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Hi,
I see that we have many many roms and 2 types of Sapphire (32B and 32A)
Now I have an idea to help users to install and change rom easierly.
Please read all idea before replying. Some ideas relate to others.
1. All developer should make 2 choices : 32A rom or 32B rom
2. 32B rom have data/app_s. Running system application on flash memory is more stable and faster than running on ext partition sdcard
3. Recovery should have new feature : Wipe data except data/app_s
Amon_RA should add this feature in his recovery.
4. Developers should remove his own theme, 3rd application (which can download from market), moded application ... from rom, rom will be more stable and smaller
5. If developer want share his theme or moded application or add new feature, he should share extend update in an update_extend.zip on his topic. I suggest him to use 1 folder on sdcard and command *.sh file
If you used iPhone, you will see that moded FW of iPhone OS doesn't include theme, extend application (which can download from Appstore). Why can't we do that? I think almost people just want to find a stable rom without theme, without extend application
Some good ideas
+1 from me
Moar standardization pleez
Sounds like the OP is ill-informed, and wants an iPhone.
funbacon said:
4. Developers should remove his own theme, 3rd application (which can download from market), moded application ... from rom, rom will be more stable and smaller
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i've seen a few of these in the dream forum.
the developer releases the rom as a base package. ie. rom only, no (or very few customisations).
then add on packs are released to add 3rd party apps and customisations.
eg. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
this developer has released 4 different roms. each one comes as a base rom that is rooted, and each rom also then has an expansion pack.
themes are then installed as separate downloads.
the post is also very clearly laid out. i wish more developers took the time to create such understandable threads.
Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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Good Say My friend
seems like a pretty simple request. but what was said earlier has merit as well, since it is really the developer's choice since its done for free.
but yeah, some sort of options like Enthomer is nice. But then again those updates made by AmonRa and Cyanogen is awesome as well. Fast, stable and useful.
Oh, and I strongly support the part on the way the threads are made. some are really easy to follow up on for change logs and stuff, some are messy.
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If you used iPhone, you will see that moded FW of iPhone OS doesn't include theme, extend application (which can download from Appstore). Why can't we do that? I think almost people just want to find a stable rom without theme, without extend application[/B]
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Search the board (and the Android Market) for MetaMorph which does exactly that.
+1
well, although 'm not a dev, but as users this idea is pretty workable. at least we had lesser unneccesary thread and will look more neat and tidy. thats what make xda more professional and classy. way to go devs. +1 to the idea.
thanks.
OP, good idea, but not everyone may think like you, including the DEVs. There is nothing wrong with what you are stating, but it has been mentioned before that different DEVs want to work on different things; some people want to be unique.
One more thing, can you please not use the word should so much, please?
My wife uses it all the time..."you should clean this" " you should go here" " you should say this". thanks.
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Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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Agreed. Although some of the requests are somewhat reasonable, it's up to the devs to decide what they want to do with their free time and they are dedicating so much of it to making such great contributions to begin with.
We're not paying for the dev's services, so i dont think we have much pull on how they design their ROMS (nor should we)
I think if you want a specific ROM a specific way. YOU should be learning how to code and cook ROMS for yourself.
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Sounds like the OP is ill-informed, and wants an iPhone.
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Read and lol'd. This is probably pretty close to the truth.
Well I for one salute the OP for finally taking a stand and telling the devs what we really want. After all it is all about ME and what I want and they should bloody well be grateful that I even bother to tell them what is wrong with their work, and they should fix it faster. I am a busy guy and can't be bothered to figure out this stuff for myself....
If any of that even vaguely resonates with you... here is a very small clue, completely free of charge...
The devs do this work for their own reasons. Some do it for the challenge, some do it for fun, some do it because they want something different, some do it for the glory. However, they all share it and make the results of their hard work available for the benefit of us end user types. Many even provide free support and hand holding, answering the same questions over and over.
You can politely ask for things to change. If you structure your request well enough and it makes sense, some devs may see the benefit and change. Others will not. Trying to dictate standards of documentation, presentation, features, or packaging just is not going to work, and quite frankly why should it. They are not doing it for you, you are just benefiting as a side effect of them being willing to release their work.
I am sure if you were willing to pay regular software developer rates for a particular feature set, you could find folks willing to accommodate you. Unless you are willing to do that, consider that you already get far more than you pay for.
rydr1 said:
OP, good idea, but not everyone may think like you, including the DEVs. There is nothing wrong with what you are stating, but it has been mentioned before that different DEVs want to work on different things; some people want to be unique.
One more thing, can you please not use the word should so much, please?
My wife uses it all the time..."you should clean this" " you should go here" " you should say this". thanks.
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I'm Vietnamese and my English is not good. I just know saying " you should do something" is better than saying "you have to do something" or "you must to do something"
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Isn't this request cramping developer's style?
Yes that is what you may want. But at the end of the day, they are doing it out of their enjoyment. It's their project and they have free reign on what they do and when they do it. Out of shear good will developers share. Its not up to us to make requests on how things should be. Our roles is to be supportive and grateful for their contributions.
That's not to say your ideas aren't valid... perhaps just not entirely feasible.
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So I guess we should also stop giving developers suggestions and bug reports, because who wants to fix bugs for enjoyment? I disagree quite a lot with your post; it is in fact our role to make requests. How are ROMs supposed to get better without the input of its users? You completely contradict yourself by saying that we should not "make requests" but we should "be supportive," because by making requests, you are being supportive. By trying to better the project, you are being far more supportive than a silent user.
It's not like funbacon's suggestion has malicious intent. Neither is he trying to dictate what devs should and should not do. You don't have to agree with all of his points, but dismissing the whole thing because of one point, or the fact that he referenced the iPhone, is stupid. It's a suggestion, which most of you have said is a good idea, yet don't think it should be incorporated because... of the vocabulary used? Or maybe it's some other reason, but I have yet to see another valid reason.
Will this work in practice? That's another discussion. But I believe having some standards and general guidelines will be immensely helpful and make it simpler to try different ROMs.
Rydr1, you need counseling. Or a divorce.
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Well I for one salute the OP for finally taking a stand and telling the devs what we really want. After all it is all about ME and what I want and they should bloody well be grateful that I even bother to tell them what is wrong with their work, and they should fix it faster. I am a busy guy and can't be bothered to figure out this stuff for myself....
If any of that even vaguely resonates with you... here is a very small clue, completely free of charge...
The devs do this work for their own reasons. Some do it for the challenge, some do it for fun, some do it because they want something different, some do it for the glory. However, they all share it and make the results of their hard work available for the benefit of us end user types. Many even provide free support and hand holding, answering the same questions over and over.
You can politely ask for things to change. If you structure your request well enough and it makes sense, some devs may see the benefit and change. Others will not. Trying to dictate standards of documentation, presentation, features, or packaging just is not going to work, and quite frankly why should it. They are not doing it for you, you are just benefiting as a side effect of them being willing to release their work.
I am sure if you were willing to pay regular software developer rates for a particular feature set, you could find folks willing to accommodate you. Unless you are willing to do that, consider that you already get far more than you pay for.
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So... all the developers here make ROMs for themselves, but are nice enough to post it for everyone else to use?
Wow, haha. What a distorted view you have there. (Most?) developers aren't as selfish as you think they are. Developers make ROMs so the people who visit this forum can benefit from them, or at least that's the general reason. Why do you think they release updates often to fix bugs or add new functionality, or address issues and suggestions brought up by users?
Or, if I were to look at it from your point of view: users are just tools that devs use to make their ROM better.
Yeah, no. You shouldn't think so lowly of devs here. They should be appreciated, you know.
1.I will say that i've had android since day 1 and funbacon was around at that time to. helping and making changes himself to certain roms and apks etc...and helped other people, so he shouldnt be treated as a noob that doesnt know what he is talking about or that he is whining because that is not the case.
2. He made a suggestion that has to do with development and posted in the correct spot and he still hears **** from it? when there are people posting in deveoplment forums that has nothing to do it " what rom is the best, or what phone should i buy" and they dont get as much **** as your handing to someone that made a DEVELOPMENT suggestion and a good one. in the correct section. so people shouldnt be downing him for his work/suggestions
p.s funbacon...nice to see you around again
funbacon said:
I'm Vietnamese and my English is not good. I just know saying " you should do something" is better than saying "you have to do something" or "you must to do something"
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No, funbacon, you took it wrong. Im just kidding about using that word. there is nothing wrong with you using it, there is something wrong with my wife using it.
I was just adding a little fun to the thread.
Hi all,
I've nearly finished a project that has been about 4 months in the making. I'm not going to go into detail about what it does or what it's for, but there are 2 applications - 1 on the PC where you make "project" files, and one for your phone where you utilise these project files.
I need some graphics doing for both apps (icons and splash screens).
I'll obviously give anyone that's interested more information about the app, but anyone that's interested let me know and, if possible, link or attach some of your work on here.
I honestly believe that this app will be a BIG hit, as it does a nearly unlimited amount of things. It will also replace the CHTEditor.
Anyone that gets their artwork in it will obviously be mentioned in both the thread and the app, so it will earn us both kudos! Me for my app looking great, and you for showing off your skills.
Thanks all!
I can do the odd graphic thing, Im not particularly good but I would be willing to have a go if no one else wanted to (which is very unlikely)
tbh I just want to know when its being release
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Hi all,
I've nearly finished a project that has been about 4 months in the making. I'm not going to go into detail about what it does or what it's for, but there are 2 applications - 1 on the PC where you make "project" files, and one for your phone where you utilise these project files.
I need some graphics doing for both apps (icons and splash screens).
I'll obviously give anyone that's interested more information about the app, but anyone that's interested let me know and, if possible, link or attach some of your work on here.
I honestly believe that this app will be a BIG hit, as it does a nearly unlimited amount of things. It will also replace the CHTEditor.
Anyone that gets their artwork in it will obviously be mentioned in both the thread and the app, so it will earn us both kudos! Me for my app looking great, and you for showing off your skills.
Thanks all!
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Hi. by what exactly do u mean graphics art. Icons? if so, I could possibly try......
Hi john,
possible i can help out with some things. I think yu know me and what i have done. If you wish, please ask me. If no, no problem . There are allways people with a better skin for graphics .
BTW:
you have asked santod?
Hello, I am interested in an attempt to create the graphics. I am currently a graduating Graphics Designer. I will PM you the link to my website/portfolio.
Would be my pleasure.
Happy to do what I can my friend.
Just let me know.
Though we currently are involved in something together, it is completely up to you, no expectations.
Count me in... I have a pretty hectic life, but would be glad to assist if you need me.
I will be glad to help you in succession of your project by creating any type of graphics like Icons splash etc....
count me in. if you like to gimme this opportunity
I have never made icons, however I have a BA in 2d art and over 4 years of graphic design (photoshop, illustator, etc) experience. No real portfolio, however i did make a watch from scratch once for a class. I'm new to the forum and cant post links yet, so sorry
bowserink(dot)carbonmade(dot)com/projects/2302969#7
pm me if you need anything. I have all the time in the world right now, and would love to be apart of this.
shoots...
so how is it going on with the searching... plenty of people has been replied... are you still looking or what ?? I am wondering about this software... please describe more....
Edit: I didn't know that your father passed away. so sorry for that. I hope you will get that over quick...
Are you still looking ?
If so , I can help you.
To see some of my work :
http://www.vampirefreaks.com/members/meiyo/portfolio
Sounds interesting
I might not be skilled enough to work on the project but would like to see what I can accomplish. I am not a photoshop person; Illustrator is more my thing. I am also interested in designing effective and efficient layouts (page, screen etc.).
Links:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/alicelc1988/MISC/E03_linesketchcolour.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/alicelc1988/MISC/icons.jpg
Might not be the most skilled dude in the world but i would love to give it a try as i would love to contribute with as much as i can to this wonderful forum
http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii267/hojlind/ <-- different stuff i've made through the last 2 years or so
Hello John
Good day my friend
Actually I am new here and I passed by bec I am waiting my new HTC HD2 within days & I've heard about CHT editor and passed by here and I love your effort.
Anyway I have an advertising agency and I am sure I could help you with some breathtaking designs logos icons and even promo videos if u want. You can check my agency here and see my portfolio www(dot)zendacorporate(dot)com
N.P: I'm a lil bit confused about how things works here, like posts, problems reporting and follow up on them, so plz provide ur help if I need it and I will promise to try to be smart enough to understand, but don’t worry till now, I understand what i will do with the cht editor and the cookie home tab.
Now i am waiting your directions about the designs.
thnx
joe
Hello Infuse people, just thought i would reach out and see if there is anyone who is interested in having someone help them with Graphics for their roms,
Perhaps Logos, Release thread Headers, Banners
I wouldn't mind doing a siggie if you wanted as well
Ive only done some photoshop on XDA for the INFUSE Super Thread, but id like to add that im capable of doing much more, some more works of mine are available on request.
Im doing this because i love making graphics for people , as it gives me another opportunity to improve on my skills. Hope to hear from someone interested
Im open for MSN/SKYPE/STEAM/GTALK chat
So the big release is tomorrow for the Ubuntu for phone release for the GNexus and N4.... Anyone planning on porting this for us? I would really love to have Ubuntu on my phone as I can run my 3d printer software on my phone instead of buying another laptop for the garage. I am real excited about the Ubuntu phone though I wish we had a x86 cpu so we could run wine. Speaking of wine...... they are developing it for Android though it seems it is about a year away.
Would it be possible to create a dual boot Android/Ubuntu like the HD2 or are we too short on internal storage?
Wow, don't want much?? I am sure when it is released and we have a chance to see it we may be able to port it.. Until then enjoy what we have...
Oh count on a nice donation if we get Ubuntu working. Double that for a dual boot. I had Ubuntu on my old Glacier but I cant seem to get it to work well with the Blaze. I should of noted it wasnt a free request
Release date's were issued today
Images and open source code for the Touch Developer Preview of Ubuntu will be published on Thursday 21st February, supporting the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 smartphones. But more important than the release of two pre-compiled images will be a mass of un-compiled code. On the same day that Nexus owners face an ‘Android of Shiny New Preview’ dilemma, the Ubuntu Phone source code will also be made available.
This ‘milestone’ will be significant for the Ubuntu Phone project as it will mark the first that developers can dive in to the code. As an open-source project, devs will able to fix, refine and add features, as well as port it to run on other devices
Great! Well my offer is still there, put me down for $20 at least for a decent working port for the first dev/team to do it. We got some great devs here, I know it wont take too long.
Honestly man, no one is going to care that you have a $20 sitting there waiting to maybe be thrown into a developer's donate box in the future. Fact of the matter is, people that do stuff for phones do it because they like to do it. Their little donation button has nothing to do with giving them incentive to do anything, it's that they would be willing to spend more time working on a device, but it really is much easier to do with the device in hand.
Then you have the simple obvious fact that porting things takes a lot of work...the donate buttons there are to help a dev recover costs, and as often jokingly said, "Buy them a beer"....that's about it.
Say what you will about the absurdity of asking if Ubuntu will be ported to the Blaze, before the OS is even available to anyone, but to say, "I got money, I got money, I got money!" probably just comes off as a little insulting.
Maybe insulting is a bit excessive, but annoying surely fits.
Cirkustanz said:
Honestly man, no one is going to care that you have a $20 sitting there waiting to maybe be thrown into a developer's donate box in the future. Fact of the matter is, people that do stuff for phones do it because they like to do it. Their little donation button has nothing to do with giving them incentive to do anything, it's that they would be willing to spend more time working on a device, but it really is much easier to do with the device in hand.
Then you have the simple obvious fact that porting things takes a lot of work...the donate buttons there are to help a dev recover costs, and as often jokingly said, "Buy them a beer"....that's about it.
Say what you will about the absurdity of asking if Ubuntu will be ported to the Blaze, before the OS is even available to anyone, but to say, "I got money, I got money, I got money!" probably just comes off as a little insulting.
Maybe insulting is a bit excessive, but annoying surely fits.
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Dude, did you really just scold somebody for wanting to donate? Wow... Don't take it personal, but you should have let that one go. He didn't hurt or insult you or anyone for that matter. Let em spend his money where he wants. Now let's keep it clean and play nice.
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Honestly man, no one is going to care that you have a $20 sitting there waiting to maybe be thrown into a developer's donate box in the future. Fact of the matter is, people that do stuff for phones do it because they like to do it. Their little donation button has nothing to do with giving them incentive to do anything, it's that they would be willing to spend more time working on a device, but it really is much easier to do with the device in hand.
Then you have the simple obvious fact that porting things takes a lot of work...the donate buttons there are to help a dev recover costs, and as often jokingly said, "Buy them a beer"....that's about it.
Say what you will about the absurdity of asking if Ubuntu will be ported to the Blaze, before the OS is even available to anyone, but to say, "I got money, I got money, I got money!" probably just comes off as a little insulting.
Maybe insulting is a bit excessive, but annoying surely fits.
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Wow, man calm down. the money is just to show the developer how much they mean to community. To show the support or a way to build up hope for hard ideas to come to life. He's not waiving the money like he's trying to buy their work, just showing how much he cares.
On Friday, 22nd February we are going to take the wraps off the Ubuntu Touch Porting Guide, which will go into detail how Ubuntu Touch can be ported to other devices.
This will be a great way to get involved and get Ubuntu onto all kinds of devices.
Racing19969 said:
On Friday, 22nd February we are going to take the wraps off the Ubuntu Touch Porting Guide, which will go into detail how Ubuntu Touch can be ported to other devices.
This will be a great way to get involved and get Ubuntu onto all kinds of devices.
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Thanks Racing19969, I am very grateful for your enthusiasm to get this rolling. You have been such a big help here lately and I thank you a lot for it. Please PM me if you need a tester or any help. I'll make sure and send you some 3d printed stuff for your phone next month btw, do you have another phone besides the Blaze? I might be able to make something for it too....
Downloading source for ubuntu phone now ... porting guide is up and will hopefully have something to report by the end of the day... It's probably going to be an uphill battle as ubuntu phone is based off cm10.1 and we still do not have a working kernel for 10.1..
Racing19969 said:
Downloading source for ubuntu phone now ... porting guide is up and will hopefully have something to report by the end of the day... It's probably going to be an uphill battle as ubuntu phone is based off cm10.1 and we still do not have a working kernel for 10.1..
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WOW holy crap you are fast! Its ok, I'm down to wait, I'm just happy someone was interested in the project. Also more good news today, my printer is set to arrive Monday or Tuesday which is about 4 weeks early!! I emailed Samsung but they wont provide me with a render of our phone I just started a new job so hopefully I have some extra time to model up our phone to put on thingiverse soon. If not I might look into hiring someone to model our phone so we can get some 3d printed accessories.
Good luck man... I hope you success
http://androidheadlines.com/2013/02...-off-25-additional-devices-now-supported.html
Here's some good news idk if it'll help racing but just read it maybe u can try to look at some other phones port and it'll help
!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!PLEASE click THANKS if I helped!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!
If any others are interested all you have to do is go here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices to see what devices are being worked on..
porting information can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
We are going to be stuck though until we can get a working kernel for cm10.1 as ubuntu for phone is based off of it...
Until then I have left this alone.. We really need a Kernel Dev here to figure out our issue.. I have been working on it for weeks trying to figure it out.
I know it has to do with the ramdisk and how 4.2.2 stores and looks at the files...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168536
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T769 using xda app-developers app
Could this be used to complete the ubuntu port? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108958
Even if the port was not very functional.
Hi!
As we all know, picture and video quality on AOSP ROMs for LG's flagships leaves a lot to be desired. Camera2 API support would improve camera performance on G2 and G3 (and maybe it would be beneficial for G Pro 2 aswell)!
I know it doesn't mean a lot to you but it would help us, G2 and G3 owners, a lot! So please support us and sign!
Note: This petition is not hosted by me but Giancarlo Viali from G2 Owners Community on G+! I saw it very beneficial to share on XDA Forums!
LINK: https://www.change.org/p/lg-electro...ium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive
Thank You! Fingers crossed! :fingers-crossed:
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Hi!
As we all know, picture and video quality on AOSP ROMs leaves a lot to be desired. Camera2 API support would improve camera performance on AOSP ROMs! So please support the cause! It's worth a try!
Note: This petition is not hosted by me but Giancarlo Viali from G2 Owners Community on G+! I saw it very beneficial to share on XDA Forums!
LINK: https://www.change.org/p/lg-electro...ium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive
Thank You! Fingers crossed! :fingers-crossed:
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I wish we simply wish we had more developer support for this device id happily donate £100 to a developer if someone would stick with this device and help make it as good as we all know it can be..
but I've came to the conclusion after meny months that its simpley not going to happen not to the scale of the g2 or g3 anyway which I find upsetting,
this is such a underrated phone its unbelievable for the price I personally think this phone is amazing the screen is lovely to use the ui is smooth as butter and over all its simpley a brilliant phone,
But I think if your expecting donations its just not going to happen I would but I want other devs to back this phone up and help but unfortunately development seems dead such a shame for the beast of a phone this is.
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I wish we simply wish we had more developer support for this device id happily donate £100 to a developer if someone would stick with this device and help make it as good as we all know it can be..
but I've came to the conclusion after meny months that its simpley not going to happen not to the scale of the g2 or g3 anyway which I find upsetting,
this is such a underrated phone its unbelievable for the price I personally think this phone is amazing the screen is lovely to use the ui is smooth as butter and over all its simpley a brilliant phone,
But I think if your expecting donations its just not going to happen I would but I want other devs to back this phone up and help but unfortunately development seems dead such a shame for the beast of a phone this is.
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Oh oops srry I shouldn't have posted it here. :silly: but I feel you, it's clearly a very good phone by the specs. Sad not many developers aren't interested in it though. If I had the time I'd happily develop for it I'm learning game development though and all my time goes into studies and social life.
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I wish we simply wish we had more developer support for this device....
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Until it's available on all markets, we won't see it any time soon. That's why we have to do it ourselves.