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Hi all!
I'm a S3 Mini owner, and I'm in love with the Moto G (i'm thiking in give my s3 mini to my father and buy a moto G), but I'm wondering if it has enough ram. The s3 mini has 1GB too, and sometimes I think it's not enough for multitask and things like that. Won't be a problem with the Moto G? Does it has ram enough?
Sorry fot my english, and thanks in advance
Feyerabend said:
Hi all!
I'm a S3 Mini owner, and I'm in love with the Moto G (i'm thiking in give my s3 mini to my father and buy a moto G), but I'm wondering if it has enough ram. The s3 mini has 1GB too, and sometimes I think it's not enough for multitask and things like that. Won't be a problem with the Moto G? Does it has ram enough?
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It depends of Your usage. OK for me.
It's enough RAM for moderate to heavy usage. And Kit Kat will require less RAM
I've had no issues, but I'm in the habbit of using the recents button and closing down things when I'm no using them.
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No problem with ram
Feyerabend said:
Hi all!
I'm a S3 Mini owner, and I'm in love with the Moto G (i'm thiking in give my s3 mini to my father and buy a moto G), but I'm wondering if it has enough ram. The s3 mini has 1GB too, and sometimes I think it's not enough for multitask and things like that. Won't be a problem with the Moto G? Does it has ram enough?
Sorry fot my english, and thanks in advance
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So far, I cannot complaint about the ram I did not notice if there is lack of it. I usually kill the apps so it is fine. I used to have an iphone 4S with 512 m ram so 1 giga is a much better. I saw the mini down the price to £180 I guess to compete with the moto g, but man I am so liking it that I am thinking in buying another one.
Feyerabend said:
Hi all!
I'm a S3 Mini owner, and I'm in love with the Moto G (i'm thiking in give my s3 mini to my father and buy a moto G), but I'm wondering if it has enough ram. The s3 mini has 1GB too, and sometimes I think it's not enough for multitask and things like that. Won't be a problem with the Moto G? Does it has ram enough?
Sorry fot my english, and thanks in advance
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The Moto G has about 900MB compared to 800MB with the S3 Mini.
theoneofgod said:
The Moto G has about 900MB compared to 800MB with the S3 Mini.
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1. What is the amount of ram usable? 900 MB?
2. how much memory does the system consumes after first boot?
3. how much memory does the system consumes after login into Google and Motorola account (but didn't install any app from Play Store yet)?
My current phone is Xperia X8 with 186 MB of RAM.
stfudude said:
1. What is the amount of ram usable? 900 MB?
2. how much memory does the system consumes after first boot?
3. how much memory does the system consumes after login into Google and Motorola account (but didn't install any app from Play Store yet)?
My current phone is Xperia X8 with 186 MB of RAM.
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Yes, the Moto G has 900MB available RAM to the user and probably between 350 and 450 free after boot. It totally depends what you have installed.
I think it's quite comfortable with the 1G and I am used to 2G from my Nexus 7 - if nothing else, it saves on cost and battery
nupi said:
I think it's quite comfortable with the 1G and I am used to 2G from my Nexus 7 - if nothing else, it saves on cost and battery
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Most definitely 1G on this phone is enough, when I compare it with the Samsung S3 I have just got rid of, it holds up so well.....
my user experience is actually superior, the simplicity of near-AOSP is such an improvement over the Sammy, which was chock full of useless features and TW crap, for me anyway.....
and it was 1G RAM with quad-core processor, just like the Moto G!!!
Just some specs comparison from GSM Arena, not always correct, but one wonders why the Sammy cost almost three times more than this Moto did, it is just amazing....
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4238&idPhone2=5831
After 2 weeks with the Phone I can only sa that I would pay 30£ more for 2gigs of ram on moto G and that would made it the best of the best.
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Hello,
Can anyone here help me to report about ram left when you first get the phone and after you have loaded your phone with apps (viber whatsapp fb etc) these apps always taking up ram so much even when idling in background... I am asking this because i am still surveying which phone i should get. Its either nexus 5 or moto g. If the ram left is still plenty, i guess i might be able to survive with the motog for at least another two years and save some bucks along the way for other purposes. If not, i would opt for the nexus 5, although it would burn my wallet a bit. Thanks!
Edit: And.. I would be happy if there is anyone who would like to report ram usage before and after kitkat since Google has been vocal about kitkat being able to run on phone with 512mb ram, and being ram effiicient.
urra901109 said:
Hello,
Can anyone here help me to report about ram left when you first get the phone and after you have loaded your phone with apps (viber whatsapp fb etc.
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Sure i'll try answer your question or give you some kind of idea about the amount of RAM left, i have a UK Moto G with Kitkat UK
Ok so I powered on the Moto G, waited 5 minutes while looking at the Running screen inside the Apps settings,
and i see 479MB Used & 403MB free (give or take a a couple of MB)
The user apps that are idling, are :
Vault = 14MB
Kik = 11MB
Applock = 6.2MB
Comodo Security = 4.8MB
If i then open up the 3 main apps that i frequently open (twitter, Kik, Gmail) and go back to the Running Apps Screen,
i see 494MB used & 388MB free
Hope this helps
urra901109 said:
Hello,
Can anyone here help me to report about ram left when you first get the phone and after you have loaded your phone with apps (viber whatsapp fb etc) these apps always taking up ram so much even when idling in background... I am asking this because i am still surveying which phone i should get. Its either nexus 5 or moto g. If the ram left is still plenty, i guess i might be able to survive with the motog for at least another two years and save some bucks along the way for other purposes. If not, i would opt for the nexus 5, although it would burn my wallet a bit. Thanks!
Edit: And.. I would be happy if there is anyone who would like to report ram usage before and after kitkat since Google has been vocal about kitkat being able to run on phone with 512mb ram, and being ram effiicient.
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If you can live without 4g get the moto g,I use this the same as my HTC one and its super smooth, I run a lot of apps and ram isn't an issue, ram being used is a good thing too,as it means app launch faster as they are stored in memory,saying that I usually have over 200 MB free.
@OP your understanding of RAM is wrong.
Do not worry about the RAM usage.
RAM IS THERE TO BE USED.
There is no point in the system keeping lots of RAM free, this makes the system perform worse. The idea is that as apps are used (either started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course using RAM, the system keeps them in RAM so they can quickly be accessed next time they are required.
If the system closed all apps etc to free RAM you basically end up with more free RAM, but for what purpose. No use it sitting there empty - may as well go and buy a phone with 128MB rather than 1024MB if you dont want to use much RAM.
If you start an app that needs a lot of RAM (more than is currently free) the system just removes older apps from RAM to free up the RAM required.
It is not worth comparing your phone's normal RAM usage to another phone, each person has different apps and uses the phone in different ways. It makes no sense at all to compare two phones where RAM is concerned.
If your phone is running fine and you have some free RAM, even if just a smallish amount, then most likely things are running just as they should.
@scott_doyland @kierancc88 @cra1g321 thank you for your detailed reply..
@scott_doyland @kieran88: i have same idea about the ram being used is a good thing. But what bothers me is the survivability of the moto g in the next future update for it. Today, according to @cra1g321 and @kierancc88 both reporting that the OS itself is already eating around ~ 700Mb of available RAM w/o any other apps running. What could this number be in the future, will the OS takes more RAM? Thus making reduced RAM available for other apps. Currently i am using SE phone from 2011 with 512mb ram, while it is very responsive on Gingerbread, it does suffer on ICS, my Tasker profile always closes itself due to low ram(most probable culprit). I am afraid it would happen all over like that in the future, but at the same time google seems to move towards more efficient ram usage. Lets hope the ram usage wont increase so much in the next android update.
Butttt.. Maybe i am complicating stuff.. anyways, thanks guys!
urra901109 said:
@scott_doyland @kierancc88 @cra1g321 thank you for your detailed reply..
@scott_doyland @kieran88: i have same idea about the ram being used is a good thing. But what bothers me is the survivability of the moto g in the next future update for it. Today, according to @cra1g321 and @kierancc88 both reporting that the OS itself is already eating around ~ 700Mb of available RAM w/o any other apps running. What could this number be in the future, will the OS takes more RAM? Thus making reduced RAM available for other apps. Currently i am using SE phone from 2011 with 512mb ram, while it is very responsive on Gingerbread, it does suffer on ICS, my Tasker profile always closes itself due to low ram(most probable culprit). I am afraid it would happen all over like that in the future, but at the same time google seems to move towards more efficient ram usage. Lets hope the ram usage wont increase so much in the next android update.
Butttt.. Maybe i am complicating stuff.. anyways, thanks guys!
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Generally, your point is correct; however, KitKat is actually designed to better utilize a smaller amount of RAM than Jelly Bean. Theoretically, according to Google at least, a phone with 512mb of RAM will run KitKat better than it will Jelly Bean. Theoretically.
When android boots it loads apps into memory, its isn't just the OS that's using ram after a reboot.
Try it - reboot phone and look at running AND cached apps.
bought the dual sim variant of moto g.. Hehehe. So far i am very happy.
scott_doyland said:
@OP your understanding of RAM is wrong.
Do not worry about the RAM usage.
RAM IS THERE TO BE USED.
There is no point in the system keeping lots of RAM free, this makes the system perform worse. The idea is that as apps are used (either started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course using RAM, the system keeps them in RAM so they can quickly be accessed next time they are required.
If the system closed all apps etc to free RAM you basically end up with more free RAM, but for what purpose. No use it sitting there empty - may as well go and buy a phone with 128MB rather than 1024MB if you dont want to use much RAM.
If you start an app that needs a lot of RAM (more than is currently free) the system just removes older apps from RAM to free up the RAM required.
It is not worth comparing your phone's normal RAM usage to another phone, each person has different apps and uses the phone in different ways. It makes no sense at all to compare two phones where RAM is concerned.
If your phone is running fine and you have some free RAM, even if just a smallish amount, then most likely things are running just as they should.
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Finally, someone that understands what RAM is really all about.
Too often, I see people trying to limit how much RAM is being used for no good reason. Like what was said, RAM is there to be used, not saved for a rainy day.
I do understand that ram is there to be use. Honestly, the moto g performs really well to my liking. But when i asked the ram usage i was referring to "future proofness" of the device. Good by today's standard but may not be the same after 1-2 android update. Since every update seems to be more resource hungry.
Conclusion: the moto g is very well built product for what we are doing "right now" but with very little wiggle room(RAM) for any future update.
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It seems with Android their focus is to reduce needed resources, that was one of the main features in 4.4
We cant predict the future but Linux/Windows 8 runs fine with 1GB of RAM so if Android begins to exceed this then we need a new mobile OS.
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urra901109 said:
I do understand that ram is there to be use. Honestly, the moto g performs really well to my liking. But when i asked the ram usage i was referring to "future proofness" of the device. Good by today's standard but may not be the same after 1-2 android update. Since every update seems to be more resource hungry.
Conclusion: the moto g is very well built product for what we are doing "right now" but with very little wiggle room(RAM) for any future update.
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It also depends if you will always want to update to the latest and greatest OS. Personally Im still running 4.3 on my moto g. The reason is that its performing very well and there is nothing in 4.4.2 that I want. Of course its tempting to upgrade to 4.4.2 to have those few hours of excitement but after those initial few hours I will be using my phone to do exactly the same things as Im doing now.
The only reason I would upgrade to a later Android version is if an app I used a lot became incompatible with 4.3 or if a new Android version increased battery life by some amazing amount.
So the chances are that for me, 4.3 on moto g, is very future proof.
Also consider that in just a couple of years its likely the moto g wont get any more official updates anyway so whether it can run Android version 6 (or whatever) with only 1GB RAM may not even be a point of discussion unless you want to run a custom ROM. If you do this the chances are you will probably have a trimmed down Android anyway, ie GAPPS initially removed etc so RAM usage will be less. Although I appreciate GAPPS isnt part of the OS as such and any GAPPS can be removed from RAM by the OS when required - so my point is sort of skewed there anyway
But I agree with the post above, if 1GB is not enough for the OS and a decent amount of apps to run well then Android is not an OS you really want to be using on a phone regardless of the amount of RAM you actually have.
I had in my hand my Moto G 4G, a Moto G 3G and a Moto E the other day. All of these phones advertise 1GB of RAM, yet when I checked the free RAM on all of them, they had respectively more RAM than the latter. When I totted up the used + free there was a difference of ~40MB to the 3G version, and over 100MB to the Moto E.
What gives? One of the reasons I upgraded was for more free RAM, and this is confusing me. And is it something that can be altered post-root?
For reference, my readout in Settings > Apps > Running is 662MB used, 187MB free = 849MB available.
Any carveout (multimedia, kernel, graphics, camera) will not be shown in this total; e.g. I do not know the details of these devices but what you see here in the 662+187 is what is available for user space apps to run; of course there are other components which need guaranteed RAM to run: kernel, buffer, graphics memory allocation. So that's where the missing RAM is. It's not really missing. It's just always allocated to the system and you want to be to that way.
Now, why is there a discrepancy between G, 4G G and E :
- Architecture (qcom) difference
- E's display is lower resolution, so you need smaller graphic/display carveout
- E has a lower resolution camera : smaller multimedia carveouts
- 4G has the LTE radio, which G does not..so probably needs some additional carveouts there (not sure about the exact architecute)
And, I totally fail to see why you would alter this post-root
kenbw2 said:
I had in my hand my Moto G 4G, a Moto G 3G and a Moto E the other day. All of these phones advertise 1GB of RAM, yet when I checked the free RAM on all of them, they had respectively more RAM than the latter. When I totted up the used + free there was a difference of ~40MB to the 3G version, and over 100MB to the Moto E.
What gives? One of the reasons I upgraded was for more free RAM, and this is confusing me. And is it something that can be altered post-root?
For reference, my readout in Settings > Apps > Running is 662MB used, 187MB free = 849MB available.
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Hello,
I'm thinking about buying a new phone and I want it to last some time without lags.
After some research, I realized that most phones on the market have 1GB RAM. Even the new Moto G, considered one of the best phones below 200€, has 1GB RAM.
Do you think that 1GB is enough to run smoothly the upcoming Android L with a decent amount of multitasking (Facebook, Tapatalk, Phone, Messaging...) and with minimum lag? How long do you think that this amount of RAM is going to be enough?
Hello Duarteman.. Are you the one from Redondo?
bcuraman said:
Hello Duarteman.. Are you the one from Redondo?
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Hello bcuraman, I'm sorry but I don't know what you meant. I don't know what/where is Redondo...
That's fine.I just thought you were someone that I know.
About your question: it depends on what you're planning to use it for.if its for heavy usage and apps,I would say that 1gb won't be enough. I'm now on Oppo Find 7,and my previous phone was a SGS3, amazing phone but with only 1gb of ram.. It didn't lag that much,but it was noticeable unresponsive with some heavy apps...
If you're one of those people who just intend to use phone,messaging and Facebook,then 1gb is enough... Android L might be a lighter system but that's just the OS.. The apps is what makes the difference...How long the 1gb of ram lasts will depend on the ammount of apps you'd have open and how you feel with the phone itself..
i think 1 GB ram not enough, i have my S890 with 1 GB ram, it had litte lag with JB 4.2 .
Duarteman said:
Hello,
I'm thinking about buying a new phone and I want it to last some time without lags.
After some research, I realized that most phones on the market have 1GB RAM. Even the new Moto G, considered one of the best phones below 200€, has 1GB RAM.
Do you think that 1GB is enough to run smoothly the upcoming Android L with a decent amount of multitasking (Facebook, Tapatalk, Phone, Messaging...) and with minimum lag? How long do you think that this amount of RAM is going to be enough?
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It depends on the phone. Moto G? Yeah, 1GB is enough, because it runs (nearly) stock Android. A phone with a heavy ROM like a Samsung with TouchWiz? 1GB is barely adequate, and you'll see lag.
If you've got 200€ to spend, look at a Nexus 4. 2GB RAM and the processor is still very capable. Especially running stock Android or any custom ROM you can find. No LTE in Europe though, but 42.2Mb/s HSPA+ is still pretty fast.
1 GB RAM is very common now
Depends on what you will use your phone for. 1GB will let you easily do the day to day tasks.
Planterz said:
It depends on the phone. Moto G? Yeah, 1GB is enough, because it runs (nearly) stock Android. A phone with a heavy ROM like a Samsung with TouchWiz? 1GB is barely adequate, and you'll see lag.
If you've got 200€ to spend, look at a Nexus 4. 2GB RAM and the processor is still very capable. Especially running stock Android or any custom ROM you can find. No LTE in Europe though, but 42.2Mb/s HSPA+ is still pretty fast.
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I'm looking for a phone with Pure Android but that is not a very important issue. For example, if I buy a Samsung I can change the Stock ROM by a clean AOSP one. The essential thing here is the Hardware. Is 1GB enough for a fluent experience doing the main tasks (Fb, phone, sms, ...) for a few years?
The Nexus 4 is one of the phones I'm thinking about. The only thing that I don't like in it is the camera, it's weak. Other phones I'm thinking about are the HTC One M7 (unfortunately they are still a bit expensive) and the Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (comes with a Quad Core and 2GB RAM). Other phones like the Moto G seem to be a nice deal and I can buy it new for less than 200€ but I'm really afraid that the (lack of) RAM.
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Depends on what you will use your phone for. 1GB will let you easily do the day to day tasks.
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Yes but that is for now... The question is how long will that last.
Thanks for all the replies btw!
Here in Canada , we only have access to the 1GB RAM version unfortunate. Anyone using this one have performance problems? Is it slow and lagging?
I believe the same apps are installed on both versions, so I can help you figure this out by analyzing the "running apps" memory usage on my phone (the 2GB one). Bear in mind that I'm using a dual sim variant and that my 3G data connection is enabled on the first sim and I have Whatsapp installed and running on my phone. So, here it goes:
Right now it shows that the system is using 375MB of RAM, the App 349MB and there are 1.2GB of RAM free.
So, if your usage is similar to mine, you should be left with 200MB of RAM free on your system, which, to me, equals a sluggish performance on any Android phone!
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No single lag here! I'm really excited with it,totally worth buying also no heat issue's at all.
400 MB free ram using the xt1540 1g version form koodo carrier running pure stock with some apps disabled.
Guest mode????
Do u guys have guest mode available on canadian version,guest mode not available in indian version ,i am using moto g32015 16gb/2gbversion