Looking to hear pro's and con's of running nightlies
I am currently running locked and non rooted but thinking about switching to nightlies just looking to see if theres con's from the people that have switched. i realize that they are not "stable" builds and will have more bugs than the OTA's but how much more?
aford89 said:
Looking to hear pro's and con's of running nightlies
I am currently running locked and non rooted but thinking about switching to nightlies just looking to see if theres con's from the people that have switched. i realize that they are not "stable" builds and will have more bugs than the OTA's but how much more?
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You can read the discussion in nightly builds, try the builds which are best suited you perhaps less bug or whatever, then stay on that build until have major update / changes. Because sometimes nightly updates will fix current bug but break other things.
So, what are the differences between cm11s and cm11 except the "stock" root permission?
XDA is a development site not a support site. As the term "Best" or "Most Stable" is a very subjective term, such members are expected to do their own research, read through the development threads, and decide what is "Best/Most Stable" for them.
The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be "Best" or "Most Stable" for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. And at times, these thread spiral into arguments over which is perceived "Best/Most Stable".
Please take the time to read through the development threads, and interact with the members there, to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Which nightlies? There are no nightlies of CM11s.
But in general nightlies of a ROM have the possibility to be more buggy.
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You get the newest commits asap which can be hugely beneficial that you get fixes before anybody else. But at what cost? Like what Shoxter said, it could be buggy since it is still a work in progress. In my past experience, bugs do occur but at times they don't. They're not game changers to the point where you can't use the phone, so as long as you're aware of that risk (its pretty low) then feel free to flash nightlies.
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Previously I have had great joys with CM, however version 9 with build CM9-NIGHTLY-120308-Defy(hwa) is a complete piece of garbage.
The phone is over heating, freezing, rebooting and generally slow as a dog.
The phone is now rendered pretty much useless.
Has anyone had any luck with any of these builds. So far it looks like CM9 is far from ready for the Motorola Defy.
Is CM9 ready for any phone yet? I think you're expecting too much from an alpha build.
This is what happens when people flash alpha nightly roms and have no idea what they are doing.
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Is CM9 ready for any phone yet? I think you're expecting too much from an alpha build.
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Thnaks for your reply. So it is still very early in the development stage? I upgraded to 120319 Nightly Build, which is much faster. Seems like most issues are ironed out, however there are still a few little glitches in regards to performance.
A short amount of time to pass for such an increase in performance though, kudous to the developer.
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This is what happens when people flash alpha nightly roms and have no idea what they are doing.
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Thanks for your underlying tones of sarcasm and arrogance.
I was not aware of the moderator’s culture in XDA forums to contradict the entire purpose of having a Forum and a Mod. Your lack of support and helpfulness is quite deterring. I'll be sure to embrace for the next sarcastic comment from a mod in the near future.
Though, I do understand that your tiny position of power may have incited your god complex, corrupting you to a delusional belief that you have a higher purpose in this world, hence we’ll let this one slide.
Of course, you’ll probably delete this post out of embarrassment or anger, due to the fact that someone has questioned your role and general purpose in the forum.
damon79 said:
Thanks for your underlying tones of sarcasm and arrogance.
I was not aware of the moderator’s culture in XDA forums to contradict the entire purpose of having a Forum and a Mod. Your lack of support and helpfulness is quite deterring. I'll be sure to embrace for the next sarcastic comment from a mod in the near future.
Though, I do understand that your tiny position of power may have incited your god complex, corrupting you to a delusional belief that you have a higher purpose in this world, hence we’ll let this one slide.
Of course, you’ll probably delete this post out of embarrassment or anger, due to the fact that someone has questioned your role and general purpose in the forum.
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Not at all. I find your post amusing. And the general purpose of the forum is for development not user support.
The whole point to nightlies is the fact that it is very alpha and unstable. So flashing them you should have expected issues. You gave no logcat to help trouble shoot any issues have. Even though on the CM site it states clearly not to post issues on nightlies due to it being alpha stage. So instead you come to a development forum and make a post calling it crap.
But I will close this up. As it serves no real point.
I think we should have them. Roms get daily/weekly updates and I don't understand why we shouldn't discuss pros and cons of different roms every now and then.
Me, for instance would never flash coindroid without these threads. I'm loving it to bits. If a better rom comes around I'd like to be aware of it.
What is wrong with knowing that coindroid's standby battery consumption is 50ma vs revolution's 90ma before flashing both?
calyxim said:
I think we should have them. Roms get daily/weekly updates and I don't understand why we shouldn't discuss pros and cons of different roms every now and then.
Me, for instance would never flash coindroid without these threads. I'm loving it to bits. If a better rom comes around I'd like to be aware of it.
What is wrong with knowing that coindroid's standby battery consumption is 50ma vs revolution's 90ma before flashing both?
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I understand your intentions with this post, to be completely honest. You've got a good initiative for bringing the everyday "flashers" as you might call them, into the loop without reading about the specific daily updates on each of the countless ROMs on this site.
The problem lies in synchronization with every other thread. If the OP of CoinDroid, for example, posts his updates on the original development thread, then what's his incentive for also posting on this new thread? If someone else did it for him in a quick little blurb, that's fine, but then there could be misinformation spread and not even necessarily the latest updates. Someone would have to go through every thread, every day, and update this new one after that.
Another issue with a thread like this is that most of them venture into the realm of opinion, which is great for everyone in gaining a general consensus opinion on an awesome ROM (ARHD), but awful for discerning any actual facts. It's just people stating the pros and cons through their eyes in a cluttered manner on one thread. If we wanted that, we could just go look at all the countless other threads that go through this same routine. Hell, the people making the opinions could be running a very old version of the ROM that feels stable anyway, with a custom kernel and any other number of mods. That means their opinion says nothing about the current state of the ROM.
ROMs don't get that drastic of a change of a nightly basis. Plus, it's not really necessary to have a thread that says "This one is best" or "I like this one because..." simply because there are so many threads that previously address this. Feel free to start them (it's a forum, after all), but don't expect replies every time. I just think what you're proposing is far too lofty for a forum
Sorry if this was answered already. At the moment there is 4 you could choose from. I've read countless posts in each thread but that may be the reason why this goes over my head. I'm just trying to understand the difference between them all. I also thought I read that xoomdev said the devs couldn't make their own builds and could only release the official bricks. I know this was answered over in one if the rootz threads too but there's so many posts it would be like finding a needle in a haystack. So if anyone has the time and would like to elaborate, thank you in advance.
I am confused by this as well - it seems like there are multiple aokp and CM10 builds going around.
Very simply put you have the official builds of each which is how the main developers want the ROM to act/feel/look/etc... They also provide the code for these builds so any other developers that want to can add/subtract little tweaks here and there to make it how THEY want it to act/feel/look/etc... And that is what the unofficial builds are, "aftermarket" developers tweaking it.
EDIT: Also, if you have a bug on the official build of either then there's a 99% chance it's on all the other ones too.
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Very simply put you have the official builds of each which is how the main developers want the ROM to act/feel/look/etc... They also provide the code for these builds so any other developers that want to can add/subtract little tweaks here and there to make it how THEY want it to act/feel/look/etc... And that is what the unofficial builds are, "aftermarket" developers tweaking it.
EDIT: Also, if you have a bug on the official build of either then there's a 99% chance it's on all the other ones too.
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Thank you!
Hello all,
I've been visiting XDA since the first android phones. And I love seeing all the development made for phones. [MOD]s, [KERNEL]s and fixes/tweaks interest me. The trouble is, they get completely buried under threads about re-skinned stock/ CM / AOKP roms with a different kernel strapped underneath, and given a name containing "jelly", a biblical term, or a word describing speed. Most of these roms don't contribute actual development, and although they are nice for beginners or people who cant spend a day without flashing their phone. I don't care about them, and they obscure the actual development that is happening at XDA.
Is there a proper way of removing threads containing the [ROM] tag from XDA?
The_Double said:
Hello all,
I've been visiting XDA since the first android phones. And I love seeing all the development made for phones. [MOD]s, [KERNEL]s and fixes/tweaks interest me. The trouble is, they get completely buried under threads about re-skinned stock/ CM / AOKP roms with a different kernel strapped underneath, and given a name containing "jelly", a biblical term, or a word describing speed. Most of these roms don't contribute actual development, and although they are nice for beginners or people who cant spend a day without flashing their phone. I don't care about them, and they obscure the actual development that is happening at XDA.
Is there a proper way of removing threads containing the [ROM] tag from XDA?
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Well the [ROM] tag is to differentiate it from a kernel, mod, recovery etc. and doesn't imply that it's any more than a compiled CM base with just a theme add-on.
I understand your frustration completely, but people have to get started somewhere don't they? And the ones that have the most replies, i.e. most popular, tend to stay near the top of the forum anyways.
It would be rather arbitrary I think to take off that tag or tell someone their ROM was not "real" because they just compiled CM and added someone else's kernel and themed it a bit, because technically it IS a custom ROM. What you might do to help that specific chef is post suggestions in his ROM for how to better improve it, and browsing through the various ROMs doesn't take all that long does it? I mean I use Nexus devices, so you know how many ROMs I have to choose from.
I can appreciate where you're coming from, but a custom ROM is a custom ROM, no matter how heavily or lightly modified it is, and to now infer something isn't modified enough from Source to be labeled [ROM] is too much a gray area I think to adequately and fairly decide.
That was my observation too, the more popular the item, the better chance it'll be near the top of the list.
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Okay, deferring to the wisdom of the elders on this question. I've been all over the place with ROMs, TW and AOSP, but I'm heading to college in a few weeks and I'm looking to "settle down" with a ROM and ride it out until my upgrade in November. Is there a clear winner out there right now in terms of stability/battery life that still has some cool features? I'm very minimalistic and I don't need to be able to customize every single facet of the UI, but rooted stock is a bit too dull for me! I'm on CleanRom 8.2 atm and it's good but not great, I'm really looking for the ultimate daily driver ROM and kernel, please advise a lowly serf such as myself.
I don't believe the rules of XDA allow a "what is the best ROM" thread, so you may not get a simple answer (and to be honest, people have different priorities in what they want or need from a ROM, so what may be best for them may not be best for you).
That said, perhaps the best approach would be to look through the Android Development and Original Android Development topics and look at both the early posts (the OP, plus a page or two after), and the last page or two to get an sense of the install, the features, and the level of support you might get with each ROM. You will also be able to eliminate ROM's that are no longer supported (eg, I believe Scott is no longer supporting CR, so even though it was/is a great ROM, perhaps not the best to consider).
Also google the ROMs to see if there are any YouTubes showing the install and use of the ROM. There are many good reviews of ROMs and seeing them in action is a big help.
Last, a number of ROMs are being discussed on Google+ so you may want to check out that resource too.
And, it may also be a good idea to actually try the ROMs on your phone. ROMs can act differently on your phone than they might on mine.
Hope this helps!!
My recommendation is read all the rom threads as much a you can and experiment by trying them out. "Best of" rom threads are frowned upon because it generally discourages people to read and learn. I am going to close this and trust you will be able to find what you are looking for with some diligence and have fun trying. Thats what makes this site great!:good: