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Hi Guys,
So I managed to get my Z3 - D6603 to a state that I wanted: Lollipop, root and working Xposed. Only thing left to do was restore TA (Relock bootloader) so that I had all DRM functionality back - Perfect Device would result. I used Devshaft's tool to restore the backup I had taken before unlock of BL.
The fun started after the tool finished the restore and reboot the device, or rather, tried to reboot the device. The device was practically dead with only red LED visible with USB connected or a short vibrate when power button pressed. Nothing else (Very scary). Eventually managed to get the device to flash with flashtool in flashmode, no wipe. Device booted fine and on inspection I see the bootloader is infact relocked.
My question now is, what caused the 'Brick'? I would like to obtain root again by unlocking bootloader again, flashing Androplus and SuperSU, restore TA and relock. This time without getting the fright of my life thinking I had bricked my new and very expensive device. Any tips? Don't really want to data wipe again to go the PFCreator route.
Ch33rz,
Custom kernel and locked BL
Hey !
Relock bootloader (result of TA restore) with a custom kernel (Androplus,...) will soft brick the device. You can't boot a device with a locked bootloader and a custom kernel.
Don't panic, you can't hardbrick your device (but if you unplug your device during TA restore, you will brick it) !
DJPops said:
Hey !
Relock bootloader (result of TA restore) with a custom kernel (Androplus,...) will soft brick the device. You can't boot a device with a locked bootloader and a custom kernel.
Don't panic, you can't hardbrick your device (but if you unplug your device during TA restore, you will brick it) !
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Thanks for the reply, man.
Okay, that makes sense. However, when I did the restore I had this "Stock" kernel flashed and not Androplus. Is this still not an acceptable kernel? What criteria does the kernel need to fulfil to allow a successful restore without a soft brick?
Kyle07 said:
Thanks for the reply, man.
Okay, that makes sense. However, when I did the restore I had this "Stock" kernel flashed and not Androplus. Is this still not an acceptable kernel? What criteria does the kernel need to fulfil to allow a successful restore without a soft brick?
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No, that kernel has been modified so it is not stock
When on a locked bootloader you need the completely stock kernel, if it has been decompiled and recomiled (even with no changes) your phone will not boot on it.
Flash a FTF file or force a repair using PCComapnion to fix it
gregbradley said:
No, that kernel has been modified so it is not stock
When on a locked bootloader you need the completely stock kernel, if it has been decompiled and recomiled (even with no changes) your phone will not boot on it.
Flash a FTF file or force a repair using PCComapnion to fix it
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Thank you. That clarifies it nicely.
Some sort of integrity check at play here?
Kyle07 said:
Thank you. That clarifies it nicely.
Some sort of integrity check at play here?
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The fact is we do not know Sony keys, without them a locked bootloader will only boot a stock kernel
gregbradley said:
The fact is we do not know Sony keys, without them a locked bootloader will only boot a stock kernel
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In hindsight that was a silly question. Appreciate your patience.
Still getting accustomed to modifying a Sony. Initially quite different to other Androids I've modded - mostly Samsungs.
Hello,
Is it possible to Root my Sony Xperia Z3 D6603 which is currently running Android 5.0.2 without losing the DRM keys?
I don't want to have to roll back to 4.4.4, or lose any of my files.
I have a pretty slow internet so i'm not a big fan of downloading stuff, I'm just psyched to check out Xposed if it exists.
No, you must roll back to a FW ending in .93 which is KK, then root, then install recovery, then update via a pre-rooted flashable zip
I would not hold my breath for a lollipop exploit. The main reason to find one has gone (i.e there already is a way to get root on lollipop with a locked bootloader)
Hussain_Salam said:
Hello,
Is it possible to Root my Sony Xperia Z3 D6603 which is currently running Android 5.0.2 without losing the DRM keys?
I don't want to have to roll back to 4.4.4, or lose any of my files.
I have a pretty slow internet so i'm not a big fan of downloading stuff, I'm just psyched to check out Xposed if it exists.
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rooting has nothing to do with the DRM keys
you have to downgrade.
you will lose your data.
you have to download a kitkat stock rom.
No way around this if you want root.
android404 said:
rooting has nothing to do with the DRM keys
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It does if you root by unlocking the bootloader. Doing this wipes the TA partition where the DRM keys are kept
you will lose your data.
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Not if you do not wipe the data partition of flash the data partition from the FTF. You will get a lot of FC's when downgraded but this is not an issue as you will be upgrading immediately to Lollipop anyway
gregbradley said:
It does if you root by unlocking the bootloader. Doing this wipes the TA partition where the DRM keys are kept
Not if you do not wipe the data partition of flash the data partition from the FTF. You will get a lot of FC's when downgraded but this is not an issue as you will be upgrading immediately to Lollipop anyway
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Of course... Thanks for correcting me.
gregbradley said:
It does if you root by unlocking the bootloader. Doing this wipes the TA partition where the DRM keys are kept
Not if you do not wipe the data partition of flash the data partition from the FTF. You will get a lot of FC's when downgraded but this is not an issue as you will be upgrading immediately to Lollipop anyway
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But why revert if he is unlocking?
If he is unlocking he can flash a kernel with recovery and root via TWRP.
Before back up TA.
And after restore the DRM keys.
Easy.
TheTeslaCoil said:
But why revert if he is unlocking?
If he is unlocking he can flash a kernel with recovery and root via TWRP.
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Please read the OP, he does not want to lose DRM keys, hence he needs to root without unlocking the bootloader first.
Also, if you have a custom kernel installed you cannot have DRM keys running, once you restore them using a TA partition restore you relock the bootloader and cannot boot on a custom kernel.
gregbradley said:
Please read the OP, he does not want to lose DRM keys, hence he needs to root without unlocking the bootloader first.
Also, if you have a custom kernel installed you cannot have DRM keys running, once you restore them using a TA partition restore you relock the bootloader and cannot boot on a custom kernel.
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The DRM can be restored.
I rest my case.
TheTeslaCoil said:
The DRM can be restored.
I rest my case.
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sigh,,,
No they cannot unless you have taken a backup before unlocking the bootloader.
There is a thread about restoring some functionality but it does not restore to 100% stock compared to when people have a stock ROM with DRM keys installed, and like I said, READ THE OP, he asked for a way not to lose his DRM keys, not to have the functions associated with them.
If you unlock without backing them up, you cannot restore them, FACT!
I really do not want to get into an online fracas with you, but this is the second time today you are jumping in and not giving exactly 100% correct answers to the questions asked.
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Of course... Thanks for correcting me.
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No worries
gregbradley said:
sigh,,,
No they cannot unless you have taken a backup before unlocking the bootloader.
There is a thread about restoring some functionality but it does not restore to 100% stock compared to when people have a stock ROM with DRM keys installed, and like I said, READ THE OP, he asked for a way not to lose his DRM keys, not to have the functions associated with them.
If you unlock without backing them up, you cannot restore them, FACT!
I really do not want to get into an online fracas with you, but this is the second time today you are jumping in and not giving exactly 100% correct answers to the questions asked.
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But I already said, if you back up TA.
Check again.
And you appear to be a person that doesn' t like to be contradicted.
So...see you later.
TheTeslaCoil said:
But I already said, if you back up TA.
Check again.
And you appear to be a person that doesn' t like to be contradicted.
So...see you later.
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Please tell the user how to back up his TA then without rooting first...
You need to back it up before unlocking the bootloader and you need root to back it up....
From now on I think me and you should only talk via PM.
Regards.
Root, backup TA. Save it on your laptop.
Unlock bootloader.
Enjoy a rooted unlocked device with endless possibilities.
If you ever want to have your phone as it was when you bought it, restore TA, unroot etc.
Easy peasy japanesey.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Root, backup TA. Save it on your laptop.
Unlock bootloader.
Enjoy a rooted unlocked device with endless possibilities.
If you ever want to have your phone as it was when you bought it, restore TA, unroot etc.
Easy peasy japanesey.
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OK, so we are back at the situation the OP asked, how does he root without losing the DRM keys...... Your method said to unlock the boot to flash a custom kernel... That wipes the TA partition and the DRM keys BEFORE you have had a chance to back them up.
PS, as I said lets keep this via PM, I already sent one before you replied here.
gregbradley said:
OK, so we are back at the situation the OP asked, how does he root without losing the DRM keys...... Your method said to unlock the boot to flash a custom kernel... That wipes the TA partition and the DRM keys BEFORE you have had a chance to back them up.
PS, as I said lets keep this via PM, I already sent one before you replied here.
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Just to follow up with this discussion. I am currently on a locked bootloader but rooted and installed recovery using the method mentioned in the other thread. How can I back up my TA partition? I can't find a tutorial link on TA partition backup.
mf1tym said:
Just to follow up with this discussion. I am currently on a locked bootloader but rooted and installed recovery using the method mentioned in the other thread. How can I back up my TA partition? I can't find a tutorial link on TA partition backup.
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You have already done the "hard" part. Do some reading on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598 ,will be short , download zip within OP ,extract and run. After you created backup store it safely I think I have mine on 4 locations (cloud and local) although I doubt I will be unlocking bootloader anytime soon.
gregbradley said:
OK, so we are back at the situation the OP asked, how does he root without losing the DRM keys...... Your method said to unlock the boot to flash a custom kernel... That wipes the TA partition and the DRM keys BEFORE you have had a chance to back them up.
PS, as I said lets keep this via PM, I already sent one before you replied here.
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I said backup TA.
So...I' m right.
schetz said:
You have already done the "hard" part. Do some reading on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598 ,will be short , download zip within OP ,extract and run. After you created backup store it safely I think I have mine on 4 locations (cloud and local) although I doubt I will be unlocking bootloader anytime soon.
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Schetz, thanks mate. I saw this link before. It said it's unmaintained and the devices capatable is only to Z2 so I thought it did not work on the Z3. But I will re-read it again.
TheTeslaCoil said:
I said backup TA.
So...I' m right.
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You said to root by unlocking the bootloader first, then backup the TA so you are wrong. Editing your post after the fact does not change this, adding the line "Before backup TA" does not make you correct as you have to root to backup the TA.. so when you say "why revert when he can just unlock", that's why.
And finally, restoring the DRM keys after unlocking means you get a locked bootloader, so you cannot boot a custom kernel so you lose root...
The point is now moot, and you need to remember my advice on this, keep it in PM's
How Has anyone of you have any idea how to lock the bootloader on E3?
help3r said:
How Has anyone of you have any idea how to lock the bootloader on E3?
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If you had made a backup of DRM keys before you unlocked, you can restore them and lock your bootloader.
If you hadn't done it, bad luck, they're lost, DRM keys are device specific and you can't restore them from another device.
I do not have a backup, made DRM keys, but do not want to restore them. I just wanted to lock the bootloader (factory Uploader software) because it resells the phone.
help3r said:
I do not have a backup, made DRM keys, but do not want to restore them. I just wanted to lock the bootloader (factory Uploader software) because it resells the phone.
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They dont check the bootloader. I have sold many phones which were unlocked and rooted.
Yes, do not check, but if you need to give your phone under warranty then check if the bootloader is unlocked.
I ve backup my TA partition....then wanna restore...
but confused that which step is 1st Relock or restore..
So I have to do that without partition backup TA does not block the bootloader?
I repeat the question. Is it possible to lock the bootloader back without having done a backup TA?
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I repeat the question. Is it possible to lock the bootloader back without having done a backup TA?
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no
Hello , I hope you all doing good,I'm new , I had read a lot of Threads here , not completely but a lot of threads help me when i was completely lost so Thank to all members.
But now I got some questions about bootloader Relock , and Backup TA Partiton, first of all , I take a lot of time to do all steps because I use this Tutorial :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648 Thanks to @DHGE and @nathan30
but fail at some points( Flash Nougat and Unlock Bootloader)
So I Downgrade to MM, I save the 'famous' TA partition,everything was good ,next step was to flash a Nougat , and I successfully do it with this thread by @Leonne: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/help/famous-fsc-file-t3571093 Thank you dude
Next steps , Unlock the bootloader , and after a lot of command fail with Flashtool and adb command( with the good code by sony official website), I do it using another thread , this one by @lucaszell :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/help/solved-bootloader-unlocking-problems-t2364334/page4 Thank you
I flash Androkernel and TWRP then SuperSu , I became very affraid of ' Fail messages' and I think that ' Soft Brick and Brick' can kill me.
So how can I relock my Bootloader and restore my TA partition Properly , can I follow the first thread,why I ask this question,it's because I don't do everything as write in the first thread:
Now, if you want to restore your TA partition and relock your Bootloader this is absolutely simple.
First of all, backup all the data you care of. Because your phone will be factory reset. Take your backuped TA partition and rename it TAbackup.img
Then, start your phone into recovery mode (TWRP)
Plug your phone with USB and check your device is recognized in recovery mode : adb devices
If it's okay, let's run this command now : adb push TAbackup.img /data/local/tmp/TAbackup.img
Then run this one : adb shell dd if=/data/local/tmp/TAbackup.img of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/TA
Well, your TA partition is now back. Plug your phone off and you just have to flash a new STOCK ROM via FlashTool.
Now you have your original DRM and your bootloader is automatically relock !
Flash the stock ROM you want with Flashtool and enjoy a fresh and clean install
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That can brick my device ? I also got a warning at each boot , ... Your phone can't be trusted or something like that ... not important,but How can I restore my XZ like it just go out from the Sony store...Also I'm sorry ,my English is disgusting
Dorynous said:
Hello , I hope you all doing good,I'm new , I had read a lot of Threads here , not completely but a lot of threads help me when i was completely lost so Thank to all members.
But now I got some questions about bootloader Relock , and Backup TA Partiton, first of all , I take a lot of time to do all steps because I use this Tutorial :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648 Thanks to @DHGE and @nathan30
but fail at some points( Flash Nougat and Unlock Bootloader)
So I Downgrade to MM, I save the 'famous' TA partition,everything was good ,next step was to flash a Nougat , and I successfully do it with this thread by @Leonne: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/help/famous-fsc-file-t3571093 Thank you dude
Next steps , Unlock the bootloader , and after a lot of command fail with Flashtool and adb command( with the good code by sony official website), I do it using another thread , this one by @lucaszell :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/help/solved-bootloader-unlocking-problems-t2364334/page4 Thank you
I flash Androkernel and TWRP then SuperSu , I became very affraid of ' Fail messages' and I think that ' Soft Brick and Brick' can kill me.
So how can I relock my Bootloader and restore my TA partition Properly , can I follow the first thread,why I ask this question,it's because I don't do everything as write in the first thread:
That can brick my device ? I also got a warning at each boot , ... Your phone can't be trusted or something like that ... not important,but How can I restore my XZ like it just go out from the Sony store...Also I'm sorry ,my English is disgusting
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if u just wanna recover to stock easiest path is use emma
download it from here https://developer.sonymobile.com/open-devices/flash-tool/how-to-download-and-install-the-flash-tool/
acehoangtt said:
if u just wanna recover to stock easiest path is use emma
download it from here https://developer.sonymobile.com/open-devices/flash-tool/how-to-download-and-install-the-flash-tool/
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Emma will not relock the bootloader. Emma is official Sony software and they do not support relocking the bootloader.
The only way back to stock with a locked bootloader is to flash a FTF then restore your TA partition.
gregbradley said:
Emma will not relock the bootloader. Emma is official Sony software and they do not support relocking the bootloader.
The only way back to stock with a locked bootloader is to flash a FTF then restore your TA partition.
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How can I do that step by step?
Dorynous said:
How can I do that step by step?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=restore TA partition
If I backup my TA on Mm I got to downgrade to restore it ?
Dorynous said:
If I backup my TA on Mm I got to downgrade to restore it ?
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No
Your backup contains the content of one partition.
The content of TA stays the same throughout the life of your device unless you or a malicious software fiddles with it.
According to what I did to root my phone I can backup my TA with the backup ta tool without worry?
Dorynous said:
Hello , I hope you all doing good,I'm new , I had read a lot of Threads here , not completely but a lot of threads help me when i was completely lost so Thank to all members.
But now I got some questions about bootloader Relock , and Backup TA Partiton, first of all , I take a lot of time to do all steps because I use this Tutorial :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648 Thanks to @DHGE and @nathan30
but fail at some points( Flash Nougat and Unlock Bootloader)
So I Downgrade to MM, I save the 'famous' TA partition,everything was good ,next step was to flash a Nougat , and I successfully do it with this thread by @Leonne: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/help/famous-fsc-file-t3571093 Thank you dude
Next steps , Unlock the bootloader , and after a lot of command fail with Flashtool and adb command( with the good code by sony official website), I do it using another thread , this one by @lucaszell :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/help/solved-bootloader-unlocking-problems-t2364334/page4 Thank you
I flash Androkernel and TWRP then SuperSu , I became very affraid of ' Fail messages' and I think that ' Soft Brick and Brick' can kill me.
So how can I relock my Bootloader and restore my TA partition Properly , can I follow the first thread,why I ask this question,it's because I don't do everything as write in the first thread:
That can brick my device ? I also got a warning at each boot , ... Your phone can't be trusted or something like that ... not important,but How can I restore my XZ like it just go out from the Sony store...Also I'm sorry ,my English is disgusting
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1. with XZ its no turning back option, if you relock you bootloader, the device will keep shutting down
2. you will have to first restore TA.IMG (of your OWN DEVICE!!!!) using dirtycow script! on rooted phone having modified kernel!
3. then flash any ORIGINAL stock rom (either 6, 7 or 7.1.1)
4. using FLASTHOOL you can RELOCK you BOOTLOADER with the same key! (KEEP THE KEY SAVED)
now you will have
original stock rom installed, stock kernel, and TA.img in play! so relocking bootloader should be fine!
YasuHamed said:
1. with XZ its no turning back option, if you relock you bootloader, the device will keep shutting down
2. you will have to first restore TA.IMG (of your OWN DEVICE!!!!) using dirtycow script! on rooted phone having modified kernel!
3. then flash any ORIGINAL stock rom (either 6, 7 or 7.1.1)
4. using FLASTHOOL you can RELOCK you BOOTLOADER with the same key! (KEEP THE KEY SAVED)
now you will have
original stock rom installed, stock kernel, and TA.img in play! so relocking bootloader should be fine!
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Sorry to be so blunt: this is bull****!
Stick with what you'll find in this forum or in the results of the link in post #5 in this thread.
DHGE said:
Sorry to be so blunt: this is bull****!
Stick with what you'll find in this forum or in the results of the link in post #5 in this thread.
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well then the only way to find out is let the user brick his phone
thanks for reply
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well then the only way to find out is let the user brick his phone
thanks for reply
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Well, I think @Dorynous is a bit lost but on this journey he edited post #1 in this thread. There he quoted a proper procedure to reverse the unlocking.
The procedure you describe will not work (wrong tools, no functionality for XZ, ...) at best or/and WILL brick the device.
+1 just relocked my bootloader 10 min ago...
Hey @Pipould,you do it using the quote in the first post by @DHGE?
Or you do it using @YasuHamed post?
Your device working fine? No more warning like... You device can be trust... ??
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Hey @Pipould,you do it using the quote in the first post by @DHGE?
Or you do it using @YasuHamed post?
Your device working fine? No more warning like... You device can be trust... ??
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JUst followed this https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648 with my proper TA backup, good as new.
Dorynous said:
Hey @Pipould,you do it using the quote in the first post by @DHGE?
Or you do it using @YasuHamed post?
Your device working fine? No more warning like... You device can be trust... ??
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the process described by me and mention here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
is similar,
you can only relock you bootloader ONCE you have TA.img instate and untouched kernel flashed.
if @Pipould just relock his bootloader, the device won't boot and keep displaying warning.
YasuHamed said:
the process described by me and mention here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
is similar,
you can only relock you bootloader ONCE you have TA.img instate and untouched kernel flashed.
if @Pipould just relock his bootloader, the device won't boot and keep displaying warning.
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Yeap, I don't see the point of relocking if you don't have TA.
I have my TA img and I'm on the Androplus Kernel
Will be selling my phone shortly and need to flash it back to a stock rom (UK) and lock the boot loader, I am getting a bit lost searching around trying to find the right files to flash with as from what I gather it has to be a UK stock file? I would also like to relock the bootloader / unroot so it's ready for sale.
Hope someone can help, thank you.
ryant71 said:
Will be selling my phone shortly and need to flash it back to a stock rom (UK) and lock the boot loader, I am getting a bit lost searching around trying to find the right files to flash with as from what I gather it has to be a UK stock file? I would also like to relock the bootloader / unroot so it's ready for sale.
Hope someone can help, thank you.
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If you took a backup of your TA partition you just need to flash that back in order to relock the bootloader and restore your DRM keys.. If you didn't take a TA backup then you cannot restore your DRM keys anyway.
You can flash any FTF to go back to stock as all FTFs are stock, just from different regions and carriers. If you are from the UK then flash any UK FTF. Use flashtool to download the FTF and flash it.
gregbradley said:
If you took a backup of your TA partition you just need to flash that back in order to relock the bootloader and restore your DRM keys.. If you didn't take a TA backup then you cannot restore your DRM keys anyway.
You can flash any FTF to go back to stock as all FTFs are stock, just from different regions and carriers. If you are from the UK then flash any UK FTF. Use flashtool to download the FTF and flash it.
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Thanks for the help, I don't believe I did do a backup so does that mean there is no way of getting rid of the message when the phone boots up?
ryant71 said:
Thanks for the help, I don't believe I did do a backup so does that mean there is no way of getting rid of the message when the phone boots up?
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You can do it using flashtool. The warning will probably go (I have not done so cannot confirm) However, relocking the bootloader without the TA partition will not restore any of the DRM functionality you lost when unlocking the bootloader, and regained by flashing the DRM fix (which can only be used on an unlocked device). Therefore, if you sold me the device without telling me you had wiped the DRM keys I would be pretty annoyed and would come looking for you if you tried to charge me anything near the going rate.
I would leave it unlocked and advertise it as such.
Greg
If you use flashtool to relock your bootloader the message does go away I've done it before and can confirm that it does.
But you won't be able to patch DRM. Better stay unlocked and flash a patched kernel.