Question about backing up using titanium backup

Question about backing up using titanium backup - Verizon HTC One (M8)

When I'm backing everything up in titanium backup do I need to back up the things that are in red color. Like the face unlock,Google text to speak,Google search etc.

Noo. Just got the check on the upper right I think it is and got run next to backup ask user apps. It's lie the third one down. Red is usually system apps, and if restored on different Roms it could cause issues

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[APP] Titanium Backup

If I do a wipe and change roms would do the pro version of titanium backup put all my apps and settings back exactly how they were with the new rom?

djsaad1 said:
If I do a wipe and change roms would do the pro version of titanium backup put all my apps and settings back exactly how they were with the new rom?
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If you're switching different roms (like Cyanogen to Sense), it'd probably mess stuff up quite a bit

would be going from cyanogen to enomther. I would like to try enomther out but really not in the mood to install everything again and put all my settings back in, especially if I end up going back to cyanogen again.

I'm not sure if this is how it works, but everytime I flash I backup the app and data of helixlauncher and when I restore it my icons are all in the right place. You obviously have to reinstall all your applications first before the icons work, but it worked, to my surprise.

From my experience with the pro version, which is much better than the free, and worth it,
Any of the stuff in red, i dont back up. I just backup all my actual apps I know i use on my phone, with data.
I use mybackupPro, to restore all my call logs and texts, yadda yadda, but titanium backup for apps+data
I haven't found anything to successfuly restore my screens and widgets without error or issues, but whatever. atleast the widgets data is still stores [atleast with Pure calenders and such]
I wish there was some sort of better guide though, like exactly which system settings NOT to back up, that would be awesome.

I too would like to see it all spelled out. Especially for noob such as myself.
I've been using mybackupPro for exactly the same reason, together with Titanium. But my widgets and shorcuts aren't restored. And I use More Icons Pro which is more of a pain to redo after every flash or ROM change.

Ok Guys. Here is an easy report on Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup will backup all of your installed applications(this can include system apps), settings, Launcher Icon Layout, Wifi, sms/calllog etc..
It WILL work between at least android 2.1 roms(Cyan, Enom etc,,). I have not tried going over to a desire ROM
PRO is VERY much worth it. It allows you batch install instead of clicking for every app. Easily worth 4 or 6 bux.
Now what you do.
Install and possibly donate. U use paypal and get an email with the "pro" key soon after.
-Click backup/restore
-Click menu(phone button), batch
-Click Backup All user apps.
-Let it run, then go back.
-Individually backup all items highlighted in green. This will be bookmarks, call log, calendar, LAUNCHER, wifi, stuff like that.
-SKIP RED ONES. These are system apps and u basically are overwriting your new ROM.
Ok now you are backed up in your SD card in folder Titanium backup.
You can now, Wipe, install a rom, download titanium from market, click backup/restore, Click batch. Then click restore all apps and Data.
Restart your Phone.
And your back in business. EZ PZ. Your settings, Wifi, Icon layout, etc. will be installed. The only thing I have to adjust is my wallpaper/widgets usually.
All in all you can do a full ROM from wipe swap in about 15 minutes. I always Wipe because its so easy, why not.
Also. This works with Apps2sd as well. It can go from non-apps2sd to apps2sd, or apps2sd to non-apps2sd. Basically it doesnt care...

seanowns said:
Ok Guys. Here is an easy report on Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup will backup all of your installed applications(this can include system apps), settings, Launcher Icon Layout, Wifi, sms/calllog etc..
It WILL work between at least android 2.1 roms(Cyan, Enom etc,,). I have not tried going over to a desire ROM
PRO is VERY much worth it. It allows you batch install instead of clicking for every app. Easily worth 4 or 6 bux.
Now what you do.
Install and possibly donate. U use paypal and get an email with the "pro" key soon after.
-Click backup/restore
-Click menu(phone button), batch
-Click Backup All user apps.
-Let it run, then go back.
-Individually backup all items highlighted in green. This will be bookmarks, call log, calendar, LAUNCHER, wifi, stuff like that.
-SKIP RED ONES. These are system apps and u basically are overwriting your new ROM.
Ok now you are backed up in your SD card in folder Titanium backup.
You can now, Wipe, install a rom, download titanium from market, click backup/restore, Click batch. Then click restore all apps and Data.
Restart your Phone.
And your back in business. EZ PZ. Your settings, Wifi, Icon layout, etc. will be installed. The only thing I have to adjust is my wallpaper/widgets usually.
All in all you can do a full ROM from wipe swap in about 15 minutes. I always Wipe because its so easy, why not.
Also. This works with Apps2sd as well. It can go from non-apps2sd to apps2sd, or apps2sd to non-apps2sd. Basically it doesnt care...
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Great write-up. I think a lot of us needed this...

is Titanium regarded as a better backup solution than Nandroid? or are they comparable?
thnx!

Does the author of titanium post here?
Would like to share some feedback.
MI_canuck said:
is Titanium regarded as a better backup solution than Nandroid? or are they comparable?
thnx!
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Different types of backups.

MI_canuck said:
is Titanium regarded as a better backup solution than Nandroid? or are they comparable?
thnx!
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Nandroid will back up your entire ROM, all apps, and all settings in one package. Titanium just baks up the apps that you use, so if you switch ROMs or wipe, it's a very fast and easy process to reinstate them.
Both are pretty mandatory. Show some love and get the donate version. Good devs shouldn't have to eat Ramen Noodles. Except by choice.

seanowns said:
It WILL work between at least android 2.1 roms(Cyan, Enom etc,,). I have not tried going over to a desire ROM
PRO is VERY much worth it. It allows you batch install instead of clicking for every app. Easily worth 4 or 6 bux.
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Just a note: The free version does batch back-up and restore, but no verify or market doctor. This may be a recent change to the free, as I just started using titanium when I got my Nexus.
Jumped to the MoDaCo Desire Rom for a few, and reinstalled only the apps without any system data, worked just fine. I can see a potential issue though doing backups from Desire of anything requiring Sense, and trying to restore on a non-Sense ROM.

Daswolven said:
Just a note: The free version does batch back-up and restore, but no verify or market doctor. This may be a recent change to the free, as I just started using titanium when I got my Nexus.
Jumped to the MoDaCo Desire Rom for a few, and reinstalled only the apps without any system data, worked just fine. I can see a potential issue though doing backups from Desire of anything requiring Sense, and trying to restore on a non-Sense ROM.
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This is still accurate today. I might add the backup verifier in the free version, but it's hard as that requires Hypershell.
Yes indeed, when backing up/restoring across HTC and Google ROMs (or generally speaking: between wildly different ROMs), it is advised to restore the system items with caution, and generally only the system items you need. There's no such problem with user apps & data, which will *always* work across ROMs.

Ahh. Good to know about the Red system items. It means I can be even more lazy and just back up everything.
Adding an official guide is a good idea. I had these same questions a few months ago and actually held of trying it for a week.

@ joel.bourquard
Welcome
Thanks for stopping by...BTW..i love your app...full version
I didnt know about the green and red labeled items lol
Have to look whether there is a feature to select all *green* or similar to that.
Or if Green items in list can be added to a batch execution, if it is, im not understanding the wording of the batch files

Ideas for Titanium Improvement
joel.bourquard said:
This is still accurate today. I might add the backup verifier in the free version, but it's hard as that requires Hypershell.
Yes indeed, when backing up/restoring across HTC and Google ROMs (or generally speaking: between wildly different ROMs), it is advised to restore the system items with caution, and generally only the system items you need. There's no such problem with user apps & data, which will *always* work across ROMs.
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I know I'm asking a ton here, but it's something to think about implementing. What would be really useful is to have one (or more if you have multiple backup copies selected) main "Market/User batch" backup restore. If multiple backups are enabled, a name for each set would be cool.
The really useful part would allow several system app/settings entries and allow unique naming by user. One could have say a Cm, a Desire and Enomther system folders, and could back up and restore to each as need be. That way if someone's testing several ROM's there's no confusion about which system app/setting came from which build. That way you're not restoring Enomther's Spare Parts app to a Desire build.
I don't know if this is possible either (I know nandroid does this, but I'm stretching for in house), but a feature where if you are unsure about a system app/data/setting restoration, allow a onetime snapshot pre-restore, so if things do not work out, an undo of last action is possible. Or, if you implement the ideas in the latter paragraph, that responsibility could be left to the user, since they could save the fresh target and data in it's new folder before messing with it.
I'm sure this is all possible now by moving and renaming the backups on sdcard, but it would be much cleaner from within Titanium's ui.
Great app...happy donator here, and it has been a staple in many tutorials I have scattered around the forums. Thank you, and keep up the good work!

Nice Idea!!
And TitBackup is absolutely worth the money!!! (Happy ProVersion User)

rori1 said:
Nice Idea!!
And TitBackup is absolutely worth the money!!! (Happy ProVersion User)
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Not exactly the best abbreviation...

So, can I backup the MUSIC playlists? I tried backing up the Music (in ReD) in hopes that it would contain the playlist...but when I restored...it didn't have the playlist.

Titanian back up

Am I right in saying , the apps and green files are ok to back up and restore of using new rims safely? And red on the lost should be left alone?
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you can back up anything you want, red or green.

I'm worried about backing up old Rom system files to a new Rom...
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I would recommend to backup only user app+data. You are flashing new ROM, so you want it new However in case you are switching to a very similar or just minor version upgrade of your current ROM, it may be safe to backup and then restore some system settings. In case you are switching, for example, from Sense to AOSP or from GB to ICS - you can backup only user apps.
As a rule of thumb, I would suggest: backup user apps+data only, unless you definitely know why you want to backup something else.
P.S. When I say backup I mean backup and restore. Of course you can backup everything you want, it does not matter and its safe. What you are restoring matters.

Thanx , what about the 'green' files, these seem to be things like contacts, WiFi settings,calander..... These are things I'd like to use in a restore for a new Rom that iv had to superwipe. I like the idea of backing up my home screen how I like it.
Should have said before I'm using Mike's 6.1.1 at the mo.and looking at 6.2.x
At the moment iv backed up all green in the list and all apps.....
Sent from my idonkey eater

Green things are ok to restore. Even some white things still ok to restore. But red things shouldn't be restored. Btw. if you want to backup sms, you will have to get another app, it always fails to backup sms for me.

Well I backed up all green and selected back ups for apps I knew did not come with the new Rom ,deleted the others. Installed new Rom ,down loaded titanium off market, and restored, ......
Every thing worked perfectly, all apps back all contacts , emails and all, even home screen widgets placement there of and background back to how I had it. Also all messages were back aswell !
Amazing app, thank you all for your help.
Sent from my idonkey eater

CuttyCZ said:
Green things are ok to restore. Even some white things still ok to restore. But red things shouldn't be restored. Btw. if you want to backup sms, you will have to get another app, it always fails to backup sms for me.
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Actually, I was able to backup my SMS using TiBackup. It's the [SMS/MMS/APN...] one.
I was on Revolution HD 6.1.1, backed up my SMS and then flashed to Virtuous v3.0. Installed TiBackup and was able to restore my SMS's in about 20 seconds or so.
Previously I was on an iPhone, I ported over my msgs to an Android and then used SMS Backup & Restore to convert the xml file to the Android SMS database. However due to the huge amounts of txt msgs, it took a few hours. So i wanted to see if TiBackup would speed up the process and indeed it did. Though it could also be because Revolution HD and Virtuous use the same SMS db version.

[Q] How do I modify my backup and restore manifest?

Hi xda,
Though my thread title may be a little vague and might supposedly be better asked on google or android per se, just patiently read along as I try to explain my dilemma in more detail.
For ICS users, we all know the convenience of the "backup & restore" feature. Everything from wifi passwords, contacts, and installed apps will be magically restored when you install a new firmware on your phone with a full data wipe. And for us flash junkies, that indeed is really convenient.
But even though I have come to love such feature, I've noticed a few quirks as I was using it over time. The backup manifest or shall I say, the list of backed up data gets cluttered as you continue to backup data over time. This leading to a point where my backup data is now so messed up, whenever it auto restores once again, I see previously uninstalled apps back again and duplicate contact entries. So messed up, that I've decided to stop using this much loved feature and just manually backup my contacts, and re-install apps.
So, I am looking for some solution that I might be somehow able to manually edit that current backed up list (over at google or wherever it's stored), and update which will be restored if ever I flash my phone again. Or wipe that list clean and overwrite it with my current phone state.
Sorry for the long post but I've done my googling and forum searching beforehand only to no avail.

You can forgo that feature entirely and use titanium backup instead, for backing up your personal app data...
Titanium acts a little twitchy when restoring system apps and data across roms with different bases...
Your best bet would be to backup your downloaded apps with titanium, backup contacts and msgs (and call logs) from other market apps (I use go backup)...
For bluetooth and wifi access points, I haven't found anything that is truly cross compatible among roms...so better of you just write it down somewhere and refer that later...
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Titanium Backup when using a Nightlies ROM

I'm fairly new to Ti and have a question. I'd like to backup my downloaded apps and user data like text messages and email settings. I don't need much more than that. I saw a tutorial that said to backup apps, user and system data. That doesn't seem right if I'm using a custom ROM.
What do you guys recommend?

t0adman said:
I'm fairly new to Ti and have a question. I'd like to backup my downloaded apps and user data like text messages and email settings. I don't need much more than that. I saw a tutorial that said to backup apps, user and system data. That doesn't seem right if I'm using a custom ROM.
What do you guys recommend?
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With titanium backup, you can backup all your apps and the data and then when you go to a different rom or newer build tell it to rebackup only app s that have been updated or contain new data. Text messages can be backed up in it as well and its super simple to backup and restore them (depending on how many messages you, more messages longer it takes). As far as email settings ive never done that so i can't comment on that part.
The reason for this is that if you flash a new rom and something goes wrong you can still have that data to just simply restore. The reason i use titanium backup is because its a thousand times faster to restore all your apps with that then redownload them all.
Word of advise, NEVER restore system data, that could potentially cause issues in the future, restoring apps and app data for games and such should be fine though
But as far as nightlies go, a full wipe shouldn't be required everytime a new one comes out, unless stated otherwise, or for myself i don't like to flash more than 3 or 4 nightlies on top of eachother so by the 4th or 5th one i do a fresh install, in which i backup apps and messages and restore them.
I hope that helps you understand a little better

Yes, definitely! Thank you. I'm seeing the option to backup all user apps, all system data, a combo of both, and several other scenarios. Last time I backed up just user apps and when I restored them I lost all my text messages. Is there a setting I need to select?

t0adman said:
Yes, definitely! Thank you. I'm seeing the option to backup all user apps, all system data, a combo of both, and several other scenarios. Last time I backed up just user apps and when I restored them I lost all my text messages. Is there a setting I need to select?
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i can't remember if you need the pro version or not but for text messages and call logs, when you first enter the app hit the menu button and it should be under "backup data to xml" you'll click that and then choose what data you want to backup. From there you can either backup to your sd card, or i believe dropbox/google drive, but i always put it on the sdcard since its not a very big file

Neverendingxsin said:
i can't remember if you need the pro version or not but for text messages and call logs, when you first enter the app hit the menu button and it should be under "backup data to xml" you'll click that and then choose what data you want to backup. From there you can either backup to your sd card, or i believe dropbox/google drive, but i always put it on the sdcard since its not a very big file
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nonono, there's an easier way to do what he wants.
@ OP, choose the option to backup all user apps... run it... there's one backup. Then, go into backup system apps, de-select all, then scroll through and find Call Log and Messages and check those... run the backup of those two items. Then you'll have all your user apps + texts and call logs.
Now you can do a factory wipe, run TiBu and restore ALL backups that you have (you only have user apps and the two items from system) and you will have everything except various system settings back as they were.

You can use filters to make it even easier. Make a new filter, only add the apps you want backed up (downloaded apps and the call log). Then all you have to do is backup and restore one list.
You can get fancy with it too. I have 3 filters. One for user apps I won't need to restore data to, one for use apps I want to be able to restore data to, and one for bloat that always gets bulk uninstalled immediately (I also use this list to test if system apps are removable by backing them up, uninstalling them, then if no problems arise I delete the back up). When ever I do a full wipe I just restore the first list (apps only), restore the second list (apps + data), and bulk uninstall everything on the third list. Takes all of 5 minutes and it's like I never wiped at all.
That said, I just dirty flash nightlies. Until I have a problem, there's no reason to do a full wipe.

Sycobob said:
You can use filters to make it even easier. Make a new filter, only add the apps you want backed up (downloaded apps and the call log). Then all you have to do is backup and restore one list.
You can get fancy with it too. I have 3 filters. One for user apps I won't need to restore data to, one for use apps I want to be able to restore data to, and one for bloat that always gets bulk uninstalled immediately (I also use this list to test if system apps are removable by backing them up, uninstalling them, then if no problems arise I delete the back up). When ever I do a full wipe I just restore the first list (apps only), restore the second list (apps + data), and bulk uninstall everything on the third list. Takes all of 5 minutes and it's like I never wiped at all.
That said, I just dirty flash nightlies. Until I have a problem, there's no reason to do a full wipe.
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Oh Yeh, I forgot about the filters, I haven't messed with them much at all.

Go backup is also quite good as an alternative. Less customization but very simple to use
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Where Does Titanium Backup Backup To??

On my TMobile G2x I backed up all my downloaded apps (21 of them). The backup was successful. But in the Batch>Restore I see nowhere where there are 21 apps to restore.. Were the heck does Titanium Backup back these up to? I want them together so I can restore all at once if I do a Factory Data Reset.
James

It normally backs things up to a folder in your sd card called "titaniumbackup".... I think..
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terris98 said:
It normally backs things up to a folder in your sd card called "titaniumbackup".... I think..
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Internal SD Card?
I do see a folder called titaniumbackup.
I'm want to remove them and back up my 20 downloaded apps.

JamesJoey said:
On my TMobile G2x I backed up all my downloaded apps (21 of them). The backup was successful. But in the Batch>Restore I see nowhere where there are 21 apps to restore.. Were the heck does Titanium Backup back these up to? I want them together so I can restore all at once if I do a Factory Data Reset.
James
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U can't restore from its location (they have it backed up as some files that can be read by titanium backup only)
Just install titanium backup from play store after you do the data reset. Then go to the app and restore
Ps - the folder must be on external SD card. As wiping data is gonna wipe internal memory too and u ll lose the backup.

Titaniumbackup folder in internal sd folder or you choose it from settings. You cant restore them manually because as somebody said above they are archived in someway only titanium backup reads them.

I'm not trying to restore them manually.
My goal is to be able to go into Titanium and be able to see my backed up downloaded apps, and only my backed up downloaded apps. I did back them up, there are 20 of them. But, when I go into Batch>Restore I see no area where there are only 20 apps. When I tap run I'm faced with all the other system apps, that I backed up, and I need to uncheck the ones I don't want to.
I find this aspect of Titanium Backup very confusing.
It's like trying to shoot pool with a rope.
James

You need to set filter on Backup/Restore tab to show only User applications. Tap on "Click to edit filters" label.

Have no idea what's wrong with Titanium, now. When I go into Batch it showing 0 for every category. Seems Titanium has no idea I have any apps?? If I filter for all I get the list of my apps but there's a triangle icon with an exclamation on it on every app, system and user.
I don't get it.

Triangle means that there are no backups yet for selected apps

Something was wrong with Titanium Backup.
I uninstalled it and reinstalled it now it's and no it's finding the backups that I had already made. Including my 21 downloaded apps that I backed up. They show in the restore, now, in the User aps.
All is well,
James

Remember you will always have them in google play store (my apps section) assuming they were downloaded from google play store.
I always/frequently send my backups to cloud storage.. for any unforeseen circumstances I lose my apps, then I can at anytime grab them from my cloud..
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I spoke too soon.
I did a factory data reset and installed Titanium Backup. Can't find any of my backups I did just prior to don't the reset.
Is there any other backup out there that works???

Roots said:
Remember you will always have them in google play store (my apps section) assuming they were downloaded from google play store.
I always/frequently send my backups to cloud storage.. for any unforeseen circumstances I lose my apps, then I can at anytime grab them from my cloud..
This is what I'm trying to avoid. I'm trying to restore these apps without having to depend upon Google or Cloud. I have turned off syncing with Google. I guess I'm a bit paranoid.
Any way. I uninstalled and reinstalled Titanium Backup and got my apps restored. Problem is it restored some apps I no longer use but must have backed them up in the past.
Will these User backups be in the TitaniumBackup folder? If so, and I delete all the backups there and do another users app backup this eill remove the apps I don't I\use and hence they wont be restored??
These might seem like dumb questions but I'm new to this stuff.
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I still don't get it!
In the Backup section of Batch... one item is "Backup all user apps" (17 user apps)
I then ran it successfully.
Now, shouldn't there be an item in the Restore section "Restore all user apps" with a total of 17 apps??
There is none.
Now, I realize I'm new to this stuff but Can anyone suggest another backup app. 'cause I believe Titanium Backup sucks.
And apparently one here has any solutions.

You're correct in stating that user apps should also show in the restore section..
In the main overview screen do all user apps show.? And do they have yellow icon next to them showing they have been backed up..
If you have pro version with unlock key, email dev/support with your problem..
To be honest with you and most xda users will agree that TB is one there most stable, reliable & one of the most needed root app..
Try using (ROM Toolbox pro/free) as good as if not better, you'll love the user interface ..
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All my user apps show up. 2 of them have a yellow smiley face next to them. All the other have green and yellow icon with what I believe to be a face. I have backed up all my user apps at least twice today hoping to see these in the restore area. I checked again and now they're there! The user apps are now showing up ion the Restore. Why they weren't there all day and all of a sudden pop up I don't know. It's not that I needed a reboot 'cause I did that right after backing up.
Maybe I should scan my phone for a virus.
I'm sorry 'bout putting the product down, it's just very frustrating. It's not the product it's me. Some of this stuff is over my head.
I'll check out your suggestion for the backup app.
I did, however find a couple of apps that seem pretty good:
App Backup and Restore
App Quarantine to freeze apps.
I have no desire to flash a new rom (if that' the proper term)
I simply want it easy to backup and restore my user apps and the freeze some apps I don't use.

Freezing can be done very easily with TB..
But once you get to good with this app, trust me it will be yet most valuable need app for you
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Roots said:
Freezing can be done very easily with TB..
But once you get to good with this app, trust me it will be yet most valuable need app for you
Yes I believe your right.
I need to work with it more.
James
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I am kinda having this problem
I have a similiar problem. But with mine is I changed the ext back up folder to a specific one, but for whatever reason titanium saves back ups to the default folder where i have other back ups.
but when i look at my apps itll say 0 bakups because the new folder i chose is empty. even though it saved them in the old folder for whatever reason.
When i switch it back to the default folder then itll recognize that i have the new backups. even though i didnt tell it to save them there.

This is what I wanted to know:
Internal storage\storage\emulated\legacy\TitaniumBackup
Is where app backups are saved.

Database Info

welcome