[Q] Moto G Stuck on Boot - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi. I've got the Moto G and i decided to unlock the bootloader and then download CWM. That all worked fine but now when i switch my phone on, it gets stuck on the 'Motorola by Google' Logo. It seems like its frozen on there but the power button is able to function, not the volume buttons though. Ive tried RSD Lite but it's not finding my device. I'm 14 so im not very good using a terminal but any guidance would be fine. I've also tried flashing the Paranoid 4.4.4 zip, The Stock Firmware zips and even Gapps but they all come up with the same message,
finding update package
opening update package
verifying update package
Installation Aborted.
Please could any one help me out and explain what went wrong with the phone? THANKS!

How?
burrt said:
You could flash the factory image by Motorola through ADB so it resets everything, I'm sure you can find the link somewhere in the forums (I'm using the 4G version so my method may be different slightly). I found rooting my phone very intuitive from the guides, only problem I had was making sure I had administrative privileges and access in the command window directory.
If I remember correctly, this will probably remove CWM and if you insist on a third party recovery, give TWRP, the problem could be related to CWM.
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Could you tell me exactly what to do? i dont have much experience but ive downloaded the 4.3 and 4.4.2 Retail zips, extracted them and then opened CMD and tried things such as 'fastboot flash .....zip or image'. Still doesnt work and sometimes i get 'hab' errors and 'image is too large'.

Thanks
burrt said:
I'm not too sure about your problems, were you on Stock 4.4.4 running fine? I'm going to assume you are using the Moto G 3G version.
Although I haven't personally tried this guide myself, from what I see, it is reliable:
[GUIDE] Moto G - Restore stock firmware
Just a helpful tip when you open a terminal (took me a while to figure out when I first rooted my phone), located to the folder where they wan't the terminal and hold Shift + Right Click. This will give you an option "Open command window here", look carefully. Once again, make sure you are downloading the correct files for your device and read the steps carefully, you can minimise a lot of headaches and realise some shortcuts. It is also an 'old' guide so be sure to verify links etc.
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Thanks so much for helping but i've done that, probably over 5 times. I am on Moto G 4.4.4 and whenever i flash stuff it gives 'hab' warnings and 'invalid piv' and 'image size too big'

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Is my device bricked?

Hello, guys!
Basically, my rooted device apparently got a virus (not sure), so I did a factory reset. Now I can't get past the setup wizard because it stops unexpectedly. I tried using a custom ROM (I'm on 2.3), and it fails the signature verification.
So, the only approach for me to take seems to be installing CWM or ROM manager or anything else directly into my phone via my PC. Don't know how to do that, though. I can't access or do anything in my phone, so whatever needs to be done needs to be done via my PC, probably.
I'm using an Alcatel One Touch 985.
Thanks in advance!
Note: Installing a fresh copy of the setup wizard would be the easiest fix of all, or even the stock Android ROM. Once I get my phone working in its basic form, everything else becomes much easier to do.
If your phone still boots in either recovery or download mode, then its not bricked
If you have a custom recovery, you can flash your custom rom. If you don't, you can flash a stock ROM
Hope this helps
Basically, my rooted device apparently got a virus (not sure), so I did a factory reset. Now I can't get past the setup wizard because it stops unexpectedly. I tried using a custom ROM (I'm on 2.3), and it fails the signature verification.
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what that is its most likely the rom you downloaded is for a different phone, are you sure it was your phone specificly? check model no. if not theres a option in CWM to uncheck signature verification and it will sorta force flash what you wanted to flash.
If your phone still boots in either recovery or download mode, then its not bricked
If you have a custom recovery, you can flash your custom rom. If you don't, you can flash a stock ROM
Hope this helps
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Read the Question before posting stupid Answers, this shows that you didnt even read it...
I can still enter recovery mode, yes.
This all happened while using the ROM the phone came with.
I've tried with what seems to be the only compatible ROM for my phone, and also with other 2.3 ROMs. The problem regarding the ROM issue seems to be that the phone's boot loader isn't unlocked.
I know CWM can fix the signature problem, but how do I get it into the phone in the first place? That's the real issue.
Edit: I've tried unblocking the boot loader with the help of a tutorial online, but I believe I'm missing a step. Ideally this fix should be attempted after I know for sure there's no way to simply install an apk directly into the phone through my PC.
Klowdz said:
I can still enter recovery mode, yes.
This all happened while using the ROM the phone came with.
I've tried with what seems to be the only compatible ROM for my phone, and also with other 2.3 ROMs. The problem regarding the ROM issue seems to be that the phone's boot loader isn't unlocked.
I know CWM can fix the signature problem, but how do I get it into the phone in the first place? That's the real issue.
Edit: I've tried unblocking the boot loader with the help of a tutorial online, but I believe I'm missing a step. Ideally this fix should be attempted after I know for sure there's no way to simply install an apk directly into the phone through my PC.
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have you tired factory reseting it again? the setup wizard crash is really werid at a stock rom.
I have. Same result.
Perhaps I deleted some file needed for the wizard to function properly.
I don't mind flashing a new ROM into the phone, or do whatever else in order for it to work properly.
Klowdz said:
Hello, guys!
Basically, my rooted device apparently got a virus (not sure), so I did a factory reset. Now I can't get past the setup wizard because it stops unexpectedly. I tried using a custom ROM (I'm on 2.3), and it fails the signature verification.
So, the only approach for me to take seems to be installing CWM or ROM manager or anything else directly into my phone via my PC. Don't know how to do that, though. I can't access or do anything in my phone, so whatever needs to be done needs to be done via my PC, probably.
I'm using an Alcatel One Touch 985.
Thanks in advance!
Note: Installing a fresh copy of the setup wizard would be the easiest fix of all, or even the stock Android ROM. Once I get my phone working in its basic form, everything else becomes much easier to do.
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Try installing the ROM again, doing the correct wipe. After installing the ROM give the fix permission option.
In what novel way should I do that? I've tried the regular way, as mentioned above, and nothing.
Klowdz said:
In what novel way should I do that? I've tried the regular way, as mentioned above, and nothing.
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If phone boots, is rooted and setup wizard stops just remove setup wizard app via adb.
Code:
adb shell rm /system/app/<name-of-setup-wizard-app>.apk
Cheers,
AJ
How do I do that? I have the SDK and everything installed, but that's it.
Klowdz said:
How do I do that? I have the SDK and everything installed, but that's it.
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Following steps are for Windows PC
U need to find a file called adb in the folder of SDK
I use an older version of SDK and it's in folder named 'platform-tools'
Open the folder which contains this file
Then u need to open command prompt window there
( Do that by holding shift while right clicking in the folder then select 'open command window here' option)
Then u can type the following code
in the window.
Abhinav2 said:
adb shell rm /system/app/<name of setup wizard>.apk
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Sent from my GT-I9000
It says it's a read-only file system.
Maybe It only works if your phone is rooted
If u r rooted U can try adding su command before it
su adb shell rm /system/app/<name of setup wizard>.apk
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Sent from my GT-I9000
"Su" isn't recognized, but I clearly have it since whenever I try to access adb shell it asks me for permission (not for this task, but for another).
Wouldn't it be simpler to just install the setup wizard again? The problem is where to find that .apk.

[Q] "Installation aborted" with 4.4.4 OTA and CWM

I have a rooted Moto G with CWM Recovery and by stupidity installed the 4.4.4 OTA.
CWM aborts the installation, the phone reboots and unfortunately after the ROM is booted it automatically reboots to once more try and install the OTA.
So what are my options now? When a similar thing happened on my Nexus 7, I just flashed the factory image and all was fine. But I'm not sure what image to use for the Moto G. Is there even an official flashable image? If not, which is closest to stock?
Or is it possible to prevent the phone from automatically rebooting? I can access it with adb and have 10-20 seconds after the boot where I could open some apps.
bur2000 said:
I have a rooted Moto G with CWM Recovery and by stupidity installed the 4.4.4 OTA.
CWM aborts the installation, the phone reboots and unfortunately after the ROM is booted it automatically reboots to once more try and install the OTA.
So what are my options now? When a similar thing happened on my Nexus 7, I just flashed the factory image and all was fine. But I'm not sure what image to use for the Moto G. Is there even an official flashable image? If not, which is closest to stock?
Or is it possible to prevent the phone from automatically rebooting? I can access it with adb and have 10-20 seconds after the boot where I could open some apps.
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You can find all the stock firmware images here:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14
Flash either with RDS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2637338) or fastboot (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219)
Thanks, there's no 4.4.4 for O2 Germany though. Do I need the right carrier/country? Otherwise I'll just go with 4.4.2
I also found this ROM (it's 4.4.4 despire thread titel). Is there any harm in trying it? I did a backup of the current half-broken system.
bur2000 said:
Thanks, there's no 4.4.4 for O2 Germany though. Do I need the right carrier/country? Otherwise I'll just go with 4.4.2
I also found this ROM (it's 4.4.4 despire thread titel). Is there any harm in trying it? I did a backup of the current half-broken system.
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You can flash any firmware you want, except the ones for dual sim version (but if you want to be totally safe flash the retail de image). 4.4.4 images aren't available currently, you have simply to restore the stock 4.4.2, flash the stock recovery and take the OTA update.
The ROM you linked is for Moto G dual sim variant (XT1033), flashing it will probably cause a soft brick.
I have the exact same problem.
1. Is there any way to get the phone out of this loop and get it usable again without a computer?
2. How can I flash the rom if the phone keeps doing this?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
fertchen said:
I have the exact same problem.
1. Is there any way to get the phone out of this loop and get it usable again without a computer?
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I would say no. Theoretically it might be possible to quickly do something before the phone reboots.
2. How can I flash the rom if the phone keeps doing this?
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Just follow the fastboot link in the post by Azarielz. WARNING: If you don't want to loose you user data don't do the mfastboot erase userdata step. For me that still removed the reboot loop while retaining my data and apps. I had some problems with the mobile connection though, only after I manually searched for available carriers and pressed "select automatically" it connected. After that no problems.
bur2000 said:
After that no problems.
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Thank you very much. I will try that when I get home next week. Will be a nice exercise in living without a phone for some time...
bur2000 said:
I would say no. Theoretically it might be possible to quickly do something before the phone reboots.
Just follow the fastboot link in the post by Azarielz. WARNING: If you don't want to loose you user data don't do the mfastboot erase userdata step. For me that still removed the reboot loop while retaining my data and apps. I had some problems with the mobile connection though, only after I manually searched for available carriers and pressed "select automatically" it connected. After that no problems.
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Just did the same mistake with unlocked & rooted XT1032. I use TWRP and ended up there after every reboot. What I did is use the File Manager under "Advanced" to delete the .zip under /cache. Alternatively you could just wipe cache/ dalvik cache and the update zip should be gone, phone should reboot normally and after app optimization (if you wiped dalvik cache) everything should be back to normal. The first few seconds I got an error when checking for an update, but it went away after a minute.
Not sure if I should go through the trouble of updating to 4.4.4 or wait for Android L that's supposedly coming to the Moto G and X...
I was in the same situation, with bootloader active from cmd:
mfastboot erase cache
or whatever you use
Any improvement?
Hello everyone,
I had the same problem and had to restore a backup.
But can anyone tell us why this happens? Is Google aware of this and is a fix on the way?
I've seen that the update would fix the annoying incompatibility problem with the class 10 SDCards so I'd like to install this update.
I have seen that some of the improvements would also be :
- coloured tiles in the phone dialer
- ability to pause when you record a video
But I can already do that with my phone right now (I'm in 4.4.3 on a Moto G 4G), is this normal ?
Thank you.
suiller said:
I was in the same situation, with bootloader active from cmd:
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Thank you very much, suiller. This:
fastboot erase cache
did it for me.
gnayug said:
Not sure if I should go through the trouble of updating to 4.4.4 or wait for Android L that's supposedly coming to the Moto G and X...
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What would be the easiest/most foolproof way to apply an OTA update when the Moto G is rooted?
fertchen said:
What would be the easiest/most foolproof way to apply an OTA update when the Moto G is rooted?
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That's what I want to know as well. XDA has all these devs and freaks and advanced tutorials but nothing at all for the most simple and popular issues for the average user such as applying an OTA with a rooted device. Apparently it's supposed to work with Phil's Flash Recovery, well it didn't, it gave me the same error message that CWM gave me. Or you're supposed to use "stock recovery", but nobody tells you how to get that in the first place.
...Help?
gnayug said:
That's what I want to know as well. XDA has all these devs and freaks and advanced tutorials but nothing at all for the most simple and popular issues for the average user such as applying an OTA with a rooted device. Apparently it's supposed to work with Phil's Flash Recovery, well it didn't, it gave me the same error message that CWM gave me.
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My guess is that there are just too many versions of phones out there and too many different prerequisites (differences in how the phone was rooted, which apps might have been de-installed, which rom/recovery installed etc) that it is extremely hard and laborious to provide a truly foolproof way. That might be different if there was one standardized manual/tutorial on "Hot to root foolproof and OTA proof for the future" and everyone would follow that precisely.
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Or you're supposed to use "stock recovery", but nobody tells you how to get that in the first place.
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There is a page that lists all the available stock Moto G Roms in different versions. It would be great if there was such a page for the recovery as well.
If there was a person that decided to take care of all these issues for the Moto G on this forum, he or she could maintain a page with direct links to all the tools, roms and recoveries as well as one general (foolproof) and possibly a handful of alternate ways and fixes.
That is a lot of work, particularly dealing with people who are not willing to read more than one sentence in order to get what they want. And certainly it must be frustrating for a "freak" or dev to encounter us newbies on a daily basis. A 101/primer on what boot/recovery/rom etc is would be helpful - and it does even exist in the wiki. It's that many of us don't find it. That could be changed by a very well thought-out and structured sticky post that provides all the necessary links and knowledge but not too much so that a beginner is frightened by 10 pages of instructions.
But I am certain that a person would be willing to do that if this forum allows it (which I assume is the case). Maybe this person has not been identified yet. Or maybe we have just missed it. I know I will not be this person simply because it would take me a lot of time to gather the necessary knowledge for such a position and right now I have other priorities and I usually use my phone once every 10 days or so.
I am aware that as a user I am not entitled to anyone providing this service. At the same time I am pretty sure that there is someone, maybe even within this great community, who would be willing to do it.
By the way, here is how I ultimately fixed the rooted-Moto G-OTA-update-problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/help/how-to-update-rooted-moto-g-t2828857/post54528345
Thank you for the link and everything you wrote! I was actually thinking the same the last few days... If only I was qualified enough or had the time to gather and polish all the information. I realize I shouldn't have written "Freaks". They're hard-working, skilled individuals that provide us with all this amazing software for us to use free of charge. I just wish they'd put some effort into explaining and laying out the basics etc. for all the "newbs" they encounter each day, because what good do their stuff do when nobody knows how to use it? All those devs that put out kernels and ROMs and then make a thread with changelogs and download links WITHOUT actually saying what they contain and why anyone should use them - I'm looking at you.
I'll go try to get my Moto G to 4.4.4 without losing my stuff using your link now, thanks again!:good:

Rooted and bricked without a custom recovery.

rooted bricked boost mobile moto G. 4.4.4. i messed up my phone while editing "build.prob" with es root file i believe and when i was done editing i clicked on the folder looking icon on the top right corner which i thought was enter/save but itwas something else that rearranged the letters after it booted i only got bootloader unlocked warning screen and a plain black screen after and thats it however i can also get to the the fastboot menu. so any way can i get my phone back with maybe just using adb and fastboot. i just rooted my phone like a week ago so never got to play around with it so i have alot to catch up with on terms and research dont worry i'll look up what you tell me to do rather than keep on asking how how and how. well guys hope you can help me thank you.
XDA Visitor said:
rooted bricked boost mobile moto G. 4.4.4. i messed up my phone while editing "build.prob" with es root file i believe and when i was done editing i clicked on the folder looking icon on the top right corner which i thought was enter/save but itwas something else that rearranged the letters after it booted i only got bootloader unlocked warning screen and a plain black screen after and thats it however i can also get to the the fastboot menu. so any way can i get my phone back with maybe just using adb and fastboot. i just rooted my phone like a week ago so never got to play around with it so i have alot to catch up with on terms and research dont worry i'll look up what you tell me to do rather than keep on asking how how and how. well guys hope you can help me thank you.
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Hello, and thank you for using XDA Assist!
Quite possibly my easiest problem of the night.
Your bootloader is unlocked. So....flash custom recovery. One that can do adb as well (unless you Moto G also has an SD card slot, but if we are talking about the original 2013 model, then one won't be there).
Then, reboot into recovery. Make a backup. Pull the backup files to your PC (either by adb or MicroSD, if available). Extract the system backup file (is a tarball) in a Linux filesystem. Fix up your build.prop mistakes. Tar system back up, and bundle the backup as a second set to push back to your device. Restore that backup (need only be system partition). Profit.
Any further questions, can ask in the following thread (assuming you have the 2013/1st gen non-LTE version - otherwise reply here with variant details for further instructions):
> Moto G > Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting > [RC-FAQ] >> Frequently Asked Questions for Motorola Moto G [Updated : 2015/09/23]
Please note, you will need to register for an account in order to post there.
Hope this helps, and good luck!
joel.maxuel said:
Hello, and thank you for using XDA Assist!
Quite possibly my easiest problem of the night.
Your bootloader is unlocked. So....flash custom recovery. One that can do adb as well (unless you Moto G also has an SD card slot, but if we are talking about the original 2013 model, then one won't be there).
Then, reboot into recovery. Make a backup. Pull the backup files to your PC (either by adb or MicroSD, if available). Extract the system backup file (is a tarball) in a Linux filesystem. Fix up your build.prop mistakes. Tar system back up, and bundle the backup as a second set to push back to your device. Restore that backup (need only be system partition). Profit.
Any further questions, can ask in the following thread (assuming you have the 2013/1st gen non-LTE version - otherwise reply here with variant details for further instructions):
> Moto G > Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting > [RC-FAQ] >> Frequently Asked Questions for Motorola Moto G [Updated : 2015/09/23]
Please note, you will need to register for an account in order to post there.
Hope this helps, and good luck!
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im sorry man i shouldve updated and listed that i have usb debugging off -_- i was trying a stock fastboot method but ended up putting 4.3 or 4.4 instead without realizing so now its in a bootlooop still access to stock recovery tho. and so i was going to fastboot the 4.4.4 download from file factory but its down due to maintenance. so on to motorolla website i go and what ya know "cant unarchive". any ideas man? its a 45 dollar phone couldve easily replace it but something about leaving it as paper weight that will bug me forever haha plus lets not forget the satisfaction of solving the problem haha. and i have yet to read up on custom recovery which i will do if you believe it'll work. thanks for your reply man
jasj0410 said:
im sorry man i shouldve updated and listed that i have usb debugging off -_- i was trying a stock fastboot method but ended up putting 4.3 or 4.4 instead without realizing so now its in a bootlooop still access to stock recovery tho. and so i was going to fastboot the 4.4.4 download from file factory but its down due to maintenance. so on to motorolla website i go and what ya know "cant unarchive". any ideas man? its a 45 dollar phone couldve easily replace it but something about leaving it as paper weight that will bug me forever haha plus lets not forget the satisfaction of solving the problem haha. and i have yet to read up on custom recovery which i will do if you believe it'll work. thanks for your reply man
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No problem.
USB debugging being off is only a consequence if planning to ADB in from system. Recovery has it's own rules.
Not sure about the "cannot unarchive" message, but if you can get the stock ROM, that's a viable option as well.
joel.maxuel said:
No problem.
USB debugging being off is only a consequence if planning to ADB in from system. Recovery has it's own rules.
Not sure about the "cannot unarchive" message, but if you can get the stock ROM, that's a viable option as well.
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no luck with installing Stock Rom thru Custom Recovery im using twrp. suddenly my terminal wont let me fastboot the zip file because of
"unknown partition 'Rom.zip'
error: cannont determine image filename for 'Rom.zip'
and if it helps i tried using stock recovery with this method (installed. 4.4):
androidforumsDOTcom/threads/cdma-boostmobile-only-guide-on-returning-to-stocDOT.826108/
and adb works when im on custom recovery if that helps out
and i never got to do the back up build.prop method because i had already done the first stock recovery method which i feel mightve messed things up. thanks for your replies man it really means alot
jasj0410 said:
no luck with installing Stock Rom thru Custom Recovery im using twrp. suddenly my terminal wont let me fastboot the zip file because of
"unknown partition 'Rom.zip'
error: cannont determine image filename for 'Rom.zip'
and if it helps i tried using stock recovery with this method (installed. 4.4):
androidforumsDOTcom/threads/cdma-boostmobile-only-guide-on-returning-to-stocDOT.826108/
and adb works when im on custom recovery if that helps out
and i never got to do the back up build.prop method because i had already done the first stock recovery method which i feel mightve messed things up. thanks for your replies man it really means alot
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Hello,
Fastboot is unable to flash zips unfortunately. That's the recoveries job.
If you can find fastboot images of stock, you can flash back that way.
Especially at this point, I would urge you to take advantage of the help thread I mentioned earlier. They know more about your device (particularly what's available and what not) they I would.
Hope this helps!

Bootloop 2013 Moto G Boost Mobile XT1031 8GB

Hey guys!
To start, I want to say what an amazing place XDA is and how much information and knowledge you can get from here and how awesome the moderators are. I don't think I could ever find another amazing and/or helpful community such as those found here! Thanks to all who have helped me out with my Android issues!
Now to my issue and I apologize ahead of time if there is another thread (or related thread) found in the forum.
As the title states, I have a 2013 Motorola Moto G XT1031 Boost Mobile device. I had upgraded it to Lollipop 5.0.2 or 5.1 when it came out (I can't remember which one it was) and I had then decided to root it. I can say that I believe I was successful in rooting the device because I was able to install Supersu and use RootChecker to verify the install. Everything was going okay until i decided to research and eventually install a custom recovery and attempt to install a custom ROM. Well, let's just say that the recovery install was a bust...
In doing my research for a custom recovery, I found that TWRP had a custom recovery for my phone and apparently for my firmware via TWRP's app on the Play Store. So, I searched for my device in their in-app search for a custom recovery, downloaded it and installed it from the app. Now, my gut told me that this probably wouldn't work and that I should probably be installing a custom recovery via CLI. Nope. I didn't do this. Instead, like I said, I installed a custom recovery from the app itself. That screwed things up for me. I have no idea if it was the install, but my phone began to act incredibly strange. When in the TWRP recovery, my screen had this line that would continuously scroll from top to bottom. It wasn't a completely solid line, but it was transparent, almost like an empty thermometer glass stick was going down the screen. It was weird and not normal. I figured the phone's software was partially broken. It only did this in the TWRP recovery. Nowhere else did this happen. It was slightly annoying.
Later on I decided to install a custom ROM. Again, I did the necessary research to find out if there were any ROMs available for my phone (using XDA of course and others) and found that there were a few out there. So, I downloaded one (wish I could remember which one) and attempted to install it...keyword there. After attempting the install, my phone would not boot. Like at all. Dead. So back to the drawing board I went to try and reverse the damage. Using XDA (ironically) and a plethora of other sites, I tried to resurrect my phone and bring it back to life. After countless hours of trying and trying and trying and more and more research, I just gave up. The phone is dead. Great. $170 spent on a phone to break it a year later.
It's been roughly 4-5 months since I have attempted to redo the process and after another minor attempt, somehow I was able to remove the root completely, including the custom recovery and ROM. I don't know what the heck I did, but it worked....sort of. The phone is now stuck in a bootloop on the logo and sometimes the "bootloader has been unlocked" screen when try and factory reset the phone from the default recovery. When trying to reinstall the stock firmware, I read everywhere that I need the phone to have USB-debugging set and to have this and that. I have this and that installed on my PC, but obviously cannot enable USB-debugging which is needed for ADB and fastboot to recognize my device.
So, my question for anyone who would like to help me out is this: what are my options? Is the phone recoverable? Is there any way I can get ADB/fastboot to see my device and finally install the stock firmware on the phone? I have the proper drivers installed and ADB/fastboot are on my PC. Any help would be amazing, even if you have to tell me to junk it.
blckdragn22 said:
When trying to reinstall the stock firmware, I read everywhere that I need the phone to have USB-debugging set
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This is incorrect, where did you read that? To reinstall the stock firmware using fastboot, you must be able to boot to the bootloader menu only.
I heard this from a few websites actually, although I could never find a situational fix for my phone. I am trying to restore back to Lollipop without a custom recovery, because within the past hour I found out TWRP was never fully removed when I tried booting into recovery from the AP Fastboot menu when doing to power+vol down option. The TWRP logo shows for about 10 seconds and then the phone tries booting normally, showing the unlocked bootloader warning.
So, yes I can boot into the bootloader menu all day long with no problems. It's just an selection I make doesn't get me anywhere. My question I guess now is: how do I go about reinstalling stock firmware via the bootloader menu. I have Minimal ADB and Fastboot installed on my PC. If I need the full ADB, I can download that. And of course I'd need the firmware, too.
You can find stock firmware images in this thread, there's also a link to an installation guide there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/index-moto-g-falcon-factory-firmware-t3110795
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You can find stock firmware images in this thread, there's also a link to an installation guide there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/index-moto-g-falcon-factory-firmware-t3110795
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This thread had the firmware I was looking for thank you. I believe I have the flashing stock firmware process down, I hope. I'l refer to the guide if I need help. Thank you so much!
_that said:
You can find stock firmware images in this thread, there's also a link to an installation guide there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/index-moto-g-falcon-factory-firmware-t3110795
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I am trying to follow the steps listed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219&page=35 and for some reason I cannot run any of the commands pertaining to the sparsechunks. This is what I get:
Is there anything you could tell me about that?
Edit: I was able to figure what the issue was when trying to write the sparsechunks. I had to insert a "." after 'sparsechunk' because that is how the file is named in the folder. However, now I am getting a new error, but it takes place on the phone screen. Every time I attempt to write a sparsechunk, it will initiate the process of doing so, but on the phone I'll get what appears to be an error saying, "Image is too large" in pink lettering. Why does this happen? Each sparsechunk file is at least 4MB less than the max-sparse-size according to the ADB and my phone, which is set to 256MB. Is there any way to change that?
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However, now I am getting a new error, but it takes place on the phone screen. Every time I attempt to write a sparsechunk, it will initiate the process of doing so, but on the phone I'll get what appears to be an error saying, "Image is too large" in pink lettering. Why does this happen? Each sparsechunk file is at least 4MB less than the max-sparse-size according to the ADB and my phone, which is set to 256MB. Is there any way to change that?
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Check which sparsechunk files you have and make sure you flash all of them in ascending order. If it still fails, copy/paste the contents of your command prompt window (no screenshots please).
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Check which sparsechunk files you have and make sure you flash all of them in ascending order. If it still fails, copy/paste the contents of your command prompt window (no screenshots please).
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I will try that. There was a ...sparsechunks.0 as well apart from sparsechunks.1, sparsechunks.2 and sparsechunks.3. Shall I include that, too?
And adding the screenshot was an amateur mistake. My bad.
@_that this worked like a charm. Phone is 100% working ans usable now. Incredibly helpful. Thank you so much!

[GUIDE] [clark] How to root Pure/Style on Marshmallow or correct a bad root attempt

It seems no matter how much this topic gets discussed, people still use old methods and they either fail, or they break something like WiFi, Mobile Data, infinite bootloop, or getting stuck on the boot logo... THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN and it IS repairable, usually without reflashing the entire image. The problem comes from using an old method, outdated SuperSU, or incorrect method. This guide will help you correct most issues, or help you to flash root correctly the FIRST time.
I have written rooting guides for multiple Moto device, and I have owned many Moto devices as well, so I have some idea what I am saying and I have tested these methods extensively, they work.
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This guide covers ALL Moto X 2015 models that can be bootloader unlocked and have TWRP available, it doesn't matter if it is the XT1575 or XT1572, the method is identical (untested on Chinese XT1570, but it should work). In fact, this method will work on all 2015 and 2016 series Moto phones running Marshmallow, including the Moto E, X, G3, G4, and Z with the appropriate TWRP image.
Please read completely and make sure you understand each step and how to do it, if you don't get something search the thread or ask an open question, no offense, but do not PM me with a question because you think it is too stupid to ask in public (we all started as noobs), or because you want me to hold your hand and do it for you, I will politely tell you no and ask you to post in the thread.
If you are coming here because you followed an old guide where you used a special boot.img file and now you have no service (WiFi and/or mobile data) and you don't have a TWRP backup to restore first, well, the RIGHT way to fix it is to reflash the current stock firmware image and start over... why? Because the various "help" people give to have you flash the radio files that match the kernel (ie. boot image) that was patched for the old style root method, has now put you in a mismatched firmware environment and could potentially brick on the next OTA. If you are in this situation and don't know for to properly fix it... go to the FAQ section in post #3 below (WIP-incomplete).
If came are coming here to root the first time, or you just thought you could flash SuperSU and reboot and now stuck in either a bootloop or stuck on the boot logo... Your in luck, read on, because we can fix that in a jiffy!
tl;dr version for advanced users: Skip to "How to do it" section to root, or "Do the prep" section to fix a bad root.
I am writing this tutorial because there are still lots of failed root attempts using older "standard" methods that do not work on this device. I also do not like the "one click" root methods, because they can and do fail (KingoRoot will brick a Moto X P/S, regardless of what it's web page says), and when they do people have no idea how to fix it. The manual way is not difficult, and it teaches you how to work on, fix, and use your device on a level above that of the average smartphone user.
I will only cover the details of rooting, the prerequisites are covered elsewhere in detail and I will link to reliable sources for the information. Specifics of the prerequisites are outside of the scope of this tutorial, but are open for discussion in this thread.
Prerequisites:
1) Device must have an unlocked bootloader. See Moto - Unlocking the Bootloader for more info.
NOTE: Performing this prerequisite will give you all the tools (fastboot) and drivers needed to continue, and wipe your device, meaning erase all your information and programs. Make sure to backup any important data first. This step will also permanently void your warranty once an unlock code has been issued by Moto, it doesn't matter if you even use it, your warranty is done.
2) You need to have TWRP installed or one-time booted via fastboot. CWM and other recoveries will NOT work at this time. See the official TWRP pages for clark here. I will NOT teach you how to use TWRP in this thread, if you are going to root you need to understand that your self, but if you get in a real bind I may knudge you in the right direction. I will tell you that there are two modes, flashed or booted, the later is much better if you plan to take an OTA later as long as you don't do something stupid like flash Xposed.
3) You need a copy of the latest STABLE SuperSU ZIP from Chainfire's site on the internal storage or SD card of your device, you can always fine the latest stable version here: https://download.chainfire.eu/supersu/ As of this posting update UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.82-20170528234214.zip (version 2.82) is the current stable version and it has been tested and verified to work.
NOTE: Unless otherwise stated, do not use a beta version for rooting Moto devices. SuperSU versions with even numbers are stable versions, while odd numbered versions are beta editions.
4) Reboot and start TWRP recovery, the method you use to do this doesn't matter (boot or flash).
5) Backup your device with TWRP to your SD card, even if you just unlocked and the phone is as blank as a printed page from a 1988 HP DeskJet printer with it's original cartridges still installed, backup... You will always have a good point to return to if the worst happens.
Do the prep:
Note that the hidden Do the prep section is ONLY for repairing a bad flash, SuperSU has been updated and as of version 2.79 the hidden section should no longer be needed for general purpose root on a working device, you just flash SuperSU. If you flashed an older version and are bootlooped, perform this section and continue.
Now, the procedure is the same whether you are trying to root the first time, or you did it the old way just flashing SuperSU and are now not able to boot...
In TWRP, when you have your backups and are ready to root, first go to Advanced and open the Terminal, in the terminal type this EXACTLY as shown:
Code:
echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu
Now press ENTER (there is no confirmation returned). You can verify this worked correctly by entering 'cat /data/.supersu' in the terminal and see if it returns "SYSTEMLESS=true", if not, you did it wrong, try the echo command again. Now press exit/back and press the HOME key.
After you have successfully entered the command in the TWRP Terminal you may continue
How to do it:
Go to Install and select the SuperSU zip file you downloaded from Prerequisite #3 and swipe to flash it and reboot. No need to clear caches or anything else but you are welcome to if you wish. You can install SuperSU updates normally through the app going forward (as of this posting).
Why do I have to do this???
Again, this is somewhat dated information and only applies to fixing a bootlooping device when improperly rooted.
For whatever reason, the install script for SuperSU does not recognize that this device (like many others) requires a systemless root installation. By creating /data/.supersu in the TWRP recovery environment, the SuperSU install script parses the file and sees "SYSTEMLESS=true" and ignores what it auto-detects and forces a systemless root installation.
Hope this is helpful to someone!
As always, if this is the first time you have booted TWRP or attempted root... BACKUP IN TWRP FIRST!!! Once the system is modified, it cannot be undone (easily) and you will always have a known good starting place if the worst happens.
DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for anything that happens... Your device, your responsibility, no matter what happens... Although all the information here has been tested and is known to work with no issues except where noted, things occasionally can and do go wrong and we cannot foresee every possible scenario or circumstance.
If you need assistance, we need detailed information about what what's going on and what you have tried to do... Please provide details including:
1) Device model number and Android version
2) TWRP version
3) SuperSU version
4) Output of 'cat /data/.supersu' from TWRP terminal
And a copy of recovery.log if possible, and any other pertinent information you can think of. Without specific information there is nothing that I can do to assist you and request for help may be ignored.
EDIT: Photos added showing what a proper command and flash should look like. Note that in picture 1 the exit command is not needed, you can just back out. In pictures 2 and 3 a proper flash of SuperSU is shown, note that system-less mode is specified and the boot image is patched, this is what should occur. It is normal for it to loop once or twice, but that is it, first boot could take 10 minutes plus.
NOTE: I no longer own this device, but will help where I can and will keep this thread open to assist users where ever possible, but I no longer have a device to test/verify things with.
Alternate Method #1
Some users have noted that the above method doesn't seem to work, we don't know why as it seems inconsistent but we can't pin it down specifically to user error, certain model number or build, or anything else, as it works 98% of the time...
But if the above method fails, the alternative is to download and copy to SD card or internal storage SuperSU 2.62-3 ßeta version available here and flash it through TWRP like normal.
Reserved - FAQ (oops, guess I already did that)
I'm so glad I found this thread! I've been procrastenating fixing my phone because of all the crappy methods. This one very easy to follow!
But still can't manage to get my WiFi working
I don't get it. But somehow my nandroid backup failed too, because it's only some 2.X MB big and I don't seem to recover anything....
So I guess I'll have to keep trying..
FYI:
1) Moto X Style 6.0
2) TWRP 3.0.2-0
3) Tried both 2.78 and 2.62. Currently running 2.62
4) SYSTEMLESS=true
Jorinde123 said:
I'm so glad I found this thread! I've been procrastenating fixing my phone because of all the crappy methods. This one very easy to follow!
But still can't manage to get my WiFi working
I don't get it. But somehow my nandroid backup failed too, because it's only some 2.X MB big and I don't seem to recover anything....
So I guess I'll have to keep trying..
FYI:
1) Moto X Style 6.0
2) TWRP 3.0.2-0
3) Tried both 2.78 and 2.62. Currently running 2.62
4) SYSTEMLESS=true
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Find the latest rom image for the version you have installed, and flash the radios with fastboot.
acejavelin said:
Find the latest rom image for the version you have installed, and flash the radios with fastboot.
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Thanks for your quick reply. Tried that, didn't work.. The ROM i'm currently running is MPH24.49-18 btw... I'm now trying it the hard way, just reverting everything step by step. But the first step (flashing gpt.bin) is already giving me the preflash error. This is going to be a lot harder than I thought and it's been too long since I've been flashing these things.
Used to flash my Moto Milestone and my Sony X10, can you imagine.
Jorinde123 said:
Thanks for your quick reply. Tried that, didn't work.. The ROM i'm currently running is MPH24.49-18 btw... I'm now trying it the hard way, just reverting everything step by step. But the first step (flashing gpt.bin) is already giving me the preflash error. This is going to be a lot harder than I thought and it's been too long since I've been flashing these things.
Used to flash my Moto Milestone and my Sony X10, can you imagine.
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Because you are not on 49-18, if you were on the latest OTA for 6.0 you were on 49-18-4. Pre-flash validation failure confirms your using the wrong version. Look in my sig for the return to stock thread, there are links to current roms and discussion of the 'preflash validation error'.
Wasn't systemless method only intended for not altering the system partition in such way not to break compatibility with Android Pay and such apps that don't allow root?
Maybe I got it wrong when I first saw the appearance on the scene of systemless root. From what you are saying the auto detect it's supposed to detect with which method the device is compatible (not only detects if system was already modified? let's say like by TWRP).
I wasn't able to flash SuperSu newest stable versions either, all ended up stuck at boot, except for the 2.62 version (updatable later through playstore and binaries thorugh app via normal update). Honestly I haven't tried systemless as for me I through it was a waste (as said I through it wasn't meant for other purpose).
ATM I'm using CM's own root, but I will report as soon as I will try SU again. I never had problems with modem/wifi with SU, only that it didn't boot on newer stable builds.
Got the Moto X Pure a few days ago. It came with 6.0. This procedure works. Thank you!
ban.codrut said:
Wasn't systemless method only intended for not altering the system partition in such way not to break compatibility with Android Pay and such apps that don't allow root?
Maybe I got it wrong when I first saw the appearance on the scene of systemless root. From what you are saying the auto detect it's supposed to detect with which method the device is compatible (not only detects if system was already modified? let's say like by TWRP).
I wasn't able to flash SuperSu newest stable versions either, all ended up stuck at boot, except for the 2.62 version (updatable later through playstore and binaries thorugh app via normal update). Honestly I haven't tried systemless as for me I through it was a waste (as said I through it wasn't meant for other purpose).
ATM I'm using CM's own root, but I will report as soon as I will try SU again. I never had problems with modem/wifi with SU, only that it didn't boot on newer stable builds.
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No, although that was one thing we thought we would gain (which we didn't), Systemless root is to get around Marshmallow security. Root is detected by SafetyNet API, and it detects pretty much any system modification, systemless or not
Currently Using TWRP 3.0.2.0 . Just unlocked bootloader and haven't done anything else . Recovery flash went well during the initial process of unlocking . Now Im trying to make a backup of the stock Rom , everytime I try to make one I keep getting failed at the end of the process ? Is this a known bug ? I have been doing google searches for the past hour and still unable to find anything to indicate anyone else is having this problem . Unless I didn't use the correct terms while searching . Any help would be appreciated
SouthernEvo said:
Currently Using TWRP 3.0.2.0 . Just unlocked bootloader and haven't done anything else . Recovery flash went well during the initial process of unlocking . Now Im trying to make a backup of the stock Rom , everytime I try to make one I keep getting failed at the end of the process ? Is this a known bug ? I have been doing google searches for the past hour and still unable to find anything to indicate anyone else is having this problem . Unless I didn't use the correct terms while searching . Any help would be appreciated
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It is not a known issue... Where are you storing the backup, internal storage or SD card?
acejavelin said:
It is not a known issue... Where are you storing the backup, internal storage or SD card?
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Was backing up to the SD Card . Been messing with it and now its working for some weird reason . I appreciate your quick response though
I used windroid to unlock the bootloader and install twrp( don't reboot system but rather boot into recovery to make twrp stick) , from there I just flashed supersu and I was good to go. Many methods out there but this worked for me.
Thank you so much for this guide. I have to say, as a new Motorola user coming from Samsung phones exclusively, this whole process made me feel like a real noob again.
I made the switch from iOS to Android back when the Galaxy S2 came out because I grew tired of the jailbreak cat and mouse games on the iPhones and iPads. Learning to root and flash ROMs on all my subsequent Samsung devices was fairly simple and very enjoyable. This Moto X Pure though was a real tasker for me. I honestly never knew about the extra steps you had to take to unlock, twrp and root this phone. I really wish manufactures would help us make this much easier.
Anyway, thank you again for your help. I'll be seeing y'all around the forums as a new MXPE user!
acejavelin said:
No, although that was one thing we thought we would gain (which we didn't), Systemless root is to get around Marshmallow security. Root is detected by SafetyNet API, and it detects pretty much any system modification, systemless or not
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Thank you for clarifying a misconception I had on systemless root
(I intentioned to reply to you earlier, but the mad busy week made me forget about my intent )
I'm going to try right now the latest stable with systemless method (rather than flashing the older version) on a full wiped clean stock to see if it works. (Even tho I see lots of feedbacks here inspiring me to believe it would)
In what order?
acejavelin said:
It seems no matter how much this topic gets discussed, people still use old methods and they either fail, or they break something like WiFi, Mobile Data, infinite bootloop, or getting stuck on the boot logo... THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN and it IS repairable, usually without reflashing the entire image. The problem comes from using an old method, outdated SuperSU, or incorrect method. This guide will help you correct most issues, or help you to flash root correctly the FIRST time.
I have written rooting guides for multiple Moto device, and I have owned many Moto devices as well, so I have some idea what I am saying and I have tested these methods extensively, they work.
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This guide covers ALL Moto X 2015 models that can be bootloader unlocked and have TWRP available, it doesn't matter if it is the XT1575 or XT1572, the method is identical (untested on Chinese XT1570, but it should work). In fact, this method will work on all 2015 and 2016 series Moto phones running Marshmallow, including the Moto E, X, G3, G4, and Z with the appropriate TWRP image.
Please read completely and make sure you understand each step and how to do it, if you don't get something search the thread or ask an open question, no offense, but do not PM me with a question because you think it is too stupid to ask in public (we all started as noobs), or because you want me to hold your hand and do it for you, I will politely tell you no and ask you to post in the thread.
If you are coming here because you followed an old guide where you used a special boot.img file and now you have no service (WiFi and/or mobile data) and you don't have a TWRP backup to restore first, well, the RIGHT way to fix it is to reflash the current stock firmware image and start over... why? Because the various "help" people give to have you flash the radio files that match the kernel (ie. boot image) that was patched for the old style root method, has now put you in a mismatched firmware environment and could potentially brick on the next OTA. If you are in this situation and don't know for to properly fix it... go to the FAQ section in post #3 below (WIP-incomplete).
If came are coming here to root the first time, or you just thought you could flash SuperSU and reboot and now stuck in either a bootloop or stuck on the boot logo... Your in luck, read on, because we can fix that in a jiffy!
tl;dr version for advanced users: Skip to "How to do it" section
I am writing this tutorial because there are still lots of failed root attempts using older "standard" methods that do not work on this device. I also do not like the "one click" root methods, because they can and do fail (KingoRoot will brick a Moto X P/S, regardless of what it's web page says), and when they do people have no idea how to fix it. The manual way is not difficult, and it teaches you how to work on, fix, and use your device on a level above that of the average smartphone user.
I will only cover the details of rooting, the prerequisites are covered elsewhere in detail and I will link to reliable sources for the information. Specifics of the prerequisites are outside of the scope of this tutorial, but are open for discussion in this thread.
Prerequisites:
1) Device must have an unlocked bootloader. See Moto - Unlocking the Bootloader for more info.
NOTE: Performing this prerequisite will give you all the tools (fastboot) and drivers needed to continue, and wipe your device, meaning erase all your information and programs. Make sure to backup any important data first. This step will also permanently void your warranty once an unlock code has been issued by Moto, it doesn't matter if you even use it, your warranty is done.
2) You need to have TWRP installed or one-time booted via fastboot. CWM and other recoveries will NOT work at this time. See the official TWRP pages for clark here. I will NOT teach you how to use TWRP in this thread, if you are going to root you need to understand that your self, but if you get in a real bind I may knudge you in the right direction. I will tell you that there are two modes, flashed or booted, the later is much better if you plan to take an OTA later as long as you don't do something stupid like flash Xposed.
3) You need a copy of the latest STABLE SuperSU ZIP from Chainfire's site on the internal storage or SD card of your device, you can always fine the latest stable version here: https://download.chainfire.eu/supersu/ As of this posting SR4-SuperSU-v2.78-SR4-20161115184928.zip is the current stable version and it has been tested and verified to work.
NOTE: Unless otherwise stated, do not use a beta version for rooting Moto devices. SuperSU versions with even numbers are stable versions, while odd numbered versions are beta editions.
4) Reboot and start TWRP recovery, the method you use to do this doesn't matter (boot or flash).
5) Backup your device with TWRP to your SD card, even if you just unlocked and the phone is as blank as a printed page from a 1988 HP DeskJet printer with it's original cartridges still installed, backup... You will always have a good point to return to if the worst happens.
How to do it:
Now, the procedure is the same whether you are trying to root the first time, or you did it the old way just flashing SuperSU and are now not able to boot...
In TWRP, go to Advanced and open the Terminal, in the terminal type this EXACTLY as shown:
Code:
echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu
Now press enter (there is no confirmation returned), then exit and press the Home key. You can verify this worked correctly by entering 'cat /data/.supersu' and see if it returns "SYSTEMLESS=true", if not, you did it wrong, try the echo command again.
Go to Install and select the SuperSU zip file you downloaded from Prerequisite #3 and swipe to flash it and reboot. No need to clear caches or anything else but you are welcome to if you wish. You can install SuperSU updates normally through the app going forward (as of this posting).
Why do I have to do this???
For whatever reason, the install script for SuperSU does not recognize that this device (like many others) requires a systemless root installation. By creating /data/.supersu in the TWRP recovery environment, the SuperSU install script parses the file and sees "SYSTEMLESS=true" and ignores what it auto-detects and forces a systemless root installation.
Hope this is helpful to someone!
As always, if this is the first time you have booted TWRP or attempted root... BACKUP IN TWRP FIRST!!! Once the system is modified, it cannot be undone (easily) and you will always have a known good starting place if the worst happens.
DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for anything that happens... Your device, your responsibility, no matter what happens... Although all the information here has been tested and is known to work with no issues except where noted, things occasionally can and do go wrong and we cannot foresee every possible scenario or circumstance.
If you need assistance, we need detailed information about what what's going on and what you have tried to do... Please provide details including:
1) Device model number and Android version
2) TWRP version
3) SuperSU version
4) Output of 'cat /data/.supersu' from TWRP terminal
And a copy of recovery.log if possible, and any other pertinent information you can think of. Without specific information there is nothing that I can do to assist you and request for help may be ignored.
EDIT: Photos added showing what a proper command and flash should look like. Note that in picture 1 the exit command is not needed, you can just back out. In pictures 2 and 3 a proper flash of SuperSU is shown, note that system-less mode is specified and the boot image is patched, this is what should occur. It is normal for it to loop once or twice, but that is it, first boot could take 10 minutes plus.
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I really appreciate the help, but I have one question. Do I flash SuperSu and then type the command into the terminal, or do I type the terminal command first?
Thanks again for your help,
Matt
Iglooian said:
I really appreciate the help, but I have one question. Do I flash SuperSu and then type the command into the terminal, or do I type the terminal command first?
Thanks again for your help,
Matt
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First, a little etiquette lesson, please don't quote long posts (especially the first post) for no reason, at the very least edit it down to only show the relevant parts so people don't have to scroll through a long meaningless quote.
And to answer your question, you enter the terminal command first, then install SuperSU, that is how it is ordered in the first post instructions. If you read the entire first post, it explains what the command does, and logic therefore lets you know it must be done first.
acejavelin said:
First, a little etiquette lesson, please don't quote long posts (especially the first post) for no reason, at the very least edit it down to only show the relevant parts so people don't have to scroll through a long meaningless quote.
And to answer your question, you enter the terminal command first, then install SuperSU, that is how it is ordered in the first post instructions. If you read the entire first post, it explains what the command does, and logic therefore lets you know it must be done first.
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Actually, it was unclear what order I was supposed to do it in; we call that a clarifying question, but thanks anyway.
Iglooian said:
Actually, it was unclear what order I was supposed to do it in; we call that a clarifying question, but thanks anyway.
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Fair enough... I will edit the "How to do it" section to make it more clear.

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