keep trying different Roms... so I will rely on your
experiences.
3) Since I wont be receiving OTA updates with or without a custom
Rom (I don't have t-mobile, it's an unlocked phone...), do
custom Roms already have stuff from OTA updates??
4) If Android 2.3 update is released for the Sidekick, will it
be available as a "custom" rom? Is that how it works for people
that don't get OTA updates?
5) If I decide to stick with stock Rom, could I still "root"
the phone and play with overclocking and all that jazz?
Finally,
6) What's the meaning of life?!?!?
Hope you can help me with these questions if you can.
And if you don't want to help me... then ... I'll be sad...
for a couple of minutes! ;-)
BTW I also ordered an LG Optimus Quantum just to also try the Windows
OS and compare between both, Android and Windows experiences
(I come from Symbian... Nokia FTW!!! ;-))
Thanks!
to question 4 it will be incorporated to the customs roms no doubt
to question 2 i have used gingerclone v2, lighting rom v2 , touchmiuiwiz, and glorious i like glorious the most so far and dislike lighting v2 the most gingerclone and touchmiui is the same rom different themes
to question 5 you can still root it and overclock it
to question 1 you get d can get better battery life, less bloatware, better signal,
to question 3 on the ota we used kg2 which was an ota as a mix with kd1
that was harsh xtreme .
saying i disliked the rom the most when basically i used 3 roms? thats not being harsh
IMO any rom developed by ayoteddy is worth checking out. Also always be sure to fully read each rom thread's first post; everything you need to know should be there.
And personally I wouldn't flash any rom or attempt to root until you're comfortable using adb commands (I've soft bricked a couple of phones myself and that's no fun at all).
There's a bunch of good youtube tutorials outlining everything from rooting to flashing custom roms. Good luck with everything and welcome to the sk4g family!
Sent from my SGH-T839 using XDA App
It was not harsh. lol. it's his opinion.
I have used gcv2 and glorius i loved the first but the later is def. Better, u can root without a custom rom. And dont fret about flashing a rom, this is my first phone that iv flashed, rooted etc. And yes after a week or so the stock launcher started lagging. Although i only got fc's on zeam
Sent from my SGH-T839 using xda premium
Thanks for the responses so far!
And I'll definitely stick with the stock settings but if I begin to experience bugs or lags, I'll definitely look into this! Now I have to check why the heck I'm only getting EDGE!! WTF?!! lol
Thanks.
go to wireless ettings and swtich from gsm to gs/wcda mode
I FAILED!!! :-(
I think I'm going to have to resell this phone on eBay...
I just noticed WHY it wont connect in 3G... T-Mobile phones seem to be "configured" to use the 1700 band but my service provider does 3G like AT&T and I think they use 1900...
Oh well... back to my second option... the Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro...
Thanks guys!
gelocks said:
But I would like to know:
1) What are the advantages of having Sidekick custom roms (apart
from the usual root access and what not). Is the stock Rom that bad?
Does it have lots of bloat slowing the phone?
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with a custom ROM battery usage decreases in some cases and it also allows for more customization of your phone. Like in some ROMs you can change your transition effects, dock settings, and menu settings. It allows you to pick how you want your phone to look. For most people that got the OTA update their phone got really bad with freezes and force closes, you'd have to reboot your phone every day. In the end if you don't like a ROM you can always switch back.
2) Has anyone tried the different Roms out there and can I have
an assessment of what they do/offer? (i.e. which one you think
is the best with regards to battery life, bundle of sw, etc for
a newb). Basically their strenghts and weaknesses as I wouldn't want
to lose something important such as network services (i.e. 3G, WiFi, etc.)
And yes, I know that I can try them for myself, but I haven't
even received the phone and I'm scared sh!+less of rooting
don't want to think about repeating the process of the link
above to keep trying different Roms... so I will rely on your
experiences.
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I've tried a few and at the moment i'm using glorious overdose by ayoteddy and sduvick. This ROM is very smooth and very nice but doesn't allow for as much customization as touchMUI or GingerClone. TouchMui allows you to customize the behaviors of your phone like menu, transitions, etc. through launcherpro which comes with the ROM, BUT it wants you to buy launcherPro when you try to do certain functions. Now i'm a newby too, barely rooted and flashed my phone a few weeks ago, as well as somebody that works with me. I've also experienced alot less forceclose issues with glorious overdose.
3) Since I wont be receiving OTA updates with or without a custom
Rom (I don't have t-mobile, it's an unlocked phone...), do
custom Roms already have stuff from OTA updates??
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There aren't really that many OTA updates but from what i've seen the devs here get stuff before it's actually released, such as KJ2, which we havent officially recieved yet. The one OTA update that happened actually made the phone run like crap, excuse my language.
4) If Android 2.3 update is released for the Sidekick, will it
be available as a "custom" rom? Is that how it works for people
that don't get OTA updates?
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Somebody will probably post a version of it on the forums and devs will most likely use it as soon as they get their hands on it, IF there's still deving going on for this phone at that time.
5) If I decide to stick with stock Rom, could I still "root"
the phone and play with overclocking and all that jazz?
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yes you can, I did that before i actually flashed my phone. root is a different thing than flashing a custom ROM to your phone.
Finally,
6) What's the meaning of life?!?!?
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according to wikipedia, The meaning of life constitutes a philosophical question concerning the purpose and significance of life or existence in general.
6 the purpose of life is to find the answer to that question yourself...
I am starting to understand why...but there are so many options...
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
First of all you have to try all roms and then go for the best one and the one who fits better to you... I can't say how to do it... Everyone is different
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
all rom's on xda are cool!¨
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
Well here are some preferences of mine...Perhaps you can narrow down three or four first choices.
Well I would not know the difference between sense based and not right now, so probably should aim to get close to it and slowly experiment outwards...
I want completely stable, the xe is fast enough so don't need faster (for now) but I do want themes capability. I like a very personalized interface. And ideally would rather make my own, but doubt I could without software for that like I had on my K77i.
I don't particularly care about popular, but I suppose popular does indicate stability and or other major benefits. I would not risk a new ROM I think.
I use mine, for everything, much more than calls and texts, and would use it to read a lot. So in that sense I do need low power consumption. Movies mostly at night with lowest brightness, but some times videos during the day too, such as exercise programs...
I hope not to catch a romming bug, I have had the phone only a few days and it's still not got all I want organized into it...It takes a lot of effort to set thing up right, at least for me, so I don't want to do that every couple of weeks...Mind you when I have the apps I want and calendar set up and what not I suppose that won't be so hard.
Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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if you're going for the ics aosp feel then you should try both hypernonsense and virtuous inquisition and then decide which one you want to keep
as someone already stated - you should ask yourself what do you really need and it should be easy then...
for instance i need a stable room,ics looks,everything working and as few system apps as possible(only those which are required for a rom to function properly),no live wallpapers,no unnecesary ringtones and simillar so i chose hypernonsense
cocoman93 said:
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
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HyperNonSense is everything Virtuous Inquisition is, but without all of the glitches and with significantly increased speed and fluidity.
Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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So the actual CM9 builds aren't doing it for ya are they?
When choosing a ROM I typically look at the bug list first to see if there are any show stoppers then its on to the comments posted to see what the general consensus of the ROM is.
Really though, I do a lot of sampling to get a feel for what ROMs I like best and narrow it down to just a few then flash between them depending on mood really and whether or not I feel like running AOSP or Sense based.
It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
8thsiner said:
It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
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This guide is one of the best ones I've seen (it is specific for arhd but steps are basically the same for all roms with ics base):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
It.is scary at first bit once you do it once it becomes a lot easier. Just take your time the first time, double check you've got the correct files, and then take a deep breath. LOTS of people have done it and I'm sure you'll be just fine.
-- Zeustopher
from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA
Apparently that is a very god guide, flashed with success, though I am having troubles with it, not aside from the fact that Titanium has been giving me issue hanging lots on certain installs, and now certain games crash upon loading past the main screen. and other games I now have touch issues, randomly it seems as it seems to freeze control for a few seconds.
ANd I am right in understanding now that my firmware is upto date I ca flash any ICS based rom?
I think it was the firmware issue that I missed in the hypernonsense rom thread, and that is why it banjaxed things to bits...
I am still looking at other roms bbig time like, I want go launcher as my base and I think the ICS base takes up far far too much space, I am getting lag with ARHD and not even all of my things are back in place.
The other issue I have is now I need to clean up my phone, 16gb card and I have barely 2gb left for all the different back ups...I only have 4gb or so in my documents folder which is where I keep nearly everything from pictures, music, videos and ebooks etc...
I think it will be easy enough to clean up some things, But for those apps that persistently bother me, Is there a good clean up tool, for destroying apps, plus data???Preferably a super user app with batch automation???
Zeustopher said:
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
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Thank you for the detailed info. I appreciate it. Helped me understand things a little bit better, since I am new to all this.:good:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
wjdijkstra said:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
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Wow you are spot on!
I thought of recommending you cm10.1 kang or something.. But the good camera won't be a pass in this (hands down sense 3.6 camera is the best).. So your choice is perfect except you'll miss the latest version of android (jellybean)
Btw you should use sultans sense kernel as hyper non sense is still sense based but 99% sense stuff removed
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
I'm on ARHD for a few days, good ROM but less fun than ROACH VANILLA (some freezes, no custom reboot menu).
I want to change it but :
-what is the best? (no bugs or too hard for a noob like me)?
-i want to keep all apps (too lazy with Titanium...)
Thanks a lot for your advices and hope i don't annoy you with noob question...
Answered your own question.
Aosp or aokp you would have to install gapps and run tb for your other apps. So if you don't want to do that then.......
OK, but in that case what is the best??
woevre55 said:
OK, but in that case what is the best??
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There's no such thing as best rom. Every user's usage pattern is different. If you're asking for opinions, i'm pretty sure there's going to be alot of different opinions coming from different users. Even you can't make your own decision which rom to flash.
Try every rom for a few days. Performance and stability is what you should look for in a rom. Once you've found the one that suits you best, stick with it.
Hello developers!
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms, but I assure u that i read carefully all the related subject n still I couldn't find answers :/
I've been always an Apple person and I am really satisfied with the ease of use and performance, somehow whileI I was looking for a tablet to update my old iPad a friend of mine was able to convince me that I should get an Android, and I end up buying Asus Tf700, of course after hours n hours of reading reviews n stuff and on the paper it's waaaaaaaay better than any other tablet, even the new iPad!! But still, on the PAPER
I really disappointed with the performance and the terrible lag even with the simplest task (like scrolling down a website or pinch zoom in/out) and it keeps crashing and freezing for no reason
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android Iam really confused
Root, rom,flash,kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
I want my device to work like how they claim it should (ASUS ppl) .. very smooth with no lag or crashes .. but on the other hand i don't want to lose any of it's features (camera, GPS) .. should I update to jb? Should I stay with ICS?
N how??
Sorry for the long post!:cyclops:
dr.hawk said:
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms
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Yes, especially when someone does not even read the forum rules, the moderator's sticky thread and posts a question in "Development" instead of "Q&A".
dr.hawk said:
I've been always an Apple person ...
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android Iam really confused
Root, rom,flash,kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
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Yes, you made a mistake changing to Android. It's not (yet) ready for end users, especially the TF700. Return it as long as you can and buy the new iPad.
If you are just looking for a device without lags and stutters then go for iOS.
But if you want/have to do things iOS can't do then go for Android and search for solutions for lag or live with it.
Android is sure the best smartphone os (Widgets, Launchers ,Tasker, Swype,...) but on tablets... I really don't know.
I love my Transformer but I mostly use it for surfing and gaming so maybe the iPad would have been the better choice.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
Or don't by Asus... Get a Nexus 7 or 10.That's the route he should've taken. Asus just released a bad device. To sit here and say Android isn't ready for end users is bologna..
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
_that said:
Yes, especially when someone does not even read the forum rules, the moderator's sticky thread and posts a question in "Development" instead of "Q&A".
Yes, you made a mistake changing to Android. It's not (yet) ready for end users, especially the TF700. Return it as long as you can and buy the new iPad.
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Thank u mr.police officer, my bad
I am not going to return it, I just want it to work probably!
floyd0815 said:
If you are just looking for a device without lags and stutters then go for iOS.
But if you want/have to do things iOS can't do then go for Android and search for solutions for lag or live with it.
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Exactly, I want solution .. there are too many rome and stuff which says choose what suits u the most, but I have no idea what are they!!
I read in the forum that flashing and unlocking JB = losing camera and GPS functions .. what should I do? *Note I am still runnig ICS
dasunsrule32 said:
Or don't by Asus... Get a Nexus 7 or 10.That's the route he should've taken. Asus just released a bad device. To sit here and say Android isn't ready for end users is bologna..
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The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
I feel your pain. When I first moved over to an Android device, I was also confronted with similar issues. Yes, Android can be intimidating. However, once you get a handle of it, I assure you, you won't stop flashing different ROMs on a regular basis. First calm down and read through the following threads to get started:
[TOOL] TF700T ADB Tool [v4] flash recovery and more
[ROM][01/04/13]Baked Black Bean 6[JB 4.1.2]
dr.hawk said:
Thank u mr.police officer, my bad
I am not going to return it, I just want it to work probably!
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Look, to be honest, I think everyone has been frightened in the beginning with unlocking and rooting, but in the end the tf700 is a really easy device to learn it with.
There are some guides in the general section (where you should have posted this thread ) and this section here.
As far as performance, I can tell you now that there is no Rom that works better than CleanRom In heritance.
It is *very* battery friendly, is really performant (forget about iPad, after that Rom you'll have the advantages of Android sealed in a super speedy packaging)
However, if you really feel you don't want to unlock the device yet, you should indeed at least update the tablet to the latest firmware, since it has some improvements to it. (I don't know how much the improvement is on the stock rom, but Clean Rom Inheritance is based on stock and it works like a charm).
By the way, there are no custom roms for the tf700 that give up on the gps and camera features. All developers here are real pros, so don't worry
And last but not least; if you were to update to the latest firmware and feel it's too laggy, (many people have said so), you should consider unlocking your device to put CleanRom on it. It's basically stock, but much smoother, faster and has no bloatware
Good luck making your iOS friends Jelly (pun intended) of your tf700. I know I have
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dr.hawk said:
The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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Have you bought the keyboard dock? And I still think the tf700 is better of the two, if only because of its looks and dock
I know you are taking about tablets but the title says android...
I own a 4s and iPad 3, back in June I bought the s3 and I was really impressed with what it can do but its lag and performance made me question it the same as you, having spent £540 on a buggy feeling device.
I finally got jelly bean on it, jelly bean combined with disabling some crappy Samsung bloat made the s3 faster and smoother than any apple device out there, my iPad and iPhone both feel laggy in comparison now.
I have never routed or flagged a rom though, completely stock.
Before long you will love jelly bean
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dr.hawk said:
Exactly, I want solution .. there are too many rome and stuff which says choose what suits u the most, but I have no idea what are they!!
I read in the forum that flashing and unlocking JB = losing camera and GPS functions .. what should I do? *Note I am still runnig ICS
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I just read this post so I'll quickly reply
By rooting and unlocking you will not compromise any of the camera qualities. It still works just the way it's supposed to on CleanRom (the rom I use) and I am pretty sure the developer of CM10.1 has it running too.
This device may not be what you expect it to be out of the box, but let me tell you.. The devs we have for the tf700 are all very talented and manage to get some impressive performance squeezed out of this device without resulting in battery drain.
You really can't go wrong chosing either CM10.1 or CRomI (as we call CleanRom Inheritance)
As for the options you can choose while installing CRomI, they are mainly
- the kernel: do you want to keep everything close to stock, resulting in better battery life, and no overclocking? Or do you want a tweaked kernel (Clemsyn) which means even better performance, without taking too much of a hit on battery life. The latter is overclocked. If you still don't know what to choose: I have recently gone back to stock since it's just a tad friendlier for the battery and CRomI is smooth enough as it is
- Apps: select which apps you want preinstalled in your rom and which you don't want (little tip: always make sure the Play Store is checked: it's a vital app to install other apps with and it's a pain in the @$$ to install it from somewhere else if you want to keep it up to date
This method of building your personal rom on the spot is handy to deselect the bloatware you don't use (eg. Asus screensaver) and select the 'bloat' you like (eg. Supernote)
- Tweaks: I usually select the all, because the make the device even smoother and faster
By the way: in misc apps you'll have an app called Titanium Backup: that app keeps your data while switching Roms and is a nice way of making sure you'll keep your progress in games
I should say though: even though I've never tried Cm10.1, I am sure it's a great rom and I don't want to force you or anyone else to only look at Cromi, since CM10.1 has its own advantages
Just have a look for yourself and if you have any further questions, you now know where to post them (either Q&A for actual questions or general for remarks and findings).
The development section is used solely by developers of Roms, mods and kernels to share their creations with the world
dr.hawk said:
The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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Dr. Hawk, I know that reading these replies still hard for you as far as "what next" and "how". I'm sure that after you done all the steps below, you will find out the grass does look greener on the other side (IOS vs Android). With Android you could do more...a lot more compared to ipad. You just need to take ONE step at a time and within a few days you should have a smile on your face. There are plenty of people here ready to help noob(beginner) like youseft. Also I would like to mention that unlocking your device will void waranty, but in my opinion, if you don't do it, you will not happy with your device and eventually you're not going to use it, so it useless anyway. Let us know and please post update here so we can proceed accordingly. Here are the steps:
1. Unlock your device (download Asus unlock tool app and run it. This needed in order to install custom rom/kernel)
2. Flash custom recovery (there are 2 to choose from TWRP and CWM. I recommend TWRP for noob, it just easier with nice big User interface)
3. Use TWRP or CWM to flash your favorite custom rom (If you want trouble free, full stock features, CleanRom is the one to use)
That's all my friend. While you're performing these steps you're going to feel good about yourself and rewarding. When you are ready to go, just post here and we will walk you through, step by step. Once everything is done let us know if you do smile at the end and "no regred" that you picked Android and tf700. Cheers!!!!!!
I'm a flasher since I got my first android device and I have to say I don't want to have an iOS device because of it's performance! If you have a good ROM (and on my TF300T GPU/CPU OC a bit) you will get the same system performance and way more cusomization options - only problem for me is that a friend from my class has an iPad and uses it for school - there I just see the disadvantage of Android Tablets - except system apps you just don't have many apps for productive work that are optimized for tablets - including Dropbox(!!) that are way better optimized on iOS...
But I think in 1 or maybe 2 years it will be like with phones that Open Source (Android and maybe then also Ubuntu if they take the step for tabs too) will be sold more than iPads and with this the apps will also get optimized better :good:
atm I can just cry because of a friend made an own app for iOS to edit his scaeed books etc. and I can just open them with a non-optimized Adobe PDF Reader
so if you want now Custom ROM too, have a look at this guide and follow the steps unlock your bootloader, Flash recovery (I recommend TWRP!) and then go to the ROM you want (I recommend stock based: Clean ROM or AOSP based which means more customization options: Baked Blackbean) and install it with the installation instructions there - if you then still have questions ask in Q&A section because here it is only development section
dr.hawk said:
Hello developers!
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms, but I assure u that i read carefully all the related subject n still I couldn't find answers :/
I've been always an Apple person and I am really satisfied with the ease of use and performance, somehow whileI I was looking for a tablet to update my old iPad a friend of mine was able to convince me that I should get an Android, and I end up buying Asus Tf700, of course after hours n hours of reading reviews n stuff and on the paper it's waaaaaaaay better than any other tablet, even the new iPad!! But still, on the PAPER
I really disappointed with the performance and the terrible lag even with the simplest task (like scrolling down a website or pinch zoom in/out) and it keeps crashing and freezing for no reason
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android I am really confused
Root, rom, flash, kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
I want my device to work like how they claim it should (ASUS ppl) .. very smooth with no lag or crashes .. but on the other hand i don't want to lose any of it's features (camera, GPS) .. should I update to jb? Should I stay with ICS?
N how??
Sorry for the long post!:cyclops:
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What I take from your displeasure is the recurring "Android is open source for the customizer and this I don't want."
So like the previous comments I would vote for a return to iOS.
iDevices are very well designed and usable.
So if your user experience has been less than pleasing with Android I wouldn't stick with it.
iOS devices are made for those who would like ease of use and having everything done automatically for them, and don't want to bother with things like settings and customisation and freedom of decision. If you're used to having everything done for you, stick with it. Changing to a system that requires you to manually do things for yourself when you don't want to is not going to make you very happy.
Apple is Use, don't Think.
Android is Think, don't just Use.
If you're used to the ease and smoothness of iOS, and were perfectly happy with the system, you're not going to like Android. Because Android isn't meant as an end-user OS.
Now, regarding flashing. I'm not going to try it on my tablet at all until the warranty has passed. The store I bought it from is not exactly know for its excellent customer service, and it updated to .30 before I heard about backing it up.
Is there a solution? Yes, get an iPad. The TF700 has some serious I/O issues which cause lag, but even if you're using the best of the best Android tab (whichever one that may be) you're still going to experience crashes, simply because of the customisation options. That's why iOS 'never' (ahem, hand me one, it'll crash.) crashes, you can't customized so there's no conflicts.
Don't get me wrong, I have an iPod 5th gen and love it (if Apple's warranty wasn't so horrendous...), and as a designer I appreciate the marketing and design behind iOS, but as a user I want to make my own choices, and I absolutely detest anything that goes automatic or makes its decisions for me.
That's not strictly true with newer devices.
Both my iPad 3 and iPhone get more app crashes and ui/keyboard lags than my stock int galaxy s3, which performs faster and smoother with everything except the dialer. Since using the s3the iOS screen doesn't seem as smooth as it used to, very slightly choppy moving between 2 app pages.
I use Nova launcher and it is perfectly smooth, fast and since the upgrades to jb 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 not a single crash or FCC, though on ICS there were many.
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dr.hawk said:
The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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+1 on nexus 10. I have both and even with custom rom the tf700 is not as smooth as the n10. No tweaking necessary. How come you can't return it?
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adelancker said:
Have you bought the keyboard dock? And I still think the tf700 is better of the two, if only because of its looks and dock
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first, thank u man! I decided to unlock and root my device!
I haven't bought the dock, maybe next step
These are really useful information, I decided to unlock, update to JB and to root .. :highfive:
I am going to start tonight, right after gym!
special thanks to:
-angel*
buhohitr
adelancker
cheers!! :highfive:
dr.hawk said:
These are really useful information, I decided to unlock, update to JB and to root .. :highfive:
I am going to start tonight, right after gym!
special thanks to:
-angel*
buhohitr
adelancker
cheers!! :highfive:
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Thats great news!
Don't hesitate to ask explanation when you don't get a step in the walktrhoughs.
They are usually written by people who are experienced using Android for people who are somewhat experienced as well So for a complete newcomer to the Android platform, I can imagine you'll ask yourself some quesitons later