OPO and the fingerprint magnet - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't normally have an issue with a oily screen, but it's happening on my OPO. Its a fingerprint nightmare. Since this normally doesn't happen I have to assume that OPO doesn't have a oleophobic coating.
* Can someone else confirm fingerprint nightmare ...
* Has anyone used the Rain X trick and if so how did they apply it (pros/cons)
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magicriggs said:
I don't normally have an issue with a oily screen, but it's happening on my OPO. Its a fingerprint nightmare. Since this normally doesn't happen I have to assume that OPO doesn't have a oleophobic coating.
* Can someone else confirm fingerprint nightmare ...
* Has anyone used the Rain X trick and if so how did they apply it (pros/cons)
Thanks in advance. [emoji3]
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Mine is definitely a fingerprint magnet. Haven't done anything about it yet, since I've only had the phone for 2 days. I am constantly wiping the screen on my shirt or my pants. I'll look into RainX

magicriggs said:
I don't normally have an issue with a oily screen, but it's happening on my OPO. Its a fingerprint nightmare. Since this normally doesn't happen I have to assume that OPO doesn't have a oleophobic coating.
* Can someone else confirm fingerprint nightmare ...
* Has anyone used the Rain X trick and if so how did they apply it (pros/cons)
Thanks in advance. [emoji3]
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I'd probably just suggest getting a high quality glass screen protector, that way it is protected from scratches and they are also normally oleophobically treated

it does have an oleophobic coating. its the same as on any gorilla glass screen. you can try a matte screen protector, but they wear noticeably.

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Box included screen protectors

Since I haven't found a thread about this, for those who are curious about the screen protectors that are included in the box.
I've tried them on, its not oleophobic and its not scratch proof. Oh and it makes the phone look less good, because of the funny triangle cutoff they made.
Keeping them on for now till i get my hands on some better quality protectors... (getting Spigen GLAS.t) or might as well go naked glass and remove the antishatter film... but a screen like this.. deserves some extra protection... as long the protection itself doesnt make look bad.
Several threads about this already. In every post that talks about the provided screen protectors, it's been discussed they are not oleophopic, etc.
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no protectors in my box
Back screen protector affects the camera when taking pictures with.the flash by blurring the right side of the pic.
biffsmash said:
Back screen protector affects the camera when taking pictures with.the flash by blurring the right side of the pic.
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Then yours was not applied right.
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biffsmash said:
Back screen protector affects the camera when taking pictures with.the flash by blurring the right side of the pic.
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See if you have applied it properly. The NFC logo does cause a bump in the screen protector. Weird.
You still got the NFC sticker on under the back screen protector?
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My included screen protectors went on the day I had the phone - in my experience the highest chance of scratching, dropping, scuffing or knocking a new phone is in the first few days and weeks when your hands aren't quite used to the shape and size of it.
I'll keep these on until they start looking tatty - which may not be very much longer, especially for the back one - then relace with something nicer.
Rashkae said:
Then yours was not applied right.
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It was applied perfectly well thank you very much.
Sony confirmed to me that they cause issues with the camera flash in low light conditions and have agreed to replace my phone due to the original factory fitted protectors being scratched.
Please don't jump to stupid conclusions that people don't know how to apply screen protectors. I am almost 40 and have been using mobile phones since the very first bricks and have been applying screen protectors since they first came out also.
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alnikki25k said:
See if you have applied it properly. The NFC logo does cause a bump in the screen protector. Weird.
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I removed the NFC logo. I'm getting my phone replaced and will be putting the new one in a case and having an invisible shield on the front.
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I immediately put on the Front AND Back screen protectors included in-box for my C6603 AFTER taking off the NFC sticker, but kept the anti shatter screen on as well, after hearing it was incredibly prone. My XZ hardly picks up any fingerprints or dust, and has no scratches whatsoever. Also, I've found everything about the viewing angles and contrast to really not matter at all in general use - but this is my first phone since the good ol' LG Cookie.
I getting these! http://dx-box.com/imak-anti-fingerprint-layer-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z.html
I currently have the screen protectors on that came with the phone and they suck lol ugly triangle cut,finger prints get on easily, scratch easily but, w/e there're temporary no more f****** dust! so, when i get these Imak screen protectors i will let you guys know if they are good or not!
In my Box didn't included any screen protectors... :/
alnikki25k said:
See if you have applied it properly. The NFC logo does cause a bump in the screen protector. Weird.
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Dude... if you got yours paste by the shop and yours got a bump caused by the NFC sticker... please go and smack the person who paste the SP for you because they should remote that sticker first before pasting the SP.
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Ahh, No protectors in my box.
Teknohtc said:
I getting these! http://dx-box.com/imak-anti-fingerprint-layer-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z.html
I currently have the screen protectors on that came with the phone and they suck lol ugly triangle cut,finger prints get on easily, scratch easily but, w/e there're temporary no more f****** dust! so, when i get these Imak screen protectors i will let you guys know if they are good or not!
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Is this like tempered glass sp? If it is,this must be the cheapest one available so far.
biffsmash said:
It was applied perfectly well thank you very much.
Sony confirmed to me that they cause issues with the camera flash in low light conditions and have agreed to replace my phone due to the original factory fitted protectors being scratched.
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Hi mate, could you explain by "original factory fitted protectors being scratched"? What color is your phone? I'm also having problems with taking pictures in low light. Thanks in advance.
joejoe23 said:
Is this like tempered glass sp? If it is,this must be the cheapest one available so far.
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nope just regular protectors!
Problem with camera
After applying protectors included with box .. Camera flash is not so effective and creating problem ... Like blue tint ... Should I remove this protector ..this is. Not anti shatter film it is regular protector

Screen coating is coming off?

Noticed that from the place where my thumb usually makes up/down scroll is strange area, and even I clean the screen, this area is still there. See Yourself - I made a picture, clean screen, water steam (breath), and this middle area is the problem. My thumb is normal, I'm a normal user and I had newer such problem with any phone.
Is the Gorilla Glass really so bad or is it coated with some stuff which is just coming off?
ksuuk said:
Noticed that from the place where my thumb usually makes up/down scroll is strange area, and even I clean the screen, this area is still there. See Yourself - I made a picture, clean screen, water steam (breath), and this middle area is the problem. My thumb is normal, I'm a normal usre and I had newer such problem with any phone.
Is the Gorilla Glass really so bad or is it coated with some stuff which is just coming off?
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woow thats something new..and AFAIK gorilla glass has no coating. what so ever
Do you have some kind scree guard or something?
abhirulz94 said:
woow thats something new..and AFAIK gorilla glass has no coating. what so ever
Do you have some kind scree guard or something?
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No, I have not used any kind of screen cover, but seems that Moto G screen is covered with the the water-resistance coating and this is failing off - it's clearly visible when cleaning the screen with some liquid, only this area stays wet.
But I don't think this is normal behavior. I can't imagine what the power users screen is now or will be later. I contacted with the Amazon ( I have one dead pixel too), let's see what they say.
ksuuk said:
No, I have not used any kind of screen cover, but seems that Moto G screen is covered with the the water-resistance coating and this is failing off - it's clearly visible when cleaning the screen with some liquid, only this area stays wet.
But I don't think this is normal behavior. I can't imagine what the power users screen is now or will be later. I contacted with the Amazon ( I have one dead pixel too), let's see what they say.
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If it contains a dead pixel better get a replacement, all the best for that.
BTW water repellent coating is done on the internals of the device.
abhirulz94 said:
If it contains a dead pixel better get a replacement, all the best for that.
BTW water repellent coating is done on the internals of the device.
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I know about internal coating. But as You see, the screen is also coated. I have the proof.
I made a test, sprayed water to the screen, and as You see, the damaged area stays wet, while the rest rejects it.
The question is - do I have faulty screen or this will happen to everyone sooner or later?
ksuuk said:
I know about internal coating. But as You see, the screen is also coated. I have the proof.
I made a test, sprayed water to the screen, and as You see, the damaged area stays wet, while the rest rejects it.
The question is - do I have faulty screen or this will happen to everyone sooner or later?
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well you are the first one to report something like this and i agree with you because this might happen with others also sooner or later. Its very much possible that your screen is faulty since you mentioned its new (maybe the screen had tiny dust particle before the coating took place) many members are using the phone without any screen-guard but none have mentioned anything like this..A lot of member have got dead pixels on their screens and got them replaced.
I'm using a screen guard since the screen will get scratched over the time.
abhirulz94 said:
well you are the first one to report something like this and i agree with you because this might happen with others also sooner or later. Its very much possible that your screen is faulty since you mentioned its new (maybe the screen had tiny dust particle before the coating took place) many members are using the phone without any screen-guard but none have mentioned anything like this..A lot of member have got dead pixels on their screens and got them replaced.
I'm using a screen guard since the screen will get scratched over the time.
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Well, Amazon just replied and they will replace it with the new one, so I have to wait for the new one and later send the old one back. Let's hope that this one's screen ( I still don't like to add the screen protector, as it's kind of ugly) will last longer.
If you apply the screen protector carefully, you won't even know it's on! It's your choice tough but what you reported is pretty worrying. That area of the screen seems too big tough for it to be a thumb, (you touch with just the tip of the thumb) do it was probably already a little damaged when you got it and with the time it got bigger and bigger. Or maybe you scratched your screen somehow?
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the is an oliophobic coating on the screen of the moto g (part of the gorilla glas). this is also the reason why you generally get less fingerprints on the display than on a screen protector and why it's much easier to clean the display than the scren protector
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If you apply the screen protector carefully, you won't even know it's on! It's your choice tough but what you reported is pretty worrying. That area of the screen seems too big tough for it to be a thumb, (you touch with just the tip of the thumb) do it was probably already a little damaged when you got it and with the time it got bigger and bigger. Or maybe you scratched your screen somehow?
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I'm 100% sure that I haven't scratched the screen purposely, juts normal, id even say careful using. And if I clean the screen, it's bright and like a new, impossible to detect any damages, also this problematic area is clean and shiny. But when I touch it or spray water etc, it's clearly visible. So choices are:
1) Add screen protector (let someone do it, once I added it to iPhone and the result was terrible).
2) Polish the whole screen, so that this coating is removed.
3) Replace.
4) Ignore.
blockbusta said:
the is an oliophobic coating on the screen of the moto g (part of the gorilla glas). this is also the reason why you generally get less fingerprints on the display than on a screen protector and why it's much easier to clean the display than the scren protector
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Yes, You are right, it's anti-fingerprint oleophobic coating and be warned, seems it's just won't last.

Way to reduce smudges on the screen?

It seems like my phone is always covered in gross looking smudges... I never had this problem with my previous phones. I can only see them when the screen is off in fairness. Is there a coating or something I can apply to fix this?
Thanks.
fncontroloption said:
It seems like my phone is always covered in gross looking smudges... I never had this problem with my previous phones. I can only see them when the screen is off in fairness. Is there a coating or something I can apply to fix this?
Thanks.
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apply a screen protector you won't get rid of smudges anyway but you will at least prevent the phone from scratching when try to remove the smudges with your cloth or any hard material
the best way to remove smudges is by using a fiber cloth + alcohol
the alcohol as you know should be minimal concentration like a perfume or something
AlMaghraby said:
apply a screen protector you won't get rid of smudges anyway but you will at least prevent the phone from scratching when try to remove the smudges with your cloth or any hard material
the best way to remove smudges is by using a fiber cloth + alcohol
the alcohol as you know should be minimal concentration like a perfume or something
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Thanks. Was hoping for a way to avoid having to remove the smudges at all... Anyone?
fncontroloption said:
Thanks. Was hoping for a way to avoid having to remove the smudges at all... Anyone?
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I have no smudges, and if there's few fingerprints its easy to clean, just wipe. Coming from Huawei that doesn't use oleophobic coating at all, i know what smudges are.
fncontroloption said:
It seems like my phone is always covered in gross looking smudges... I never had this problem with my previous phones. I can only see them when the screen is off in fairness. Is there a coating or something I can apply to fix this?
Thanks.
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I exchanged my sapphire blue, due to this issue. If the smudges don't wipe off, you may have the glass oleophobic coating issue. If it bothers you that much, either send for repair, exchange or keep it as is. They're the only official options available.

Screen protector discussion

I think I just ran into my first real problem with the phone. I got a glass screen protector on Amazon, and it absolutely refuses to recognize my fingerprint with the glass on it. The error just keeps telling me to press harder. I never had any issue before without one on.
Took the screen protector off, and now it's back to normal.
I have each thumb trained twice, so recognition shouldn't be a problem at all. I think it's just too thick and it isn't sensing enough pressure to register the fingerprint.
Anyone find a good screen protector that works with fingerprint? I may have to go with a plastic one that won't be as thick as glass.
Harfainx said:
I think I just ran into my first real problem with the phone. I got a glass screen protector on Amazon, and it absolutely refuses to recognize my fingerprint with the glass on it.
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This is disappointing. When I first looked into this, I found someone claiming to have tested the Oneplus 6T fingerprint sensor with 3 screen protectors on top of each other. I concluded it was not an issue. But now I am seeing plently or articles suggesting that it depends. E.g. "Vivo did mention that only screen protectors of a certain thickness will work with the sensor". I wonder if Nokia will offer or recommend a screen protector.
Also, I don't know if Nokia are using the same sensor as Oneplus, but this is interesting: "[when registering] make sure your environment is not too bright. If possible, you should register a fingerprint in a completely dark environment."
Edit, also spotted this: "We also recommend re-registering your fingerprint every time you add or remove a screen protector."
So as an update, I applied the second screen protector that came in the 2-pack. Removed all of my fingerprints that were stored, and tried to setup new prints.
Took me about 200 tries to get my right thumb registered (not exaggerating), but I couldn't get it to actually read when trying to activate it.
Couldn't get my left thumb to register at all. Just kept saying to press harder. I was pressing so hard I thought I'd break the screen if I pushed harder.
Tried in bright light, as well as a completely dark room. Didn't change the ability for it to register at all.
So overall for this phone, I'm going to say glass screen protectors won't reliably work with the fingerprint scanner. I've ordered a plastic screen protector. Going to try that out, as I'm pretty sure it will work.
I imagine the thickness of glass is the culprit here, due to how the fingerprint sensor works even without a screen protector applied. It seems more difficult to activate than other in-display readers (I have 3 others with in-display readers and they're all incredibly easy to use).
Fingerprint issues aside, I normally go for glass screen protectors because the plastic ones tend to cause more drag when using the phone.
I have generally seen two models. One which is clear and another which has a black border, both with cutouts for sensors, cameras and speakers.
I'm unable to add a link as I'm new to the forums but both examples can be seen on Amazon by searching 'GEEMEE 9h nokia 9 pureview'
Has anyone bought these or similar protectors?
I am interested to know if the black border one covers any part of the screen. I think it looks better on the pictures but in real life I'm not sure how it would look.
I got the Mr.Shield 9h glass and it works fine. The issue with the fingerprint is a software issue. The warning to press harder is not correct. I've verified that the reader will read with normal to light pressure. Hopefully they will release an update that fixes it within the next couple months.
MoseMan said:
Fingerprint issues aside, I normally go for glass screen protectors because the plastic ones tend to cause more drag when using the phone.
I have generally seen two models. One which is clear and another which has a black border, both with cutouts for sensors, cameras and speakers.
I'm unable to add a link as I'm new to the forums but both examples can be seen on Amazon by searching 'GEEMEE 9h nokia 9 pureview'
Has anyone bought these or similar protectors?
I am interested to know if the black border one covers any part of the screen. I think it looks better on the pictures but in real life I'm not sure how it would look.
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I just got the screen protector with the black borders, and it doesn't cover any part of the screen. I think it looks good. But I was a bit sloppy when I applied it and one of the corners has an air bubble which I can't get rid of.
But since I applied it, the fingerprint scanner is causing me problems. It has problems recognizing my prints
Zurion said:
I just got the screen protector with the black borders, and it doesn't cover any part of the screen. I think it looks good. But I was a bit sloppy when I applied it and one of the corners has an air bubble which I can't get rid of.
But since I applied it, the fingerprint scanner is causing me problems. It has problems recognizing my prints
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I ended up going for a clear one tempered glass protector. I have a couple of tiny bubbles which was just me rushing as I was excited.
The finger print sensor works fine as long as I get my finger in the correct place but that is a challenge. My thumb is more difficult but still possible. It hasn't been a massive burden though because I have been using face and trusted bluetooth device to good effect.

Accessories Whitestone Dome & Fingerprint Sensor

Has anyone else had a problem with using the sensor after applying the Whitestone glass screen protector? Is there a way to install it to make this better?
You should reregister your fingerprints after installing any screen protector. + you can turn on touch sensivity. (under display settings)
I noticed after going from my Spigen screen protector (had a glass feel but is a soft film) to the Whitestone Dome Glass on my S22 Ultra, I definitely have to press down harder (pretty firmly and no real wiggling of the thumb seems to work best) and use more full on thumb to get it to register properly. It takes ever so slightly longer to register and unlock for me than compared to the Spigen protector, but I do like the Whitestone Dome Glass more overall.
Putting on the WSD had no impact at all on my FP sensor. It was a bit finicky before and exactly the same after. I had found before I put the WSD on that it is 100% perfect every time if I moisten my thumb. Same after the WSD. With a dry thumb, most times it gives me the message "Cover the entire sensor" or "Press harder".
Things I did to help avoid any further degradation after install. During installation, pressed on the sensor area for about 30 seconds after the first cure and just before 2nd cure. Re-register prints after the WSD install. Set touch sensitivity on. Registered my thumb twice. After the install the FPS was exactly the same as before the install so no impact I can see. It is just that this FPS does not like dry prints. Moisten and many people find it works perfectly. I have found that I don't actually have to wet or lick my thumb, just breathing on it once is enough.
Because I generally use face ID to unlock, the FP is not a big deal to me. When I use an app like banking or Google Pay that require FP unlock, I do the breath on the thumb first and it usually works immediately.
4 - Fix Fingerprint Experience​Go to Settings, Biometrics and security, more biometrics settings:
- Turn off "Show unlock transition effect"
Go to Settings, Biometrics and security, fingerprints:
- Turn on "Fingerprint always on"
- Turn off "Show animation when unlocking"
- Set battery usage to "Unrestricted" for "com.samsung.android.biometrics.app.setting".
- Disable app optimizations for "com.samsung.android.biometrics.app.setting".
Do OtterBox cases and defender cases work well with this screen protector?
Want to know before I buy the device. Thanks
this.guy.lol said:
Do OtterBox cases and defender cases work well with this screen protector?
Want to know before I buy the device. Thanks
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I'm using an Otterbox case with Gadgetshieldz screen guard and it fits perfectly because I got the case fit protector!
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Has anyone else had a problem with using the sensor after applying the Whitestone glass screen protector? Is there a way to install it to make this better?
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Next to redoing the scanning of the prints, I find that having to dry skin affects it often. See if handcream or just moisten the finger a very little helps.
Mario919 said:
Next to redoing the scanning of the prints, I find that having to dry skin affects it often. See if handcream or just moisten the finger a very little helps.
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Yes, as has been described before, I find just breathing on my thumb is enough to make it work perfectly every time.
A tip I learned a while ago was when I first cure using the uv light and remove it from the jig is to gently press down where the fingerprint scanner is before 2nd curing which in my experience certainly helps.
iam using ARMOR SUIT screen protector, work just fine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09RZMCLWP?psc=1
BandOfBrothers1 said:
A tip I learned a while ago was when I first cure using the uv light and remove it from the jig is to gently press down where the fingerprint scanner is before 2nd curing which in my experience certainly helps.
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My first install was a complete dud as the fingerprint scanner didn't work at all, even after registering. I tried pressing down on the scanner on my 2nd install and while it worked better, it still only worked about 30% of the time after registering my prints again.
Unfortunately I'm sending my protectors back to Amazon for a refund as neither install method worked for me.
I guess the powers that be at Android are catching on to this. I just got an unsolicited system message with a few suggestions to make the fingerprint sensor work better. The last one on the list was to "try moisturizing" your fingertip. lol! Guess there is not a software fix for this coming anytime soon.
Hi guys, my film is slightly chipped on one side, it doesn't bother using it, do I still have to replace it with another one or do I leave it like this?
visually it doesn't bother me but it worries me about protection if I accidentally take a hit.
babak said:
Hi guys, my film is slightly chipped on one side, it doesn't bother using it, do I still have to replace it with another one or do I leave it like this?
visually it doesn't bother me but it worries me about protection if I accidentally take a hit.
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I personally, can not withstand chipped or cracked screen protectors, as soon as a crack or dent appears, I take the protector off, as it has already worked by absorbing the damage, but that is my opinion…
winoles said:
I personally, can not withstand chipped or cracked screen protectors, as soon as a crack or dent appears, I take the protector off, as it has already worked by absorbing the damage, but that is my opinion…
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Yes, I have already replaced it, let's hope not to spoil this too, I need a better case but impossible to find what I want.

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