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Hi I've had a vodafone branded Palm Treo 750v (specs below) running OK on Telecom XT in New Zealand since May '09. On Friday the 13th Of November, the carrier line on today screen showed "53005" instead of "Telecom NZ" and may have even said "o2" in the spot for a bit...but still worked. Then, from mid-day on the 13th through now (17 Nov) it's said "No service"...and meant it.
There were 3 times where I briefly (minutes) got service...twice in central Hamilton and one in Papakura (near Aucklaland). A sim card from 2degrees works in the phone when I get no service from the Telecom sim. Got a v2 simcard from Telecom today...same problem in store, but when I walked out it started working outside building in central Hamilton! When I drove out of central Hamilton today it stopped working. Despite hours on phone/email with Telecom, no solution. So, I'm thinking it might have something to do with the bands...maybe they changed something on Friday? Some clues:
The band selection is set to auto and auto. I understand Telecom runs WCDMA 850...and in some city centres it runs 2100...but my phone has only:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS 2100
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
The places where I briefly got reception match up with where there is likely 2100.
Tried re-flashing ROM, removing sim, re-flashing radio, changing band settings to manual...no effect.
Any help appreciated.
I'd swap to a different ROM - preferably a generic one.
Those Vodafone ROMs are locked down for some frequencies.
Your best bet is to follow some of the guides which let you install a different ROM on your phone - a good one give you more control of the frequencies you can choose. The MiniSD card bootloader method is what you're after.
I can't speak for NZ, as I've not been over there yet to play with the XT network, but in Australia on Telstra's NextG network, I set the network to:
UMTS ONLY
and UMTS(850)
I've found the coverage of the 850 umts network to be better than any of the others, and stopping the phone jumping between frequencies also helps things considerably.
But if Telecom haven't rolled out 850 in the urban centers yet, I'd set it to UMTS ONLY/ UMTS (2100+850).
Hi there. I should've made it clearer...phone was Vodafone branded and I upgraded to a cooked ROM that was working fine. When problem happend, I then tried a couple radios and non-cooked ROMs...same issue.
Well...since my post Telecom replaced my sim card to a V2 card. But the new sim wasn't working at telecom store...went home not hopeful but then it just started working...problem seems to have gone. Still don't know what exact issue was...but it works.
Take home point: If you have issue, try new sim card and maybe give it a few hors to work.
Hi there,
I am having the same problem on HTC Touch Pro. It is Vodafone branded. I am using NATF latest standard rom.
Does anyone have any advice? I would love a fix as I do not want to have to change networks.
From Liam
Not sure but might want to look here:
http://pdabreak.com/2008/htc-touch-pro-review/
"And here is the bad news now: It has been officially confirmed by HTC that the devices would be available as quadband, with separate versions available for North American and rest of the world markets. That means if you own the European version of the HTC Pro and afterwards fly to the US, your $1000 piece of hi-tech gadget simply won’t work on their 850mhz band or even if it does with the custom Rom pack, but in that case won’t be able to use 3G frequencies there. A disappointing fact indeed as most phones these days offer seamless connectivity to all 3G and HSPA bands throughout world. Further to agonize, the North American version won’t be available anytime sooner than December this year."
So as the title implies, im planning on purchasing the At &t carrier locked infuse 4g from the american EBAY site and wish to use it on an indian carrier.
Before i make the purchase, could somebody tell me about the risks involved and the success rate of the procedure mentioned in this forum?
Dont want the thing bricking on me or anything.....=x
Wrong Forum buddy!
as for unlocking it. it will be unlocked and work on any network, it would be up to you to see if you will be picking up 3G or Edge speeds.
Ah sorry, ill be moving this to the Q & A section.
Btw do i absolutely NEED a sim card pre installed inside the phone to unlock?
And how safe is the unlock procedure?
Like is there a chance that i may not get the right code or something?
I suppose on the rare chance it could be possible to get the wrong code, but honestly if you follow the instructions that are posted here; you shouldn't have a problem. I don't believe a sim card is required to get the code since you don't need one in the phone to mess around with it when you turn it on. I could be slightly wrong with that though, but I'm almost 100% certain that won't be necessary.
Make sure you post stuff in the correct forum in the future though.
There is minor chance if you use batch file unlock but not with manually finding a code. Make sure not to enter wrong unlock code entered more then like 5 times.
You will be able to use 3g on airtel gujarat and bsnl networks.
Infuse is dual band phone and not quad band which is standard now more or less and i wonder why samsung did that. So long story short it might not work on some networks india even for voice. Your best bet is galaxy series gsm phones.
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There is minor chance if you use batch file unlock but not with manually finding a code. Make sure not to enter wrong unlock code entered more then like 5 times.
You will be able to use 3g on airtel gujarat and bsnl networks.
Infuse is dual band phone and not quad band which is standard now more or less and i wonder why samsung did that. So long story short it might not work on some networks india even for voice. Your best bet is galaxy series gsm phones.
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unlocked listed in ebay india
urtruelove78 said:
There is minor chance if you use batch file unlock but not with manually finding a code. Make sure not to enter wrong unlock code entered more then like 5 times.
You will be able to use 3g on airtel gujarat and bsnl networks.
Infuse is dual band phone and not quad band which is standard now more or less and i wonder why samsung did that. So long story short it might not work on some networks india even for voice. Your best bet is galaxy series gsm phones.
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Infuse is quad-band GSM which is standard. Quad-band UMTS is almost unheard of... Triband UMTS is the standard (two carrier-specific USA bands + the international UMTS2100 band)
Infuse is 850,1900 gsm and dual band umts not quad band gsm. See page 171 of manual.
Quad band that's what i thought earlier but has to make sure before selling on ebay and realized i was wrong. Many cellphone website list it as quad band gsm which is incorrect.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997.
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Infuse is 850,1900 gsm and dual band umts not quad band gsm. See page 171 of manual.
Quad band that's what i thought earlier but has to make sure before selling on ebay and realized i was wrong. Many cellphone website list it as quad band gsm which is incorrect.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997.
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That's only FCC-required safety information for operation in the US. In the US, it will only operate on those bands so they only publish SAR information that applies to the USA.
In addition to those bands, it supports others. Complete list is:
GSM850/900/1800/1900, UMTS850/1900/2100
i am using unlocked infuse in india.... unlocked using method on this site... no issues...
I went to India on vacation last month... used my Infuse on three networks -- BSNL, Airtel, and T24. Worked on all three. Airtel was the best using 850 Band. T24 used 2100 band. Don't remember what band of BSNL it used.
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I went to India on vacation last month... used my Infuse on three networks -- BSNL, Airtel, and T24. Worked on all three. Airtel was the best using 850 Band. T24 used 2100 band. Don't remember what band of BSNL it used.
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Great. As I was selling on eBay, default specs eBay adds from cnet says dual band and manual also says so, I was going by that.
Useful info and real world experience from form member means I can take it with me in upcoming visit to homeland.
diablo009 said:
I went to India on vacation last month... used my Infuse on three networks -- BSNL, Airtel, and T24. Worked on all three. Airtel was the best using 850 Band. T24 used 2100 band. Don't remember what band of BSNL it used.
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diablo009 - could you tell me if it allowed you to select the network operator manually OR how it brhaved if you ever went out of the coverage area? Did it select another network automatically?
Samsung Infuse 4G works in India!
Hi, Infuse works very nicely in India mobile networks, at least it works fine with Vodafone. This phone is sure an amazing phone I have seen so far till date!
It is available with ATT for around 70-100 US$ depending on season under 2 years contract. You have to pay around 320 US$ if you want to break the contract. Every month the minimum payment towards monthly usage charge is around 70US$ (features are mandatory, this is the lowest minimal). As you use and pay, every month the contract break amount will be reduced by US$ 10. Still this is worth for the mobile. Again you will be having a legal phone too.
It is a Quad band mobile. You need unlocking code to unlock the phone, the procedures listed for rooting and unlocking sometime works only with certain SIM available in US but the minute you try with a SIM from India the mobile will again ask for Unlock code. The maximum retries is 10 times (again this may differ with the firmware in your mobile).
This phone has an excellent screen quality, very good camera, 1.2 GHz processor, 2 GB for application, 14 GB internal memory, 2 GB SD Card (upgradeable to 32 GB), HDMI out, very slim and light, has scratch proof gorilla glass too.
Apt screen size, very good accessories (Desktop dock with its nice app, 3rd party 3400 mAH high capacity battery)
Install Nemus Launcher / Launcher Pro... it will make the phone pleasant using it!
Note: Upgrade to Gingerbread is not available till now and there is no clue on whether it will be available in future! this phone has an issue in connecting with Kies software from samsung though the menu in the phone for connectivity has it as one of the options of connectivity.
Hi,
I'm new to posting on xda, been using it for advice for ages but this is the first time I haven't been able to find my answer. So I'm going to apologize if I've posted this in the wrong place or done anything else incorrectly right now.
I ordered an R7 plus from Taiwan and received it a few days ago. A great phone, i am entirely in love with it. I can put up with the bits of scattered chinese in the settings as i will be flashing cyanogen as soon as it's available. My problem however lies in the connectivity. I didnt know a whole lot about wireless data before ordering the phone, but what little I did know I applied to my research and found that all three variants of the phone should work on my providers network. I have the Taiwanese variant, which does supposedly support the 2100mhz, and 2600mhz frequencies, which i believe are bands 4 and 7, anyway, these two frequencies are the frequencies my provider uses. Rogers uses FDD with 2100 being up and 2600 being down. Yet in the phone settings when selecting which LTE band 4 and 7 arent options, there's USA Band (Im unsure what this really is, I assumed it was 4 because much of the us uses band 4), 6, 33, etc. And I havent been able to get LTE to work. The APN is configured correctly. All anyone's been able to tell me is that it should work. I can provide any more information you guys need, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
Edit: For more info- My provider is Rogers, i have also tried it on Bell (still only 3g), and Wind, which works the majority of Chinese phones and it didnt even pick up their network. Any advice would be great!
I was looking to purchase this phone early as its £100 off in the UK but am worried about the below from reading on here.
There are problems with the phone no working with LTE as some have mentioned there is no option within the OS to say that its supported or lacks a way to enable it. Also reading below comment from my Carrier ThreeUK I may hold of is call quality is a issue until someone can check the options in the ROGPhones settings and ThreeUK confirm support for 3rd party phones on their network.
4G Super-Voice doesn't work on other non-Three devices yet however, even if the manufacturer has stated that it's VoLTE compatible. We're working on this, so be sure to check back for updates.
Is there anyone who can check and advise if this worth holding back for at the cost of £100 as id buy the phone out right
Just wondering this too. I have a Pixel 2 XL and a Moto G6 Plus on it's way and I would like to get VOLTE (AKA Supervoice) working. Option to enable it is missing and go deeper into the settings and VOLTE Provisioning is greyed out
My Carrier Three UK support the following bands:
800mhz (4G) Band 20
1800mhz (4G) Band 3
2100mhz (3G) Band 1
i get lost between phone version A and B as both support FDD-LTE bands listed above. I dont get TD-LTE at all in my country, then what confuses me is WCDMA where i get band 1 & 3 but not 20, then TS-SCMA and CDMA and the last row i dont think is still on in the uk.
so having a look on the razer phone specs as i know it works on three uk even when bought from razer but as the stock both RP1 and RP2 this maybe in their carrier settings.
https://www.razer.com/gb-en/compare?products=Phone-Base,Phone-2-Base …
compared to the RP1 i have and RP2 and then comparing to Asus i think ill be ok but need to test the LTE/Supervoice. i dont make calls that often so need to see the impact it has but then in 15 days i could test this out once the phones setup and updated make a few calls without wifi connection at my desk at work and at my house where they are the only two places i may hit a black spot and have to rely on wifi calling but this is where LTE comes in and is required to allow me to make that call on LTE/Super Voice rather than wifi calling so that if i have to leave the room or building the call does not drop out.
this is comforting to hear though from Three UK on the page below
"Right now, all 4G Super-Voice compatible iPhones will be 4G Super-Voice enabled once the carrier settings have been installed, even if they didn't come from Three.
4G Super-Voice doesn't work on other non-Three devices yet however, even if the manufacturer has stated that it's VoLTE compatible. We're working on this, so be sure to check back for updates.
Phone not compatible?
We update this list with more phones regularly, so check back again soon."
http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/network/4G-Supervoice
its basically a test it and see what happens, so if i can make a decent call from home or work at that point if i find its hard to make and stay connected on the phone in a call i will have to return the device.
If its not a problem and i can make and receive a call without LTE support even if it comes later which would be nice but not needed right away i can live without it. Hey i may just even work when the carrier settings hit my phone but if people say the option is greyed out that could be the network or phone doesnt support it. However if Asus are selling the phone as LTE supported and its at the bottom of the page im leading towards its enabled by carrier settings if not then i would investigate as ASUS need to look at their settings because their technically breaking the law if their advertising it as a feature and your carrier say it will work but the phone doesnt enable it. Again if you have this issue do not throw this at ASUS without doing homework 1st as from smart phones these days its hard to see where a problem lies could be google or asus or your carrier.
If you buy from asus uk direct you get 15 days to test it and check it over so in that time you its one of the things to check and return if it doesnt for you.
It hard to just buy a phone thats not sold with a contract these days and yes even Apple phones have features that some carriers support and some dont. Look at visual voice mail as i was with o2 UK for years and got freaked out when i lost the visual voicemail feature because i moved to Three UK. where you get a txt message rather than a little icon with a number on it. small thing but a good example.
I did try contacting ASUS about VoLTE and Wifi Calling on Three. Or if they didn't support it on the unlocked version would they be selling the device through UK Carriers where they would put there own version of the firmware on the device to support these functionalities. But as I kinda expected would happen there response wasn't exactly clear. I think they just took a look at the spec sheet and said yep it says VoLTE on there and replied to me.
Would love to get this to replace my Razer Phone but rely on Wifi Calling/VoLTE as signal just dies inside the flat.
Code:
"Dear Luke,
Thank you for contacting Asus support. Yes VoLTE is support
[B]RF Band Support[/B]
FDD-LTE - Band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32
TD-LTE - Band 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46
WCDMA - Band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19
TD-SCDMA - Band 34, 39
CDMA - Band BC0
EDGE/GPRS/GSM - 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
DL 5CA and UL 2CA supported
4x4 MIMO and CA w/4x4 MIMO supported (please see band config worksheet)
[B]Network features[/B]
Gigabit LTE
CAT 16
4x4 MIMO
256 QAM
UL 64QAM
feICIC
RACH Optimization
CMDA Less
ETTI-B
SCM
SON/MDT
[U][B][I]VoLTE/VoWiFi[/I][/B][/U]
As for the information on availability, this has not yet been annouced in what way it will be released
Kind regards,
Peter S.
Asus Customer Service
Asus Technical Support Site: http://support.asus.com"
I have pre ordered from the official website/asus reseller i have a list of things i will be comparing to my Razer Phone 1st gen. if it meets the standard im happy with i will keep the phone and if not then it goes back for a refund. Im the same but i think LTE/VOLTE is a gimmick as i barely see that im using it enough to justify my phone being locked down to a carrier. Current all ThreeUK related settings such as LTE/4G Supervoice and wifi calling is off and has been for about 2 weeks now and i must say i have not noticed a difference.
Worth checking and turning off some settings as LTE is only really used in blackspot.
I got the phone during £100 off and also got the twin view dock before it went out of stock was probably the first few ppl to get the dock cuz soon after it was out of stock
Works well with three £20 unlimited broadband package unlimited message, voice thats why i like three their data package are always a good buy
But my speeds arnt bad as its 4G and no issue with calls either three may send a message saying it cant automatically set the settings up for this device as they normally message you the network settings but it dint need setting up it worked right away
I'm currently with EE. No VoLTE no VoWiFi. Hope Pie update will have it cooked in. OnePlus 6 got them both.
Hey everyone,
the new Zenfone 6 is amazing, besides the FlipCamera it has nearly everything (big battery, microSD, 3,5 mm headphone,...).
Just one thing irritates me: there are three Versions A, B and C, as one can see here under "Network Standard"
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/Tech-Specs/
So can someone tell me what that means? Like if I get the European version A (with Band 20), will I than for instance not be able to use it in the USA for telephone / SMS?! Or just not LTE / can I still use it like on UMTS? No LTE at all or just not certain carriers?
Hope someone can make it clear to me, thanks in advance
You'll be able to use it anywhere, it's just there's slightly less band coverage, so some networks in some countries would be nixed.
See Kimovil.com for network compatibility.
Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495.
It means you'll have to be sure to verify you get the version with the bands needed for your particular carrier. You have to be very careful and verify before buying as it seems with the ZenFone 5Z, for example, sellers don't always properly clarify which version they're selling.
You need to find out which of the main bands your phone carrier uses then match them up to one of the versions. I use AT&T prepaid, so for for example I need a phone with coverage for bands 2,4,5,8, and 17 if I recall correctly.
If some bands aren't covered you won't have LTE in that area, as not all areas you're in are using the same network frequency bands. Therefore coverage can get worse when you travel with a phone without full band support.
Checked out the bands available on the Asus site you linked (thank you very much BTW) and it seems they are missing bands 66(extension of band 4) & 71 (600mhz frequency) so it seems like it may work okay on TMobile.
What do you guys think if those two bands are missing? Will it be detrimental to daily use or not really? Currently on an OG Pixel and this Asus offering is looking like a future purchase!!
CDMA (Sprint or Verizon) compatiblity in the US?
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CDMA (Sprint or Verizon) compatiblity in the US?
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Looks like the C variants might work for you but double check the bands for your carrier Kimovil.com.
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See Kimovil.com for network compatibility.
Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495.
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Thanks for the hint.
I need Band 20 (O2 Germany), so I can only use Version A (so no B or C for me).
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I just checked: T-Online and Vodafone use Band 20 and 32 (in Germany), but none of the three versions support both.
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If some bands aren't covered you won't have LTE in that area, as not all areas you're in are using the same network frequency bands. Therefore coverage can get worse when you travel with a phone without full band support.
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Ok, but does it mean I will at least have telephone and SMS in those areas, where the LTE band won't be supported?!
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Ok, but does it mean I will at least have telephone and SMS in those areas, where the LTE band won't be supported?!
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Yes, as long at the other bands are supported (which they should be) it will drop to 3G/4G or whatever. That's why people using some Chinese phones for example in the USA can use everything but LTE.
You might
need to check however about VoLTE, I think. I don't have T-Mobile but you should read more about that as I've seen it mentioned in XDA & other places.
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> Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495
I only see the A version there. Where did you find the C version?
This device just hit my radar... looks like we might have an upgrade winner!
For Tmobile US, C model is the way to go. The two highest bands that are missing with this device would get you better signal indoors / less interference, but I am not sure how far along that tech even is.
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The two highest bands that are missing with this device would get you better signal indoors / less interference, but I am not sure how far along that tech even is.
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By highest bands do you mean 66 and 71? The only phones that use band 71 at the moment are Samsung s8 Active and LG V30. I currently have an OG Pixel and it does not use 66 or 71 and I get great coverage in the East coast even when going north into the mountains.
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By highest bands do you mean 66 and 71? The only phones that use band 71 at the moment are Samsung s8 Active and LG V30. I currently have an OG Pixel and it does not use 66 or 71 and I get great coverage in the East coast even when going north into the mountains.
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Yep, those are the two. Those two are still relatively new, and general Tmo coverage continues to improve here in Colorado.
I imagine that once the phone is sold on the asus.com website that particular variant will support all the main carriers LTE bands. I would be surprised if there were any major issues with that otherwise what's the point of even selling it in the USA?
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I imagine that once the phone is sold on the asus.com website that particular variant will support all the main carriers LTE bands.
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Yes, for example in the case of the 5Z I just ordered (to get me by since I desperately need a phone with a better camera & no OLED to cause eye strain) the bands listed for phones at the Asus USA online store cover AT&T properly and to the best of my knowledge T-Mobile as well.
I figured out that they don't list phones there that aren't USA network compatible. I still check, regardless, just to feel 100% sure but that's what I found.
It's the 3rd party sellers you really need to be careful about and always verify.
The OnePlus 7 pro has bands 66 and 71.
This probably would have been my first choice until I noticed the different versions. With more and more manufacturers choosing to release single, global bands phones, I really don't understand why Asus insist on continuing to release regional versions of their phones.
Back in the days when everyone made regional models, I had the Padfone Infinity 2 and it was a great phone (until a late OTA release have it the new ZenUI, which was promptly removed). After reading that the latest ZenUI 6 has been slimmed down to an almost stock Android experience, I thought it might once again be similar to what Asus provided before ZenUI came along and that I can now once again consider Asus phones. Wrong!
I spend time in both Europe and Asia and there is no version that covers both areas major LTE bands. So Asus will have to remain on the list of phones to ignore.
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This probably would have been my first choice until I noticed the different versions. With more and more manufacturers choosing to release single, global bands phones, I really don't understand why Asus insist on continuing to release regional versions of their phones.
Back in the days when everyone made regional models, I had the Padfone Infinity 2 and it was a great phone (until a late OTA release have it the new ZenUI, which was promptly removed). After reading that the latest ZenUI 6 has been slimmed down to an almost stock Android experience, I thought it might once again be similar to what Asus provided before ZenUI came along and that I can now once again consider Asus phones. Wrong!
I spend time in both Europe and Asia and there is no version that covers both areas major LTE bands. So Asus will have to remain on the list of phones to ignore.
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I'm in the same position. The C version covers everything I need except for Band 20 which is a necessity throughout Europe. The A version has Bamd 20 but won't work on US LTE. They did the same thing with the Zenfone 2 and inexplicably mixed up the bands regionally. I'll stick with my NexS for now but keep an eye on this phone in case the Limited edition they usually release solves the problem.
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The OnePlus 7 pro has bands 66 and 71.
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I don't want the OP7. This isn't the OP7 forum.