Hey xda~ :laugh: noobynoob here and I got a few questions about overclocking, here we go:
1. Is it safe?
Just bought a Note 2 N7100 and got it in a bootloop [scared me senseless, thank god i fixed it]
2. Kernels?
Um what are kernels and what do they differ?
3.Are all kernels for overclocking compatible for my device/rom?:fingers-crossed:
Note 2 N7100 with Dr.Ketan's Custom Rom v10.0 android version 4.4.2 (I currently have my eyes on this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001838)
4.What kernel do you guys recommend (in case this one isnt compatible or if you just know a better one):victory:
I'm open to suggestions, I just want whats best for my phone
5.If something goes wrong flashing the kernel is there a chance I get bricked/stuck in a bootloop?
already messed up once when trying to flash my custom rom, im afraid itll happen again
ThanQ :laugh:
OmarKnows said:
Hey xda~ :laugh: noobynoob here and I got a few questions about overclocking, here we go:
1. Is it safe?
Just bought a Note 2 N7100 and got it in a bootloop [scared me senseless, thank god i fixed it]
2. Kernels?
Um what are kernels and what do they differ?
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The kernel, in the simplest terms, is the piece of software in the operating system that tells the OS how to use the hardware.
Custom kernels typically take the stock kernel and modify the settings, and/or add features and setting parameters (often ported from other custom kernels).
3.Are all kernels for overclocking compatible for my device/rom?:fingers-crossed:
Note 2 N7100 with Dr.Ketan's Custom Rom v10.0 (I currently have my eyes on this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001838)
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I don't know. It's your responsibility to make sure it's compatible. I know Samsung makes many different versions of their Notes and Galaxy XS models (for different carriers, different regions of the world, etc), so a kernel for one version of the Note 2 might not work with your Note 2.
Further, just like it is with computer processors, not all are created equal. After manufacturing, processors are tested sorted into "bins" (literally) according to how well they work. Typically processors are all underclocked below their potential to some degree. That way they're not maxed out and overheating won't be a problem. Since they're underclocked, that means they can be overclocked to their true potential, but how far is a roll of the dice. One guy's Note 2 might have a processor from a higher bin and stably overclockable to 1.9GHz. Or you might have gotten one from a lower bin, and all you can OC it to is 1.7GHz. OC'ing too far will cause glitches and crashes.
4.What kernel do you guys recommend (in case this one isnt compatible or if you just know a better one):victory:
I'm open to suggestions, I just want whats best for my phone
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I can't help you with that. It's best that you just read up on the kernel(s) you want to try, and by "read", I mean start from the first post, and read every post until you've read them all. That way you know about possible problems and how to sort them out if you encounter them.
5.If something goes wrong flashing the kernel is there a chance I get bricked/stuck in a bootloop?
already messed up once when trying to flash my custom rom, im afraid itll happen again
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If you have a custom ROM, that means you have a custom recovery (TWRP, CWM, etc). From within the recovery you can do what's called a nandroid backup. It probably won't be labeled as "nandroid" (even though that's what we call it), but just a backup. This creates an "image" of your phone as it is when you run the backup. Store it on your SD card or PC (or both). If something goes wrong, you should still be able to reboot into recovery and restore your backup. Or, if you have a copy of your current kernel (custom ROMs sometimes have their own kernels, and might be available to download), you can just reflash the old kernel in recovery.
ThanQ
hmmm I guess ill need to read up more, I read on the kernels page something about needing a touchwiz based rom? what does that mean and how do I tell if my rom is tocuh based? As for that backup idea, that seems pretty useful, im gonna do that right now
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hmmm I guess ill need to read up more, I read on the kernels page something about needing a touchwiz based rom? what does that mean and how do I tell if my rom is tocuh based? As for that backup idea, that seems pretty useful, im gonna do that right now
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TouchWiz is what Samsung calls its interfaces.
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Hello xda. My friend recently ordered an one s and he asked me to make his phone good. I'm from another forum(u8800pro) and i post ROMs there so i don't have the time to work on this phone and I'm asking you here.
1)Is there any 4.2 ROM? If so is it stable?
2)In case he wants 4.1.x what's the best option for a guy that knows NOTHING about android?
3)Which is the best kernel for 4.1.x?
4)Which is the most stable ROM for daily use and hard gaming anyway?
5)How to root it?
6)Which recoveries are available for this phone?
7)What is the ROM flashing method for this phone and what is hboot?
8)What is needed to flash a ROM on the phone exactly as it comes out of the box?
Any help is appreciated because the phone will arrive in 2-3 days.
-UPDATE its an S4
Thanks in advance!
SvTeam said:
Hello xda. My friend recently ordered an one s and he asked me to make his phone good. I'm from another forum(u8800pro) and i post ROMs there so i don't have the time to work on this phone and I'm asking you here.
1)Is there any 4.2 ROM? If so is it stable?
2)In case he wants 4.1.x what's the best option for a guy that knows NOTHING about android?
3)Which is the best kernel for 4.1.x?
4)Which is the most stable ROM for daily use and hard gaming anyway?
5)How to root it?
6)Which recoveries are available for this phone?
7)What is the ROM flashing method for this phone and what is hboot?
8)What is needed to flash a ROM on the phone exactly as it comes out of the box?
Any help is appreciated because the phone will arrive in 2-3 days.
Thanks in advance!
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To answer any of this you first need to know if it's a S3 or S4.
Because this determines which ROMs or recoverys you can flash.
Sent from my HTC One S running TrickDroid 4.0
Schlengge said:
To answer any of this you first need to know if it's a S3 or S4.
Because this determines which ROMs or recoverys you can flash.
Sent from my HTC One S running TrickDroid 4.0
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It's a S4.
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It's a S4.
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CM10 would be your best bet then and you will need to fastboot the boot.img and TWRP is the best recovery to use.
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CM10 would be your best bet then and you will need to fastboot the boot.img and TWRP is the best recovery to use.
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I'll never understand the deal with CM.
Personally I dont like it at all. There seems to always be at least one important feature not working properly.
I go against the stream and say, if hes not used to android I think rooted stock with maybe a different kernel would be more than enough for him.
The only downside with stock rom is that it lacks features for the more advanced users (like the majority on this site ).
Other than that the stock is actually pretty damn good.
Its by far the best stock rom Ive encountered, but this is my first HTC device though (unless you count my old QTek 9100 )
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I'll never understand the deal with CM.
Personally I dont like it at all. There seems to always be at least one important feature not working properly.
I go against the stream and say, if hes not used to android I think rooted stock with maybe a different kernel would be more than enough for him.
The only downside with stock rom is that it lacks features for the more advanced users (like the majority on this site ).
Other than that the stock is actually pretty damn good.
Its by far the best stock rom Ive encountered, but this is my first HTC device though (unless you count my old QTek 9100 )
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For me Sense is over the top but I do kinder like it.
Hi guys. I've been following both the android and original android development sections of the OPO forum and have found no kernel that can overclock the OnePlus One running stock (rooted and BL unlocked) CM11s.
So, my question is very simple: is there any kernel that overclocks CM11s? (Yes, i know it is plenty fast already, the only purpose i have for it is bragging rights at the bar TBFH and to see how far it can go)
There is currently no custom kernel with overclocking features that will boot on CM11S.
If you really want it then you can go and flash a custom ROM and flash a kernel such as ak kernel which does have overclocking up to 2880MHz.
Do not flash ak kernel while on 11S, your phone will not boot.
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There is currently no custom kernel with overclocking features that will boot on CM11S.
If you really want it then you can go and flash a custom ROM and flash a kernel such as ak kernel which does have overclocking up to 2880MHz.
Do not flash ak kernel while on 11S, your phone will not boot.
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Thank you for you answer. Yes, I realize it wont boot on CM11S. infact, that is the first warning you read upon seeing the kernel.
I guess I will have to wait, since I think CM11S is by far the best ROM for the OnePlus... I had already installed 5 different roms on it and flashed furnace kernel only to see no difference in benchmarks (i think it's because it throttles, even though i stuck it in the cooler)
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Thank you for you answer. Yes, I realize it wont boot on CM11S. infact, that is the first warning you read upon seeing the kernel.
I guess I will have to wait, since I think CM11S is by far the best ROM for the OnePlus... I had already installed 5 different roms on it and flashed furnace kernel only to see no difference in benchmarks (i think it's because it throttles, even though i stuck it in the cooler)
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Benchmarks mean absolutely nothing. Its all about day-to-day performance. Custom ROMs are better in my opinion because currently on 11S there are numerous crucial bugs that are affecting the phone from being used. Just to name some,
- In-call audio volume fixed.
- Some workarounds on the touchscreen problem.
... the list goes on and on but I don't feel like explaining all of them but custom ROMs offer a lot more features than what stock has to offer plus they give you a sneak preview of whats to come in the next OTA without having to wait for it.
The decision is up to you, they're all free after all. Thats the joy of custom ROMs and kernels
Hi guys looking at getting the idol 3 5.5 just a couple of questions
Can someone tell me what the different model numbers are as far as I know there are 4 different variants of the idol 3
Also I'm looking to keep to a stock rom based rom which one is best to use or should I just root and stick to the stock rom anyways as all I really want to do is remove system apps I don't use and install viper4android lol
Thanks
Hello,
The problem is with the 5 models (6045I,6045Y,6045O,6045K,6045B they are 99% same, i think the diference is in kernel/radio/dual sim).
so there are lot of custom roms, but the problem is, that they are only builds by fans and not really a developers (except "Unjustified Dev" which is the only one real developer here so far). so they just build the rom and cannot do much about the problems. This ends in many builds (CM, PAC, LEWA... ) all are CM based builds, there are also a lot of kernels,. the problem is nobody really knows what are the diference.
For someone is kernel " x" working for someone not etc.
So thats the reason i am on stock.
I managed to find, that TCL i806 is alcatel idol3 (TCL is the owner company of Alcatel). So i get the stock firmware for i806 and made some mods. Its probably the nearest to stock firmware. The only problem is, that it includes kernel, thats 100% working with 6045Y. You can try to boot it on your own device, but for suer to flash (not boot) TWRP recovery, make full backup and also download the other kernels, so you can swap them in TWRP.
If all things go well we should have android Marshmallow start rolling out in june.
DallasCZ said:
Hello,
The problem is with the 5 models (6045I,6045Y,6045O,6045K,6045B they are 99% same, i think the diference is in kernel/radio/dual sim).
so there are lot of custom roms, but the problem is, that they are only builds by fans and not really a developers (except "Unjustified Dev" which is the only one real developer here so far). so they just build the rom and cannot do much about the problems. This ends in many builds (CM, PAC, LEWA... ) all are CM based builds, there are also a lot of kernels,. the problem is nobody really knows what are the diference.
For someone is kernel " x" working for someone not etc.
So thats the reason i am on stock.
I managed to find, that TCL i806 is alcatel idol3 (TCL is the owner company of Alcatel). So i get the stock firmware for i806 and made some mods. Its probably the nearest to stock firmware. The only problem is, that it includes kernel, thats 100% working with 6045Y. You can try to boot it on your own device, but for suer to flash (not boot) TWRP recovery, make full backup and also download the other kernels, so you can swap them in TWRP.
If all things go well we should have android Marshmallow start rolling out in june.
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thanks fro the reply i was looking at flashing your rom anyways lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/development/rom-6045-i806-dcz-stock-oc-kernel-root-t3257511 :good:
i mainly just want all the bloatware off and to be rooted and twrp then should be good to go
when i get my idol 3 hopefully in next couple of days when it arrives ill install your rom
how do you find the phone i know its not a power house, i dont game or anything i mainly want a good display good sound and a decent camera :laugh:
and i assume that all the different models should work with your rom
thanks again
brockyneo said:
thanks fro the reply i was looking at flashing your rom anyways lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/development/rom-6045-i806-dcz-stock-oc-kernel-root-t3257511 :good:
i mainly just want all the bloatware off and to be rooted and twrp then should be good to go
when i get my idol 3 hopefully in next couple of days when it arrives ill install your rom
how do you find the phone i know its not a power house, i dont game or anything i mainly want a good display good sound and a decent camera :laugh:
and i assume that all the different models should work with your rom
thanks again
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then alcatel Idol3 is what you need..good display, fabulous sound and decent camera.
DallasCZ said:
then alcatel Idol3 is what you need..good display, fabulous sound and decent camera.
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thanks for the reply well ive ordered it and its coming tomorrow its the 6045Y version so am i right in saying i should be able to just install your rom no problem and i dont need to install the different kernel
also what kernel are you using as ill properly use the same one lol
sorry one last question do i unlock my bootloader as well before root ect
thanks again for your help
6045Y is same model as mine. So unlock bootloader and then flash TWRP recovery, make backup, flash my rom. I allready included overclocked ARDE team kernel. If you have some problems (freezes, reboots) then probably your SoC isnt capable of holding the OC, then just launch the kernel adiutor and lower the frquencies.
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6045Y is same model as mine. So unlock bootloader and then flash TWRP recovery, make backup, flash my rom. I allready included overclocked ARDE team kernel. If you have some problems (freezes, reboots) then probably your SoC isnt capable of holding the OC, then just launch the kernel adiutor and lower the frquencies.
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thanks will do is your rom the latest version that alcatel has released (in other words should i be able to flash your rom from any version of stock thats on my phone) and great ill just flash your rom and happy days lol
does xposed work ok on the idol 3 and if so what version do we flash
again thanks for your help carnt wait till tomorrow now
i dont use xposed, but should work without problems (have tried months ago). and also download mobile uphrade q v. 5.0.6 (its also on my google drive). its the alcatel app to get you to stock if something goes wrong. Also in my unlock bootloader thread is a bat file which makes all partition backup of your phone.
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i dont use xposed, but should work without problems (have tried months ago). and also download mobile uphrade q v. 5.0.6 (its also on my google drive). its the alcatel app to get you to stock if something goes wrong. Also in my unlock bootloader thread is a bat file which makes all partition backup of your phone.
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hi ive recieved the phone and well impressed so far
im up to backing up the stock rom just wondering what do i back up in TWRP and believe is or not ive never backed up before but thought now is a good time to start lol
Hi guys
I have a old Moto g 1st gen (xt1032)
And been trying to get it running now but with not much luck.
The bootloader is unlocked and twrp installed and I installed a stock rom but it keep crashing about once or twice a day so I formatted everything and installed another rom can't remember the name right now but was comparable for my model .
And that won't get passed the black "android" screen
So been looking into it and people mention kernels but I haven't got a clue about them tbh so how can I tell which kernel I need or do they suit all ROMs
Can anyone suggest a matching kernel and rom
Cheers
steve.loveday said:
Hi guys
I have a old Moto g 1st gen (xt1032)
And been trying to get it running now but with not much luck.
The bootloader S unlocked and twrp installed and I installed a stock rom but it keep crashing about once or twice a day so I formatted everything and installed another rom can't remember the name right now but was comparable for my model .
And that won't get passed the black "android" screen
So been looking into it and people mention kernels but I haven't got a clue about them tbh so how can I tell which kernel I need or do they suit all ROMs
Can anyone suggest a matching kernel and rom
Cheers
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I'm a lot really late but just a try a few different ROMs and make sure they say XT1032 or Falcon. ID crisis and Exodus are good 6.x ROM that are very stable. As for kernels, unless you really want to do some low level tweaks that require kernel intergretaion like Overclock, DT2W, CPU governer, etc., I wouldn't worry about it.
If you DO want a kernel I can't recommend ZERO Byte kernel by @BryanByteZ enough. Under volt/clock and over/volt clock, DT2W, it's got everything. Works great with Exodus
Mattwmaster58 said:
I'm a lot really late but just a try a few different ROMs and make sure they say XT1032 or Falcon. ID crisis and Exodus are good 6.x ROM that are very stable. As for kernels, unless you really want to do some low level tweaks that require kernel intergretaion like Overclock, DT2W, CPU governer, etc., I wouldn't worry about it.
If you DO want a kernel I can't recommend ZERO Byte kernel by @BryanByteZ enough. Under volt/clock and over/volt clock, DT2W, it's got everything. Works great with Exodus
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Thanks for the recommendation but i dont have overvolt
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steve.loveday said:
Hi guys
I have a old Moto g 1st gen (xt1032)
And been trying to get it running now but with not much luck.
The bootloader S unlocked and twrp installed and I installed a stock rom but it keep crashing about once or twice a day so I formatted everything and installed another rom can't remember the name right now but was comparable for my model .
And that won't get passed the black "android" screen
So been looking into it and people mention kernels but I haven't got a clue about them tbh so how can I tell which kernel I need or do they suit all ROMs
Can anyone suggest a matching kernel and rom
Cheers
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Sooo about that a good start is to flash the latest stock 5.1 then flash twrp and choose a 6.X rom (based on cm13) and that depends of your likes and wishes if you want a stable like rock rom i recommend AOSP+OMS 6.X/EXODUS/VanirAOSP if you want customizations there is Ressurection Remix,Dirty Unicorns and others, you just "need" to flash other kernel if you want more advanced features. This is just a recommendation for roms but lucky we have Kitkat,lollipop,marshmallow and nougat roms.
Thanks for the replies guys
I'm beginning to think I have a hardware problem on the phone.
I installed 3 versions of stock 5.1 on it last night
Eu,Brazil,and US I think they were they all install without errors
But only the Eu one boots up the other 2 stay on the "android" black screen.
The one that does boot us unstable though and crashes quite often .
That's why I thought about kernels and maybe it was that as I'm not sure if I need a certain one on my phone or any compatible one will do.
BryanByteZ said:
Thanks for the recommendation but i dont have overvolt [/QOUTE]
Oh...Woops
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steve.loveday said:
Thanks for the replies guys
I'm beginning to think I have a hardware problem on the phone.
I installed 3 versions of stock 5.1 on it last night
Eu,Brazil,and US I think they were they all install without errors
But only the Eu one boots up the other 2 stay on the "android" black screen.
The one that does boot us unstable though and crashes quite often .
That's why I thought about kernels and maybe it was that as I'm not sure if I need a certain one on my phone or any compatible one will do.
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Well I already passed on that I change my bootloader to the one from BR stock 5.1 and now everything works fine. Try to change data partition to f2fs file system.
Hi guys,
I always read in the Xda forum but never wrote or asked a question...usually someone already asked them.
so I have the Mi 5S PLUS...but I hate the miui UI. can't get used to it. And yesterday I finally found that there are custom ROM for this device.
So I got few questions.
1. As far as i know, the source code hasnt been released but should be released soon. should I wait for a ROM that uses the source code?
2. I see that the most popular costum ROMs for this device are - Lineage and resurrection remix. In terms of battery life, stability and bug free rom. which one is the best?
3. I see there is one ROM with the tag [OFFICIAL]....does this mean it uses the source code? if not, what does it mean?
thanks a lot to those that answer
eliko2000 said:
Hi guys,
I always read in the Xda forum but never wrote or asked a question...usually someone already asked them.
so I have the Mi 5S PLUS...but I hate the miui UI. can't get used to it. And yesterday I finally found that there are custom ROM for this device.
So I got few questions.
1. As far as i know, the source code hasnt been released but should be released soon. should I wait for a ROM that uses the source code?
2. I see that the most popular costum ROMs for this device are - Lineage and resurrection remix. In terms of battery life, stability and bug free rom. which one is the best?
3. I see there is one ROM with the tag [OFFICIAL]....does this mean it uses the source code? if not, what does it mean?
thanks a lot to those that answer
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1. Source code is released but rom based on source code are not released yet .You can use them but their are some bugs,
2.You can check yourself
3. Official means official rom from lineage team or other maintainers just like Global MIUI rom from xiaomi is official while xiaomi.eu is unofficial .
You can check for source in rom page for more info about what device tree and source code it uses
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1. Source code is released but rom based on source code are not released yet .You can use them but their are some bugs,
2.You can check yourself
3. Official means official rom from lineage team or other maintainers just like Global MIUI rom from xiaomi is official while xiaomi.eu is unofficial .
You can check for source in rom page for more info about what device tree and source code it uses
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Thanks for the answers. But I asked because I prefer to install one and that's it. and if someone used the both ..why not to hear opinions.
I recomend RR
eliko2000 said:
Thanks for the answers. But I asked because I prefer to install one and that's it. and if someone used the both ..why not to hear opinions.
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The reason that people don't recommend one over the other is because YMMV. I know I came from a cyanogen ROM with my previous phone and dirty unicorns on the phoen before that (along with a whole set of custom ROMs). In the end though, I found them all to be "similar". Yes, some do some things differently like some offer a lot of CPU governors, while others keep the list pretty tight. Some default with swap space on, some don't use swap space at all (this phone shouldn't need swap space). Sometimes the difference between two ROMs is just the launcher.
For me, I don't really like the MIUI launcher. It feels a lot like an iphone. This isn't a bad thing. Some people like it. I just install Apex (from the play store) and my issues with the ROM were mostly resolved. The only remaining problem is MASS STORAGE. But, based on my experience with mly previous phone, I doubt I'll find a ROM that natively supports it. But I know how to hack my way in and get that going (just need root... which requires an unlocked bootloader... and if I am reading things correctly, you need to wipe everything which I currently not willing to do... but may have found a workaround... going to test it out tomorrow).
bmg002 said:
The reason that people don't recommend one over the other is because YMMV. I know I came from a cyanogen ROM with my previous phone and dirty unicorns on the phoen before that (along with a whole set of custom ROMs). In the end though, I found them all to be "similar". Yes, some do some things differently like some offer a lot of CPU governors, while others keep the list pretty tight. Some default with swap space on, some don't use swap space at all (this phone shouldn't need swap space). Sometimes the difference between two ROMs is just the launcher.
For me, I don't really like the MIUI launcher. It feels a lot like an iphone. This isn't a bad thing. Some people like it. I just install Apex (from the play store) and my issues with the ROM were mostly resolved. The only remaining problem is MASS STORAGE. But, based on my experience with mly previous phone, I doubt I'll find a ROM that natively supports it. But I know how to hack my way in and get that going (just need root... which requires an unlocked bootloader... and if I am reading things correctly, you need to wipe everything which I currently not willing to do... but may have found a workaround... going to test it out tomorrow).
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Wipe everything is very simple connect the phone via USB cable to PC and via twrp wipe everything then past a Rom on the phone and flash it, that's it
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Wipe everything is very simple connect the phone via USB cable to PC and via twrp wipe everything then past a Rom on the phone and flash it, that's it
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Wiping everything is easy, yes, but I want to avoid wiping if I don't have to.
Got the phone rooted without needing to wipe it (yay), but getting mass storage enabled failed on me. I can't seem to write to the file I need to which confuses me... but that is off topic so I'll refrain from boring you with details on that.
Back on topic, if you are switching to a custom ROM you will need to wipe things. I personally would wait for a custom kernel to come out before you start playing with custom ROMs unless the custom ROM has a feature you REALLY want. With my previous phones, the one that had a custom Kernel as well as custom ROMs was a lot more stable and had a lot fewer bugs. The one that had only factory kernel, the custom ROMs were flaky. They mostly worked, but they did have bugs. If I got a phone call or called somebody and they hung up first, it would crash the dialer and the dialer would fail to start again until I rebooted. Now a custom kernel may not have helped that, but since the kernel was based on a previous version of Android, it was unstable.
The current custom ROMs (that I have seen) are all based off of the stock kernel and not newer ones so I personally do not expect to see much benefit in changing ROMs except having different bloat and a different launcher. Well, at lest for the things I use my phone for. But YMMV.