Camera Quality on Moto G - is it really this bad? - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I bought a camera for my wife, and we're really unhappy with the camera - I read reviews indicating it was average but compared to loads of the sample shots seen online, appear to be way below what is acceptable
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This was taken a few minutes ago - but clearly shows the quality issues...
Is it really as bad as this? Other people seem to be getting very reasonable results!
Thanks for taking the time to read and hopefully reply.

emyllis said:
So I bought a camera for my wife, and we're really unhappy with the camera - I read reviews indicating it was average but compared to loads of the sample shots seen online, appear to be way below what is acceptable
This was taken a few minutes ago - but clearly shows the quality issues...
Is it really as bad as this? Other people seem to be getting very reasonable results!
Thanks for taking the time to read and hopefully reply.
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If you're the kind of person who knows enough to know what to look for to depict if a camera is bad or not than it's probably not what you're looking
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Looks way too soft for an outdoor shot. Make sure there isn't any sweat or oil coating on the lens. I find mine can often get stuff from my hands, which impairs the quality. I always give the lens a quick wipe with my shirt before taking important photos.

I agree with Gone Tomorrow - the biggest problem I have seems to be the lens getting mucky. It's not the best camera in the world, but for the usual shots of kids growing up, tourist photos etc its perfectly usable.
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Maybe the software post processing on stock camera is too high. Do you think it's possible to find a camera app with low post processing overall?

Someone can port the HTC one m8 camera app?
http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-one-m8_Mobile-Phone_review_camera-app_Page-5

Well, motorola has acknowledged there's an issue.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e2f2722bfc?commentId=801623#801623
We’ve been exploring several options to improve the camera. Some items are already on the list – we will fix the intermittent split-flash problem that produces a picture split into light and dark halves. We are working on the intermittent red-tint issue. Other areas are more difficult because any change to improve one area will create other artifacts -- and someone will object to those.
That being said, we have a plan to improve, and much of it is based on the feedback gathered from this thread and others. Thank you. It won’t be fast because it requires changes beyond what we can do through updates to the Camera app itself. But we’re going to make changes that in addition to the items above, should improve sharpness and detail.
I cannot comment on the timing of updates, so I can only ask for patience as we work through this. And again, thanks for the feedback; the photos and observations posted and sent via email were instrumental in helping us get to this point.
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Probably that timing will be for Android L's release on our phone.
EDIT: Meanwhile, make sure the lens is always clear, and take pictures using the continuous mode. That is, tap on the screen as if you were to take a picture, but hold it. Once you see 1,2,3,etc numbers, you can release. That's the number of pictures taken.
The thing is, taking pictures that way, they turn out sharper and a bit noisier.. but much better overall. Afterwards you can delete the extra ones and keep the best.

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Camera 360 works much better then stock cam software.

So I took some pics with different settings in Camera 360 program. I forgot what the settings I selected were but its pretty much all of them.
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This was all done on the phone. No computer side processing.
Oh P.S. these are all seprate pics of the same thing.
better because it has some extra filters?
take some long distance shots with the default camera app, then take the same shot with camera 360, and we'll see which picture looks sharper.
Berserk87 said:
better because it has some extra filters?
take some long distance shots with the default camera app, then take the same shot with camera 360, and we'll see which picture looks sharper.
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Will do in the morning
Yeah, I've taken pictures just as good of close-up flowers with the stock camera app. Those look great though! The camera is pretty excellent on the Captivate IMO.
Some of those filters look fantastic!!
/downloading camera360
for some reason i find that my camera is sub-par.. pictures always come out blurry even though i am very steady. i will try camera 360 and hopefully it will help
So what color is the flower supposed to be? Purple or Red. I'd say that only one of those photos looks good. I think the one where its red looks good, the leaves look a good solid green. The rest look kind of like "neon" lights or something.
I find that my Touch Pro w/ it's 3.2MP camera takes sharper photos than the captivate does indoors. I have a 30" monitor so I can actually verify if the camera is keeping up with the horizontal resolution of 2560. I would rate the effective pixel resolution only at like 2.5MP for the captivate. I would say the rest of the 2.5MP seem extrapolated w/ noise.
While YellowGTO's shots look good, we must remember that they are downsized. I tried out camera 360 as well. But imo that application only applies some digital filters to beef up the picture - I can do this w/ picasa. In the end TP's shots blow those of captivate to dust. Captivate lacks refinement.
Engadget did say that the camera quality is better on the vibrant than it is in the captivate. It would be nice if someone who also has access to the vibrant or the i9000 can compare the refinement abilities.
looks awesome!!!
Does this app let you use the camera on a low battery (unlike the stock)?
Those all look severly over saturated to my eye.
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Does this app let you use the camera on a low battery (unlike the stock)?
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Yes it does.
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Yes it does.
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Which is one of the main advantages of this program. I also like Fxcamera, though the pictures quality looks far worse on the computer than when viewed on the phone.

[Q] camera quality [SOLVED BY FACTORY RESET]

Hi everybody,
lately I've been very not satisfied with the quality of photos from my sensation,
I'll upload three examples and explain afterwards:
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basically in all photos the sharpness is very poor, in the first photo you can see my face is very much blurred and in the second photo the whole forest is very blurred, also my car looks blurred and the colors are very weak..
in the third one you can see the structure is smudged and very blurred as well as can be seen best on it's lower left side.
some info -
sensation is not rooted and has the 2.3.4 update.
photos were taken with auto settings.
tried setting the ISO to 100 and all the way up, the blurriness is present still.
camera is set to 8 MP.
car photo weighs 1.65 MB, mine weighs 704KB and the third ones weighs 354KB.
restarted the phone several times.
reset the camera settings.
*cleaned the lens only after taking these photos but it wasn't foggy or dirty.
I get this blurriness when taking pictures outside at daytime or in sunset, photos at night are really terrible and look like they were taken with a 10 year old nokia crap.
sometimes I can get really nice photos, macro looks great, took a photo in my garage of the concrete ground with water on it in low light conditions and came out nice.
photo of the car was taken an hour before sunset with quite sunlight outside, did not use flash, and all of the photos in that session came out blurry and very low quality.
thoughts???
P.S. I'll add the original photos to the thread too, the blurriness can be seen better in the originals.
Try to play with some setting ect. download a couple of camera app's from the market, and play with those settings.
HTC compresses the photos a lot for some reason, that's why they come out bad at times. You might want to try a camera mod.
HTCs seem to always have this white washed out picture look.
Even my HTC hero did not produce images this bad D:
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Factory reset solved the quality issue, camera now again takes amazing photos
FACTORY reset of all phone or ??
I have same problem, but I don't want to wipe all
xsardax said:
FACTORY reset of all phone or ??
I have same problem, but I don't want to wipe all
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Yeah.. I used the 'factory data reset' in settings > sd and phone storage.
shouldn't be too much of a hassle, just make a list of your most important stuff and re-install it.. a factory reset does only good I'm very pleased with the phone now, even more than before
I need to try a reset I think. The photos taken with my XE are shockingly bad, so much so that I'm wondering if I have a duff camera.
Yeah that's exactly the blurriness I was experiencing, try a hard reset and let me know if that helped.
Take in mind that the sensation's caera does decode the pictures to a mind blowing small size photo so maybe that's the issue..
Well, it hasn't helped, worth a try though.

Note 20 Ultra - Keyboard wildly inaccurate

I've had this phone since it came out. It's mostly been a miss for me. It's not the worst phone I've ever had (HTC Evo), but it is far from the best. The two things that are annoying me the most about it are the camera and its lack of macro abilities and the keyboard. I just can't type accurately on it at all. No matter how careful I am, half of the words I type are just completely wrong. This was not an issue on the Note 8 that I came from. So far, that's been my favorite phone.
Does anyone know of any way to increase the accuracy of the keyboard? I feel like if I could just calibrate it somehow, it would be better than the absolute pile of suck that it is right now.
Thanks
no idea but i find my self always hittinf the period instead of space bar
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no idea but i find my self always hittinf the period instead of space bar
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I do that. And I also hit the left shift button when trying for one of the letters close to it. This keyboard is the worst experience that I've had with a phone keyboard. It makes me want to toss the damned phone.
For a camera system smaller than a match box how much do you expect?
For macros, pan back into the focus range of the lense and even further back to get more depth of field. Brace the phone on something solid to avoid cam shake.
All lens have limitations.
blackhawk said:
For a camera system smaller than a match box how much do you expect?
For macros, pan back into the focus range of the lense and even further back to get more depth of field. Brace the phone on something solid to avoid cam shake.
All lens have limitations.
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I expected it to work as well as my Note 8 that had absolutely no problems with macro shots. Note8 is a much older phone that does a better job.
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I expected it to work as well as my Note 8 that had absolutely no problems with macro shots. Note8 is a much older phone that does a better job.
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Not the same lens system. You need to work within it's capabilities assuming that it's working as designed... and that Samsung didn't drop the ball. A lot of dropped Samsung balls lately.
Not sure why the keyboard in so much trouble unless they changed the spacing... which I really hate.
That phone and the N10+ were the last good Samsung phones, so far. Think I'll stick with my 10+ though; I especially loathe Android 10 and 11.
Google excels at ball dropping... guess they're too busy rigging results
Samsung is also notorious for dropping essential features for a design cycle then adding them back, like the SD card slot.
It's infuriating... like dealing with a box full of rabid gerbils.
Update: I've started using the gboard keyboard and it is a lot better. I'm a bit nervous about using it because of google being able to collect all of my keystrokes, but it is so much better and more accurate than Samsung's keyboard could ever hope to be.
update your phone to the last firmware and open camera you see 2x on the screen like that
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And second problem you have you can use keys cafe app you cab adjust your keyboard and replacement key buttons and use effects its very helpful

Question question about ending the speaker of the conversation

hi, i need help could the owners of the silver pixel 7 pro have a look into the slot of the loudspeaker for calls? because normally it will go crazy, do you have the entire filling in black or are there silver gaps as in the picture? I was looking for many videos from disassembling pixels as it should be and I got stupid. I am sending pictures of what I mean, you have to look at the right angle Thanks in advance for your response
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hi, i need help could the owners of the silver pixel 7 pro have a look into the slot of the loudspeaker for calls? because normally it will go crazy, do you have the entire filling in black or are there silver gaps as in the picture? I was looking for many videos from disassembling pixels as it should be and I got stupid. I am sending pictures of what I mean, you have to look at the right angle Thanks in advance for your response
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Mine is all black, no "gaps".
So I thought that my Pixel is unique and now the question arises in connection with this factory "flower" will this loss of seals, fillings somehow affect the operation of the phone, e.g. water resistance? Report it under warranty?
Mine has the same effect as your speaker grill, but the darker lines are equal distances from the front camera punch out. Too even to be dirt or anything that would accumulate in a random manner. I wouldn't worry about it, personally.
If you're worries about the ip rating maintaining, use this app from time to time to make sure it's still good: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.waterresistancetester
I feel like you might have a hard time getting google to replace your phone for that. Might not hurt to at least inquire so you can have it documented that you reached out previously in the unlikely event that it causes issues. Good luck friend!
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Mine has the same effect as your speaker grill, but the darker lines are equal distances from the front camera punch out. Too even to be dirt or anything that would accumulate in a random manner. I wouldn't worry about it, personally.
If you're worries about the ip rating maintaining, use this app from time to time to make sure it's still good: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.waterresistancetester
I feel like you might have a hard time getting google to replace your phone for that. Might not hurt to at least inquire so you can have it documented that you reached out previously in the unlikely event that it causes issues. Good luck friend!
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I fixed this tiny defect in my own way, using a marker that we use at work and a piece of paper, I painted the inside black a bit tedious job because you had to dot by dot at points but finally now it looks like God commanded. Before the procedure, I checked the tightness using the application, thanks a lot, I didn't even know such a thing existed.
I respect the dedication and it looks good! I love that app. I use it to make sure the seals are good from time to time and it gives good peace of mind.
I have no gaps but the sound is ok.
Maybe Google is experimenting with real buyers and one of them appears in the p8p...

S21FE camera rant :-(

This p155 poor camera surely can't be hardware can it? i have not known a worse camera for a long time. Any shots in anything other than really good light are pretty terible. Tried in all modes, and wish I could go back to my Mate 20 Pro which wasn't the best but superior to this in low light!!
Even macro on my S6 was more useful despite being lower resolution!
Sorry for the rant, but this is the last time I'll buy samsung I think. If anyone can tell me a cheap andoid phone with better low light than this I would be greatful (I know they exist as I have seen images but can never remember what they are!).
Thanks [/rant over]
Welcome to XDA.
Post some examples of the fails.
Anything from the N9 up should be able to capture good shots especially in good condition light. Macros are a weakness because of the lense and shallow depth of field ie fast lens that can't be stopped down.
With some practice even the S4+ could grab usable macros... to a point. With a shallow dof the focus point needs to be spot on. Subject distance is also critical.
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Thanks for responding Blackhawk. Thing is, I am adept at photography (long time owner of Nikon D90 which I never use in auto! but I do use my camera underground in mines that I explore, and I am comparing with other camera's (including my old mate20pro). When we take photos side by side with other friends this rarely fails to disapoint.
What I will do is take some more pics next week with a friend who has a pixel under the same light conditions for comparison
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Thanks for responding Blackhawk. Thing is, I am adept at photography (long time owner of Nikon D90 which I never use in auto! but I do use my camera underground in mines that I explore, and I am comparing with other camera's (including my old mate20pro). When we take photos side by side with other friends this rarely fails to disapoint.
What I will do is take some more pics next week with a friend who has a pixel under the same light conditions for comparison
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Auto aperture was my primary mode many times with my Canons. Smartphones are crude cams by comparison...
Mines? You out west? Ghost towns and cold war relics too?
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Auto aperture was my primary mode many times with my Canons. Smartphones are crude cams by comparison...
Mines? You out west? Ghost towns and cold war relics too?
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Ah sorry by auto I mean auto lol... Ap and shutter priority are excellent and very much have their place!
Regards mines I like in the UK. I am part of a club who looks after copper mines going back to the bronze age. We also explore mines and go spelunking a lot too!
Would love to get over to the many gold mines in the US. A friend bought one a while back for a £1 lol... Never been to the US sadly!
I will say I have been blown away by the standard set by Google and Apple in dark areas though. We had a film crew to a location recently and they had all their pro gear. When they came underground with us they used a combination of an iphone in 1080 and a gopro. They said nothing beats these cameras for video and compactness underground! I was stunned!
Just a pity I don't like Apple because combined with the lidar function you can create incredible scans/surveys of spaces!
Another thing I should add is I am very dissapointed with the extras when you swipe right. It seems you used to be able to add extra camera functions but I have not worked out how... Is it possible?

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