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Hello everyone. I've a sort of proposal for the developers here, but before I get into that let me first briefly introduce myself:
I'm a communication designer for print, user interface, and illustration that completely advocates everything Android. I've been lurking the Dream development forums here for quite some time, trying to keep up-to-date with the latest ROMs, apps, etc., etc and I fully appreciate everything that goes on here and the endeavors that you devs put yourself through. Amazing stuff, really.
One thing I've noticed is that there are a slew of third-party / beta apps all over these boards, and other places on the internet as well. More often than not, I find myself scouring the cloud just to find a link for these non-market apps, and I usually get referred to them via some obscure site through another site. Despite getting the .apk file or ROM in the end, the process can get to be a bit tedious; especially for incoming users and those new to the Android platform.
My proposal is this: A website with a simple and clean user interface that has direct and succinct navigation with the purpose of consolidating and listing third-party / beta non-market applications into an easy access database. This website database would link these applications and have them be easily downloaded and installed via the Android browser, without having to mount the device.
I've actually come up with a fully-functional concept site, did the branding and everything for it, and also registered a short domain name for quick access while on your G1 or whatever Android device.
Navigate to: http://anda.pk to see what I had in mind, and how the overall layout/concept of the site would work.
I uploaded several .apk files I had backed up as examples for you to see how the database section would function. I also took into account the resolution of most Android phones and made the .apk application database section fit perfectly in the Android browser when in portrait mode right when you the load the site to ensure the best possible user experience when installing these third party apps. When you scroll to the right, you'll see info on what the site is about, and in the footer there are links to the FAQ, the about section, contact, etc.
I had also noted in the about link in the footer that the applications hosted on the download section are in no way accredited to the site, and that credit goes to their rightful developers. My being a communication designer has had the idea of peer collaboration engrained, and as such I give credit it where credit is due.
That said, I hope you guys here and the developers collaborate with me on on this site, possibly help contribute apks, and agree to them being hosted. If anything, I do hope you just embrace the concept, which originally was just going to be a reference for myself and my friends whom I've turned away from the iPhone, S60, and WinMo in favor of Android. I figured since I know the Android community is only going to get bigger, this website concept of mine could be a decent resource to have bookmarked.
Appreciate you reading this wall of text! Do hope to hear some feedback, so let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
Cheers.
I think this is a fabulous idea...automated version control would go over very well -- i.e. yum update
you should post up bits that you need help with and have folks contact you.
also..I love the logo!
question: do you propose a rating system or a review prior to listing type of approach or something new to keep this resource trustworthy?
Been following this on SA and twitter and it's a great idea.
Having the devs here on board would be a fantastic way to get something solid on the go. It's the kind of thing that can really help android become more hackable and useable for the average user...and it just make things easier for the rest of us.
Sounds good to me.
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the applications hosted on the download section are in no way accredited to the site
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Credit and accreditation are different things. To be accredited is to be given credentials or official approval. I think you meant "credited".
Sounds like a GREAT idea.
My opinion: The color scheme hurts. Love the logo.
i like the logo and the idea. I think the site should be more mobile friendly, or even better, an application for android that can work like the official market. I could help with that part if an application is going to be built.
camalot said:
i like the logo and the idea. I think the site should be more mobile friendly, or even better, an application for android that can work like the official market. I could help with that part if an application is going to be built.
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i second that.. it should also have update checks if possible
I was going to complain that I didn't like your site layout, but in portrait mode you only see the left side which lists the apps. I like it.
One thing you might have to be leary of is dealing with apps that are considered warez unless your going to spend the time to verify every app that is uploaded or there has to a method in place.
As well there should be some kind of version control in place. You know what works on 1.1 and what works on 1.5. Obviously almost everybody within the next few weeks/months should be on 1.5, but will all the older apps run on 1.5 or does it really matter or does anybody care? The downloader will care.
CBowley said:
Sounds like a GREAT idea.
My opinion: The color scheme hurts. Love the logo.
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Seconded. The text is much too light. A darker charcoal shade would be much better.
If the site gets an apk wrapper (a la FBook) version checking would be rather easy. Set up the directory tree something like this /downloads/WiFiTether/1.2.3.apk and just have the apk compare filenames. If the file names don't match, it needs to install the update.
EDIT: Now following your progress on twitter.
Some solid input. I'll play around with the color scheme and make some changes later this evening once I get back from class. And I actually do plan on making a mobile wrapper eventually, but as it stands as far as the concept layout goes, the site is best used when in portrait mode for easiest functionality. The rest of the site is to be considered supplemental. I do however, have a lot of things I eventually want to integrate; application tags, search, possibility of user uploaded apk files, etc. But for right now, I'm trying to keep the general site as simple as possible to make the workload on my end less stressful (graduating in 2 weeks).
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If the site gets an apk wrapper (a la FBook) version checking would be rather easy. Set up the directory tree something like this /downloads/WiFiTether/1.2.3.apk and just have the apk compare filenames. If the file names don't match, it needs to install the update.
EDIT: Now following your progress on twitter.
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Did not know how that version checker worked. Thanks. I'll re-work the apk directory scheme akin to that later tonight for when I do eventually get the wrapper up.
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Did not know how that version checker worked. Thanks. I'll re-work the apk directory scheme akin to that later tonight for when I do eventually get the wrapper up.
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That's not necessarily how most version checks work, but that's the simplest method I could think of, and probably one of the easiest to implement.
alapapa said:
I think this is a fabulous idea...automated version control would go over very well -- i.e. yum update
you should post up bits that you need help with and have folks contact you.
also..I love the logo!
question: do you propose a rating system or a review prior to listing type of approach or something new to keep this resource trustworthy?
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Thanks! And I feel I might need some help in the future as far as implementing the features that I want to get working. But I'm not quite sure I understand your question. Are you referring to how I choose which applications get posted onto the site?
i'm a graphic designer and web designer, i'll throw in a helping hand if you want, pm me or whatever.
(think about an android based layout to bring it to the phone like Cough*cydia*cough
very cool and much needed
Xda-dev is great, but there is alot of stuff thats not on the market and they have shown to bow down to the tmobs pressure(ie: tether app) so another place to get apps would be great, and your weppage is beautiful and looks like it would be very finger friendly on the g1, but there is a basic model in linux of repositories(which is about what ur doing) and a simple app to d/l them maybe somebody could just make a market.apk with a modded addy, depending on how much is known about the market and its inner workings... it would be nice to do it as it has been always done....but as I stated above your webdesign is very nice and would work well in the native browser(im heading there now on my g1)
bhang
not a bad idea. I think this is great for all verified apps that are pulled from market...
I really like this idea. Go for it.
Just one (stupid) remark about the logo... it's like it has a big nose and a :-| expression... sorry
apetit said:
I really like this idea. Go for it.
Just one (stupid) remark about the logo... it's like it has a big nose and a :-| expression... sorry
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Haha, I just noticed that actually. Now it's all I see. But yeah, I'm hoping to have a few more apps to upload by the end of next week. Revisions to the site are imminent once I get out of this last class.
I love the idea. One bookmark to check up on all the good non-market apps will be much easier than having several bookmarked threads.
Some applications may benefit from having tags such as [beta], [stable], [experimental], [contains-ads], etc.
As others have mentioned once/if user uploads are implemented an app approval system will be crucial to keep the spam at bay. I can see this really taking off.
im a supporter
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im a supporter
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+1 this sounds like a great idea, there was something like this for apps for the dash,mda & sda.
Hi all,
I have a concept for a single update application that would be driven from the AndroidSPIN release database so all developers could use it for ROM, Themes, Applications and anything releases to devices.
If you wouldn't mind taking a couple of minutes to read this post, I would greatly appreciate it.
http://www.androidspin.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=260&t=226
I'd really love to get a group together to collaborate and either help design this and/or write an application and back end to do it.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
Simon
Sounds like an awesome idea, I'd love to help any way I can, but I dont fit in any of the needed positions for the post. Looking forward to see what develops though
Fantastic idea!
I only ever use XDA so god knows what I'm missing out on elsewhere and to be honest after searching the word android on google and trawling through one crap site after another becomes tiresome so hence the 'XDA only' policy.
Sorry I can't offer any programming skills but you have my support on this project whole heartedly, not that it counts for much I know buh MeH!
Hope you can get this off the ground.
As I mentioned to Simon already, I was thinking about building an update application for my ROM. I love the idea of having an on-phone ROM database, update capability, something that can easily be used by any developer in the community.
Some initial thoughts on functionality:
- Browse ROMs
- Download ROMs to SD Card
- Monitor specific ROMs for updates
- Monitor currently running ROM for updates
I'm willing to lend a hand on the Android side of things, but this will be a large undertaking and we will also need some people to contribute to the UI, server side of things, etc.
I do iPhone UI design for applications now (I don't have an iPhone, but most of my contracts and clients are iPhone based), but let me know and I can whip up anything you guys need UI related.
Send me a PM and I can get the ball rolling on how the functionality can be laid out as well.
Even tho I know I wouldnt be able to help out with this. I know I would love to test this out if you needed it.
Its a great idea!!!
I know a teeny bit of Java, and I'm working on becoming an Android developer, so if anything needs doing on the Android side of things, I'm willing to contribute.
Although I may not know as much as some others, I'm definitely a fast learner. I have a few books on Android development I'm reading through right now.
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I know a teeny bit of Java, and I'm working on becoming an Android developer, so if anything needs doing on the Android side of things, I'm willing to contribute.
Although I may not know as much as some others, I'm definitely a fast learner. I have a few books on Android development I'm reading through right now.
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Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
akirah said:
Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Well, of course.
If anything else needs doing, however, I volunteer what spare time I have.
akirah said:
Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Could be easily done, would require quite a lot of laborious work ripping out all the stuff you wouldn't need though.
I would take a look at this but unfortunately I have another Android project on at the moment which is taking all my development spare time.
@SimonNWalker What sort of backend having you got going? REST? SOAP?
Ups wrong theread
not that it matters (since i kept the source 100% open)....
you have my blessing to tear the cmupdater to shreds if it will give us a unified solution to all our ROM cravings
firefart has done a good job of keeping the code pretty clean so there shouldnt be too many issues with grabbing it
and the new code for the screenshots for themes could probably be used to the advantage of this project with ease
I'm not really interested in a rom updater, but a market replacement with an "upgrade all" feature (à la apt-get / yum) drawing from multiple repositories would be most exciting.
The Cyanogen updater could be used, it just needs some modifications. Stuff like sub-sections and update all
Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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The only other method I would consider, besides JSON, is an advanced and well thought out web-based form that the developer is forced to complete upon uploading a ROM. This would place more burden on the server, but should be relatively easy to attach the provided ROM information to the rom database.
Think: Check boxes for firmware compatibilities, check boxes for device compatibilities, version number, change log, etc.
Maybe something a little like this?
Wow this would be/ is gonna be awsome!
I would suggest also that you can backup your sd card settings (and maybe also sms...) to an ftp server (or some other server you can install on your pc) from this app...
like (incremential) backup>partition>wipe>install update>boot>getbackupback
problem is to get the server adress back after wipe. maybe stored in web database and encrypted with phone imei number? or uploaded as google
whatever...
or just not wiping that single adress
just saying ^^
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Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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JSON is just a file format. The CM Updater works via a static JSON file that gets updated manually. The way I'd design this (which is what I asked a couple of posts back) is a dynamic web service (probably REST based) which delivered JSON dynamically. Wouldn't be too difficult at all.
As SimonWalker said he's using PHP + MySQL I'm guessing that's already being done.
@garok89: CM Updater is completely open-source therefore blessings are not needed to use the source. Really don't understand all the "credit" crap here on XDA.
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@garok89: CM Updater is completely open-source therefore blessings are not needed to use the source. Really don't understand all the "credit" crap here on XDA.
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I know it is open and I don't need to give my blessing for people to use the source. I did so because a lot of people don't feel comfortable using other peoples code without permission, regardless of whether or not its 100% open source.
And as for the 'credit crap'... I don't see you asking for your name to be removed from the 'about' section of the app
I am not asking for any credit
Anyway, lets not get off topic...
Guys, before this becomes Android Open Alliance, the sequel (you all remember how that went), I think we better set up a way to work together first and then toss in the speculative stuff later.
How about starting simple; set up a wave?
I took the latest source code for Email.apk from CM7 and modified it to remove any Exchange Security policy enforcement. Benefits of doing it this way rather than using an older version of Email.apk is you get the new code updates.
Anyways enjoy and if you want to include this or redistribute please just give me credit for the modification.
Please note that this modified Email application is available for educational purposes only.
The following is a brief summary of what the modifications made to this application do:
NOTE: Security Policy is abbreviated as SP
Disable requirement for a local Device Admin which disables the ability to Remote Wipe and to require a pinlock to use the device
Acknowledge to the remote Exchange server that the SP's which this device supports are currently active. We do not fabricate the list of SP's that are supported. So if the current Android 2.3 src code does not support a specific SP then we do not lie and state it does. This means you could still be rejected by the remote Exchange server and not be able to sync with it. Stating what we support and actually supporting them are two different things.
If you want access to the modified source code you can grab it from HERE
give you credit as well as cyanogenmod crew and mtwebster
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give you credit as well as cyanogenmod crew and mtwebster
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Well, credit for the mod not any prior changes to this application's src code from the CM fork. As always I respect all developer's contributions no matter how small.
Also since this is a mod and not enhancement I'll never push these changes to the CM git repo to be added. I think Email has not had any individual contributions and is stock android 2.2.
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I think Email has not had any individual contributions and is stock android 2.2.
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http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_Email/commits/froyo
Ahhhh nice. I only checked the src out but hadn't checked history on it. I'm an SVN person and not familiar with git. Thanks man I'll hit up mtwebster as Email was an app I wanted to contribute to.
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Thank you everyone that worked on this apk. I have been wanting this sense cm 6 came out. Cause back on cm rc1 it didn't have the security settings, which I loved very much. There is only one thing I keep having is it keeps asking for me to set the security up. Idk if that's suppose to happen or not but I just wanted to let everyone know that it works but every hour or so it asks for security to be setup. Again thank you all.
Im cookin up an update.zip for this, testing right now and i will upload when its done
Edit:: link for update zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/458252/kanged_email-signed.zip
works for me, thanks to shafty023 for modding the apk!
krypticos said:
There is only one thing I keep having is it keeps asking for me to set the security up. Idk if that's suppose to happen or not but I just wanted to let everyone know that it works but every hour or so it asks for security to be setup. Again thank you all.
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No it should not be asking you every hour for security. Make sure you removed the device admin (Android Settings -> Security) and removed the pin lock after you copied over the modded Email.apk. You do not need to reboot. I modded the src code to not check for security requirements on every ping to the Exchange server which is what you are experiencing. That would lead me to believe you're in a semi-modded state. Make sure you clear the notifications before you setup your Exchange account again or that notification "could" trigger the security requirement again. Remember, all this has to be done before you set up your Exchange account again.
According to the commits at the github, there should be an option to change the account color somewhere, but I don't see anything like that under account settings. Am I missing something?
Also, is it so hard to make html emails render properly? This is a must in my opinion and should be stock, but I wonder why our kind devs don't do something in that direction...
According to the commits at the github, there should be an option to change the account color somewhere, but I don't see anything like that under account settings. Am I missing something?
Also, is it so hard to make html emails render properly? This is a must in my opinion and should be stock, but I wonder why our kind devs don't do something in that direction...
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I'll check on the account color issue. As far as html email rendering, the email app will need an html renderer rather than a text renderer.
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I don't think your exchange administrators will appreciate you running without security.
Just saying.
JCopernicus said:
I don't think your exchange administrators will appreciate you running without security.
Just saying.
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I am my exchange admin, and just for the most part, the mods are making the 2.2 email apk run like it has for the past two versions of android.
fallingup said:
I am my exchange admin, and just for the most part, the mods are making the 2.2 email apk run like it has for the past two versions of android.
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The past two versions of android were lacking in proper exchange support.
I'm just putting it out there as a warning for people who are using exchange for the companies they work for.
**** could hit the fan if your phone is improperly secured by using this apk.
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I don't think your exchange administrators will appreciate you running without security.
Just saying.
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This mod is for those who require Exchange support but their company is too cheap to pay for a decent corporate phone with Exchange support.
I'm a software developer for instance and my company only provides phones to people with C-level titles (CEO, CIO, CTO, etc). So I use my personal phone to connect via ActiveSync but do NOT want our Exchange environment having the ability to remote-wipe my phone.
To add more humor to the issue, those in our company who get phones are getting ones still on Android 1.6 which doesn't include proper Exchange security support so it's a null/void issue here.
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The source code and enhancements to Email.apk over stock Android 2.2 release are all thanks to Cyanogenmod crew & mtwebster.
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So how do I install this one? When I'm trying to install it Astro it only gives me the option to uninstall or launch
go here
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3570-email-app-modification/page__pid__31972#entry31972
However it will not include the modification to ignore the security' enhancements' that are added in this thread.
Uninstall the current email app with titanium then flash the one mentioned in this thread or the one in urge link above.
Thanks disgustip8ted ,
But the one from the link is an rar this one is a apk.
How do I install the apk one? app installer no longer works with Froyo.
If your exchange admins are cool with this you can install the apk with astro, or email it to your self,g mail will give you the option to install. Imo just un rar the file from mtwebster and install and keep a good back up in case the exchange admins get overzealous and wipe your phone.
Lets not overlook individual folder sync too. This is great!
Now my question... Can us special children running blur on devices like... Oh say a droid2 use this at all? I'm guessing no because of the blur mail app, but I hope I'm wrong.
Our organization recently disabled Exchange Activesync because of things like this...
I'm not trying to piss on this thread, but this is a serious problem for adoption of Android in the Enterprise.
All of our Android users hate us now. They just bought the phone that "Does" except it doesn't. ;/
I work in a industry with regulation that has certain standards for how e-mail is stored on portable devices, and when I got wind of this we had no choice but to ban android devices from synchronizing with exchange.
(and that stinks, but there's no way around it)
I know that with such a open platform this was inevitable, but by supplying this to the masses you have given a "proof of concept" to the paranoid.
This will without doubt result in businesses not adopting android in the enterprises that are regulated. (Or turning to 3rd party solutions, offhand I think of Good for Enterprise.......whom we pay dearly for closed source secure E-Mail on Android).
That said, I can't help but wonder if there is any way for an exchange administrator to detect something like this. (I doubt it) Because if so I'd make sure that the end users disregarding policy (which is regulatory driven) were fired.
Also, if this is meant for small businesses, can't the exchange admin just disable the security in the policy on the exchange side. I don't buy that this is for small companies.
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The project in GutHub: https://github.com/antoniy/gidder
Gidder is a Git server implementation for Android that works on top of a SSH server. Access your code anywhere anytime using your Android device.
Gidder is a unique product in that it combines two very complementary ideas. The distributed version control that Git provides and the mobility of any Android device. As a reasult, you can store your projects safely and conveniently in your pocket device and just as easy access them using any WiFi connection. It doesn't matter if you are on a business trip in a hotel, at the office or at home, you can always sync your work using your Android device.
What's the fun of something if you can't share if with anyone else? That's why Gidder provides multiple users that can access any repository they have permissions to. You might want a colleague to be able to just peek at your code - no worries, Gidder gives you the ability to separate permissions to Pull and Push&Pull permissions. So with a simple click you can assign read-only permission to anyone.
Features:
Git server over SSH for accessing your repositories.
Support Push, Pull, Fetch and Clone Git operations which is all you need to achieve successful distribution with Git.
User management - create, create from contact, edit, delete, activate/deactivate, set/remove permissions to repositories.
Repository management - create, edit, delete, activate/deactivate, set/remove permissions for users.
Dynamic DNS integration. A convinient way to use the system when working in different WiFi networks and having a different IP on your laptop. By using Dynamic DNS you can easily access a server without worrying if your Git remote have the correct IP for the current WiFi network. Currently supported providers are No-IP and DynDNS.
Auto update Dynamic DNS hostname when WiFi is On.
Manually update Dynamic DNS with an update button.
Autostart/Autostop server on WiFi On/Off.
Configure server port.
Enable/Disable status bar notifications.
Application widget for Start/Stop the server.
Connection problem
Hi!
Must say that it's a great idea! I use git for storing all my document, regardless if I'm using my laptop or office computer. Adding the phone offers true mobility.
However, I'm having problem accessing the server:
~/git/AppData$ git push gidder
Permission denied (password).
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
After stopping the server I get the following:
~/git/AppData$ git push gidder
ssh: connect to host 10.10.10.170 port 2222: Connection refused
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
Which means that I'm talking to the right server. I never get prompted for the password, though. I'm pretty experienced with both ssh and git.
Keep up the good work!
cholmer said:
Hi!
Must say that it's a great idea! I use git for storing all my document, regardless if I'm using my laptop or office computer. Adding the phone offers true mobility.
However, I'm having problem accessing the server:
~/git/AppData$ git push gidder
Permission denied (password).
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
After stopping the server I get the following:
~/git/AppData$ git push gidder
ssh: connect to host 10.10.10.170 port 2222: Connection refused
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
Which means that I'm talking to the right server. I never get prompted for the password, though. I'm pretty experienced with both ssh and git.
Keep up the good work!
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Thank you for your feedback! Can you provide me with additional information (steps to reproduce for example) so I can see if something is going wrong?
~antoniy~
Noob
oliuf4e said:
Thank you for your feedback! Can you provide me with additional information (steps to reproduce for example) so I can see if something is going wrong?
~antoniy~
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Quick reply! Thanks!
The problem was completely on my side! My /etc/ssh/ssh_config was configured "PasswordAuthentication no", so it didn't allow password based authentication. I usually use pubkey for my gitrepo, so I didn't know I had that. Do you support pubkey?
I hope that someone could learn from my mistake. I found the problem by trying ssh alone like this:
ssh -v -v -v 10.10.10.170 -p 2222 -l guest
cholmer said:
Quick reply! Thanks!
The problem was completely on my side! My /etc/ssh/ssh_config was configured "PasswordAuthentication no", so it didn't allow password based authentication. I usually use pubkey for my gitrepo, so I didn't know I had that. Do you support pubkey?
I hope that someone could learn from my mistake. I found the problem by trying ssh alone like this:
ssh -v -v -v 10.10.10.170 -p 2222 -l guest
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I'm glad you solve this issue. Regarding public key authentication support the answer is yes, of course I had this idea but for now I don't have nice and simple way to present this functionality. Because of the fact it's a pure client-side app and there are no back-end servers involved there ain't simple ways (at least to my knowledge) to transfer and manage pub keys for the application. Of course this feature is still in the queue for future implementations.
~antoniy~
Good stuff
Definitely a good start and very useful. It did take a bit of work to get going but not too bad... specifically I had to edit my local ~/.ssh/config to allow password auth with the dyndns host and had to do "git push origin master" after cloning the repo locally... but once that was done things worked great.
A couple of feature requests...
1. It would be great if I could set the location of the repo on my device. I have a galaxy tab 2 with a large capacity sdcard, but gidder sets the repo up on internal storage.
2. It would be great to be able to pull up a history of the repo on the device. Just a summary to see where things are at.
jasnell said:
Definitely a good start and very useful. It did take a bit of work to get going but not too bad... specifically I had to edit my local ~/.ssh/config to allow password auth with the dyndns host and had to do "git push origin master" after cloning the repo locally... but once that was done things worked great.
A couple of feature requests...
1. It would be great if I could set the location of the repo on my device. I have a galaxy tab 2 with a large capacity sdcard, but gidder sets the repo up on internal storage.
2. It would be great to be able to pull up a history of the repo on the device. Just a summary to see where things are at.
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Okay, about the first request - I'll add a configuration option to specify where the repositories should be saved. When I got some time, I'll make it happen.
Regarding the repository browsing on the device - I'm not planning this for now. Don't have much time. You can use Roberto's app AGit to access repository on Gidder and browse the log as a workaround.
~antoniy~
This app is very interesting! I'll try it tomorrow, but already rated it on gplay. if it realy that app how i think i will donate it
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This is a really awsome app. I've been stalling making it myself since I didn't have the time. It really needs a hotspot mode it isn't hard to implement, and maybe a tasker plugin.
If you need help on this, I wouldn't mind helping I just don't have the time to do it full-time. Since I'm trying to start releasing abunch of apps right now.
First off not trying to be an ass, sadly this is how it will come off.
I am not looking for the source code of the app but I am looking for the source code of the gpl components of this app
which must be hosted by the person who created the app upon any form of distribution.
The only way you would have to also release the source code of the app is if you statically linked to the git code or
any other gpl code.
currently from what I can tell you have violated the GPL License and if not corrected with in two weeks of now, I
will report this to the FSF.
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First off not trying to be an ass, sadly this is how it will come off.
I am not looking for the source code of the app but I am looking for the source code of the gpl components of this app
which must be hosted by the person who created the app upon any form of distribution.
The only way you would have to also release the source code of the app is if you statically linked to the git code or
any other gpl code.
currently from what I can tell you have violated the GPL License and if not corrected with in two weeks of now, I
will report this to the FSF.
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Thank you for supporting the open source community that well. Hope some day you'll realise freeware software is another branch of that same side and you may support it as well. After all some people are investing their free time to do something for the community (and yes, it seams other people are playing "badass" online).
Never the less, there is a plan to go open source but that won't happen until I prepare the code so other people can understand it easily. And that is not and will never be related with what you're trying to do. To be honest people like you pushes me away from contributing than the other way around.
Thank you for your post, hope you're happy for what you're doing.
Regards,
Antoniy
Antoniy I wouldn't take offence to what devilsclaw has said in fact he's trying to help you out although IMHO his approach is a little heavy handed, but that's just my opinion. If he's going to threaten people with the FSF then IMHO it's up to him to try to help people comply with the licences, if they refuse the help then reporting them is probably appropriate.
(Disclaimer: I might not be 100% correct so please do some googling to be sure).
When you make use of libraries that have a GPL licence it means your code automatically has the GPL licence applied to it and have to make the source to your code available...hence why GPL is loved as much as it is hated. If you'd used LGPL licenced code then things would be a little different. Making the code available doesn't mean you have to host it somewhere or make it particularly public but you would have to provide it on request. So for instance if I emailed you and asked for your source you'd have to make it available to me I.e. email me a zip of the source, provide somewhere where I can download it from, etc. (don't worry I'm not going to do that ) because of the GPL licence.
I realise you have pride in the software you write and hence only want to make it "public" when you're happy with it and you can stick with that plan, as long as you provide the current source in whatever state it is in to anyone that actually requests it.
Hopefully this won't put you off as I think your application is great from watching your video and I'll be giving it a try, the fact it's free is fantastic!! All you need to do is probably do some research on what licences are applied to the code you're using and see how that affects your code. Be careful it's a bit of a minefield and there are plenty of misinterpretations/misundertandings out there. Once you've got a grip on what the different licences mean and the consequences of them then hopefully you'll be happy contributing in the future.
As a side-note, making the source available for your application will probably mean more people will use it. Source code is quite a sensitive thing to be storing in something you don't have 100% trust in, providing the source to your application will mean that users can establish that trust. As one of the review comments points out on Google Play they want to be sure the code they're storing through your app isn't being transmitted somewhere else without their knowledge.
HTH
mobby
oliuf4e said:
Thank you for supporting the open source community that well. Hope some day you'll realise freeware software is another branch of that same side and you may support it as well. After all some people are investing their free time to do something for the community (and yes, it seams other people are playing "badass" online).
Never the less, there is a plan to go open source but that won't happen until I prepare the code so other people can understand it easily. And that is not and will never be related with what you're trying to do. To be honest people like you pushes me away from contributing than the other way around.
Thank you for your post, hope you're happy for what you're doing.
Regards,
Antoniy
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Antoniy I wouldn't take offence to what devilsclaw has said in fact he's trying to help you out although IMHO his approach is a little heavy handed, but that's just my opinion. If he's going to threaten people with the FSF then IMHO it's up to him to try to help people comply with the licences, if they refuse the help then reporting them is probably appropriate.
(Disclaimer: I might not be 100% correct so please do some googling to be sure).
When you make use of libraries that have a GPL licence it means your code automatically has the GPL licence applied to it and have to make the source to your code available...hence why GPL is loved as much as it is hated. If you'd used LGPL licenced code then things would be a little different. Making the code available doesn't mean you have to host it somewhere or make it particularly public but you would have to provide it on request. So for instance if I emailed you and asked for your source you'd have to make it available to me I.e. email me a zip of the source, provide somewhere where I can download it from, etc. (don't worry I'm not going to do that ) because of the GPL licence.
I realise you have pride in the software you write and hence only want to make it "public" when you're happy with it and you can stick with that plan, as long as you provide the current source in whatever state it is in to anyone that actually requests it.
Hopefully this won't put you off as I think your application is great from watching your video and I'll be giving it a try, the fact it's free is fantastic!! All you need to do is probably do some research on what licences are applied to the code you're using and see how that affects your code. Be careful it's a bit of a minefield and there are plenty of misinterpretations/misundertandings out there. Once you've got a grip on what the different licences mean and the consequences of them then hopefully you'll be happy contributing in the future.
As a side-note, making the source available for your application will probably mean more people will use it. Source code is quite a sensitive thing to be storing in something you don't have 100% trust in, providing the source to your application will mean that users can establish that trust. As one of the review comments points out on Google Play they want to be sure the code they're storing through your app isn't being transmitted somewhere else without their knowledge.
HTH
mobby
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Hello Mobby and thank you for your response.
I'm aware with the differences in the licenses and the fact is - I'm not using any GPL licensed libraries. The libraries I'm using are Apache 2 License, MIT License and EDL and I'm not forced by any of those to provide my code to anyone. devilsclaw is just confused and want to educate people the strangest way possible. But anyway. My missing is that I have to list the name of the libraries and their licenses somewhere in my app - that's correct and should be fixed some time in the future. My app is not forced to be open-source and due to that fact and many more I still do not intend to make it open source.
Yes, I'm aware people needs to feel safe for their code, but being open source is not a MUST, it's a bonus that people should recognize. You cannot just go around telling people do this and do that without first stop and consider that you're talking about their time and money and also without consider that you might actually be wrong.
Anyway, let's leave it at that. When I find the time needed I'll release the app open source because there is no reason for me to keep it closed. It's just a tool I build for myself and share with others.
Hope you'll enjoy using it.
Regards,
Antoniy
Ah that's cool, glad the licences are not a problem.
Oh definitely open source is not a must and I hope you don't think I was implying that you must open source your code. I was just offering my opinion that it might be good.
In either case you've created a great app and I will certainly give it a try and leave a review on Google Play at some point.
oliuf4e said:
Hello Mobby and thank you for your response.
I'm aware with the differences in the licenses and the fact is - I'm not using any GPL licensed libraries. The libraries I'm using are Apache 2 License, MIT License and EDL and I'm not forced by any of those to provide my code to anyone. devilsclaw is just confused and want to educate people the strangest way possible. But anyway. My missing is that I have to list the name of the libraries and their licenses somewhere in my app - that's correct and should be fixed some time in the future. My app is not forced to be open-source and due to that fact and many more I still do not intend to make it open source.
Yes, I'm aware people needs to feel safe for their code, but being open source is not a MUST, it's a bonus that people should recognize. You cannot just go around telling people do this and do that without first stop and consider that you're talking about their time and money and also without consider that you might actually be wrong.
Anyway, let's leave it at that. When I find the time needed I'll release the app open source because there is no reason for me to keep it closed. It's just a tool I build for myself and share with others.
Hope you'll enjoy using it.
Regards,
Antoniy
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Ah that's cool, glad the licences are not a problem.
Oh definitely open source is not a must and I hope you don't think I was implying that you must open source your code. I was just offering my opinion that it might be good.
In either case you've created a great app and I will certainly give it a try and leave a review on Google Play at some point.
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Thank you again for joining the discussion and for sharing your opinion. I really appreciate it and I don't think you were pressing me to go open source or anything, so no worries. Hope you'll enjoy using the app.
Regards,
Antoniy
Feature request
I have been looking for this for ages as i have an android tv box connected to a couple of disks with an ssh server that i'm using as a NAS and always wished i could have some version control on it too. Sadly my tv box connects via cables rather than wireless so Gidder will not work in its current state. Any chance of cable support in the future?
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I have been looking for this for ages as i have an android tv box connected to a couple of disks with an ssh server that i'm using as a NAS and always wished i could have some version control on it too. Sadly my tv box connects via cables rather than wireless so Gidder will not work in its current state. Any chance of cable support in the future?
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I don't plan to support that feature because it's wished from just a couple of users and currently I just don't have the time. If you're android developer I could share the code with you and you can add the feature yourself.
Many thanks
oliuf4e said:
I don't plan to support that feature because it's wished from just a couple of users and currently I just don't have the time. If you're android developer I could share the code with you and you can add the feature yourself.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm a developer by trade and dabble in android so would love to have a go. Obviously anything i come up with i'll merge back in.
thomaskwscott said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'm a developer by trade and dabble in android so would love to have a go. Obviously anything i come up with i'll merge back in.
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Sounds great. Please send me a personal message with your email and bitbucket account.
~Antoniy~
Hi,
I would want to transfer my repositories/users to another phone running Gidder. I've copied the Gidder directory from one phone to the other but when I run Gidder, the repositories/accounts aren't showing up.
Are there any other files I need to copy from the other phone?
Spotify DogfoodThe open-source ad-free version of Spotify for Android
Hello all,
First of all, I'd like to address about the reason behind making this thread, and the project that is behind it.
I thought to myself, why people are free to publish YouTube mods to avoid ads, but not Spotify? So there's why the project started.
Spotify Dogfood is a mod of the Spotify Android App, coming directly from the Google Play Store and in both it's Beta and probably Stable releases, and modded in the cleanest way possible. This mod is "open-source". The Spotify app itself of course isn't, but the alterations/modifications done to the app in order to avoid ads are clear and concise, well-documented, and are getting uploaded as patchsets, so that they are perceptible and crystal clear at plain sight. This is because people, starting by myself, don't easily trust modded applications out there, so this makes it easier for you all to "audit" the modifications, and even contribute to the project by forking it, making your changes and then pushing it back to me.
This project has been running for several months now, and it's been now that I decided to move a step forward and make it public.
Restrictions and limitations:
This application replaces your current Spotify installation. You need to uninstall any previous installations of it first.
If the app came bundled with your device, like most Samsung devices, you can't use this mod out of the box, since you need to change the package name to a different one.
This application has been signed with a different key than the one used by Spotify. This means that Facebook login won't work unless you don't have Facebook's app installed, or you uninstall and/or deactivate it, if it came bundled with your device. Once done, log-in to your account using Facebook and, once logged-in, re-download and/or re-activate your Facebook app, if you want to.
This application won't work with Android Auto, since it hasn't been installed by the Google Play Store's agent. Fortunately, there's a fix found by XDA's News Writer @MishaalRahman, which you can read here.
As commented by Senior Moderator @matt4321, please, refrain from asking for other premium features to be unlocked.
What is different from *others'* mods:
Like I said previously, I didn't feel comfortable trusting code I had never seen, then I started investigating on how to disable Ads and such on my own and with help of awesome pages like this one that helped me clear my mind on how to properly modify the liborbit-jni so file. Once I had finally understood how it worked, I've made it public so that anyone can revise it on it's own.
How to contribute:
You can have a bit more information in the README uploaded in the repo. But basically, feel free to fork any branch you want, modify or investigate the patchsets as you want and recreate them in a different package.
Cool story bro, where's the download??!1:
Whoa there, cowboy!
All downloads, both precompiled APKs and Source code can be found in the GitHub Releases section.
Please, also kindly note the following - Do NOT re-upload them.
GitHub Releases - GitHub Main page - Project's webpage - Telegram Group
Disclaimer / Final words:
This thread, as well as the provided patchsets and precompiled APKs are just for demonstrative & educational purposes. They should not be used for illegal actions, and/or any action that can imply a violation in the ToS of the software used in the thread.
XDA-Developers.com takes no responsibility either, as this thread is hosted only and exclusively as for information purposes and doesn't attach any content that is copyrighted, but a link to it, just as it could have been found at Google.
It is yours, the final user, the one who takes the responsibility of using it wisely, as a functional PoC, and not for piracy or any other illegal actions.
XDA:DevDB Information
Spotify Dogfood, App for all devices (see above for details)
Contributors
linuxct
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 8.4.39.612-dogfood
Stable Release Date: 2018-01-28
Created 2017-07-06
Last Updated 2018-03-01
How to apply the PatchSets
To apply the patchsets manually, you need the following tools:
Git, and preferably GitHub's app for Windows.
Java JDK and it's environment variables properly set-up
APKtool
An Android Keystore to sign your APKs
The version you wish to apply the patchset to, from APKmirror.
Android Debugging Bridge installed (perferably system-wide), as well as it's drivers if you're on Windows.
Once you meet all of the above, it's as easy as it follows:
Code:
#unpack the apk
java -jar apktool_WhateverVersion.jar d NameOfTheApk.apk && cd NameOfTheApk
#now copy the patch file to the dir you're on
git apply --stat NameOfThePatch.path #checks the stats
git apply --check NameOfThePatch.path #sees if it's compatible with the environment
git apply NameOfThePatch.path #applies the patch
#compile the result
java -jar apktool_WhateverVersion.jar b NameOfTheDirectory
#sign with your key
jarsigner -verbose -sigalg SHA1withRSA -digestalg SHA1 -keystore /path/to/your/keystore NameOfTheDirectory/dist/NameOfTheResultingFile.apk YOURALIAS
#install the final apk
adb install -r NameOfTheDirectory/dist/NameOfTheResultingFile.apk
If you want to review the patch itself, you can use git-am.
You have more info in GitHub's README file.
In order to comply with XDA's Rules and CoC, Spotify Dogfood has taken a new direction, and now offers *exclusively* Ad-free music playback. Any other features won't be included anymore in this mod. But, that doesn't mean anything if you're a true, a core user of this app, because there will still be regular updates to it, as there has been up until now.
However, all patchsets, branches and everything that has been posted up until now will be deleted progressively, in order to comply with the above mentioned.
Still have doubts? Read this:
preference said:
FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WON'T READ THE FIRST POST:
1. Dogfood only supports shuffle mode at normal quality with No ADVERTISEMENTS.
2. The mod had to be changed due to xda rules
3. This thread is not the place to complain. If you have an issue with the changes go to the telegram chat and talk with other dogfood users
4. There is nothing you can do to change the situation - be happy with what you get. No advertisements is still a really good perk
5. Support the developer if you can, monetarily or through teaching noobs about how to read the OP.
6. Look outside of xda if you can't handle the changes, but do not post any information on this board. Keep it related to dogfood
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Thanks for this.
I can finally ditch the warezwebsite mods for something more trustworthy.
thank for this, awesome
Worth a try!
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Only 3 replies? Seriously?
paed808 said:
Only 3 replies? Seriously?
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I pretty much think all of my new threads are damned at this point... Sigh.
linuxct said:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I pretty much think all of my new threads are damned at this point... Sigh.
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Anyways, thanks again for making this.
Let's hope it continues to work and Spotify doesn't get buttmad.
I tried it and no ads so far. Good job =)!
Thanks !!!
great job !
After a day of usage, Spotify now tells me to buy premium to play my songs.
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dnle71 said:
After a day of usage, Spotify now tells me to buy premium to play my songs.
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How many songs/hours worth of music have you played non stop? Have you tried basic stuff like rebooting your device or clearing the app data? Can you try running Spotify in your desktop pc and let it run for a few songs to see how it reacts?
I've been using latest version at my workplace for 8+ hours, and I've a small group of early adopters that have been trying it out too, and none of us have ever seen that kind of message in our devices.
linuxct said:
How many songs/hours worth of music have you played non stop? Have you tried basic stuff like rebooting your device or clearing the app data? Can you try running Spotify in your desktop pc and let it run for a few songs to see how it reacts?
I've been using latest version at my workplace for 8+ hours, and I've a small group of early adopters that have been trying it out too, and none of us have ever seen that kind of message in our devices.
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I haven't done any of that, sorry. I jist tried playing around 30 minutes last night then tried the morning and then it started giving me the message.
Let me try to do the following later.
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Thank you very much! This is awesome, you are awesome!
I’ll try! Thanks!
Oh yeah!!!!!! Great work and great dev to make this open source app... Congrats
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Nice, I'm currently using a modded one anyway but an open source version on XDA is always preferred. Can you add a changelog at all? The one I'm currently used to using shows all changes and features that it enables but I haven't seen a list like that here.
Awesome job I need this
This is amazing. Works like a charm. Thank you very much!