Is Mahdi-Rom AOSP or CM (CAF) based?
I've been researching of this for the whole night last night but keep on finding mixed answer.
and now I'm hoping for you guys to answer me...i wanted to install elemental x but don't know which version to install aosp or cm
and will franco kernel be comparable since its for aosp?
Thanks soooo much to who ever answer this...!
matthewle96 said:
Is Mahdi-Rom AOSP or CM (CAF) based?
I've been researching of this for the whole night last night but keep on finding mixed answer.
and now I'm hoping for you guys to answer me...i wanted to install elemental x but don't know which version to install aosp or cm
and will franco kernel be comparable since its for aosp?
Thanks soooo much to who ever answer this...!
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Its AOSP with CAF stuff in it. Just flash one and if it doesn't boot reflash the ROM and flash the other.
Thanks
Lethargy said:
Its AOSP with CAF stuff in it. Just flash one and if it doesn't boot reflash the ROM and flash the other.
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so just to make sure that franco is FULLY comparable with this rom?
matthewle96 said:
so just to make sure that franco is FULLY comparable with this rom?
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Make a backup, flash. If it doesn't boot then it isn't compatible.
matthewle96 said:
so just to make sure that franco is FULLY comparable with this rom?
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make a backup in recovery and just flash the darn kernel. if its not compatible, it wont boot. then you can either flash a known booting kernel or restore the backup you made in recovery. that's the quickest way to find your answer.
simms22 said:
make a backup in recovery and just flash the darn kernel. if its not compatible, it wont boot. then you can either flash a known booting kernel or restore the backup you made in recovery. that's the quickest way to find your answer.
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thanks
Haha this really is a good question though. I myself didn't know either. I had been under the impression it was full AOSP.
Last time I ran Franco kernel on it though all was fine.
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TheLastSidekick said:
Haha this really is a good question though. I myself didn't know either. I had been under the impression it was full AOSP.
Last time I ran Franco kernel on it though all was fine.
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Quite a few ROMs say AOSP but have CAF parts lol. Rarely are ROMs full CAF though, the only one that I know of is CM of course. Some AOSP kernels work with hybrids and some only do after modification.
An AOSP Dalvik will only boot up on full AOSP ROMs so it the Z2 Dalvik boots, it's full AOSP. If a CAF Dalvik boots, it's either hybrid or full. Nice way to tell
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Quite a few ROMs say AOSP but have CAF parts lol. Rarely are ROMs full CAF though, the only one that I know of is CM of course. Some AOSP kernels work with hybrids and some only do after modification.
An AOSP Dalvik will only boot up on full AOSP ROMs so it the Z2 Dalvik boots, it's full AOSP. If a CAF Dalvik boots, it's either hybrid or full. Nice way to tell
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Ah thanks. I never really messed with the custom dalvik because I didn't see anything other benchmark gains.
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TheLastSidekick said:
Ah thanks. I never really messed with the custom dalvik because I didn't see anything other benchmark gains.
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Some people say general usage is slightly better, some say it doesn't help in general ui. Experience varies. Lol.
I ran mahdi rom for a long time use aosp kernel caf will not boot
Franco Kernel on OPO?
Any update on whether Franco Kernel is compatible with this CM based Mahdi rom on the OnePlus One?
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Whenever I try and flash Franco R32 to any recent CM11 nightlies or M3, I brick the phone. It boots and sits with the Google logo on the screen. I heard a rumor CM broke compatibility with Franco. Can we expect an update from Franco? it's been awhile since we have seen an updated kernal. Suggested Roms or Kernels to use?
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Whenever I try and flash Franco R32 to any recent CM11 nightlies or M3, I brick the phone. It boots and sits with the Google logo on the screen. I heard a rumor CM broke compatibility with Franco. Can we expect an update from Franco? it's been awhile since we have seen an updated kernal. Suggested Roms or Kernels to use?
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Chaos kernel supports CM, always look for a kernel that says CAF for CM roms. Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551441.
gee2012 said:
Chaos kernel supports CM, always look for a kernel that says CAF for CM. Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551441.
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Thanks. How is the battery life on Chaos?
noutoo said:
Thanks. How is the battery life on Chaos?
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Try it. It was always good for me but I cant tell you how good it will be for you.
noutoo said:
Thanks. How is the battery life on Chaos?
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No idea, i` am still on stock and not rooted I`am sure you can read about batterylife in the Chaos thread.
Hello community,
I am a rookie in the subject of kernels/roms and I would love to have some precious help from any1 that knows even the smallest of information. I recently installed CM kernel and CM nightly 0422. The thing is, I read in many forums (in here as well) that there is a kernel that can boost battery life to its max, Franco Kernel. But I also read that it is somehow incompatible with CM 10+ and causes bootloop if you install it with CM already in phone. What I can't understand is why can't I just simply replace CM kernel (like stock kernel was replaced by CM kernel) by Franco Kernel? What is the fact that I am missing?
ALL (and I mean ALL) help will be highly appreaciated, thanks for your time
T.
f33d_me_plz said:
Hello community,
I am a rookie in the subject of kernels/roms and I would love to have some precious help from any1 that knows even the smallest of information. I recently installed CM kernel and CM nightly 0422. The thing is, I read in many forums (in here as well) that there is a kernel that can boost battery life to its max, Franco Kernel. But I also read that it is somehow incompatible with CM 10+ and causes bootloop if you install it with CM already in phone. What I can't understand is why can't I just simply replace CM kernel (like stock kernel was replaced by CM kernel) by Franco Kernel? What is the fact that I am missing?
ALL (and I mean ALL) help will be highly appreaciated, thanks for your time
T.
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first off.. there is no magic pill to give your phone for battery life. battery life mostly depends on your personal usage, your personal setup, your apps used, and most importantly the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else is minor for battery life, including kernels.
cm uses CAF as its base now, they went away from aosp(like most kernels here). so everything that is aosp based is not compatible with cm anymore. franco kernel is aosp based(most kernels are). there are a few kernels that are CAF based built just for cm and cm based roms.
simms22 said:
first off.. there is no magic pill to give your phone for battery life. battery life mostly depends on your personal usage, your personal setup, your apps used, and most importantly the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else is minor for battery life, including kernels.
cm uses CAF as its base now, they went away from aosp(like most kernels here). so everything that is aosp based is not compatible with cm anymore. franco kernel is aosp based(most kernels are). there are a few kernels that are CAF based built just for cm and cm based roms.
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Thanks for your time and your answer
First of all, I know for myself that there is no magic pill about battery life, I just read in too many threads that FK added a good portion of battery life (with same use of phone like when it had CM) ! Moreover it allows you to overclock (my) Nexus5 beyond 2.2GHz, something that CM doesn't allow you too (I know that overclocking kills battery, I just want to test something). What I don't understand is how can FK mess up with CM when both are different kernels and by installing FK over CM means that FK replaces CM. There is no CM in the end, only FK. Or not...? What have I understood wrong?
Thanks again
f33d_me_plz said:
Thanks for your time and your answer
First of all, I know for myself that there is no magic pill about battery life, I just read in too many threads that FK added a good portion of battery life (with same use of phone like when it had CM) ! Moreover it allows you to overclock (my) Nexus5 beyond 2.2GHz, something that CM doesn't allow you too (I know that overclocking kills battery, I just want to test something). What I don't understand is how can FK mess up with CM when both are different kernels and by installing FK over CM means that FK replaces CM. There is no CM in the end, only FK. Or not...? What have I understood wrong?
Thanks again
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yes, franco would replace cm kernel if all worked right. but what you are doing is replacing cm kernel with franco kernel, but cm rom stays on your phone. franco kernel is incompatible with cm rom. since franco is aosp and cm is caf, your phone would never boot up all the way.
simms22 said:
yes, franco would replace cm kernel if all worked right. but what you are doing is replacing cm kernel with franco kernel, but cm rom stays on your phone. franco kernel is incompatible with cm rom. since franco is aosp and cm is caf, your phone would never boot up all the way.
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So, if I am getting your point right, since one is aosp and the other is caf THAT is the reason why CM doesn't uninstall and will exist together with franco? Is there a way to permanently delete CM in order to install franco? Maybe to go back to stock kernel then install FK?
f33d_me_plz said:
So, if I am getting your point right, since one is aosp and the other is caf THAT is the reason why CM doesn't uninstall and will exist together with franco? Is there a way to permanently delete CM in order to install franco? Maybe to go back to stock kernel then install FK?
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its not about the kernel, its about the rom. they are different things. when you flash a kernel(any), it replaces the kernel thats on your phone(kernels come with roms, cm kernel with cm rom). cm rom includes cm kernel, both are built from caf source. franco kernel is aosp, it is not compatible with cm rom. it has nothing to do with cm kernel, it replaces cm kernel when flashed. but you will never boot up your phone because it isnt compatible with cm rom.
simms22 said:
its not about the kernel, its about the rom. they are different things. when you flash a kernel(any), it replaces the kernel thats on your phone(kernels come with roms, cm kernel with cm rom). cm rom includes cm kernel, both are built from caf source. franco kernel is aosp, it is not compatible with cm rom. it has nothing to do with cm kernel, it replaces cm kernel when flashed. but you will never boot up your phone because it isnt compatible with cm rom.
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ok, finally I got it, thanks to you Last question... is there a way to get FK now or am I just locked to caf due to CM "for life"? which way (if there is any at all) in your opinion is the best way to go from CM to FK? maybe go back to stock rom/kernel then flash FK? Will this work?
f33d_me_plz said:
ok, finally I got it, thanks to you Last question... is there a way to get FK now or am I just locked to caf due to CM "for life"? which way (if there is any at all) in your opinion is the best way to go from CM to FK? maybe go back to stock rom/kernel then flash FK? Will this work?
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no, they arent compatible at all. you can not use franco kernel with any cm based roms. you can change roms and use franco kernel with it, any aosp rom or even the stock rom. but cm isnt compatible at all with franko kernel.
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no, they arent compatible at all. you can not use franco kernel with any cm based roms. you can change roms and use franco kernel with it, any aosp rom or even the stock rom. but cm isnt compatible at all with franko kernel.
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Thanks man !!
f33d_me_plz said:
Thanks man !!
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If your looking for a good CAF kernel to run with a PAC or CM based ROM. I'd recommend the ElementalX CAF kernel. It's very stable, rich features, great performance and great battery life. Make sure to read the OP for directions and if you decide to try it out download the ElementalX R38 version with the aromma installer (not the express version) As with running any new kernel run it for a few days minimum to allow for it by on settle in.
There is another option for you to explore too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/cm11-users-heres-how-aospnon-caf-t2626961
This allows you to run a script that will basically De-CAF your rom and allow you to run a AOSP kernel on CM11ROMs.. Be sure to read the OP. It works with many CM11 and CM based ROMs, but not on all the newest versions. Definitely worth checking out.
xdrc45 said:
If your looking for a good CAF kernel to run with a PAC or CM based ROM. I'd recommend the ElementalX CAF kernel. It's very stable, rich features, great performance and great battery life. Make sure to read the OP for directions and if you decide to try it out download the ElementalX R38 version with the aromma installer (not the express version) As with running any new kernel run it for a few days minimum to allow for it by on settle in.
There is another option for you to explore too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/cm11-users-heres-how-aospnon-caf-t2626961
This allows you to run a script that will basically De-CAF your rom and allow you to run a AOSP kernel on CM11ROMs.. Be sure to read the OP. It works with many CM11 and CM based ROMs, but not on all the newest versions. Definitely worth checking out.
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Thanks for your interest and time! I will sure check both your ROM and the De-CAF script soon and post my opinion/experience ! For newbies like me that are reading this post, here is a quite enbrightening thread about CAF and qualcomm processors (although it's Reddit, it's quite explanatory).
Peace!
T.
f33d_me_plz said:
Thanks for your interest and time! I will sure check both your ROM and the De-CAF script soon and post my opinion/experience ! For newbies like me that are reading this post, here is a quite enbrightening thread about CAF and qualcomm processors (although it's Reddit, it's quite explanatory).
Peace!
T.
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Sorry, I forgot to paste the link cheers ! http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rt9md/eli5_what_is_caf_why_is_cm_going_caf_affects_the/
Hi everyone,
I know this is probably a really nooby question, but im running the most recent nightly of cyanogenmod and i noticed it has its own kernel under About Phone. I would like to use faux kernel instead. Is it safe to flash faux kernel over the top of it or will it mess things up? Thanks guys!
All ROMs have kernels. They can't work without one so this makes the rules of changing kernels with cm no different from any other Rom.
You're right though, it's a really nooby question. I'm not trying to offend but not knowing this means you're not ready for flashing kernels. Please read the sticky threads in Q&A and general to bump your knowledge up to the next level first
Fyi, cm use CAF kernels only so you can only Flash CAF kernels.
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you can flash any kernel you want.. but it doesnt mean that itll run. cyanogenmod uses caf for source, the moved away from aosp. so you can flash and run kernels based in caf, not aosp. faux kernel is an aosp kernel, so if you flash it you wont boot up.
Yeah, but only flash kernels for the n5. Flashing something else can brick it. If it's a caf based rom flash a caf kernel.
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rootSU said:
All ROMs have kernels. They can't work without one so this makes the rules of changing kernels with cm no different from any other Rom.
You're right though, it's a really nooby question. I'm not trying to offend but not knowing this means you're not ready for flashing kernels. Please read the sticky threads in Q&A and general to bump your knowledge up to the next level first
Fyi, cm use CAF kernels only so you can only Flash CAF kernels.
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Ive read the stickies. I wanted to be cautious because im new to cyanogen and i didnt wanna mess anything up. I was using Cataclysm with Faux so I didnt need to know about CAF kernels back then. Thanks for your help anyway
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you can flash any kernel you want.. but it doesnt mean that itll run. cyanogenmod uses caf for source, the moved away from aosp. so you can flash and run kernels based in caf, not aosp. faux kernel is an aosp kernel, so if you flash it you wont boot up.
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Yeah, but only flash kernels for the n5. Flashing something else can brick it. If it's a caf based rom flash a caf kernel.
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Alright got it. Ill have to go for a CAF kernel, thanks guys!
ProVickers said:
Ive read the stickies. I wanted to be cautious because im new to cyanogen and i didnt wanna mess anything up. I was using Cataclysm with Faux so I didnt need to know about CAF kernels back then. Thanks for your help anyway
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It's good to be cautious.
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rootSU said:
It's good to be cautious.
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right
Think I am going to go ahead and make a switch to Paranoid Android. I had been using Franco Kernel on stock, but it looks like that won't work with PA. Which are the most stable kernels that do work?
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Think I am going to go ahead and make a switch to Paranoid Android. I had been using Franco Kernel on stock, but it looks like that won't work with PA. Which are the most stable kernels that do work?
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wouldnt asking what kernels people use in the PA thread get you an answer the quickest?
Ive used Franco on PA for months. No problems
Why wouldn't Franco kernel work?
#stayparanoid
Pirateghost said:
Why wouldn't Franco kernel work?
#stayparanoid
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Its got an "o" in the name. I heard kernels with an "o" in their name aren't compatible
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Hey guys have anyone tried to or currently using F2FS on the phone? Do you think it's stable? If so how can I change to F2FS (cause for the love of god I can't find any guide)?
My friend recently change to F2FS on his Mi6X and it's absolutely feels different so I'm quite interested in this atm.
Thank you in advance!
Ethan140310 said:
Hey guys have anyone tried to or currently using F2FS on the phone? Do you think it's stable? If so how can I change to F2FS (cause for the love of god I can't find any guide)?
My friend recently change to F2FS on his Mi6X and it's absolutely feels different so I'm quite interested in this atm.
Thank you in advance!
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Goto the kernel ROMs section and look for arters thread. He has a guide on getting F2FS enabled on the data partition plus with his kernel. Recent reports show you're not bound to his kernel so you can experiment with what works and what doesn't.
Overall you won't expect that much of a performance jump since the OP6 is pretty great as it is but you can judge for yourself
I had the arter kernel with havoc os for a week and I didn't see any performance improvements, more so, the battery life got a LOT worse than with ext4. Also, you can't encrypt your phone with f2fs and twrp won't be bootable (unless you do it with fastboot boot).
Ethan140310 said:
Hey guys have anyone tried to or currently using F2FS on the phone? Do you think it's stable? If so how can I change to F2FS (cause for the love of god I can't find any guide)?
My friend recently change to F2FS on his Mi6X and it's absolutely feels different so I'm quite interested in this atm.
Thank you in advance!
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I'm using f2fs now... Very stable... Very fast... No bugs encountered so far.... Used f2fs with arter kernel on 9.0.4, then moved with it to Radioactive kernel without any problem.... And now using f2fs with Elemental X 3.11(3.10)... Verrrryyy STABLE... USE IT ONLY ON DATA... AND CAN FLASH EVERYTHING WITHOUT PROBLEMS...
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I'm using f2fs now... Very stable... Very fast... No bugs encountered so far.... Used f2fs with arter kernel on 9.0.4, then moved with it to Radioactive kernel without any problem.... And now using f2fs with Elemental X 3.11(3.10)... Verrrryyy STABLE... USE IT ONLY ON DATA... AND CAN FLASH EVERYTHING WITHOUT PROBLEMS...
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Hey man so what is your experience with ElementalX compared to arter kernel? I think arter is good since he build it from CAF but I also look for another kernel since I need Kcal, cuz iPhone screen spoiled me :v
Ethan140310 said:
Hey man so what is your experience with ElementalX compared to arter kernel? I think arter is good since he build it from CAF but I also look for another kernel since I need Kcal, cuz iPhone screen spoiled me :v
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What are you looking for in a kernel?
ElementalX is a very stable oriented kernel. Imagine it like a stock+ type of kernel that you can rely on. And if you like tweaking your own stuff it's perfect since you can do just about anything you need.
I personally have not used arters work but it's almost the opposite. He's moving away from the OP stock work since he disagrees with it. He does aim for better cleaner performance.
spartan268 said:
What are you looking for in a kernel?
ElementalX is a very stable oriented kernel. Imagine it like a stock+ type of kernel that you can rely on. And if you like tweaking your own stuff it's perfect since you can do just about anything you need.
I personally have not used arters work but it's almost the opposite. He's moving away from the OP stock work since he disagrees with it. He does aim for better cleaner performance.
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That's exactly where I'm confusing, OP stock or CAF stock (as Arter mentioned), I'm looking for battery life with stable and consistent performance (the OP is strong enough so I'm not looking forward to boosting it more)
I used Arters kernel and RZ, too with F2FS.
But at the end I stick with Smurf. Feels bit smoother at all.
so is there a howto
I tried changing it in twrp and rebooting and then just get dumped back into recovery.
chrcol said:
so is there a howto
I tried changing it in twrp and rebooting and then just get dumped back into recovery.
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The instructions are in Arter post in the Kernel thread, basically, you format your data as f2fs, and flash f2fa_fstab then boot.
Please look in the thread for detailed instructions
Ethan140310 said:
The instructions are in Arter post in the Kernel thread, basically, you format your data as f2fs, and flash f2fa_fstab then boot.
Please look in the thread for detailed instructions
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that didnt work either, his guide just boot loops recovery. But maybe his only works with his kernel.
But I tried the one in this thread again and it worked second time.