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Has anyone had a problem with extremely slow charging? I would plug my phone in and wake up 6 hours later and the phone is still not charged. It's even worse now with the extended battery. 7 hours worth of charging and I'm only at 85%. I'm rooted and using the de-bloat rom without the kernel, but it was like this even before the root. Has anyone else encountered this strange issue. I have been using the stock HTC charger.
mine charges in a couple hours using the wall charger and wifi hotspot. In the car or via computer USB, it charges very slowly and if wifi hotspot is on, it loses charger over time.
I typically turn my phone off to charge; speeds things up 2-3 fold.
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Has anyone had a problem with extremely slow charging? I would plug my phone in and wake up 6 hours later and the phone is still not charged. It's even worse now with the extended battery. 7 hours worth of charging and I'm only at 85%. I'm rooted and using the de-bloat rom without the kernel, but it was like this even before the root. Has anyone else encountered this strange issue. I have been using the stock HTC charger.
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Mine doesn't even take an hour . Power it off and try it that way and see how long it takes.
damn mine charges super fast compared to my nexus s i had
If you have plug to the computer it might take longer but not 6 hours, on the wall it only takes like an hour or two to be fully charge.
If it's an issue just take it back and get another one.
Yeah I might have to return this phone. Do you think it matters whether I use the cable that came with the phone, or a regular usb cable to charge.
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You need to look at the power ratings of the adapters you're using. This behemoth phone can receive 1000ma, while many car and home chargers (like Droid1) are only rated at 500ma. I'm still trying to figure out what the power draw is on the phone when just idling (battery monitor widget is hard to understand), but if the phone draws 250-500ma with regular usage, its going to lose charge plugged into USB (rated at 500ma per port) and running hotspot (drawing closer to 600ma). That's -100ma.
These numbers are guesstimates. I'm not sure if the cable itself can pose limitations, but would suspect that as long as there's no shorts in the wire, it would be able to handle any of the above currents.
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You need to look at the power ratings of the adapters you're using. This behemoth phone can receive 1000ma, while many car and home chargers (like Droid1) are only rated at 500ma. I'm still trying to figure out what the power draw is on the phone when just idling (battery monitor widget is hard to understand), but if the phone draws 250-500ma with regular usage, its going to lose charge plugged into USB (rated at 500ma per port) and running hotspot (drawing closer to 600ma). That's -100ma.
These numbers are guesstimates. I'm not sure if the cable itself can pose limitations, but would suspect that as long as there's no shorts in the wire, it would be able to handle any of the above currents.
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yeah i find it impossible to charge the thing on USB, and it takes forever plugged into the wall with the charger it came with.
Had an evo, and it would almost full charge (from the time it said to plug it in, so 15%) in about an hour and a half. The thunderbolt seems to take 3 hours ish for me. I know I can turn the phone off, but since it usually charges over night its not a big deal, I just think it is interesting that it is so different.
yeah I'm one of the folks who charges FAST. It has really surprised me...I actually thought everyone was charging super fast until this thread.
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You need to look at the power ratings of the adapters you're using. This behemoth phone can receive 1000ma, while many car and home chargers (like Droid1) are only rated at 500ma. I'm still trying to figure out what the power draw is on the phone when just idling (battery monitor widget is hard to understand), but if the phone draws 250-500ma with regular usage, its going to lose charge plugged into USB (rated at 500ma per port) and running hotspot (drawing closer to 600ma). That's -100ma.
These numbers are guesstimates. I'm not sure if the cable itself can pose limitations, but would suspect that as long as there's no shorts in the wire, it would be able to handle any of the above currents.
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+1 on looking at your adapter. Use the one that comes with the phone or make sure that it's rated at 1000mA/1A or more. I tried a MicroUSB adapter I had lying around that came with a bluetooth headset; turns out it only puts out 200mA, so the phone would take forever to charge on it.
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+1 on looking at your adapter. Use the one that comes with the phone or make sure that it's rated at 1000mA/1A or more. I tried a MicroUSB adapter I had lying around that came with a bluetooth headset; turns out it only puts out 200mA, so the phone would take forever to charge on it.
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with an output of 200mA I would be amazed if you could get this phone to charge at all, without having a custome kernel and underclocking the processor. If anything I would see it maybe staying same battery percentage.
Overall I feel this phone does charge really slow. It is way slow charging on a computer. I was charging it and just doing some light texting and after 4 hours the battery only went up by like 25%.
I have a second wall charger rated at 1000mAH, and after 30min it went up like 10%. This was with the phone off btw. With it on, but not in use, it went up like 4% over 30min. I'm kind of surprised how long it takes to charge. I've had no problems charging it at night. Plug it in before bed, and its full when I wake up. How does the 1400mAH battery size compare to other phones?
I did a little math too, the battery is a 5.18 W/hr battery. So with a 1AH charge at 5V, you'd expect the phone to charge in 2 hrs if only about 50% of the electricity is getting retained by the battery.
I've noticed that mine takes about 1hr 45ish mins to charge from completly dead. My Droid used to be an hour at the most.
i just checked on the adapter it came with, it's 200 mA...did people get better chargers than me or something? Mine takes forever to charge also...been stuck at 99% for 30 mins
EDIT: nvm, i was looking at input, not output...still isnt moving from 99% to 100% though
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Mine doesn't even take an hour . Power it off and try it that way and see how long it takes.
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WTF are u talking about 0-100% or like 70-100%?
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damn mine charges super fast compared to my nexus s i had
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@lorijuan1024 im with you man the Nexus S took forever...... To charge
its impossible for me to charge it through the computer, it went up 5% over 3 hours, wasnt on hotspot, sending texts.
Mine charges fine on anything, I am using my old fascinate charger.
Charging speed seems to fluctuate for me... sometimes I get lucky and its fast. Other times, not so much.
I was using the stock 700mA charger that came with the SGSIII and immediately switched to the 850ma charger as the stock one wasn't giving it enough power to do anything even while charging. Well I just found my 1amp micro usb charger earlier today and have started using that because the 850 wasn't doing the job either with Pandora running while im doing stuff around the house. The S3 charges fine when I'm not messing with it at all but even the 1amp charger isn't keeping this beast completely charged when I'm watching youtube or something like that. Are there any 1.5 to 2amp chargers out there that will keep it from dying so fast even while using it? Thank you for any input you guys can give me . Oh and by the way I don't have power saving mode on as I can't stand the slowness of my phone and the display on max. When its charging I expect the charger to do its job and thats why I'm asking if a 1.5 or 2amp charger would do better. Thanks everyone.
-Nick
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I was using the stock 700mA charger that came with the SGSIII and immediately switched to the 850ma charger as the stock one wasn't giving it enough power to do anything even while charging. Well I just found my 1amp micro usb charger earlier today and have started using that because the 850 wasn't doing the job either with Pandora running while im doing stuff around the house. The S3 charges fine when I'm not messing with it at all but even the 1amp charger isn't keeping this beast completely charged when I'm watching youtube or something like that. Are there any 1.5 to 2amp chargers out there that will keep it from dying so fast even while using it? Thank you for any input you guys can give me . Oh and by the way I don't have power saving mode on as I can't stand the slowness of my phone and the display on max. When its charging I expect the charger to do its job and thats why I'm asking if a 1.5 or 2amp charger would do better. Thanks everyone.
-Nick
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The S3 limits the input to a little less than 1 AMP, so anything faster is useless.
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The S3 limits the input to a little less than 1 AMP, so anything faster is useless.
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That's strange because I use my 2amp car charger and it never loses power even when screen brightness is all the way up and navigation is going. Then I switched to my old 700mA charger and it drains really fast. So I'm pretty much confused now hahaha.
Charging wise this is the fastest charging smartphone I've ever owned. And I'm a phone whore. From hero, instinct 1/2, evo, evo3d, hd2, note, and a few others. Anyone else notice
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It seems to charge pretty fast from the A/C charger but plugging it in to your Pc seems to take FOREVER.
Mine takes forever charging no matter what. Ive put it on the charger at 50% and it took 3hours ish to get back to 100%. Granted my phone could probably go two days with four hours of on screen time too.
Granted I can't speak for stock because I rooted asap. I mainly use AC 95% too. Not sure if how much root affects it, I'm on synergy (awesome btw).
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mathematically yes. My old droid x charged at a max 750ish mA. The S3 charges at 1000mA
It is just you...
In my case at least.
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Charging on AC is really fast for me too. Car charging and PC charging not so much.
GNEX was my fastest charging smartphone...but also had the worst battery life.
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It is just you...
In my case at least.
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Awesome thanks
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sprintuser1977 said:
Charging wise this is the fastest charging smartphone I've ever owned. And I'm a phone whore. From hero, instinct 1/2, evo, evo3d, hd2, note, and a few others. Anyone else notice
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I am betting it's because most of us have 1amp or 2.1 amp chargers available in the car. I, personally, still use the motorola 950mAh car charger, which speeds thru the charging process too.
USB still pumps out 500 mAh at best, always gonna be slow.
None of this has to do with the phone, btw.
Slow charging for me. But its random. Sometimes its decently quick but other times it takes forever to charge. Fastest phone to charge for me was the OG droid.
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I've noticed that when its plugged into the wall charger, its super fast, computer though is utterly slow.
Its really fast, about an hour and I'm at 100% from 0%.
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Its really fast, about an hour and I'm at 100% from 0%.
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About same here, on wall
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There is a thing in the charging port that only the samsung charger activated that allows charing upwards of 1000 when using normal micro usb only does 300.
If you download imosyens leankernal he developed it into the kernal that you go to terminal editor and put "ffc"and charger will go as fast as thr samsung one.
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Lol I'm the opposite. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus this phone charges much slower. Galaxy Nexus would be fully charged in maybe an hour and a half. With the GS3 it's closer to 3 hours for a full charge. Hear it's the low-power brick that comes with it though.
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Lol I'm the opposite. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus this phone charges much slower. Galaxy Nexus would be fully charged in maybe an hour and a half. With the GS3 it's closer to 3 hours for a full charge. Hear it's the low-power brick that comes with it though.
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Yep. For example, the Motorola SPN5400A will charge the S3 in about 1\2 to 1\3 the time it would take if plugged into a USB port. I honestly believe it's because it has quality internal circuitry. Hell, at .95 mAh it charges quicker than most 2.1mAh chargers. Again, has nothing to do with the phones, it's the chargers that come with.
mine charges pretty quick as well. best phone ive had hands down.
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Lol I'm the opposite. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus this phone charges much slower. Galaxy Nexus would be fully charged in maybe an hour and a half. With the GS3 it's closer to 3 hours for a full charge. Hear it's the low-power brick that comes with it though.
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3 hrs seems off. I think I could wire mine to my electric razor and charge it faster
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Just for info, my wireless energizer pad and Verizon wireless door charge faster than the factory charger. And my factory charger will charge between 1.5 and 2 hours from 3% or 4%.
If you are taking over 2 hours I would check the battery and make sure it isn't swollen or something wrong with it. As far as usb most ports are "as stated above" not going to supply juice fast enough to charge quickly.
And it's probably worth seeing if something is on thats sucking power, Bluetooth, gps, facebook, anything that sync's alot. And using almost as much power as the usb is putting out.
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Ive seen threads for almost all the wireless chargers except this one, so ive decided to create one to unite all the information.
Ive just ordered it on amazon for 50€.
What is your experience with it guys? Cant wait to recieve it.
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I have one here and it works fine, charges my phone with no problem and temperatures never go above 36c. The only two issues I have is firstly the Nexus 4 slides around on this thing like there is a layer of Teflon between the phone and charger. I heartily recommend LEAVING the protective film that the Maxell comes with ON the charger that stops the phone slipping.
Secondly forget about using daydream with the charger, in my experience daydream uses up too much power to be useful with wireless charging. The battery charges at snail pace and the phone heats up to over 45c with daydream enabled. I like the Maxell and I like wireless charging my first choice would be the Nexus Orb if it was available, but the Maxell does a good a job as any.
Thanks for the advice. Will keep maxell plastic on. Wish they could deliver it faster. Will take a month
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Just got one of these from eBay for £42. Seems to charge fine with the N4 the S line TPC case on.
My only, albeit minor, issue with it is the bright blue LED which illuminates while charging. This is easily resolved by making sure the N4 covers it or stick a bit of dark tape on top.
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I just picked a Maxell Air Voltage charger up from Ebay here in the UK, it is a very nice bit of kit I must say and works great, the only downside is that the charging range isnt too good, I was expecting at least 6mm so that I could charge it whilst it was in my flip case, it wont charge through the flip case and it wont charge through any case that is metal or has a foil liner this of course is fairly obvious.
i am sure some of the thinner plastic half cases and gel cases it will be fine, I think that the Nillkin Fashion Shape Flip Leather Case is also OK with it so I will pick one of those up with it.
I tested the effective range with UK 2 x 1p pieces stacked on top of each other which is 3.0 mm thick in total, so if your case it over 3mm thick then it wont work without taking the phone out of the case, something to think about if you are going to get this charger.
I wouldnt hang on to get the orb charger, thats a long way off IMHO, the Maxell air voltage is a great unit, is cheap and will work with other QI devices, well worth getting it.
Sounds good so far. I've ordered mine off Amazon after hesitating because of the price.. Taking ages to arrive during this holiday season. Looking forward to it.
Had mine for around 2 weeks now, works perfectly with my tpu case on.
Did originally have daydream turned on and it was a little slow but now its off it charges great.
Well worth the money. If they were a little cheaper i'd buy another!
hi,
does it use 110 or 220 voltage?
I also have the Maxell charger of Ebay and it charges through the Nillkin hard case with no issues at all which was a deal breaker for me if it couldn't.
I agree with the comment to leave Daydream off as it seems to charge the phone better..
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Just got mine. It got up to 98%, does yours get to 100%?
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Mine gets up to 100% although not the first time that I charged it for some reason...
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ianm said:
Just got one of these from eBay for £42. Seems to charge fine with the N4 the S line TPC case on.
My only, albeit minor, issue with it is the bright blue LED which illuminates while charging. This is easily resolved by making sure the N4 covers it or stick a bit of dark tape on top.
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Cheers mate, I was a bit worried about charging through my S-Line case. I've just ordered one from play. I have a desktop stand, but sometimes the connection doesn't fit in properly.
Got my nillkin case for my n4 which is superb and can confirm the Maxwell does charge through it as the other poster mentioned so it isn't a one off, if the case was a little thicker it won't do it though so be warned
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Just got mine. It got up to 98%, does yours get to 100%?
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Mine is getting stuck at 89%. Then it goes in to a state of limbo where it disconnects, uses up a bit of charge, reconnects, gets back to 89% disconnects, etc etc.
Anyone else? Defective unit?
Also, has anyone else suffered severe battery life deterioration after using this? It may well just be coincidence but about 3 days after first using it my battery life has fallen off a cliff. The Android Kernal OS is suddenly showing up at over 30% usage on the stock battery data page, whereas before it was under 10%.
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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Makaijin said:
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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What im going to do to solve this is buy a electricity temporizator and set it to 3 h so it stops once those hours are done. I always charge mobile at the same hour.
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Makaijin said:
Working fine with mine no problems. But I find when it charges to 100% it waits until it drops to 95% before recharging again. This is fine as I understand that qi charging doesn't allow for trickle charging, so it's either full power or no power. I wouldn't say it degrades the battery life but rather it screws up the battery stats. To fix this I just plug the usb charger once a week or so.
I think the capacity reading gets messed a bit as due to the on/off charging after reaching full charge, since unlike trickle charging where the battery's voltage is kept constant, the voltage is always raising or falling. Depending on when you take your phone away with you in relation to its current charge state you might get a slightly lower capacity for that particular charge.
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Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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Source.
Cuz all that contradicts lithium theory.
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Source.
Cuz all that contradicts lithium theory.
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Batteryuniversity.com
Lakino said:
Trickle charging is horrible for lithium ion/poly batteries. Unplug from AC charger as soon as you can. LiOn batteries don't like to be at full peak 4.2v for long. It's actually better that many of these Qi chargers are only charging to 89 or 95% of capacity by the wireless charges. It's better for the long life of the battery. Charge them often too. Don't let it go down to 10% or 5%. Put them on the charger when your phone is down to 50% and take them off the charger when they get to 90%. It's easy to do with a wireless charger.
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I'm actually aware that constant trickle charging at full charge isn't ideal for long term health of the battery. Which is why I mentioned I only plug the wired usb charger once a week. I only plug it in for about 30 mins so the voltage stabilises as to help the phone more accurately display its charge % state better. Obviously it's all subjective as I've yet to actually perform any tests to see if it's ture or not.
On the subject of long term battery health, trickle charging on wired may not be ideal, but nor is wireless charging due to heat it produces. During wireless charging, according to my battery stats widget the phone reaches 39°C, while wired usb it never goes above 22°C (room temp. basically). The good thing about wireless charging is the heat drops back down when the battery is full and the qi charger is no longer sending any current. But when the charge drops back down to 95 % it restarts charging again, and the heat returns.
So, which is more harmful to the battery, heat or constant trickle charging? In either cases it's still a good practice to remove the phone from the charger (both wired or wireless) once it's reached full charge.
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M using 2a charger from galaxy tab for my galaxy s4 (2600mah) . It charge so fast 100% in 1.30min. Is it dangerous? Cos the original 1 charger take 2.30min to full charge
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M using 2a charger from galaxy tab for my galaxy s4 (2600mah) . It charge so fast 100% in 1.30min. Is it dangerous? Cos the original 1 charger take 2.30min to full charge
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Heat is what damages the battery, not how fast it charges. But faster charging means more heat. Just make sure it doesn't get too hot. If it gets too hot, the phone should shut it down anyway. I use a 1.8 or 2 amp charger on my phones all the time and I've never had a problem with it getting too hot. But be careful if you're using the phone while it's charging, especially watching video or playing a game or downloading something big, because this can make the phone very hot very quickly. Again though, if it gets too hot, your phone will shut down to protect itself.
New batteries are pretty cheap anyway.
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M using 2a charger from galaxy tab for my galaxy s4 (2600mah) . It charge so fast 100% in 1.30min. Is it dangerous? Cos the original 1 charger take 2.30min to full charge
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as you might already don't know that the charging current capability is limited by the device kernel it self. but now a days kernels are smart so they know when a better charger is connected. and charging only gets faster depending on the device battery temperature. only works best in a cooler place. as stated above you must keep and handle with care. but i will say no worries here as i am using fast charge kernels on my xperia sp. nothing has happened till now. and i keep my device in an aerated place while charging. :good:
Haaa is see thx u
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Heat is what damages the battery, not how fast it charges. But faster charging means more heat. Just make sure it doesn't get too hot. If it gets too hot, the phone should shut it down anyway. I use a 1.8 or 2 amp charger on my phones all the time and I've never had a problem with it getting too hot. But be careful if you're using the phone while it's charging, especially watching video or playing a game or downloading something big, because this can make the phone very hot very quickly. Again though, if it gets too hot, your phone will shut down to protect itself.
New batteries are pretty cheap anyway.
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No it never get hot but what about the quality of battery. Is it equal to 2.30 hour charge? I feel that it drop down more quickly than before