Hi,
I got a tablet with an Intel Atom Z3745 Soc. The OS that comes shipped with this tablet is Android. I was wondering if it is possible to replace Android with Windows or a Linux Distro since the tablet runs on an Intel x64 soc? Any suggustions?
Tnx
Z37Z said:
Hi,
I got a tablet with an Intel Atom Z3745 Soc. The OS that comes shipped with this tablet is Android. I was wondering if it is possible to replace Android with Windows or a Linux Distro since the tablet runs on an Intel x64 soc? Any suggustions?
Tnx
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I don't know for sure, I'll do a little research..
But if it is possible, I'm sure that it would be quite difficult. :laugh:
I already did some research on Google and other sites. Couldn't find anything usefull. I think the problem lays on having no bios/uefi on the board instead there is Droidboot Provision OS. If there was a bios/uefi it would have been a piece of cake.But any thoughts are helpfull. Thanks.
Ah, I see.
Well, I better resign from this thread now before I cause any damage, as I am an avid Windows user and and avid Android user, but I don't have any experience with attempting to change a device's operating system.
Farewell, good sir.
thanks for your contribution.
Farewell.
Recently I read you can't replace android with Windows os on a phone because it's specifically made for Android
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Hi All, This is probably a really stupid question, but i've been searching trying to find the answer, is it possible to install windows 7 or any other OS on this or any other android tablet?
Thanks in advance for any help,
AZ
AbsoluteZero said:
Hi All, This is probably a really stupid question, but i've been searching trying to find the answer, is it possible to install windows 7 or any other OS on this or any other android tablet?
Thanks in advance for any help,
AZ
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The yet to come out Viewsonic "Viewpad" tablet is to be dual boot Win7 or android...although differentprocessor. Hopefully they will do better than the g tablet with their android os overlay.
Should I stop thinking of all these tablets like it's a laptop, that the OS can be changed from Android, to Windows, to Linux? or is it basically the same as a normal PC?
Thanks Again
Would forget about windows but (a version of) Linux should be doable. Possibly CE6 but I don't think anyone is doing anything with it.
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/downloads
This is not an x86/x64 CPU so the OS has to support Tegra specifically.
These tablets have a different processor in them, so, no, they cannot run any Window OS except Microsoft's mobile OS, a.k.a. Windows Mobile, a.k.a. Windows CE, etc. These tablets are more akin to mobile phones than general purpose desktop/laptop computers.
Hello , XDA-developers and other members.
I'm new here, I registred because I have some questions about Android OS.
I have Nokia N95 phone, and I want to port Android to that phone. I searched a lot , but one said fake, one said that can do , I don't know what to think.
So my question is can I port Android to Nokia N95 ?
My phone (N95) can run Android , but I don't found way to do it.
Is there way to do it ?
Thanks in advance, all xda-developers.
Trinty19.
i dont think it will be compatible
No it couldn't
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Not it can't
Trinty19 said:
Hello , XDA-developers and other members.
I'm new here, I registred because I have some questions about Android OS.
I have Nokia N95 phone, and I want to port Android to that phone. I searched a lot , but one said fake, one said that can do , I don't know what to think.
So my question is can I port Android to Nokia N95 ?
My phone (N95) can run Android , but I don't found way to do it.
Is there way to do it ?
Thanks in advance, all xda-developers.
Trinty19.
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No, you can't. The handset was specifically designed for Symbian. There are no compatible drivers or etc. I have heard of this b4, as my dad used to own an Nokia N95. I just think it's a clever UI demo cobbled together so he can get posts on youtube.
Offtopic: Or.. who knows, maybe he is a brilliant scientist that works for Nokia now and making millions )) We may never know.
IT IS POSSIBLE: CPU, GPU DRIVERS ARE COMPATIBLE, not like Spooky_Ghosty said. But if you want to port Android, you will need to compile Linux Kernel (you need a PC running Linux based OS), you will need a program that can boot Linux Kernel on Symbian (something like HAReT for booting Linux on Windows Mobile, but for Symbian here is no program like HAReT). It is very hard, but it is POSSIBLE. Why do you haven't bought Siemens in "old times"?
2004's phone "SIEMENS & HTC Blue Angel" can run Android easy;
2002's devices SIEMENS 600, 710, 718, 720 can run Android easy;
but 2007's Nokia - very hard to run Android on it.
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IT IS POSSIBLE: CPU, GPU DRIVERS ARE COMPATIBLE, not like Spooky_Ghosty said. But if you want to port Android, you will need to compile Linux Kernel (you need a PC running Linux based OS), you will need a program that can boot Linux Kernel on Symbian (something like HAReT for booting Linux on Windows Mobile, but for Symbian here is no program like HAReT). It is very hard, but it is POSSIBLE. Why do you haven't bought Siemens in "old times"?
2004's phone "SIEMENS & HTC Blue Angel" can run Android easy;
2002's devices SIEMENS 600, 710, 718, 720 can run Android easy;
but 2007's Nokia - very hard to run Android on it.
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well, i think this is the answer.
but why 2007's Nokia is very hard to run Android??
i think the new one is the better one
I am considering buying the Transformer TF700, but I am wondering if it is possible to root the tablet and install Windows 8 on it when W8 is available for purchase?
Regards, Sari
Unlikely, Win 8 requires an encrypted bootloader.
Installing Win8 as a 2nd OS, NO. But running linux as a second OS and Virtual machine windows on it, Yes. Just not sure how stable that would be, or how fluid. You can always wait and see as asus have announced a partnership with Microsoft for a duclboot android windows Pad...maybe, HOPEFULLY, the hardware will be close enough to our infinity for devs to port it over
Its possible. That locked down requirement is for OEMs, I doubt it'd be hardcoded into the OS since that'd be hard to detect or easy to spoof. Asus's WinRT tablets are Tegra 3 based, so depending on which variant they use it might be relatively simple to port.
Very unlikely. I couldn't spout the technicals for you, but it is a very closed down system, and MC certainly doesn't want any modding or porting in any way.
Assuming you mean Windows RT, then...well, I'm sure Microsoft is probably going to do everything they can to ensure that Windows RT doesn't run on anything other than approved devices.
Ah, that's disappointing :l Thanks for your replies!
I used to be very interested in Win 8 but now I am not sure I want it on a Tablet. I know eveybody is saying it is going to be great on tablets, but nobody really knows yet, and I have been an early adopter of other mobile OS products like Win Smartphones, that were big failures. The beauty of Android is it is more open source so its easy to create apps for it, so I am not sure Windows will ever get the kind of app libraries (Free or cheap) Android and IOS have. Looking at Microsoft's history, I am not sure they will excel in this market at this point.
Just my thoughts . .
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... Looking at Microsoft's history, I am not sure they will excel in this market at this point.
Just my thoughts . .
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This ^^ -- given the fact that I've owned several Windows Mobile devices that have hung somewhere in space as far as support and development went and that MS have crashed several of their purportedly groundbreaking devices in the past (the Zune and the Kin spring to mind in particular) doesn't really inspire me with any hope that the Surface and its successors will be anything to drool about, except maybe for 'paper specs'.
For the graphically inclined and those in search for a read, a search for "Microsoft failures" comes up with, amongst others:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise...osofts-Biggest-Failures-and-Successes-500262/
http://www.money.co.uk/misc/microsofts-biggest-flops-and-failures.htm
http://www.complex.com/tech/2009/05/a-history-of-microsofts-biggest-failures
Just for fun, those.
No way.... The largest software development company in the world has had failures? Who would ever have thought that?
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No way.... The largest software development company in the world has had failures? Who would ever have thought that?
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It's not that they had failures, smart boy -- it's their touting so much 'groundbreaking' stuff that wouldn't even float by itself if you threw it in a lake of polystyrene packaging chips.
Ugh, Win8 with its crappy touchy-feely interface. I am fully convinced that desktop and laptop systems are here to stay, whether for gaming or productivity, so I do not need an interface optimized for mobile touchscreen devices on my rather immobile main piece of trusted hardware.
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Its possible. That locked down requirement is for OEMs, I doubt it'd be hardcoded into the OS since that'd be hard to detect or easy to spoof. Asus's WinRT tablets are Tegra 3 based, so depending on which variant they use it might be relatively simple to port.
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I think we should wait for any publicly available Windows RT firmware for download. It Asus releases Tablet 600 - that would be even better for us.
I recall the first Hackintoshs (based on first Mac OS X 10.4/Tiger for x86) being run on Pentium 4 and AMD platforms. It required VM and very strong BIOS modifications (as Macs had EFI, at that time unavailable for PCs). Then there were some modified kos (kernel objects, i.e. modules) that enabled it running on PCs with stock BIOS. Later a vanilla kernel was compiled that enabled the system work without problems.
Considering Windows RT port, the last step would be most likely impossible as we don't have kernel source (AFAIK the latest Widows source available is that one of Win2000), but nothing prevents us from attempting to run the Windows RT-enabled device firmware on TF700 and trying to debug failures. However, this can take a long time.
I'm more concerned about running any Linux distro in dualboot with Android %)
What about the new ASUS tablet, tegra 3, windows RT. The same hardware, but different system and screen resolution.
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What about the new ASUS tablet, tegra 3, windows RT. The same hardware, but different system and screen resolution.
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Is anywhere its firmware?
The main issue would be the bootloader; the resolution in Windows is much easier to fix.
P.S. "I want NATIVE ubuntu on TF700!" - +1. I bought TF700 as a super long-lasting netbook =)
I have the Asus TF600. It has a lower screen Res and twice the ram of the TF700. WIndows RT requires activation just like the desktop version.
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What about the new ASUS tablet, tegra 3, windows RT. The same hardware, but different system and screen resolution.
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That's wonderful!
When did you buy it?
Have you found the firmware?
I only found this: http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&m=asus vivotab rt - there is only a manual.
Windows activation has never been a probem since its appearance in XP =) The bootloader should be more tricky.
tf700t 1gb ram win8 problem
Even if someone manages to port Win8 over to the tf700, do you think they will curb the use of it by shutting it down from the windows market side?? Especially with RT you wind up at the complete mercy of Microsoft when it comes to applying any apps to the device. I'd be interested in seeing if it could be done as long as there is no hang up on the application side of the equation. Won't do me much good to have a working os with no apps to run on it.
Cheers
hi there the possibilities for our device is endless it is definitely possible for our to dual boot windows xp and android with our device maybe we could make it run on our armv7 processor if someone is able to do this project i can help
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hi there the possibilities for our device is endless it is definitely possible for our to dual boot windows xp and android with our device maybe we could make it run on our armv7 processor if someone is able to do this project i can help
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Windows XP ? Impossible not going to happen, not worth the effort.
Windows 8 RT, Possible, not worth the effort..
Recommendation: If you need or really want to have both, buy a Lenovo or Dell WIndows 8.1 tablet for less than $200 and you will be much happier.
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aaronjasper49 said:
hi there the possibilities for our device is endless it is definitely possible for our to dual boot windows xp and android with our device maybe we could make it run on our armv7 processor if someone is able to do this project i can help
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So you want to Dualboot Windows XP and Android ?
May I know which device you've ?
One thing is sure, YOU CANT DO THAT ON A TAB
Many members including myself got idea of running Windows 8 x86 on Tab 3 10.1 since it have a 32Bits kernel, but nothing happened.
Never
I think this will never happen, because of mainly two things:
1. No drivers available, you would have to write them all cause there are no preconfigured ones.
2. Windows is closed source.
You would need to be a Dev at Samsung, otherwise you will never have an insight into the specific hardware of those devices. Samsung but also Intel (in case of the 10.1) don't publish most of their documents.
No.
hey,
if you want to really understand what windows xp will be like run it through an emulator.
now, don't get me wrong, i loved windows xp, hated everything before it hated everything after it.
apple is bull****.
Linux is beautiful.
Android is commerce riddled slop and needs to die a horrible flamey cinematic death accompanied by bad lighting
and a third rate orchestra trying to play anything while being fed into the woodchipper of your choice.
anyway the point outside of my ranting is, maybe yes but seriously no.
as soon as i figure out how to get a decent lightweight linux distro running on this thing then i might be able to
get wine going. better to get a windows-able tablet pc and dual-boot android x86.
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I really like the hardware offering from Asus on the ZenPad S 8.0.
I can't find any good windows 10 tablets, does anyone know if you can install windows 10 on a ZenPad?
Thanks!
I'm wondering the same thing.
i think you need the replace the bios or something so that the tablet can boot from a usb
+1 for interest, on the concept anyway. If Windows can boot, Linux shouldn't be much harder (might even be easier), and I'd be far more interested in that.
In order to use Windows on this tablet, you'd either have to hope it has drivers built-in for whichever architecture it boots in (good luck if it boots 32-bit UEFI like some Intel devices do), or hope there's drivers available that would be compatible. Linux has a much better shot at working on this tablet as-is.
Can't quite understand why this tablet out-the-box is only locked to Android though... Could have easily offered a dual-boot scenario, or even outright just allowed any x86-compliant OS to be installed. But having just Android on this tablet is overkill in my opinion.
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+1 for interest, on the concept anyway. If Windows can boot, Linux shouldn't be much harder (might even be easier), and I'd be far more interested in that.
In order to use Windows on this tablet, you'd either have to hope it has drivers built-in for whichever architecture it boots in (good luck if it boots 32-bit UEFI like some Intel devices do), or hope there's drivers available that would be compatible. Linux has a much better shot at working on this tablet as-is.
Can't quite understand why this tablet out-the-box is only locked to Android though... Could have easily offered a dual-boot scenario, or even outright just allowed any x86-compliant OS to be installed. But having just Android on this tablet is overkill in my opinion.
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Because they would have to charge more if it was native compatible with windows, for the windows licensing.
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Because they would have to charge more if it was native compatible with windows, for the windows licensing.
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Actually not, since Windows licencing is no longer paid for devices under 10 inches.
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Because they would have to charge more if it was native compatible with windows, for the windows licensing.
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You don't include Windows, you just simply make it have a generic x86_64-compliant legacy or UEFI bootloader.
Windows licensing doesn't apply to a device that doesn't come with Windows considering the device doesn't ship with Windows (or at least I would think).
I would still love to see a rom of windows 10 i could load. At the moment, I just use splashtop if i really need windows functionality on my tablet, and since I work from home, it's not too bad, lan Splashtop is pretty good, especially with a good router.
I'm interested in this tablet since it's on sale right now, but I don't have the money. Should I ever get one I'd totally install Arch Linux or something. If anyone has one of these and attempts this, please start a dev thread or something to document the project.
Just so we're clear, this is the tablet we're all hoping to install Windows 10/Linux onto, right? http://bit.ly/1kaRhIZ
I just to bump this again, the z580c has been out for over a year now, hoping someone has a custom or aftermarket ROM for this thing. Links will be appreciated!
Ryuhouji said:
I just to bump this again, the z580c has been out for over a year now, hoping someone has a custom or aftermarket ROM for this thing. Links will be appreciated!
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Or at least some way to change to Windows. This is a great tablet, but it comes with the wrong OS.
Bootloader is still locked. Until that's changed, no alternative OS.