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hey there i have cm 4.2.5 right now and i want to update to current. do i need to update 4.2.6-4.2.9 individually or just update with the newest rom? thanks guys
You can just apply the newest one
this couldn't have gone in the existing cyanogen thread?
march83 said:
this couldn't have gone in the existing cyanogen thread?
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omg he created a new thread,,, lets beat him senseless,, dood grow up. lol. did you need to actually reply to this thread?
this is a user end question about a rom that already has a dedicated thread full of similar questions which is where they're meant to be. if every single question like this was asked in a new thread then no one would ever find the threads on roms and development that are the reason this forum exists. general user questions either go in the general sapphire forum or go in the existing threads. end of, move on.
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this is a user end question about a rom that already has a dedicated thread full of similar questions which is where they're meant to be. if every single question like this was asked in a new thread then no one would ever find the threads on roms and development that are the reason this forum exists. general user questions either go in the general sapphire forum or go in the existing threads. end of, move on.
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You think with 9 posts under your belt it would mean your saving them for posting something useful....obviously I'm wrong!
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dreckis604 said:
You think with 9 posts under your belt it would mean your saving them for posting something useful....obviously I'm wrong!
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He's right though. If people at least post redundant questions in the right thread, then they don't clutter up threads where they shouldn't have been asked at all.
It also makes it easier to find the answers if the questions aren't spread everywhere.
In this case, however, confusion easily arises when the Cyanogen thread is in the Dream forum and you own a Sapphire. Not immediately obvious where to ask relevant questions.
My own strategy is to provide a concise, clear, useful answer to the immediate question and also add ad vice about how to handle future questions. I don't really understand people who posting in response and neither help nor provide useful advice. That IS a waste of time.
wow was it really that big of a deal what a welcoming community
thanks to you guys that didnt give me **** and answered the simple question. I'll be more conscious of where i post next time
greensnow said:
wow was it really that big of a deal what a welcoming community
thanks to you guys that didnt give me **** and answered the simple question. I'll be more conscious of where i post next time
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People, including me, are a little bit sensitive about the development forum. This probably should've gone in the Q&A section as its not directly development related...also the cyanogenmod wiki is a very good resource that it seems a lot of new users don't know about.
You shouldn't be afraid to ask questions and I apologize that it has become like that. This community really is amazing.
Google, read the wiki, read the thread, post in Q and A, hit up #cyanogenmod on freenode, etc. There is a ton of support available - maybe steer clear of the dev forum - it gets ugly, as you've seen.
Welcome to XDA
Hi Dear Admin
Why can not I would post in this forum?
For example, the following forum threads:
Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development
Torres 9 said:
Hi Dear Admin
Why can not I would post in this forum?
For example, the following forum threads:
Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development
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Your post count is currently too low. You will be able to around 8 or 10 posts, no spam until then lmao. have fun and welcome aboard
I also cant post in the topic i want to ( darky's rom 9.3final )
i have a question i really want to ask there
I agree with these guys, it's not really a cool system we have to wait before asking questions.... it makes many days that I search the solution but I dont find it and I would like to post in a thread....
Same boat.
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mattlin32 said:
I agree with these guys, it's not really a cool system we have to wait before asking questions.... it makes many days that I search the solution but I dont find it and I would like to post in a thread....
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Guys,
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WAIT TO POST QUESTIONS
This is because questions DO NOT belong in the development forum. It is as simple as that. Let me define "not really cool". It's having to tell people NOT to post questions outwith the device Q&A section.
Post your questions THERE, NOWHERE ELSE.
Do NOT post questions in development.
Only posting in development is currently prevented. Make your thread in Q&A.
it makes many days that I search the solution
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- that's the point exactly. Search harder. The answer will be there. You just need to practice how to find it. Google is your friend.
getting there!
same... have to post 9 posts first, befere i can ask my question
voriand said:
same... have to post 9 posts first, befere i can ask my question
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Read my post above.
You do not need 10 posts to post questions. Post it in the Q&A section for your device.
XDA policy selects the USELESS posts
XDA policy selects the USELESS posts
pulser_g2 said:
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Only posting in development is currently prevented. Make your thread in Q&A.
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IOW:
1) When we are new (to HD2 in my case), hence have a lot of issues with no clue, even no idea what to search exactly, and are willing to spend the time to find the exact forum, thread, post, to which we should ask a question (I did it, amply), we are FORBIDDEN to ask the relevant question in the appropriate, efficient, polite place and manner; instead, we have to post in a remote forum (Q & A), where all questions will end garbaged altogether with plenty unrelated others, and far away, both from the ones who could reply and from the ones who would like to second an existing question rather than posting a "new" one. Hence your policy is increasing the number of doubled or irrelevant questions, and refraining the people who are usually carefully, politely and efficiently writing their posts, while encouraging the Fast Posters (the ones who post faster than they can think or verify what they write).
2) Only when we finally have learnt (after lengthy and painful research in this unfriendly atmosphere) the information we need, hence only when we have no more questions, can we post in the relevant forums. But since the newer ones still CANNOT post there, our new knowledge can answer no question and no people, hence is useless to others. This explains why there are so many fundamental questions that are still plaguing many users after 2 years, with plenty threads addressing them without answering them (because missing the way the questions happen in new users' minds) but still no thread exposing them clearly and efficiently.
Versailles, Mon 07 Mar 2011 19:06:30 +0100, edited 19:11:20
"Google is your friend" only denotes people UNABLE to build an efficient search
"Google is your friend" only denotes people UNABLE to build an efficient search
pulser_g2 said:
(Sun 06 Mar 2011 18:54 GMT)
Search harder. The answer will be there. You just need to practice how to find it. Google is your friend.
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Most people are Scarce Posters, IOW do search a lot, intelligently and carefully, before asking a question on a forum; so while numerous, they remain little visible. OTOH, the Fast Posters (the ones who post faster than they can think or verify what they write), needing no time before posting, do post a lot, hence look as more numerous than they actually are; and of course they have not often really tried to build really efficient searches (or they would know it can be done only when you already know a significant amount about your seek).
The invisible majority (Scarce Posters) do know that Forums' Search Engines most often fail, and that searching a Forum from Google, sure can be much more efficient, yet only with informed and carefully built search requests. The ones who require visitors to "search" while giving neither help nor hint about how and what to search, belong to the vocal minority of "Fast Posters" and have generally NOT tried themselves - or they would know the above, hence would belong to the "Scarce Posters".
IOW, really helpful people don't reply "Google is your friend", instead they post, after trying, tweaking and testing it, the exact search to do, for instance Google "How to flash 6.5.3 ROM on HD2 site:xda-developers.com". And as you can see, this particular search request, as carefully designed as it may be, is still far from the right one(s), because when you need it, you usually DON'T KNOW YET what to search; here, when I designed this one, I STILL IGNORED that I needed to download and install a BOOTLOADER, an HSPL, a RADIO, a ROM (and which one: a "3.14"? a "1.66"? What are those?), and possibly a MANILA and some other stuffs.
IOW, when you have written the appropriate search request, your problem is already almost completely researched, thought, defined, and solved. When someone is asking something on a forum, the one replying "Google is your friend" is essentially someone who is UNABLE to build a helpful search request (or he would just post it). Requiring from the visitor to search before asking is just, despite the appearances, putting the cart before the horse: unrealistic, illogical, unhelpful, and counterproductive.
I think the great resources on XDA Forums are hampered by a bad case of NIH and Resistance to change.
Versailles, Mon 07 Mar 2011 19:13:00 +0100, edited 19:19:25
What about questions about specific custom ROMs? Should they also be posted in the General Q&A sections of the device?
pulser_g2 said:
Read my post above.
You do not need 10 posts to post questions. Post it in the Q&A section for your device.
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Lol.. Thanks.. This solve my problem..
Well, the problem with forming a good search term is that most of the useful text is not so well written as to be easily searched. You can spend all day sorting through search results, trying to kraft THE perfect query, and still miss the web page that gives you the answer you need.
Can someone tell me the reason why i need 10 posts to post in developer forum?
Greets
Probably because they don't want people creating accounts and spamming those forums right off the bat. Keeping the dev forums more focused on getting things working than general chat and I need help etc. Just my view on it.
I thought it's stupid too, but after I realised how stupid people can be, I think it's a good idea. Just answer for a few questions here and you will have the 10 really soon.
thanks for posting this question so I can add another post to sum up to 10 or more posts to finally be able to participate where I would like to Rhobuntu on HTC TP2.
So silly - now they move from Ubuntu to Debian squeeze which is what I have running on my computer and next week I should have an HTC TP2 available for development only. Just - I cannot post !
Oh and I forgot the 5 minutes rule...
Too bad there is no icon for i$$ed
error_401 said:
Oh and I forgot the 5 minutes rule...
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There is a five minute rule to? Thought I read all the rules.
ok, i've got 10 posts now.
i'm still not allowed to post there! why? i really need to ask some questions there!
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ok, i've got 10 posts now.
i'm still not allowed to post there! why? i really need to ask some questions there!
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Don't tell me that!!
I've been posting around Q&A to reach those 10 posts because I want to ask and help on dev forums... :-(
Well, almost there, let me see what topic I can participate and then, if I keep being "blocked" off-of the dev forums...
There are very good reasons why the 10 post rule has been set up, a couple of which have been said above.
Why do you need to post in the dev section anyway? Are you a developer? If you arent and you create a new thread (question) it will probably get moved here.
If you are asking a question, the Q&A is the place
#justsayin
is right to by like this
I meant NOT right
I have 10 posts, why I still cannot post in the dev forum? need to aks about my issue
cska133 said:
I have 10 posts, why I still cannot post in the dev forum? need to aks about my issue
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Because your ten posts were not helpful, they were spammy. And if you have a question, ask it in Q&A NOT Development. How hard is that to understand?
well, the question concerns a curtain app, so I would like to ask in the dev forum , where this ALREADY HAVE BEEN discussed in a special thread.
You might find that some of us here are quite knowledgable and therefore your answer could be easily obtained here without the need to post in the dev forums
Why dont you give it a go and ask here ?
Also, if your question has already been asked, there is in all probability an answer there; so eed to re-post the same question?
I can understand the rule but not your argument. What if he has been using an app that has its own topic in the dev forum and he wants to post a bug report or ask a question that hasn't been asked before. If it's about that specific thing it should go in that specific thread.
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sageDieu said:
I can understand the rule but not your argument. What if he has been using an app that has its own topic in the dev forum and he wants to post a bug report or ask a question that hasn't been asked before. If it's about that specific thing it should go in that specific thread.
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yes, you have a valid point. However i was trying to put forward the notion that far too many people post in the dev sections without properly researching first, hence the requirement for the 10 post rule.
Of course the OP may have a very genuine bug to report, if this is the case then can the OP let me know if he still cant postin dev and ill look into it.
timmymarsh said:
There are very good reasons why the 10 post rule has been set up, a couple of which have been said above.
Why do you need to post in the dev section anyway? Are you a developer? If you arent and you create a new thread (question) it will probably get moved here.
If you are asking a question, the Q&A is the place
#justsayin
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not 100% true. I mean, when you use a ROM sometimes you want to exchange ideas with other users, make questions and even report bugs / make suggestions. you may not be a developer but in some way, everyone can be a beta tester! it doesn't make sense to star opening Q&A for CyanogenMod7 if you have a proper place in Developers Forum... And that's why I had to answer 10 things around (useful answers!) to use that section of the forums...
by the way, i don't know if the posts have to be useful, but i had access immediately to the dev forums...
hi, i'm a new user from spain, i need 10 posts to write on developers forums, where is in that forum the noobs place! thanks
I think it's a good idea. Learn your way around before posting/rambling on a devs forum. Think before you Speak.
well guess the builder of this forum tried to keep people stay here longer...or what else?
t1mm0, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums.
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I've been visiting XDA for many years and always find the answers to my questions via searching rather than posting questions.
I've therefore never had the requirement to post in the development section but I do now regarding ICS RC4.
I realize that there are many users who never search and *do* post stupid questions but is there any way for someone like myself to skip the 10 posts?
This isn't perhaps the best titled thread but I kinda feel like this since I'll have to post another 8 stupid threads before I can get to the folk who may know the answer to my question.
If you want to post a question about something related to a ROM, try looking in the Q&A section for the ROM you're using. You can post there without the 10-post limit, and unless you're bringing up a specific bug or have some sort of code to contribute to the item you would be posting under, that section should be able to handle whatever you would need.
New users should really read this I suppose.
I know it makes sense. I just needs an answer quickly
t1mm0 said:
New users should really read this I suppose.
I know it makes sense. I just needs an answer quickly
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If the Q&A isn't getting you where you need to be, you could always try the waters of sending the developer in question a PM. Depending on how swamped they are, you might get the answer you're needing a lot quicker.
It's really a stupid rule. What it should be, is 50 posts to make a thread in the dev section.
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I can see the objective of it the rule but yes, 50 posts to start a new thread in the Dev section would make more sense to me.
Agreed. I lurk, learn, and do. And I'm grateful to those who do develop on this platform. But I can't participate because I haven't passed the magic 10-post rule.
And I'm a software developer (not Android) by trade, so I understand what facilitates discussion and what does not, and I have a pretty good idea what are reasonable questions and what aren't.
The purpose of the Dev section is to post about developing not questions that is what the q&a or general
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t1mm0 said:
I've been visiting XDA for many years and always find the answers to my questions via searching rather than posting questions.
I've therefore never had the requirement to post in the development section but I do now regarding ICS RC4.
I realize that there are many users who never search and *do* post stupid questions but is there any way for someone like myself to skip the 10 posts?
This isn't perhaps the best titled thread but I kinda feel like this since I'll have to post another 8 stupid threads before I can get to the folk who may know the answer to my question.
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There are specific threads set up in Q&A for most of the ROMs, including ICSSGS RC 4. Post there and you'll be read, and most likely answered.
where do we supposed to reply in this forum? if we make a new thread here, they will closed it. if we reply to the topic that we needed, we are not allowed. what will we do here?
New version for taptalk have this problem .. just try many time it will work
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zerovirusity said:
where do we supposed to reply in this forum? if we make a new thread here, they will closed it. if we reply to the topic that we needed, we are not allowed. what will we do here?
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You need to fulfill the 10 post rule first. Most threads are development threads, therefore new members are not allowed to post until the 10 post minimum is met. This doesn't mean go and make 10 spam/junk/worthless posts either. Someone is always watching for this kind of behaviour.
zerovirusity said:
to all members here, although we are newbies here, we are aware of the rules in this forum because i am also a member in some forums. i hope you will considerate us. we chose to be a member here because this forum has a lot of things that we needed and some answers for our questions. if that's the case that we need to post 10 or more than posts, then please allow us here to post. don't closed it first until we reach 10 posts.
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Threads are only closed for irrelevant posts/spam. Make a worthwhile post and it won't be deleted/locked/removed. Pretty simple really. Everyone needs to bear in mind that this forum is intended for developers. Which 90% or better of you are not.
There are already plenty of threads that discuss this topic, so we don't need a new once (hence the closure).
One of my favourite reasons for the 10 post rule is that it encourages most users (the less spammy and needy ones) to spend more time reading than trying to post in development forums. If you do spend enough time reading you find that 99% of your questions have already been answered, and you learn a hell of a lot and start being able to answer questions yourself. That's a great way to take part in the community as a contributing member. In fairness, if you come here to leech and not participate then you're not adding anything to the forum.
Anyway, if you want more info then see the link in my signature about 10 posts - that should answer more questions