I'm checking the data usage on my Moto G since updating to Android 4.4.4, and I'm surprised at the amount of background mobile data usage while doing nothing. The two big background data users are Android OS and Google [Play] Services (the name changes back and forth). Android OS uses about 20 Kbytes/hr, but with occasional bursts of 200 Kbytes or more in a short time. I've read that it can shoot up to hundreds of Mbytes if Android is allowed to do OS updates over the air, but mine is up to date as far as I know. Google Services uses about 10 Kbytes/hr when sync is disabled for all components for all Google accounts, but turn on any one of them (like Gmail or Calendar) and it jumps to 70 Kbytes/hr even though there are no changes to sync. Multiply by the number of Google accounts on the phone. I see a lot of questions about this, but no real answers. Some people claim much lower data usage with other phones and Android versions, but don't seem to have any different settings. Is there anything special about Android 4.4.4 on the Moto G? Has anyone found a way to see what's going on inside the background data usage by Android OS and Google Services?
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I'm checking the data usage on my Moto G since updating to Android 4.4.4, and I'm surprised at the amount of background mobile data usage while doing nothing. The two big background data users are Android OS and Google [Play] Services (the name changes back and forth). Android OS uses about 20 Kbytes/hr, but with occasional bursts of 200 Kbytes or more in a short time. I've read that it can shoot up to hundreds of Mbytes if Android is allowed to do OS updates over the air, but mine is up to date as far as I know. Google Services uses about 10 Kbytes/hr when sync is disabled for all components for all Google accounts, but turn on any one of them (like Gmail or Calendar) and it jumps to 70 Kbytes/hr even though there are no changes to sync. Multiply by the number of Google accounts on the phone. I see a lot of questions about this, but no real answers. Some people claim much lower data usage with other phones and Android versions, but don't seem to have any different settings. Is there anything special about Android 4.4.4 on the Moto G? Has anyone found a way to see what's going on inside the background data usage by Android OS and Google Services?
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Seems the culprit is the notification system, including the checking for updates. Most of the services are internet based because they're stored on Google servers, that's why the data consumpion is so high for those processes.
I've got into the habit of turning off mobile data any time I don't need to use it. It can be a bit annoying but there's just no way of knowing if data is being used up while I'm unaware so it's the best way of avoiding surprises.
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I've got a very annoying data problem here: Sony Xperia S, Android 2.3.7 (Build .75), 500MB dataplan and the OS takes 300 of that! I already took some precautions like turning of the backup, I've logged out of Facebook and removed my Hotmail app. And I installed JuiceDefender Plus which handles my connections, but no results whatsoever: Android OS still uses 5-10MB/day...
Any help would be very, very welcome.
An application like Juice Defender won't help you lower data plan usage because its first aim is to prevent battery depletion while meeting certain conditions (like screen turned off, for example.)
This means that when you turn on the screen and Juice Defender restores mobile data, Android does broadcast a message (android.net.conn.CONNECTIVITY_CHANGE) to all registered listeners, that let them know when they can use the network again.
As a example, think of an email client that will access its configured POP/IMAP servers when it can. No matter how long the screen was off (and thus mobile data disabled by Juice Defender,) it will always download the same amount of data when your device is put back on line (luckily for you I would say in the case of an email client because if it were not the case, that would mean you're losing mails...)
When it comes to data accounting, Android simplifies things a bit too much, and you end with not very insightful labels like "Android OS." This may indicate that the Google apps framework (a standard package shared among different applications) is the one using your data plan.
I wrote an app that accounts data used by process rather than package, and let you know the associated packages with each process and also showing real-time network usage graphics along with many other real-time data to workaround those kind of limitations (as I don't want to make publicity -- even if it's free -- PM me if you're interested and I'll point you to it.)
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I've got a very annoying data problem here: Sony Xperia S, Android 2.3.7 (Build .75), 500MB dataplan and the OS takes 300 of that! I already took some precautions like turning of the backup, I've logged out of Facebook and removed my Hotmail app. And I installed JuiceDefender Plus which handles my connections, but no results whatsoever: Android OS still uses 5-10MB/day...
Any help would be very, very welcome.
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I faced the same problem, issue was somewhat with auto backup of data, sync of app data & people details in google account,
BUT the main culprit in my case was uTorrent application.
Even though there was no torrent added to it, i didn't even opened it,
it was using 1GB data daily on WiFi and in data usage it was coming under Android OS usage. I uninstalled it, everything went back to normal.
So try to look for such apps which eat up your data in background, it may not be an error of android OS as such.
Hope this helps, Press THANKS if it did help you
Enjoy
Hey guys,
I've been keeping an eye on a task manager in Android lately, and here's why. A bunch of mainstream apps seem to be running long running services that are constantly chugging away at something in the background. These are the kinds of apps that should do fine without any such service. In fact, almost all my apps run a service, but that's because they need to in order to perform a function the user expects to be completed (for example keeping the screen on). The apps I'm talking about are apps like Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Instagram, Google Play Services (I'm aware other apps can call on this as well). I would understand if they did something once in a while but sometimes they just won't go away, constantly running the CPU for who knows what (they aren't idle). This is surely impacting battery life on my rapidly aging Nexus 5. Apart from using something like Greenify to in-effect kill the processes from coming back, are there any other solutions? If you do that you stop getting notifications, the app loses it's place when you do finally go back into it, etc.
Why are such mainstream apps being designed with such bad management? I think it's because that's clearly not a priority for them, user engagement is, but I'm curious what you think.
Hello fellas,
as the title says, i'm enabling the data saver feature for ALL the apps (both installed and system apps) with no exception .. yet, every now and then the screen lock data usage notification mentions that an amount of mobile data has been used by some apps (facebook, whatsapp, system apps ..)
is this a common bug on the honor 6x/emui5 or is there something else i'm missing here ??
My model number : BLN-L21
Build number : BLN-L21C432B365
Emui version : 5.0.1
Hi, i keep data saver always on for habit and i didn't noticed a traffic of mobile data while it is activated. But i know also that those damned social apps are a true pain for phones. I don't have neither one so i can't confirm that, but maybe someone else who has Facebook or others could provide a feedback about. Have you took in consideration the idea of using socials via web browser? When i still had my Facebook account 2 years ago, i used to do everything by my browser because in this way, i was able to avoid useless and heavyweight, crappy client apps
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Hi, i keep data saver always on for habit and i didn't noticed a traffic of mobile data while it is activated. But i know also that those damned social apps are a true pain for phones. I don't have neither one so i can't confirm that, but maybe someone else who has Facebook or others could provide a feedback about. Have you took in consideration the idea of using socials via web browser? When i still had my Facebook account 2 years ago, i used to do everything by my browser because in this way, i was able to avoid useless and heavyweight, crappy client apps
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Hi and thank you for your feedback,
Well the thing is, not only social media apps that consume background data but many other apps including games and system apps, maybe not with same amount but they still do, and what mostly concerned about is how come such a bug can even occur in our phone ..
if you are using honor 6x with thae latest emui i suggest you turn on the "locked screen data usage reminder" from (settings -» mobile data -» then the settings icon up right) and see if you are gonna get leaked data ..
Then we can know for sure from where the problem is coming from
I'm looking forward to reading your feedback ..
I tested by disabling or restricting the same and still saw the traffic as bytes on status bar.
But when data turned off, didn't see any bytes consumed. Evem when opened Facebook, it shows 34-35KB data transfer rate but not updated or refreshed means data is not consume and it was only trying to send the data (upload speed) but none received (download data).
Long story short, I installed Net Monitor (from Play store) to check data usage on my Moto E4 Plus (Verizon), though the question below is probably not limited to this particular device.
I was surprised to see some of the apps that were sending data somewhere even when they are disabled. For example,
1, Gboard (by Google), this app has been disabled in Settings since the beginning. Why is it still sending data? Worst nightmare is an app collecting keyboard entry log and upload it to where??? Why???
2, Some Apps, such as below, I have disabled their background data usage, but they still show up in Net Monitor.
Astro File Manager (an old version that I love to use),
ML Manager,
Photos (by Google)
Youtube
I am sure I did not use these apps during the time that Net Monitor was running as I was testing the whole concept of Net Monitor.
I can understand some communication apps such as Gmail that uses data because I did not block their background data usage.
Some of the apps in the screenshot are presumably system apps though I am a bit suspicious. Knowing recent cases with One Plus and Blu, and Elliot Anderson:
https://www.androidpit.com/elliot-fs0c131y-alderson-interview
I just wish some experts can help explain or provide some insights, thank you in advance,
BTW, can someone recommend clean Open Source apps that do not abuse permissions and do not send data secretly behind the users? I got a few, but need more. My app sources:
https://www.secuso.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/en/secuso/research/results/privacy-friendly-apps/
https://simplemobiletools.github.io/
https://guardianproject.info/apps/
Hi, I've been with Google play Services since yesterday, draining my battery, they are always connected in the background.
I have deleted all the data, I have deleted the app updates but it is still the same.
Does anyone know what it is due to? any solution? format the phone?
Thank you.
Disable it when not needed.
Google Background Transport, Playstore and Gmail are dependencies of it. Even when behaving it's a power parasite.
If you factory reset the issue will likely return... don't attempt to fix it like that!
Clear system cache, use Device Care to clean storage, clear Google GMS data, disable Google Framework if present and Backup Transport*. Turn off Google Firebase.
You can also try deleting then recreating your Google account but like a factory reset don't expect miracles if you do... just wasted time.
*if consuming excess battery with screen off Backup Transport is a likely suspect.
I have formatted the mobile and it is correct until I install a game from Google play where the following message appears "google play services will install additional components 3.6 megabytes that are necessary to use this application"
If you install any game that has that warning, it starts to drain the battery and get quite hot.
Any solution?
Until 3 days ago this did not happen to me, I updated my Wacth 4 classic and bought Streets of rage 4 from google play the problems started.
thank you
elevation_ph said:
I have formatted the mobile and it is correct until I install a game from Google play where the following message appears "google play services will install additional components 3.6 megabytes that are necessary to use this application"
If you install any game that has that warning, it starts to drain the battery and get quite hot.
Any solution?
Until 3 days ago this did not happen to me, I updated my Wacth 4 classic and bought Streets of rage 4 from google play the problems started.
thank you
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Keep the junkware off the device.
Update/upgrade at your own peril.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie, hasn't been updated in 2.5 years, it's current load will be 2 yo this June with minimal maintenance. It's still snappy fast and stable. Security simply isn't an issue. What's not to like?
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Keep the junkware off the device.
Update/upgrade at your own peril.
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What mean? I don, t update never? Only install apps from google play and i have a stock firmware from OTA of Samsung
elevation_ph said:
What mean? I don, t update never? Only install apps from google play and i have a stock firmware from OTA of Samsung
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Fair enough, good!
I have one game install and it's internet access is always firewall blocked. Just because it's on Playstore doesn't mean it's "safe".
Any Google services in general tend to be a pain and battery hogs. I normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed, that tones Google down a lot. Gmail, Playstore and Backup Transport are some of it's dependencies.
Firewall blocking Playstore after activating bought Playstore apps and also firewall blocking those apps themselves cuts down the constant Playstore lincense checks.
Karma Firewall uses very little battery however it's valuable logging feature is not functional on Android 10 and above. However it will still block apps, services and list those present. Lost is the time stamp of the app's last internet connection except on Android 9 and lower... this is a very useful feature.
For stock Androids other firewalls are available but many use a lot of battery. Not sure of a better alternative with low battery usage on Android 10 and higher. It may exist...
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Fair enough, good!
I have one game install and it's internet access is always firewall blocked. Just because it's on Playstore doesn't mean it's "safe".
Any Google services in general tend to be a pain and battery hogs. I normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed, that tones Google down a lot. Gmail, Playstore and Backup Transport are some of it's dependencies.
Firewall blocking Playstore after activating bought Playstore apps and also firewall blocking those apps themselves cuts down the constant Playstore lincense checks.
Karma Firewall uses very little battery however it's valuable logging feature is not functional on Android 10 and above. However it will still block apps, services and list those present. Lost is the time stamp of the app's last internet connection except on Android 9 and lower... this is a very useful feature.
For stock Androids other firewalls are available but many use a lot of battery. Not sure of a better alternative with low battery usage on Android 10 and higher. It may exist...
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I have Android 12 on my Note 20 Ultra.
What firewall recomended?
Thanks
elevation_ph said:
I have Android 12 on my Note 20 Ultra.
What firewall recomended?
Thanks
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I don't know. Let me know if you find a good one.
I need one for my other N10+ running on Android 10...