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So I've just been running a stock rooted flashable ROM nothing else. I want to have CM or a CM based ROM due to easy updating etc.. Anyway I'm ocd when it comes to what's on my phone I just don't want any bugs or issues.
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Yes, CM and most other roms found in Android development forums are stable enough to be used as a daily driver. But obviously you will face fcs sometimes!
Why don't you try it out? If you're not happy with it, just restore the nandroid backup!
Don't use nightlies, use release candidates or releases those will be the most stable. I think the snapshot would be your best bet or read the CM thread and see what problems users are reporting if anything.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hammerhead
There are more ROMs besides CM. Those Devs work hard and don't want to be overlooked just because CM is the most well-known aftermarket ROM.
Depends how picky you are regarding stability/daily driver of a phone.
If you want to play it safe, just root phone and install Xposed + GravityBox.
If you want to explorer more capabilities, go with a stable build of CM.
However, from my past experience with CM/custom roms, it's really all random. I've had unstable experiences even on a stable CM build, and I've had fairly stable daily driver of a rom when using nightlies too. It's really all a gamble.
Always make backups.
But I will say from where you are coming at, I'd try the Xposed framework + GravityBox 1st before you attempt going CM.
I'm using CM11 snapshot M3 and it's working fine for me. No bugs so far. Give it a shot.
Aria807 said:
Depends how picky you are regarding stability/daily driver of a phone.
If you want to play it safe, just root phone and install Xposed + GravityBox.
If you want to explorer more capabilities, go with a stable build of CM.
However, from my past experience with CM/custom roms, it's really all random. I've had unstable experiences even on a stable CM build, and I've had fairly stable daily driver of a rom when using nightlies too. It's really all a gamble.
Always make backups.
But I will say from where you are coming at, I'd try the Xposed framework + GravityBox 1st before you attempt going CM.
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Thats what I'm currently doing... Lol. I only use the status bar signal colours and nothing else. I like stock with a little changes.
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hyelton said:
Thats what I'm currently doing... Lol. I only use the status bar signal colours and nothing else. I like stock with a little changes.
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I too recommend gravity box, but give cm a shot, Just back up, play around with CM, if you don't like it just restore, good as new :good:
I'll be flashing the latest nightly right now, 3-5-14
I'm a little OCD myself, I dislike having all those Play Apps to be honest lol, :silly:
You can play it safe with multirom manager. Use it to keep your current rom and dual boot into other rom to test them out. That's what I'm doing.
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I'm for GravityBox + stock honestly. Xposed gives me all the tweaks I really need.
IMO yes it is very stable. I've chosen to run PA purely because I love Pie. They are all very stable these days, only the ones which say that they are unstable are unstable.
Devs and contribs are getting pretty good
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Monthly, release candidates and releases are stable.
+1 to avoid nightlies w/out nandroid backup.
for example all of the nightlies sincd 03/01 breaking google dialer and voice+.
Just curious, I'm looking between the 2 Roms and loving different parts of them equally.
My biggest concern is when the updates come. Coming from Verizon, and locked bootloaders on my S4 and One, and lack of updates never caused me any of this concern.
If I decide to have CM11 nightlies or PA, will I be waiting for a stable version of, let's say, 5.0? And will I be stuck with buggy Roms? Or what would happen on either ROM with a large upgrade like that via OTA? I've never really had a stock experience coming from Verizon, and when I did on the GNex, there were never any real updates. Anyone whose had VZW feels my pain. So I wouldn't know what happens with a milestone upgrade like a newer version of android, or even 4.3 > 4.4 ...
Or would I be better off waiting on Stock and having the OTA via Google?
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You will have to wait as long as it takes to merge the code and verify nothing is broken with the new code.
CM does nightlies and PA does weekly builds. Stay away from nightlies and stick to more stable versions if you don't want a possibility of a buggy build.
If a new version of Android comes out it will be merged with cm and PA and subsequently be in your hands as soon as possible.
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Pirateghost said:
You will have to wait as long as it takes to merge the code and verify nothing is broken with the new code.
CM does nightlies and PA does weekly builds. Stay away from nightlies and stick to more stable versions if you don't want a possibility of a buggy build.
If a new version of Android comes out it will be merged with cm and PA and subsequently be in your hands as soon as possible.
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So, for example, 5.0 comes out. I'm on CM11 M6, and CM releases a stable build of their 5.0 OS, will my phone upgrade to (CM12) or whatever it may be from CM11? Or will I have to flash it like a new ROM?
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justinisloco said:
So, for example, 5.0 comes out. I'm on CM11 M6, and CM releases a stable build of their 5.0 OS, will my phone upgrade to (CM12) or whatever it may be from CM11? Or will I have to flash it like a new ROM?
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that entirely depends on what changes between versions.
there are many ways to prevent the need to reload all your apps and settings. titanium backup and helium are great options for being able to retain your data.
I cannot speak for CM, but at Paranoid Android we like to prevent the need for doing a full wipe upgrade, but sometimes it is just necessary.
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that entirely depends on what changes between versions.
there are many ways to prevent the need to reload all your apps and settings. titanium backup and helium are great options for being able to retain your data.
I cannot speak for CM, but at Paranoid Android we like to prevent the need for doing a full wipe upgrade, but sometimes it is just necessary.
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Personally, I can't stand the UI of Titanium anymore. I have been using Helium for a while, but lately I've had so many issues restoring either from an SD Backup, after wiping my SD, or failing from a Cloud restore...
In a long story short, I am constantly going back and fourth between the 2 Roms. I love the simplicity and fluidity of PA, but love the customization of CM. I'm on CM at the moment, just flashed it from PA yesterday, I'm just curious if its really worth it to stick with a custom Rom, and lose out of the option of getting the newest OS, or do the Devs get their hand on the newest OS before its actually released to the masses, and usually taken care of beforehand...
Devs get the source code as soon as it is made public. Generally it is within a day or two of the ota rollout, and with the way ota rollouts happen, your favorite rom might have it before you receive the ota
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Why is the Cyanogen team putting more focus on CM11 unopposed to CM11s which is supposed to be their unique software for the Oneplus One? They even rolled out a Nexus-esque rom just yesterday.
This move doesn't make sense to me from a marketing standpoint. One would think the best way for them to go is to make sure CM11s is bug free and then focus on CM11 or whatever else.
THIS IS NOT A RANT. I'm literally confused so please keep all negative comments to yourself.
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I would think it's because CM11 is on more devices (many more) than CM11S
there's only 1 phone that runs CM11S, where as almost every other phone has a build of CM11. There are even CM11 nightlies for the OPO if you would rather use that.
why would they focus all their efforts on one specific phone? THAT would not make good sense.
CM11S is meant to be a finished product. There will be stable finished builds in the future, but no nightlies.
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there's only 1 phone that runs CM11S, where as almost every other phone has a build of CM11. There are even CM11 nightlies for the OPO if you would rather use that.
why would they focus all their efforts on one specific phone? THAT would not make good sense.
CM11S is meant to be a finished product. There will be stable finished builds in the future, but no nightlies.
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From the Amount of bugs I can assure you that CM11s is far from finished.
I'm getting a better experience with CM11 + CM11S Apps. I'd recommend that.
FuNKSioN said:
there's only 1 phone that runs CM11S, where as almost every other phone has a build of CM11. There are even CM11 nightlies for the OPO if you would rather use that.
why would they focus all their efforts on one specific phone? THAT would not make good sense.
CM11S is meant to be a finished product. There will be stable finished builds in the future, but no nightlies.
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I know it is meant to be a finished product, that's why I'm confused as to why they are still pushing the Nightlies so hard. Shouldn't CM11S be their main focus especially since this is their flagship?
Also isn't CM11 almost the same as CM11s except for subtle visual changes like the lock screen, etc? I would of thought that Cyanogen would of at least did CM11s nightlies.
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drakester09 said:
From the Amount of bugs I can assure you that CM11s is far from finished.
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I guess "finished" was the wrong word. what I meant was "stable ready for release". as in, no nightlies, snapshots, milestones, etc..
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I know it is meant to be a finished product, that's why I'm confused as to why they are still pushing the Nightlies so hard. Shouldn't CM11S be their main focus especially since this is their flagship?
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nightlies are simply made available. they aren't pushing anything. the code base is compiled on a "nightly" schedule, and if anyone wants it they can go get it.
CM11S is by no means a flagship for Cyanogenmod in any way. its just a version they compiled for the OPO. The OPO was meant to be the first marketable consumer phone running stock CM. No company anywhere is making "nightlies" available for consumer products.
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Also isn't CM11 almost the same as CM11s except for subtle visual changes like the lock screen, etc? I would of thought that Cyanogen would of at least did CM11s nightlies.
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is there something specific in a newer nightly that you want on your OPO, or do you just want "whatever is the newest I can get my hands on"? if that's the case, you can easily switch over to a CM nightly.
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I guess "finished" was the wrong word. what I meant was "stable ready for release". as in, no nightlies, snapshots, milestones, etc..
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nightlies are simply made available. they aren't pushing anything. the code base is compiled on a "nightly" schedule, and if anyone wants it they can go get it.
CM11S is by no means a flagship for Cyanogenmod in any way. its just a version they compiled for the OPO. The OPO was meant to be the first marketable consumer phone running stock CM. No company anywhere is making "nightlies" available for consumer products.
is there something specific in a newer nightly that you want on your OPO, or do you just want "whatever is the newest I can get my hands on"? if that's the case, you can easily switch over to a CM nightly.
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From what I've read the Nightlies are more stable than CM11s. What I would definitely want is the stability. There is too many bugs on the stock ROM but at the same time I don't want to have to flash a custom ROM to get stability.
I do understand that this phone isn't officially released yet so I am grateful for beta testing the software.
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They are the same thing. Cm11 has nightly builds that are for every device where features are added and bugs are fixed. They are not considered stable. There are also monthly milestone builds which are considered somewhat stable. Cm11s is based on milestone builds with added proprietary code. You should see cm11s updates no sooner than every two weeks and no later than ever month. Any sooner would be annoying.
Cyanogen and OnePlus are not the same company. OnePlus made a stock android ROM based on source code to get people to shut up about making gpe phone. It's not Google certified so it doesn't include Google services or the play store. It's not signed by cyanogen so it doesn't flash with out unlocking the bootloader and using a different recovery.
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They are the same thing. Cm11 has nightly builds that are for every device where features are added and bugs are fixed. They are not considered stable. There are also monthly milestone builds which are considered somewhat stable. Cm11s is based on milestone builds with added proprietary code. You should see cm11s updates no sooner than every two weeks and no later than ever month. Any sooner would be annoying.
Cyanogen and OnePlus are not the same company. OnePlus made a stock android ROM based on source code to get people to shut up about making gpe phone. It's not Google certified so it doesn't include Google services or the play store. It's not signed by cyanogen so it doesn't flash with out unlocking the bootloader and using a different recovery.
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It doesn't need to be certified by Google, its treated as a custom ROM and is not officially supported by the company. It has a separate gapps package to get Google Services/Play Store just like any other custom ROM.
Think of it as a 'reference rom' for other developers to get on the AOSP train if they choose to do so.
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It doesn't need to be certified by Google, its treated as a custom ROM and is not officially supported by the company. It has a separate gapps package to get Google Services/Play Store just like any other custom ROM.
Think of it as a 'reference rom' for other developers to get on the AOSP train if they choose to do so.
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I'm aware. Is built from the cm source without the cm customizations.
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can you dirty flash to regular cm, or is it different enough that we need to wipe the system?
I do agree that CM11 nightly is much more stable than CM11s.
But I still like CM11 looks though. CM11s a bit weird for me.
OnePlus One will be getting a new version of CM11S very soon. And will get Android L one released also... why waste time on older versions? OP clearly has no business sense... There has already been one official OTA that fixed some things (nothing is broken on my OnePlus One, everything works great) There are also 4 or 5 official roms... flashing doesn't void warranty... so I'd say they're doing quite well actually.
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Hello people
My sister is considering flashind custom rom on her SGS Advance. And because I'm not familiar with Samsung devices (I have two Sony :>)
I would like to ask you to help me chose the most stable and fully functional custom ROM.
At the moment she has stock JB installed but it has some freezes and doesn't run very well.
What can you recommend? It doesn't have to be the nevest android.
I think I would chose between SkimKat 4.4, CyanogenMod 11 by Team Canjica and VanirAOSP 4.4.4. I know those are very good custom roms.
Can you tell me if there are any issues with those? like reboots, not working features?
If you say custom ROMs, there is no ROM which is bug free but there are stable ROMs.
Stability depends on how and what you use. All 4.4 ROMs have reached to a state where you can use them for daily use.
I am Using CM11 nightly 20140614 and dont have any problems.
All the ROMs have their dev and Q/A threads, you can check them for the most stable builds and the working/non working functionality.
Try the latest vanir aosp its fast, fluid and stable...
For me its the most stable rom yet
Well SlimKat seems to be bugless.
VanirAOSP has some bugs with SystemUI
Go for the slimkat(final). It's the smoothest, fastest rom for our phone.
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lozohcum said:
Hello people
My sister is considering flashind custom rom on her SGS Advance. And because I'm not familiar with Samsung devices (I have two Sony :>)
I would like to ask you to help me chose the most stable and fully functional custom ROM.
At the moment she has stock JB installed but it has some freezes and doesn't run very well.
What can you recommend? It doesn't have to be the nevest android.
I think I would chose between SkimKat 4.4, CyanogenMod 11 by Team Canjica and VanirAOSP 4.4.4. I know those are very good custom roms.
Can you tell me if there are any issues with those? like reboots, not working features?
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Test all roms to see which rom fit for you
CM 10.1
Wysłane z WOO-Phablecika 4.2.2...
Vanir is the best!
AOKP 4.2.2 by PV after uninstalling and reinstalling calendar is stable.
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I'd have to go with Vanir. Everything just works and lag is virtually non-existent. The only downside I can see is slightly shorter battery life (could be just my phone though). One advantage that i love is it has it's own updater so it's not much of a hassle to get the latest fixes and improvements!
Another option for her would be to stay with stock JB bit change her kernel to CoCore.
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I'd have to go with Vanir. Everything just works and lag is virtually non-existent. The only downside I can see is slightly shorter battery life (could be just my phone though). One advantage that i love is it has it's own updater so it's not much of a hassle to get the latest fixes and improvements!
Another option for her would be to stay with stock JB bit change her kernel to CoCore.
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More performance = more battery drain.
@lozohcum : How old is she? She want a girl theme too?
After testing almost every ROM, i think that CM10.1 is the most stable(with good battery backup)...
Liquid smooth 3.2 smooth as liquid with all customizations
just battery backup is 15 to 17 hr is matter
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After testing almost every ROM, i think that CM10.1 is the most stable(with good battery backup)...
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Yeah, you should try this. Cm 10.1 is awesome!
I think u can choose between VanirAOSP or AOSP from j.team.. The last one is disscontinued but its 90% finished and 100% stable.
U can choose one of them, or, simpli, test both because testing is the only (exactly) way to know if ROM is for you (or sister).
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I've tried a couple AOSP-based Marshmallow ROMs and none of them have the option to update Profile and Prl for Sprint. I know by definition AOSP shouldn't have this, since it's something propietary however is there a zip out there one can flash to bring this capability? I don't know if it's possible to take whatever allows this in the Factory Image and make it an add-on for all devs to possibly offer for their ROMs. But that would be .
Every aosp ROM I've used has it. Even the one marshmallow ROM I tried.
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Really? Well damn. But can you point me to one?
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3218330
This is the one I tried
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jasonevil said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3218330
This is the one I tried
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That's stock based. AOSP based is the custom roms people build. I tried the chroma beta marshmallow rom and I couldnt even get data on sprint so i'm assuming there was an apn issue as usual. I'm waiting on Twisted Team to release their marshmallow rom because their lollipop rom worked pretty damn good on sprint.
Yea AOSP-based is what I meant.
Thanks for recommending Twisted!
I'm waiting for their M release.
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That's stock based. AOSP based is the custom roms people build.
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People build custom ROM's based on stock and AOSP.
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Update on a stock rom. The prl and profile stick. Only caveat is if you have trouble you have to flash back to stock to do it again. The only reason to have to do this is if your data stops working for some reason.
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i just updated to cataclysm mm and it has the prl and profile update under more-cellular network-carrier settings. nice rom.
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People build custom ROM's based on stock and AOSP.
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To be fair I think people add apks to most roms based on stock image and actually modify it very little, with the exception of cataclysm, which is heavily modded. AOSP based roms dont have Update Prl/Profile functionality by default because that comes with Sprint's proprietary software (just some additional apks) that needs to be added in.