Hi guys...
so, i bought a Razr HD XT925 and it still didnt arrive, but till it happens i want to be ready to root the phone, so i can install titanium backup and erase some **** that will come like some google apps.
i've read some threads about rooting the phone and i realized that a lot of people talk about this "bootloader"
i had a galaxy s2 and i've never had to worry about this, but in the root threads of Razr HD i see people arguing about it...
i dont know if the phone will arrive with the last update(4.1.2), probably will cause its a long time this update has been out...so i have the following questions:
1) If the phone comes with whether 4.0.4 ICS or 4.1.2 JB, do i need to do something about Bootloader beore rooting it? if yes, what?
2) what's the best way to root? any link for a good thread?
i just dont want to get the phone and in the first day screw him up...
that's why i need to ask this.
thanks in advance
xubeiga said:
Hi guys...
so, i bought a Razr HD XT925 and it still didnt arrive, but till it happens i want to be ready to root the phone, so i can install titanium backup and erase some **** that will come like some google apps.
i've read some threads about rooting the phone and i realized that a lot of people talk about this "bootloader"
i had a galaxy s2 and i've never had to worry about this, but in the root threads of Razr HD i see people arguing about it...
i dont know if the phone will arrive with the last update(4.1.2), probably will cause its a long time this update has been out...so i have the following questions:
1) If the phone comes with whether 4.0.4 ICS or 4.1.2 JB, do i need to do something about Bootloader beore rooting it? if yes, what?
2) what's the best way to root? any link for a good thread?
i just dont want to get the phone and in the first day screw him up...
that's why i need to ask this.
thanks in advance
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When I bought my phone, it was on JellyBean. I used the Motorola instructions to unlock the bootloader (It seems to work in all Razr HD except the US / Verizon ones where you need to have the DEV edition).
Then I flashed recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
And then installed SuperSU http://download.chainfire.eu/298/SuperSU/
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When I bought my phone, it was on JellyBean. I used the Motorola instructions to unlock the bootloader (It seems to work in all Razr HD except the US / Verizon ones where you need to have the DEV edition).
Then I flashed recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
And then installed SuperSU http://download.chainfire.eu/298/SuperSU/
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thanks mate! i will sure try this in a few days.
so after doing these 3 steps, the device got Rooted and working perfectly?
I wonder why is it necessary to unlock this bootloader. why i didnt have to do it in the SGS II? maybe cause Samsung already let it unlocked?
i realized that when i unlock the bootloader i lose the cover by Motorola, so, is it possible to "lock" the bootloader again?
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i saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
this one doesnt say anything about unlocking, maybe the script does itself?
xubeiga said:
thanks mate! i will sure try this in a few days.
so after doing these 3 steps, the device got Rooted and working perfectly?
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Yes, I did that and have no problem (I did it like 4 month ago)
xubeiga said:
I wonder why is it necessary to unlock this bootloader. why i didnt have to do it in the SGS II? maybe cause Samsung already let it unlocked?
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I don't know, every phone has it issues, I remember having to backup the radio and the EFS partition on my Samsung, I didn't have to do any of that on my motorola and with my LG was as easy as installing a script.
xubeiga said:
i realized that when i unlock the bootloader i lose the cover by Motorola, so, is it possible to "lock" the bootloader again?
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I don't think so...
xubeiga said:
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i saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
this one doesnt say anything about unlocking, maybe the script does itself?
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Yes, I remember that when I bought my phone I just root it without unlocking the bootlader (using the MotoChopper tool I think), I waited 6 month until warranty time was over and then I unlocked the bootloader
I'm not really sure of any of this, but i think that...
With locked bootloader you can't install custom ROMs and you will lose root if you OTA update your device (have in mind that there is currently there is no way to root KK in this device).
pbosio said:
Yes, I did that and have no problem (I did it like 4 month ago)
I don't know, every phone has it issues, I remember having to backup the radio and the EFS partition on my Samsung, I didn't have to do any of that on my motorola and with my LG was as easy as installing a script.
I don't think so...
Yes, I remember that when I bought my phone I just root it without unlocking the bootlader (using the MotoChopper tool I think), I waited 6 month until warranty time was over and then I unlocked the bootloader
I'm not really sure of any of this, but i think that...
With locked bootloader you can't install custom ROMs and you will lose root if you OTA update your device (have in mind that there is currently there is no way to root KK in this device).
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so, basically, it isnt necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the phone?
i really dont want to flash custom roms. not right now. i just want to root the phone so i can use Titanium Backup to uninstall some apps that i don't use, which will just waste my memory and battery!
edit: i just read that there are 2 programs. this motochopper and one called motopocalypse.
the motochopper is to root the phone and the other one is to unlock bootloader. and you can't unlock bootloader if your device isnt rooted.
so i can just use the motochopper, root it, and the device will be rooted and still working fine, without bootloader unlocked and i would still have the cover from Motorola? am i correct?
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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well, as i said that i don't want to flash custom roms, this must not be a problem for me
but dully noted for the future!
here in brazil the official KK 4.4.2 is not released yet
xubeiga said:
so i can just use the motochopper, root it, and the device will be rooted and still working fine, without bootloader unlocked and i would still have the cover from Motorola? am i correct?
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Yes, that is correct, take in mind that probably you will still lose cover from Motorola if you root it, but you can unroot before taking your device to Motorola's service if you have any issue...
xubeiga said:
well, as i said that i don't want to flash custom roms, this must not be a problem for me
but dully noted for the future!
here in brazil the official KK 4.4.2 is not released yet
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Stupid me, I didn't read. You have an XT925 so you can "legally" unlock it, no exploit needed like it was with the XT926, so you should still have the ability to sideload root on Kit Kat, like those of us with unlocked XT926s. So, disregard my incoherent ramblings earlier! :silly:
pbosio said:
Yes, that is correct, take in mind that probably you will still lose cover from Motorola if you root it, but you can unroot before taking your device to Motorola's service if you have any issue...
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yes, that's exactly what i want and exactly what i'm thinking.
just root the device and dont mess with the bootloader, and if anything happens and i need the cover from Motorola, i can just unroot it!
thanks for all your answers. :victory:
iBolski said:
Stupid me, I didn't read. You have an XT925 so you can "legally" unlock it, no exploit needed like it was with the XT926, so you should still have the ability to sideload root on Kit Kat, like those of us with unlocked XT926s. So, disregard my incoherent ramblings earlier! :silly:
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no problems mate!!
even you understanding it wrong, i still learned a few with your answer :good:
thanks!
xubeiga said:
yes, that's exactly what i want and exactly what i'm thinking.
just root the device and dont mess with the bootloader, and if anything happens and i need the cover from Motorola, i can just unroot it!
thanks for all your answers. :victory:
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They can tell if you rooted it or not. When you start to boot up into stock recovery, you'll see a QE code on the Andy screen. A qe code of 0/0 means it's not rooted and it's never been rooted.
1/1 means it's currently rooted and it's been rooted before.
0/1 means it's currently not rooted but it's been rooted before.
At least, that's what has been guessed as to what the values mean, but definitely, if it's 0/0, then the phone has never been rooted before. Any values other than 0 to the left or right of the slash means the phone has been rooted before, which means you're warranty is voided.
So, they can tell when you've rooted it. And there's no known way of clearing those values out.
In any case, if you're going to root, you might as well unlock it as well because they can determine if it's been rooted anyways, which will void your warranty.
iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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Forgive me if im asking something already answered. If you have a locked bootloader and on KitKat, is it possible to flash with sbf to an earlier software version, root, then just dont update? Or if the bootloader is locked does this mean that you cant flash anything at all? I only need root, probably like everyone else on KitKat. LoL. Just curious if theres a way to flash to an earlier version. How do you know if your bootloader is locked? Im not familiar with this version.
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Android.Ninja said:
Forgive me if im asking something already answered. If you have a locked bootloader and on KitKat, is it possible to flash with sbf to an earlier software version, root, then just dont update? Or if the bootloader is locked does this mean that you cant flash anything at all? I only need root, probably like everyone else on KitKat. LoL. Just curious if theres a way to flash to an earlier version. How do you know if your bootloader is locked? Im not familiar with this version.
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This should answer your question. It's earlier in this thread where I answered this question:
iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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Once on KitKat, you are stuck. You cannot revert back to a previous version (you WILL brick your phone).
A little research goes a long way. This has been discussed to death since KitKat came out.
iBolski said:
This should answer your question. It's earlier in this thread where I answered this question:
Once on KitKat, you are stuck. You cannot revert back to a previous version (you WILL brick your phone).
A little research goes a long way. This has been discussed to death since KitKat came out.
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Thanks for the explanation, unfortunately "Reasearching" this is not possible when Tapatalk has a "Noted & Known issue" with its search function. Their support team is working diligently for a resolution. Maybe you didn't see my sig line indicating I was utilizing Tapatalk.
LOL. "Research does go along way if properly utilized".
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iBolski said:
They can tell if you rooted it or not. When you start to boot up into stock recovery, you'll see a QE code on the Andy screen. A qe code of 0/0 means it's not rooted and it's never been rooted.
1/1 means it's currently rooted and it's been rooted before.
0/1 means it's currently not rooted but it's been rooted before.
At least, that's what has been guessed as to what the values mean, but definitely, if it's 0/0, then the phone has never been rooted before. Any values other than 0 to the left or right of the slash means the phone has been rooted before, which means you're warranty is voided.
So, they can tell when you've rooted it. And there's no known way of clearing those values out.
In any case, if you're going to root, you might as well unlock it as well because they can determine if it's been rooted anyways, which will void your warranty.
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wow, that's unfortunate
xubeiga said:
wow, that's unfortunate
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That's been going on since ICS, I believe. So, it's nothing new. I remember when the news came out about it a few years ago. I've seen it on my Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX and now on my RAZR HD.
I don't know if it's only on Motorola phones or all android phones. All my Android phones have been Motorola with the exception of my first Android phone, which was an LG Vortex.
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That's been going on since ICS, I believe. So, it's nothing new. I remember when the news came out about it a few years ago. I've seen it on my Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX and now on my RAZR HD.
I don't know if it's only on Motorola phones or all android phones. All my Android phones have been Motorola with the exception of my first Android phone, which was an LG Vortex.
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I've heard about it on some Samsung phones, and they go even farther and track how many times someone has flashed roms and such...Chainfire has some tools just for them. Look up Triangle Away.
yep, i had a Galaxy S2(which i dont have anymore cause i've been stolen), and in my first day with it, i rooted, flashed a custom rom, and then some months after, the usb connector stopped working properly. and the phone still had smth like 4 months of warranty...
i had to do a lot of things to reset it.
flash stock firmware with odin, then use this triangle away, then unroot, etc etc etc...well at least i could reset it and send to warranty without they knowing it
Hi Everyone,
I have a Droid Mini running on Android 4.4. Running on Straight Talk service.
Is it possible to root my device? I am not sure how to determine if my bootloader is unlocked.
I mainly would like to root my device to use TitaniumBackUp to back up and restore my device. I am not sure of another app that will allow me to backup and restore my apps, app data and settings, without my device being rooted.
Any and all help is appreciated.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!!
TolaSkamp said:
Hi Everyone,
I have a Droid Mini running on Android 4.4. Running on Straight Talk service.
Is it possible to root my device? I am not sure how to determine if my bootloader is unlocked.
I mainly would like to root my device to use TitaniumBackUp to back up and restore my device. I am not sure of another app that will allow me to backup and restore my apps, app data and settings, without my device being rooted.
Any and all help is appreciated.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!!
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Other than the fact this is not the right section to be posting a question, I'll try and answer it anyways.
No BL unlock, not unless you can get the bootloader unlocked via a tool, verizons website, or the china guys service for ~25$USD which can all be found by a simple google.
You can try the Sunshine Bootloader unlock apk, however at 4.4.4 I am unable to use it (Droid Ultra)
The 4.4 Bounty thread is HERE which appears to have minimal attention at the moment
And HERE is the latest news on the China mans service, which appears to have gone and passed by now.
To root directly, you can give all the tools a try, and all the downloadable apks and give them a run, one by one, until you get to the realization you are stuck with what you have - unless you can downgrade and then root/bl unlock. Which by my knowledge, you can't - but I may be mistaken. Only reason I say you cant though, is if you could so could others, and there would already be more posts about it.
The last and final suggestion, buy a new mobo/chipset that had your OS of your preferred version installed prior so you can have immediate access. This is a tricky one however, due to this requiring you to tear apart your phone which isn't something most people feel comfortable doing. You also are at the mercy of whoever or wherever you buy the mobo/chipset from - as it could have water damage, or other faults negating the idea of having root to begin with (if your phone crashes every 10 minutes or so due to a short).
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You're screwed, for the time being.
Hey guys, I just received a complimentary LG G5 (VS987) last week from Verizon as a means of making up for the Marshmallow update continually destroying my LG G3 and its replacements Anyway, it's a great phone, but I've been disappointed so far to find that there's no root method at the moment. At least not one I can find easily. Do you guys know if there's a method hidden away out there or if a particular developer is working on it right now?
I really hope one comes out soon and this doesn't become another crap phone but so far no. I just upgraded to this phone assuming a root would come soon but marshmallow phones on Verizon are death! Can't wait for CyanogenModbut right now you'll have to wait.
I just got the LG G5 Verizon variant as well on Friday. Was a little reluctant because of possibly not being able to root and unlock boot loader. Subscribing to this thread because I hope there will be support for this soon. Kinda hoping there would be a solution like Safestrap was for the galaxy s5, and then installing an LG version of the Samsung_bootloader_unlocker.
Abramelin said:
I just got the LG G5 Verizon variant as well on Friday. Was a little reluctant because of possibly not being able to root and unlock boot loader. Subscribing to this thread because I hope there will be support for this soon. Kinda hoping there would be a solution like Safestrap was for the galaxy s5, and then installing an LG version of the Samsung_bootloader_unlocker.
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There is hope! With the quadrooter exploits being discovered we may have root soon :3
Nathamio said:
There is hope! With the quadrooter exploits being discovered we may have root soon :3
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I don't see that at all, since the issue of a locked bootloader remains an obstacle on the G5.
Temp rooting is the solution for that, once we can get temp rooted we can find workarounds to enable unlocking.
Temp rooting has been possible for a many a moon on the G5, but that hasn't enabled anyone to unlock the bootloader
Maybe not yet. But it is plausible that a temp root would grant access to boot loader. If the G5 becomes popular enough LG might do it for us. I heard they've done it for Europe variants but said they don't plan for any other. It might be 3-5 years from now but who knows really. I'm sure someone clever enough will figure out a work around eventually. I work with Arch Linux so I'm not used to being controlled like this. If it weren't for me getting this phone for free, I would definitely have gotten one I *could* root and all.
jpradley said:
Temp rooting has been possible for a many a moon on the G5, but that hasn't enabled anyone to unlock the bootloader
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Can you post that link?
What about this option?
I'm a new user, so I can't post the link, but did a Google search for VS987 custom rom and came up with this: search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-lg-g5-vs987-marshmallow-6-0-1/
Barook said:
I'm a new user, so I can't post the link, but did a Google search for VS987 custom rom and came up with this: search4roots.com/how-to-easily-root-lg-g5-vs987-marshmallow-6-0-1/
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Spam site
andyroidking said:
Spam site
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This is how you get the viruses.
Hi. My Nexus dumped, I got a G5. Where's the temp root? I will see what I can do for your boot loader. Few questions about the G series I need answered:
Flashing tools used on other variants
Leaked signing tools?
LG G series boot loader format
Encryption on this boot loader
Get me temp root and answer these questions and ill push the locked image here to work on.
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Hi. My Nexus dumped, I got a G5. Where's the temp root? I will see what I can do for your boot loader. Few questions about the G series I need answered:
Flashing tools used on other variants
Leaked signing tools?
LG G series boot loader format
Encryption on this boot loader
Get me temp root and answer these questions and ill push the locked image here to work on.
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You ever get the info you needed? I've heard of people gaining temp root with the 987 but I've never seen the published method or any real evidence of it.
So I'm assuming this is not legit?
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/06/root-lg-g5-verizon-vs987-601-marshmallow.html?m=1
LupineDream said:
Hi. My Nexus dumped, I got a G5. Where's the temp root? I will see what I can do for your boot loader. Few questions about the G series I need answered:
Flashing tools used on other variants
Leaked signing tools?
LG G series boot loader format
Encryption on this boot loader
Get me temp root and answer these questions and ill push the locked image here to work on.
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Artimis said:
So I'm assuming this is not legit?
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2016/06/root-lg-g5-verizon-vs987-601-marshmallow.html?m=1
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Have you tried it? I assume if there is root, it'd be placed on XDA dev for sure.
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Have you tried it? I assume if there is root, it'd be placed on XDA dev for sure.
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No, I don't have a G5 yet. I plan on ordering one in 8 days when my contract is eligible for renewal but I've never owned a phone I couldn't root and don't know how I feel about it. Unfortunately, that seems to be the case with pretty much all VZW phones now.
The ones that can be rooted, I'll need to make other sacrifices on like non-removable storage, non-replaceable battery, no IR blaster, etc. Makes me really appreciate my G3
Artimis said:
No, I don't have a G5 yet. I plan on ordering one in 8 days when my contract is eligible for renewal but I've never owned a phone I couldn't root and don't know how I feel about it. Unfortunately, that seems to be the case with pretty much all VZW phones now.
The ones that can be rooted, I'll need to make other sacrifices on like non-removable storage, non-replaceable battery, no IR blaster, etc. Makes me really appreciate my G3
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The G3 is still by far my favorite Android phone. If I could go back to it, I would in a heartbeat. I eventually had mine brick. But this phone has been nothing but a disappointment...mainly for lack of root.
None of the files from that site seem to be infested with a virus, however their instructions are not very clear on how to use it all. Unless I am just not reading it correctly.
Wow, this is sad news indeed. I too have loved my G3, but this is due in large part to me having root. I was considering upgrading to the G5 simply because I expect to see deep discounts on Black Friday, but no root means no thank you. I will have to find another "root" to the future.