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Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
I dont know if its that simple. I dont rly know if the android suitable for N8, anyway would be nice to have it (even though that i have HD2, which i think that is much better than N8.) If its possible, my friends will have android too! xD
indeed!
I think an android developer must buy an n8.. that he can see it's a wonderfull device.
And then create android for it.
Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
Sent from HTC HD2 with Android
Not all people wants a HD2
you are not alone my friend!
I too wish the N8 had Android.
It is a much better device than the HD2, screen size isn't everything.
coldest~~~ said:
Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
Sent from HTC HD2 with Android
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anything is possible, it just takes time.
and in the HD2's favor, it had hardware that was common across different platforms.
plus a big userbase
Isnt the N8 nokia soft based on Debian? couldn't drivers be ported my friend has this device and yes the camera is amazing on it
I thougt it was only meego and maemo wich is debian based?
i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
TheWarKeeper said:
i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
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The CPU is official build for 750mhz. So it can run faster.. Also i heard that the new version of android (3.0?) has hardware acceleration for the UI. So the GPU can be used for it.
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
under18 said:
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
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Why?
The HTC ChaCha and Salsa has a 600 mhz processor... And still Android runs on it.
Indeed the ram is littlebit low 256 mb...
Chacha is 800Mhz, 512 of ram..
yeah i wish that someone would find a way to port android to n8 i recently got one and dont like symbian os, any way i'll keep on searching if no luck, guess i have to get an android phone
Edit: forgot to say i had a sony ericsson x8 which had 600 Mhz processor and 256mb ram and i was even able to run android 4.0 on it dunno why n8 would not run on this device
The question is why port android to N8? The N8 is a wonderful device as is. If you have an N8 you probably bought it for it's camera prowess. Bonus: you get a very long battery life (compared to droids). Now if you want to port android on it then it will become power hungry and will be full of glitches since it has poor dev support. Also, you wouldn't want a slow droid. 600mhz for a droid is quite slow, and as stated, the RAM is low. You're better off buying an affordable Galaxy Y. Believe me it's quite fast, if you can live with it's low res screen.
Cheers,
Cezar
kevinwalter said:
Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
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it's not possible to port Android or any other OS to symbian phones because of locked bootloaders by Nokia
Nokia n9 is running meego OS which is with unlocked bootloaders and that's why this phone can have dual boot or just one OS like Android 4.x.x ICS
I want it too
I have an Nokia N8 too and i would love to run android on it.
So if there is any way to install android on it....
I also have nokia n8, it was really a great phone,hi quality build, superb. And I fine with symbian^3 but what bothering me was that the nokia apps store is getting useless. I need BBM and can't find any.
Just curious of anyone has attempted to run vxWorks using some generic opengl library on a phone yet?
I know Wind River helped with some of the initial porting of Android in the early stages, so I am hoping it wouldn't be that big of a transition to port over some android libraries to vxWorks... :fingers-crossed:
I know this will never be practical for real usage, but this is more like a side project for me.
I checked out the specs of the newly-announced $249 chromebook, and I realized what an awesome android device it would make, if only android was successfully ported to it....
I know at the same price point we can get a n7 32gig, but the larger 11.6" LED HD tempts me, though the res at 1366 x 768 is not that great. also, all the hands-on reviews have heaped a lot of praise on the high-quality keyboard-touchpad on the device, which is even more tempting and would make up for the lack of touch input on the device...
Its config is pretty identical to a flagship android phone/tablet with two cortex-A15 cores on the Exynos 5250, 2gig RAM and 16GB onboard storage with an expandable mem slot, 2 full usb ports and a full HDMI out, with the usual WiFi a/b/g/n and Bluetooth 3.0.
I'm a noob when it comes to creating ports and ROMS, but I guess it would not be such a difficult task for the awesome dev community out here to manage that feat. Maybe we need to wait for an actual android device with the exynos chip inside to release, whose android ROM we could use as a base to port to the chromebook...
windows 8 RT would be more awesome, but seeing that its a licensed OS, porting it might amount to piracy/illegal hacking, so its not something that I would discuss/encourage here....
Chromebooks boot with UEFI (Basically a modern BIOS), so the Android source code would have to be heavilly modified to be bootstraped from UEFI. Not to mention drivers and custom kernels (which isnt much of a pain if the hardware has documentation, all eyes on you Samsung.)
And I dont think we will ever see Windows on a chromebook unless someone creates an emulator for ChromeOS... Which I dont think is possible, but dont quote me on that.
i know it would take a ton of modding to find a workaround for it, but enabling the developer mode on the chromebook allows booting of an unsigned linux installation off the external memory (eg. gentoo ubuntu) on the x86 chromebooks currently available (Cr-48 etc..)
trying something similar for booting android off an image on the mem card might be a possible way...
UPDATE : https://plus.google.com/109993695638569781190/posts/b2fazijJppZ a google employee has already begun work on porting ubuntu..!!
drivers would be difficult, esp for the SoC as there is no device currently on the market with it. but maybe after Samsung releases a couple of phones/phablets running the A15's, porting of the drivers could be attempted...
I was wondering the same thing and figured I would come here to see if anything was planned. I just ordered the new one and was curious if there would be much interest in modding this thing. Guess in due time!
rumors say the upcoming google nexus 10 tablet is running identical hardware (exynos 5 dual omap15 / 2gig ram) which is gonna run android 4.2
once its out, MAYBE porting the ROM to the chromebook may become a teeny bit easier...
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rumors say the upcoming google nexus 10 tablet is running identical hardware (exynos 5 dual omap15 / 2gig ram) which is gonna run android 4.2
once its out, MAYBE porting the ROM to the chromebook may become a teeny bit easier...
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If I'm not wrong Nexus 10 will have exactly the same processor than the new Samsung Chromebook. If someon manage port android to this new latop I won't hesitate to buy it.
there is a developer board with same hardware and as far as I know it has android source codes, you can check the website http://www.arndaleboard.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Wasnt this done a while back with the CR-48 thanks to Hexxeh?
http://hexxeh.net/?p=328117655
Just got to find a way to port it over to the new Chromebook, then port Android.
Since Android was ported to the HP Touchpad I'm pretty confident that it can be ported to this device... I mean the touchpad was the last thing I thought Android would run on and it runs like it was made for it... COME ON DEVS!
Following this thread with anticipation.
Well seeing as this device uses the same SoC as the nexus 10 i would be hopeful someone will manage to port android. I for one would be keen to have this option!
Touch Chromebook?
If this article on Android Community turns out to be accurate and Google release a touch chromebook any time soon, I would throw some money at a kickstarter to get android on it. Would be cheaper than an N10 - and probably quicker than waiting for a keyboard dock...!
Can't link because I'm new... androidcommunity.com/google-reportedly-plotting-12-85-inch-touch-chromebook-20121126/
Very hopeful!
^ here's a +1 form me
started..
OK...I was able to get into the uboot portion of chromeos and managed to load uvboot ( unverified boot )which will allow the booting of non chrome os kernel's. however it seems its looking for something else. I already got Ubuntu loaded on it so maybe I'll try to get it booting off the SD first so I don't brick my cb.....keep you guys posted.
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OK...I was able to get into the uboot portion of chromeos and managed to load uvboot ( unverified boot )which will allow the booting of non chrome os kernel's. however it seems its looking for something else. I already got Ubuntu loaded on it so maybe I'll try to get it booting off the SD first so I don't brick my cb.....keep you guys posted.
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great work! i'm still waiting for my chromebook the stock's very erratic, and i cant find anyone willing to ship it to my country...will try to help as soon as i lay my hands on one!!
Ok ... DD'd the system.img from the stock N10 factory image and created a new BOOT partition. Booting the Chrome OS kernel worked ( which should be fine due to the fact that the CB and N10 have the EXACT same ARM SOC ) it seems the boot partition need to be re-written to work with the UEFI. im going to keep digging until I find something ( or someone lends some expertise dealing with UEFI and BOOT ).Happy New years !!
Kernel boots..just has a hard time mounting the ROOTFS...any want to shed some light on this.
Thanks
Super stoked for this!! Have been thinking this would be good to have Android on from the minute I got it!! Looking forward to this!!
Is anyone interested in porting lollipop to this device from the i900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s-i9000/i9000-development/rom-t3054101
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Is anyone interested in porting lollipop...
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I appreciate your enthusiasm for this device. Unfortunately, there is no meaningful open-source kernel support for Samsung devices. While we were able to get the SGS 4G running reasonably stably for KitKat, taking it to Lollipop would be a far stretch. This is not the same device as the Galaxy S (I9000), no matter the external similarities.
Mine is limping along on OmniROM 4.4.4 as a spare phone for my foreign SIM, but it takes a few minutes to boot. I can't imagine taking the time to develop and build the kernel drivers required for Lollipop.
I'd suggest continuing to run one of the ROMs available in this forum, or purchasing a more contemporary phone if you want to run Lollipop.
I'd love to see Lollipop be ported to this device, which I have. However, I have moved on, and now have 2 devices running Lollipop, if you look at my signature.
It's not an impossible feat, it's a matter of resources and time. Some debug tools like a riff box or other jtag. And time that, for me at least, is pretty busy with work and other projects.
The biggest problems of any sgs port is the lack of internal storage and slow mmc (so moving data to mmc is bad) and the ST-Ericsson radio. Also, the internal onenand flash is bigger then the other sgs devices so you have to update the flash layout.
The kernel on my github has either a gpio issue or wake-lock unbalance. So if the screen turns off, the phone basically doesn't wake up.
Without some serious work done to the kernel, and someone's time, I don't for see lollipop on the sgs4g.
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Hey did anyone install android N preview 1? I haven't installed it cause it only released a preview 1, Maybe i'll installed it when preview 5 is released.
I'll link a source down below if anyone is wanting to install it
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/224457-how-to-install-the-android-n-developer-preview-on-your-device-right-now
This is only for nexus devices
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as its name suggests, it is only for developer, for testing their apps etc. if you're not a developer, it is better to wait for a final release. unless you like living with bugs, crashes and other possible instability issues.
How likely will the MXP get an official N release from Motorola?
Holoryn said:
How likely will the MXP get an official N release from Motorola?
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I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
I have been wondering about this too but its too early. It is a preview of N and the android development platform for android N or whatever it will be called called is not yet released - after google I/O in may .....may be . In six months or more (alot more ) there something like cm 14 or other rom. Be patient
HerySean said:
I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
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I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
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I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
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Yay!! :highfive:
The host of this thread wanted to get someone try it and let him know what it is possible or not/
right?
I hope it's 64bit
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I hope it's 64bit
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Nope, it will stay 32 bit. There will be no performance difference either way. I also will support the X Play until it can't anymore
GtrCraft said:
Nope, it will stay 32 bit. There will be no performance difference either way. I also will support the X Play until it can't anymore
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yeah, i know 32-64 bit doesn't change the performance much. 64 bit just supports more RAM and has more address lines.
i hope to do the same, but building from scratch is very confusing when you are a beginner. still trying though.
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yeah, i know 32-64 bit doesn't change the performance much. 64 bit just supports more RAM and has more address lines.
i hope to do the same, but building from scratch is very confusing when you are a beginner. still trying though.
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PM if you need help. Would like to help
Not so quick question:
When Google releases a AOSP -source code ect - for android N or any other version CM team make a basic CM version - a core of the OS so to speak - so that people who maintain a given device like MXP can adapt it to work. And that takes time....I over simplified the whole process - which surely includes lots of coding and magic - but all in all is this how it it's made ?
Chaotick said:
Not so quick question:
When Google releases a AOSP -source code ect - for android N or any other version CM team make a basic CM version - a core of the OS so to speak - so that people who maintain a given device like MXP can adapt it to work. And that takes time....I over simplified the whole process - which surely includes lots of coding and magic - but all in all is this how it it's made ?
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We need a final N and caf being updated. Then when a rom updates to that we can try building it for Lux (Code name Moto X Play) and fixing everything. Then Motorola will update it so we can use the blobs and kernel to make it even more stable.
You can look on motorola upgrade support page, there is info fo several models and android versions. We cant be sure if N will come to MXP, but Im sure, Motorola has great support and its normal, that phones gets two major upgrades. So MXP started on L, moved to M and N is very likely.
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I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
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well i have to keep my moto x play as long as I can, maybe for 3-4 more years because I just bought it :/ and I really hope lenovo release android N for MXP.
HerySean said:
I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
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its obviusly mxp will get android n, its a 2015 smartphone ... general mobile (android one) its on beta program and only have a 410; as much as android Lollipop/Marshmallow/ N are very optimized, work flawless in practically "any device" with 1gb ram