where are there no roms for the gt 6210??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547152
p6210 has this one only
we have no rom as we have no codes Samsung will not let them go
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where are there no roms for the gt 6210??
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There are quite a few reasons we don't. Number one is that there is not a lot of interest in this device by developers. Gary right now is pretty much our only one and he has already said he eventually will get around to making ROMs but not right away. A few of us have the basic knowledge to maybe hack something together but without good kernels a lot of the hardware may or may not work, wifi for one. There are ways to get these things to work like porting over other devices kernels, but that is beyond most of us here. The 7.7's could be ported over as it has similar hardware and you could probably port over ICS from it too. You would need a good kernel developer who has the time to do it. On top of it Honeycomb isn't the easiest thing to make ROMs for, MIUI and CyanogenMod don't have Honeycomb versions. Once ICS drops we can use that kernel to at least try and port over MIUI 4 and CM9 but its still a lot of work and again having only one dev doesn't help. We will need a team effort to get a lot of it done.
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There are quite a few reasons we don't. Number one is that there is not a lot of interest in this device by developers. Gary right now is pretty much our only one and he has already said he eventually will get around to making ROMs but not right away. A few of us have the basic knowledge to maybe hack something together but without good kernels a lot of the hardware may or may not work, wifi for one. There are ways to get these things to work like porting over other devices kernels, but that is beyond most of us here. The 7.7's could be ported over as it has similar hardware and you could probably port over ICS from it too. You would need a good kernel developer who has the time to do it. On top of it Honeycomb isn't the easiest thing to make ROMs for, MIUI and CyanogenMod don't have Honeycomb versions. Once ICS drops we can use that kernel to at least try and port over MIUI 4 and CM9 but its still a lot of work and again having only one dev doesn't help. We will need a team effort to get a lot of it done.
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It's not much, but I've started a device tree with some initial work on a CM9 port. If you've got a copy of CM9's repository, clone this repo into the device/samsung directory, then you'll be able to start working on building CM9: https://github.com/alanorth/device_samsung_galaxytab7p
Also, I have a kernel repo here: https://github.com/alanorth/samsung-kernel-p6200
And a collection of initramfs (including touch and non-touch ClockworkMod Recovery): https://github.com/alanorth/GT-P6200-initramfs
If you're at ALL interested in helping with development on this device (especially CM9), fork those repos and start experimenting with building/tweaking STOCK stuff first.
I'm more interested in trying to port over MIUI 4 (ICS version). Been reading up on how to do it but really need the ICS kernel for our device first before I will even attempt it. I pretty much feel confident I could at least get a bootable version up and running but as far as fixing things that are broken that would take a lot more than I might be able to handle on my own. Say if wifi is broken I'm not sure where to go to even start fixing it. I could hang out on the IRC channels to get answers but then this is just a part time interest of mine and not a career.
When will ICS come out? Come on Samsung.
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It's not much, but I've started a device tree with some initial work on a CM9 port. If you've got a copy of CM9's repository, clone this repo into the device/samsung directory, then you'll be able to start working on building CM9: https://github.com/alanorth/device_samsung_galaxytab7p
Also, I have a kernel repo here: https://github.com/alanorth/samsung-kernel-p6200
And a collection of initramfs (including touch and non-touch ClockworkMod Recovery): https://github.com/alanorth/GT-P6200-initramfs
If you're at ALL interested in helping with development on this device (especially CM9), fork those repos and start experimenting with building/tweaking STOCK stuff first.
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Can I use this any of this for the GT-p210? Or is it GT-p200 specific only?
Edit: Nevermind I see that it's mostly device, android and vendor.mk stuff
To build ROMs we are going to need kernels, MIUI amd CM require an AOSP kernel which you can make following the instructions on the cyanogenmod wiki, it is way beyond me as I struggle with Linux in general. There are devs out there who only make kernels and maybe we could enlist their help in doing this.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Building_Kernel_from_source
Now according to cyanogenmod the wifi kernel is seperate and you need the drivers in order to fix it. And from what I understand the drivers for our device will not be released any time soon so this is going to be a real issue.
For porting over another touchwiz ROM we could use the stock kernel but you need the specific kernel for each version of android. Honeycomb kernels don't work with ICS or GB. But since there isn't much of a difference in the touchwiz ROMs between all the Galaxy Tabs why bother even doing this. Right now the only reason I see to try would be to get the 7.7 ICS ROM on our device but since we will be getting the upgrade soon anyways why bother. The upgrade will drop before you could ever get all the bugs worked out of it anyways in my opinion.
Here is the link for AOSP, explains all you need to set up a Linux PC to become a developer. An AOSP kernel will be critical to further development, right now all we could build would be an AOSP Honeycomb kernel as that is the only source code out. Samsung will eventually release the ICS kernel source sometime soon after ICS drops. I have a Linux box at home but I'm not very familar with it, also I think its the latest version which won't work. I really don't like working with Linux its a pain. I do everything in Windows using a virutal machine but should swtich over just because it what most devs use and its easier for them to help you if your on the same page so to speak.
http://s.android.com/index.html
Gladly take cm9 with no wifi
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Gladly take cm9 with no wifi
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snap!!! i would also love to see it on our tab. i would even consider forgetting WiFi till its fixed i want it that bad i don't see how some one has not made it with out WiFi just a basic platform to work with
Nice news! Every android device I had, I always found ROMs for. When I bought the P6200 I came here smiling and..... OOOPS no ROMS I was crying 'cuz I always had ONLY TO CHOOSE which one to flash with all my devices (such as Motorola Xoom or Galaxy Note)
I know this one doesn't pretty interest to devs or it has not much business (such as GS2 for example) but I hope we could see nice things soon (just 'cuz the worse thing is that for the old Tab 7...There're lots of ROMs :banghead: )
Let's wait so. And having MIUI here would be the best thing I ever had
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1. they have the source release for their device
2. samsung is being a b***h about releasing the source code for our lovely device...
3. we cant do a lot of thing without a source...
4. go head to development section to see some work...
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1. they have the source release for their device
2. samsung is being a b***h about releasing the source code for our lovely device...
3. we cant do a lot of thing without a source...
4. go head to development section to see some work...
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I know it all dude, and I've already seen the dev section Why are you all so touchy in Tab 7 Plus section?
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Sorry if you feel were a little touchy here, its just that sometimes there complete noobs that come here to the forums and don't even think about checking the android development section or even bother to read other threads that hold the answer to their questions.
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Sorry if you feel were a little touchy here, its just that sometimes there complete noobs that come here to the forums and don't even think about checking the android development section or even bother to read other threads that hold the answer to their questions.
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Don't worry, I understand I even read about people asking always the same things bothering to read threads before posting
Thank you, it was really kind from you to explain Sorry for off-topic
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edan1979 said:
1. they have the source release for their device
2. samsung is being a b***h about releasing the source code for our lovely device...
3. we cant do a lot of thing without a source...
4. go head to development section to see some work...
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But we do have source aren't we?
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So Im really just getting into Android development. Learning all I can made a couple basic apps. I am a bit more interested in ROM and Kernel development. My general question is. Making a ICS ROM for Xoom is difficult not because compiling the source itself is difficult but because there isnt a publicly available ICS kernel for Xoom yet right? Or am I completely off base here?
Yup thats more or less correct. Only device files for the nexus line have been released with ICS so far. And since android needs to be built for a specific device you need the device specific files including things like drivers.
It's the stage where i get stuck as well, currently going trough the motodev website to find things like drivers and or any other Xoom specific files. I'm guessing team Tiamat is hacking it together themselves currently because they have the knowlegde of how to build kernels and stuff and can start with their HC base to see what works.
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Yup thats more or less correct. Only device files for the nexus line have been released with ICS so far. And since android needs to be built for a specific device you need the device specific files including things like drivers.
It's the stage where i get stuck as well, currently going trough the motodev website to find things like drivers and or any other Xoom specific files. I'm guessing team Tiamat is hacking it together themselves currently because they have the knowlegde of how to build kernels and stuff and can start with their HC base to see what works.
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Exactly the answer I was looking for thanks!
hi!!!!!!!!!!http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19469990#post19469990
http://aosp.mikegapinski.cba.pl/?page_id=14
in the above links you can see that ics have been ported to armv6 processor so i think with some hard work of the developers we can get it too
Very interesting! LG Optimus is also Armv6 & the screen shots, progress looks promising..hope someone like Marcellusbe or Hillbeast can look into this project..
For the Galaxy 3, I think it will be far more easier than CM7 because of all the work of marcellusbe (especially for the device config).
Even me, with my limited knowledge of device porting, managed to build AOSP ICS yesterday.
Check the CM7 development thread, Apollo and marcellusbe successful boot ICS.
very interresting, my wife has that phone hehe so ill keep an eye on that thread. thnx.
Dont know (yet) about aosp, but i gave a try to cm9, and it comes up with a lot of errors.
I'll try on with aosp today, see if it's easier to compile for the time...
Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude
thanks ! Synching repo now...
I know marcellusbe and apollo (and maybe hillbeast too) successfully compiled it for our phone, but dont know if it's booting properly...
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Dont know (yet) about aosp, but i gave a try to cm9, and it comes up with a lot of errors.
I'll try on with aosp today, see if it's easier to compile for the time...
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I tried both. But there are the same errors. (quite easy to fix though)
If you want I'll help you to fix them.
For AOSP, you have to modify a bit the device config before starting the compilation.
After, when you'll try to boot ICS, you'll need a custom kernel because BOOTCLASSPATH (in the init.rc) has changed. If you want, I'll upload my custom version of g3mod which supports ICS, GB and Froyo.
But I think we should move to the "official" thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361827&page=6
I fixed couple of errors on cm9 yesterday , but i wanted to try on aosp, see if it was cleaner !
Thanks a lot for your help, i accept with great pleasure.
I'd love to post in the dev section, but i've not reached the 10 posts limit, so i'm condemned to stay here a bit longer...
No worries, i'll come asap
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I fixed couple of errors on cm9 yesterday , but i wanted to try on aosp, see if it was cleaner !
Thanks a lot for your help, i accept with great pleasure.
I'd love to post in the dev section, but i've not reached the 10 posts limit, so i'm condemned to stay here a bit longer...
No worries, i'll come asap
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you mean it works ?? if so you can release/upload a .tar file (odin) so we all can try c9 with ics... ,. and yupp ( cm9 = 100 X stock ics )
It needs a lot of fixes (i'm stuck at the audio part in aosp) before having something really usable.
Lots of people way more clever than i am are also working on that, so maybe someone will find a fix...
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Hello, I am new to XDA-Developers and so this isn't in the Development forum and I'm sorry for that. What I need to ask is about making a ROM. I want to make a ROM out of the AOSP Jelly Bean ROM, and port it to the Triumph:laugh:, but I don't know about compatibility issues. My question is: Do any of you guys know if the Triumph is compatible with dsixda's ROM Kitchen? It isn't on the supported devices list, but dsixda himself said that more devices might work with it, so if any of you have tried using the Kitchen I'd like your help. Thanks.
Good to see that you're motivated, but there's already a major roadblock to widespread ICS adoption on the Triumph because the camera won't work and the files needed to get it working aren't publicly available. You'll probably run into the same issues, making this project kinda dead in the water.
Good luck but the kitchen can only do so much. If you do use it, you will have to make manual edits to get things to work. But I don't think you can just port JB to our phones, especially with the kitchen. You will need to build from source, I am pretty sure. But don't let me stop you, just trying to give you a heads up. Try some things out and then ask some questions in the forums and somebody should be able to help you get on the right path.
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Good luck but the kitchen can only do so much. If you do use it, you will have to make manual edits to get things to work. But I don't think you can just port JB to our phones, especially with the kitchen. You will need to build from source, I am pretty sure. But don't let me stop you, just trying to give you a heads up. Try some things out and then ask some questions in the forums and somebody should be able to help you get on the right path.
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I am going to try an experimental build on my friend's Triumph (I don't have one) and I'll post in this thread the results, and then I'll go from there.
I don't think that dsixda's kitchen works with the Motorola Triumph. I currently use it for the Galaxy S2 SGH-t989! But in the near future updates he may have add support for that device! And if you wanted to do Jelly Bean then you would have to get the android source code and build it from source! Building from source is much harder than building from port.
I really hope this helped and I wish you the best of luck with your development!
So I am fed up with T-Mobile and Samsung not releasing a ics update for this phone. I wan't to try the new features like facelock and android beam ( really helpful). Well can we start from scratch also is there a guide to do that? It would be really awesome if someone posted a link for it.
Well I'm not sure what you are asking but are you saying if we can do a ICS kernel without source? Yes it's possible if we use the s2 source but with heavy modifications to run on our phone. Doubt there is a guide for it anywhere, though if you have an understanding of Linux kernels and a few languages like C, C++ and Java you can help us get there.
Another way we can get cm9 or any ics varient we can modify our current 2.6.35.11+ kernel to make it run cm9.
I suggest or rather think the easiest way is the waiting way because by the time you or I or anyone gets anything close to a working build the source will drop. This would be a good idea if the blaze wasn't getting ICS at all but it is.
So for now lets enjoy GB a little more I got a rom update uploading and dwitherell is also updating his awesome rom
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Okay still love the darknight rom although holo launcher gets somewhat laggy sometimes.. but is there a guide for modifying the kernel to create cm9? any help would be appreciated.
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Okay still love the darknight rom although holo launcher gets somewhat laggy sometimes.. but is there a guide for modifying the kernel to create cm9? any help would be appreciated.
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Well i just release build8 and no more holo launcher
As for a guide, there isn't one. There's guides on how to make your own kernel from the source drop and the initramfs from a stock rom but to modify the 2.6.35.11(gb) kernel to work with cm9/ics takes a lot of work and a lot of backporting and unfortunately every kernel is different as every phone is which is why no guide is ever accurate. Honestly, the best way to contribute is learn a few languages and start learning slowly. Unless, of course, you have knowledge on linux kernels then that'd be awesome
Either way i started a channel on irc #teamfah-q. That is where team fah-q(merwin, flyers00, thomas.raines, and myself) hangs out and shares ideas with each other and talk about changes and we do drop leaks to our builds and mods and the such. Join us on the channel.
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So I am fed up with T-Mobile and Samsung not releasing a ics update for this phone. I wan't to try the new features like facelock and android beam ( really helpful). Well can we start from scratch also is there a guide to do that? It would be really awesome if someone posted a link for it.
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I tried exactly this once... and let me tell you, it's REALLY difficult. I started with a T989 kernel and after months of work, still had a non-booting kernel.
I'm starting again, but moving much slower since I have an S3 now. I'm also trying to get a "console" on the device so I can see if the thing is actually booting at all.
Joy.
Good luck if you want to start in on this, I wish you the best
Hi, sorry if this thread is short, but i have two question blowing my mind.
1: Why don't whe have a 4.0.4 Cyanogenmod Rom?
2: And can we have a stock 4.1.2 rom? I mean, with motoblur, not cyanogenmod or that kinda variants
I know that motorola isn't collaborating with its upgrades. But, there is any chance?
First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..
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First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
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I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.
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Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.
These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.
If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.
I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.
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And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:
1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.
Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.
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Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.
These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.
If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.
I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.
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And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:
1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.
Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.
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I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.
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I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.
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I am not mad BTW, I am just tired of people not doing their own research. You are more than welcome to do some reading on compiling Cyanogenmod, so that you understand what we are up against. Also try searching for compiling cyanogenmod on locked bootloaders.
We (all the A2 devs), have answered these same questions so many times now, it is not even funny. It seems that as of late people have gotten more and more lazy in here, and we just keep hashing the same crap over and over again.
You say it is from your own ignorance, but you do not have to be ignorant, just use the search function or do some reading on your own and find what you need. And I do not want to hear excuses or complaints about the search function, I use it all the time, all you have to do is play with the wording until you find what you want. Also note other devs did not answer your original query either, for probably the same reason, not to put words in their mouth's either.
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But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
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Also I hate to tell you but most of your devs do "team up" and we work together on our IRC chat room to do dev work, but again reading around the forms would have also told you that as well, as we talk about it quite often.
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
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I think only PA is 4.1.2 so far.. the others are 4.1.1, I think
And Jim's right, I also saw your post in the PA thread and started to reply, but discarded it because I felt I was sounding too mean.. let me try again:
I can say from my personal experience and (relatively low) skill level - it's a mess trying to get all the pieces in place to compile a working ROM from source code for our phone - specifically, the vendor and device files..
I know at least a few A2 devs are working to straighten things out for Edison directly - and a few others working on other Motos with similar hardware and locked bootloaders, which benefits us all.
It's probably safe to say that our phone is in the early stages of true ROM development (as opposed to derivative pseudo-roms and ports) - there is still a lot of work to be done to get something truly stable.
Again, please be patient, or learn and contribute... don't stir the pot.
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