why is nobody working on a custom kernel? i would be willing to help.
@arrrghhh have a custom kernel for msm8960 devices if you want to help contact to him http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893050
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@arrrghhh have a custom kernel for msm8960 devices if you want to help contact to him http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893050
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issue is i have a kk bootloader
There are any number of reasons of which two come to mind:
KK just came out in the past few months and developers are working hard on upgrading their ROMs to work with it. So, working on a new kernel right now is not in their sites.
The phone IS two years old and a lot of other developers have probably moved onto other phones. They either don't have the XT926 anymore or else, they don't have the time.
Remember, a lot of what these people do are for free and in their free/spare time. It's nice you are offering to help. Maybe you can start?
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where are there no roms for the gt 6210??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547152
p6210 has this one only
we have no rom as we have no codes Samsung will not let them go
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where are there no roms for the gt 6210??
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There are quite a few reasons we don't. Number one is that there is not a lot of interest in this device by developers. Gary right now is pretty much our only one and he has already said he eventually will get around to making ROMs but not right away. A few of us have the basic knowledge to maybe hack something together but without good kernels a lot of the hardware may or may not work, wifi for one. There are ways to get these things to work like porting over other devices kernels, but that is beyond most of us here. The 7.7's could be ported over as it has similar hardware and you could probably port over ICS from it too. You would need a good kernel developer who has the time to do it. On top of it Honeycomb isn't the easiest thing to make ROMs for, MIUI and CyanogenMod don't have Honeycomb versions. Once ICS drops we can use that kernel to at least try and port over MIUI 4 and CM9 but its still a lot of work and again having only one dev doesn't help. We will need a team effort to get a lot of it done.
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There are quite a few reasons we don't. Number one is that there is not a lot of interest in this device by developers. Gary right now is pretty much our only one and he has already said he eventually will get around to making ROMs but not right away. A few of us have the basic knowledge to maybe hack something together but without good kernels a lot of the hardware may or may not work, wifi for one. There are ways to get these things to work like porting over other devices kernels, but that is beyond most of us here. The 7.7's could be ported over as it has similar hardware and you could probably port over ICS from it too. You would need a good kernel developer who has the time to do it. On top of it Honeycomb isn't the easiest thing to make ROMs for, MIUI and CyanogenMod don't have Honeycomb versions. Once ICS drops we can use that kernel to at least try and port over MIUI 4 and CM9 but its still a lot of work and again having only one dev doesn't help. We will need a team effort to get a lot of it done.
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It's not much, but I've started a device tree with some initial work on a CM9 port. If you've got a copy of CM9's repository, clone this repo into the device/samsung directory, then you'll be able to start working on building CM9: https://github.com/alanorth/device_samsung_galaxytab7p
Also, I have a kernel repo here: https://github.com/alanorth/samsung-kernel-p6200
And a collection of initramfs (including touch and non-touch ClockworkMod Recovery): https://github.com/alanorth/GT-P6200-initramfs
If you're at ALL interested in helping with development on this device (especially CM9), fork those repos and start experimenting with building/tweaking STOCK stuff first.
I'm more interested in trying to port over MIUI 4 (ICS version). Been reading up on how to do it but really need the ICS kernel for our device first before I will even attempt it. I pretty much feel confident I could at least get a bootable version up and running but as far as fixing things that are broken that would take a lot more than I might be able to handle on my own. Say if wifi is broken I'm not sure where to go to even start fixing it. I could hang out on the IRC channels to get answers but then this is just a part time interest of mine and not a career.
When will ICS come out? Come on Samsung.
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It's not much, but I've started a device tree with some initial work on a CM9 port. If you've got a copy of CM9's repository, clone this repo into the device/samsung directory, then you'll be able to start working on building CM9: https://github.com/alanorth/device_samsung_galaxytab7p
Also, I have a kernel repo here: https://github.com/alanorth/samsung-kernel-p6200
And a collection of initramfs (including touch and non-touch ClockworkMod Recovery): https://github.com/alanorth/GT-P6200-initramfs
If you're at ALL interested in helping with development on this device (especially CM9), fork those repos and start experimenting with building/tweaking STOCK stuff first.
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Can I use this any of this for the GT-p210? Or is it GT-p200 specific only?
Edit: Nevermind I see that it's mostly device, android and vendor.mk stuff
To build ROMs we are going to need kernels, MIUI amd CM require an AOSP kernel which you can make following the instructions on the cyanogenmod wiki, it is way beyond me as I struggle with Linux in general. There are devs out there who only make kernels and maybe we could enlist their help in doing this.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Building_Kernel_from_source
Now according to cyanogenmod the wifi kernel is seperate and you need the drivers in order to fix it. And from what I understand the drivers for our device will not be released any time soon so this is going to be a real issue.
For porting over another touchwiz ROM we could use the stock kernel but you need the specific kernel for each version of android. Honeycomb kernels don't work with ICS or GB. But since there isn't much of a difference in the touchwiz ROMs between all the Galaxy Tabs why bother even doing this. Right now the only reason I see to try would be to get the 7.7 ICS ROM on our device but since we will be getting the upgrade soon anyways why bother. The upgrade will drop before you could ever get all the bugs worked out of it anyways in my opinion.
Here is the link for AOSP, explains all you need to set up a Linux PC to become a developer. An AOSP kernel will be critical to further development, right now all we could build would be an AOSP Honeycomb kernel as that is the only source code out. Samsung will eventually release the ICS kernel source sometime soon after ICS drops. I have a Linux box at home but I'm not very familar with it, also I think its the latest version which won't work. I really don't like working with Linux its a pain. I do everything in Windows using a virutal machine but should swtich over just because it what most devs use and its easier for them to help you if your on the same page so to speak.
http://s.android.com/index.html
Gladly take cm9 with no wifi
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Gladly take cm9 with no wifi
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snap!!! i would also love to see it on our tab. i would even consider forgetting WiFi till its fixed i want it that bad i don't see how some one has not made it with out WiFi just a basic platform to work with
Nice news! Every android device I had, I always found ROMs for. When I bought the P6200 I came here smiling and..... OOOPS no ROMS I was crying 'cuz I always had ONLY TO CHOOSE which one to flash with all my devices (such as Motorola Xoom or Galaxy Note)
I know this one doesn't pretty interest to devs or it has not much business (such as GS2 for example) but I hope we could see nice things soon (just 'cuz the worse thing is that for the old Tab 7...There're lots of ROMs :banghead: )
Let's wait so. And having MIUI here would be the best thing I ever had
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1. they have the source release for their device
2. samsung is being a b***h about releasing the source code for our lovely device...
3. we cant do a lot of thing without a source...
4. go head to development section to see some work...
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1. they have the source release for their device
2. samsung is being a b***h about releasing the source code for our lovely device...
3. we cant do a lot of thing without a source...
4. go head to development section to see some work...
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I know it all dude, and I've already seen the dev section Why are you all so touchy in Tab 7 Plus section?
Thanks
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Sorry if you feel were a little touchy here, its just that sometimes there complete noobs that come here to the forums and don't even think about checking the android development section or even bother to read other threads that hold the answer to their questions.
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Sorry if you feel were a little touchy here, its just that sometimes there complete noobs that come here to the forums and don't even think about checking the android development section or even bother to read other threads that hold the answer to their questions.
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Don't worry, I understand I even read about people asking always the same things bothering to read threads before posting
Thank you, it was really kind from you to explain Sorry for off-topic
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edan1979 said:
1. they have the source release for their device
2. samsung is being a b***h about releasing the source code for our lovely device...
3. we cant do a lot of thing without a source...
4. go head to development section to see some work...
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But we do have source aren't we?
Hi, sorry if this thread is short, but i have two question blowing my mind.
1: Why don't whe have a 4.0.4 Cyanogenmod Rom?
2: And can we have a stock 4.1.2 rom? I mean, with motoblur, not cyanogenmod or that kinda variants
I know that motorola isn't collaborating with its upgrades. But, there is any chance?
First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..
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First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
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I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.
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Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.
These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.
If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.
I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.
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And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:
1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.
Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.
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Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.
These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.
If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.
I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.
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And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:
1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.
Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.
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I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.
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I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.
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I am not mad BTW, I am just tired of people not doing their own research. You are more than welcome to do some reading on compiling Cyanogenmod, so that you understand what we are up against. Also try searching for compiling cyanogenmod on locked bootloaders.
We (all the A2 devs), have answered these same questions so many times now, it is not even funny. It seems that as of late people have gotten more and more lazy in here, and we just keep hashing the same crap over and over again.
You say it is from your own ignorance, but you do not have to be ignorant, just use the search function or do some reading on your own and find what you need. And I do not want to hear excuses or complaints about the search function, I use it all the time, all you have to do is play with the wording until you find what you want. Also note other devs did not answer your original query either, for probably the same reason, not to put words in their mouth's either.
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But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
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Also I hate to tell you but most of your devs do "team up" and we work together on our IRC chat room to do dev work, but again reading around the forms would have also told you that as well, as we talk about it quite often.
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
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I think only PA is 4.1.2 so far.. the others are 4.1.1, I think
And Jim's right, I also saw your post in the PA thread and started to reply, but discarded it because I felt I was sounding too mean.. let me try again:
I can say from my personal experience and (relatively low) skill level - it's a mess trying to get all the pieces in place to compile a working ROM from source code for our phone - specifically, the vendor and device files..
I know at least a few A2 devs are working to straighten things out for Edison directly - and a few others working on other Motos with similar hardware and locked bootloaders, which benefits us all.
It's probably safe to say that our phone is in the early stages of true ROM development (as opposed to derivative pseudo-roms and ports) - there is still a lot of work to be done to get something truly stable.
Again, please be patient, or learn and contribute... don't stir the pot.
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Hello everyone,
I have frequented XDA for a long time and have been rooting/unlocking my phones since I've had my first smartphone (s3). Until now, I haven't really had any questions pertaining to installing custom roms and the like.
My question is - can I install m8 roms that say they are for "all variants"? I ask because I'd like to start trying out different roms such as the AICP rom but have no idea if it will work on my phone. Any help is greatly appreciated.
I currently have an unlocked m8 running the GPE Marshmallow H10 rom found in the Android Dev section of this forum.
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Hello everyone,
I have frequented XDA for a long time and have been rooting/unlocking my phones since I've had my first smartphone (s3). Until now, I haven't really had any questions pertaining to installing custom roms and the like.
My question is - can I install m8 roms that say they are for "all variants"? I ask because I'd like to start trying out different roms such as the AICP rom but have no idea if it will work on my phone. Any help is greatly appreciated.
I currently have an unlocked m8 running the GPE Marshmallow H10 rom found in the Android Dev section of this forum.
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The way I see it, You better off flashing a ROM which has a thread within this forum. Otherwise it may not work "out of the box" sort to speak.
You actually have to make sure the "All Variants" is meant for the current version you're trying to flash. For instance, new Viper 5.x only works on unlocked/sprint. I think I tried one of the all variants ROMs once and it needed special modifications to work correctly. *shrug*
You could also ask in the AICP thread if there's anything special which needs to be flashed/modified for it to work.
Hi XDA experts
I am newly registered in the forum, but experienced in modding (more or less). But I am (for now) strictly a user, not developer.
So far I got along very well, with my beloved Galaxy S4 jfltexx. I got from stock to rooted stock, from there to cm, instantly back to stock, used it for a long time and am just now on cm13 nightly, which is truly awesome!
It is so awesome that I would really like to help other people out, even if they have no idea about this. Meaning I wish to modify other peoples phones for them. However, when it comes to other peoples property I can't really fight my way through technical terms I don't understand anymore, hoping that the outcome will be as I wished. I pretty much know what most of all these technical terms mean, but I don't always understand how they are related to each other. I know, explaining this will take a while, but I would REALLY appreciate it if someone would take the time...
The bootloader, can it be replaced? What would be the purpose of that?
What do custom ROMs typically consist of? An entire working system? Parts of a working system? Sometimes this sometimes that?
I'm asking the question because I got the impression that some custom ROMs require the user to have a certain (usually stock) ROM in order to flash it. For example, if I had a Galaxy S6 edge running 5.1.1, could I upgrade to noble ROM Marshmallow?
I also have the feeling that the ROM or system or whatever is somewhat seperate from the kernel. What is this relation? Do custom ROMs not always come with a compatible kernel? Is there only one kernel compatible to the rest of the system, or is there a chance to run a system with a kernel not particularly designed for it? How to get a 'wrong' kernel?
My Nandroids only run on my phone, right? I couldn't just flash them on my friends (same model) phone!?
Where to get stock ROMs and who provides them? If I wanted to upgrade from Lollipop to Marshmallow, but am rooted and don't get OTA updates, what do I do? Assuming that Nandroids are bound to a single device (e.g. MY phone) who can provide a stock ROM that runs on my device and how does he get it?
Can I run pure Android on any phone, or is it (always?) necessary to adjust it? I understand that my hardware buttons of the S4 would probably not work on pure Android, but the rest?
Thanks guys
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Thanks for using XDA Assist.
Try posting your query in Android Q&A,Help and Troubleshooting .Experts there may be able to answer your questions!
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Hello ? I'm frustrated so much, I've been trying to download custom roms for my mobile for almost three days now with no luck. I honselsty don't fully get why they're so important after a root, I mean if didn't install them would I be risking bricking my phone in the future? I'm a kind of a noob at this, so any advice or pointers would be so helpful and greatly appreciated ? Thanks.
Also I've seen all the threads on here concerning HTC desire 728 and custom roms, tried the methods there but they didn't work. I know starting a new thread about an old issue is a kind of a drag but I hoped someone would see this and answer me.
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Hello I'm frustrated so much, I've been trying to download custom roms for my mobile for almost three days now with no luck. I honselsty don't fully get why they're so important after a root, I mean if didn't install them would I be risking bricking my phone in the future? I'm a kind of a noob at this, so any advice or pointers would be so helpful and greatly appreciated Thanks.
Also I've seen all the threads on here concerning HTC desire 728 and custom roms, tried the methods there but they didn't work. I know starting a new thread about an old issue is a kind of a drag but I hoped someone would see this and answer me.
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Greetings and welcome to assist. If you are happy with just root then staying as you are is perfectly safe and there is no need to flash a custom rom. Most people flash a custom rom just to get the latest updates or a couple of new features.
If you have the dual sim version then most of the custom roms on xda will not work for your variant as it is different hardware. I did find this thread that I think has a custom rom for your variant
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire/general/urgent-help-htc-desire-728-malfunction-t3388534
Please always make certain that you only flash a custom rom that is compatible with your variant or you may brick your phone
Good Luck
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