If I do a wipe and change roms would do the pro version of titanium backup put all my apps and settings back exactly how they were with the new rom?
djsaad1 said:
If I do a wipe and change roms would do the pro version of titanium backup put all my apps and settings back exactly how they were with the new rom?
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If you're switching different roms (like Cyanogen to Sense), it'd probably mess stuff up quite a bit
would be going from cyanogen to enomther. I would like to try enomther out but really not in the mood to install everything again and put all my settings back in, especially if I end up going back to cyanogen again.
I'm not sure if this is how it works, but everytime I flash I backup the app and data of helixlauncher and when I restore it my icons are all in the right place. You obviously have to reinstall all your applications first before the icons work, but it worked, to my surprise.
From my experience with the pro version, which is much better than the free, and worth it,
Any of the stuff in red, i dont back up. I just backup all my actual apps I know i use on my phone, with data.
I use mybackupPro, to restore all my call logs and texts, yadda yadda, but titanium backup for apps+data
I haven't found anything to successfuly restore my screens and widgets without error or issues, but whatever. atleast the widgets data is still stores [atleast with Pure calenders and such]
I wish there was some sort of better guide though, like exactly which system settings NOT to back up, that would be awesome.
I too would like to see it all spelled out. Especially for noob such as myself.
I've been using mybackupPro for exactly the same reason, together with Titanium. But my widgets and shorcuts aren't restored. And I use More Icons Pro which is more of a pain to redo after every flash or ROM change.
Ok Guys. Here is an easy report on Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup will backup all of your installed applications(this can include system apps), settings, Launcher Icon Layout, Wifi, sms/calllog etc..
It WILL work between at least android 2.1 roms(Cyan, Enom etc,,). I have not tried going over to a desire ROM
PRO is VERY much worth it. It allows you batch install instead of clicking for every app. Easily worth 4 or 6 bux.
Now what you do.
Install and possibly donate. U use paypal and get an email with the "pro" key soon after.
-Click backup/restore
-Click menu(phone button), batch
-Click Backup All user apps.
-Let it run, then go back.
-Individually backup all items highlighted in green. This will be bookmarks, call log, calendar, LAUNCHER, wifi, stuff like that.
-SKIP RED ONES. These are system apps and u basically are overwriting your new ROM.
Ok now you are backed up in your SD card in folder Titanium backup.
You can now, Wipe, install a rom, download titanium from market, click backup/restore, Click batch. Then click restore all apps and Data.
Restart your Phone.
And your back in business. EZ PZ. Your settings, Wifi, Icon layout, etc. will be installed. The only thing I have to adjust is my wallpaper/widgets usually.
All in all you can do a full ROM from wipe swap in about 15 minutes. I always Wipe because its so easy, why not.
Also. This works with Apps2sd as well. It can go from non-apps2sd to apps2sd, or apps2sd to non-apps2sd. Basically it doesnt care...
seanowns said:
Ok Guys. Here is an easy report on Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup will backup all of your installed applications(this can include system apps), settings, Launcher Icon Layout, Wifi, sms/calllog etc..
It WILL work between at least android 2.1 roms(Cyan, Enom etc,,). I have not tried going over to a desire ROM
PRO is VERY much worth it. It allows you batch install instead of clicking for every app. Easily worth 4 or 6 bux.
Now what you do.
Install and possibly donate. U use paypal and get an email with the "pro" key soon after.
-Click backup/restore
-Click menu(phone button), batch
-Click Backup All user apps.
-Let it run, then go back.
-Individually backup all items highlighted in green. This will be bookmarks, call log, calendar, LAUNCHER, wifi, stuff like that.
-SKIP RED ONES. These are system apps and u basically are overwriting your new ROM.
Ok now you are backed up in your SD card in folder Titanium backup.
You can now, Wipe, install a rom, download titanium from market, click backup/restore, Click batch. Then click restore all apps and Data.
Restart your Phone.
And your back in business. EZ PZ. Your settings, Wifi, Icon layout, etc. will be installed. The only thing I have to adjust is my wallpaper/widgets usually.
All in all you can do a full ROM from wipe swap in about 15 minutes. I always Wipe because its so easy, why not.
Also. This works with Apps2sd as well. It can go from non-apps2sd to apps2sd, or apps2sd to non-apps2sd. Basically it doesnt care...
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Great write-up. I think a lot of us needed this...
is Titanium regarded as a better backup solution than Nandroid? or are they comparable?
thnx!
Does the author of titanium post here?
Would like to share some feedback.
MI_canuck said:
is Titanium regarded as a better backup solution than Nandroid? or are they comparable?
thnx!
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Different types of backups.
MI_canuck said:
is Titanium regarded as a better backup solution than Nandroid? or are they comparable?
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Nandroid will back up your entire ROM, all apps, and all settings in one package. Titanium just baks up the apps that you use, so if you switch ROMs or wipe, it's a very fast and easy process to reinstate them.
Both are pretty mandatory. Show some love and get the donate version. Good devs shouldn't have to eat Ramen Noodles. Except by choice.
seanowns said:
It WILL work between at least android 2.1 roms(Cyan, Enom etc,,). I have not tried going over to a desire ROM
PRO is VERY much worth it. It allows you batch install instead of clicking for every app. Easily worth 4 or 6 bux.
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Just a note: The free version does batch back-up and restore, but no verify or market doctor. This may be a recent change to the free, as I just started using titanium when I got my Nexus.
Jumped to the MoDaCo Desire Rom for a few, and reinstalled only the apps without any system data, worked just fine. I can see a potential issue though doing backups from Desire of anything requiring Sense, and trying to restore on a non-Sense ROM.
seanowns said:
Ok Guys. Here is an easy report on Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup will backup all of your installed applications(this can include system apps), settings, Launcher Icon Layout, Wifi, sms/calllog etc..
It WILL work between at least android 2.1 roms(Cyan, Enom etc,,). I have not tried going over to a desire ROM
PRO is VERY much worth it. It allows you batch install instead of clicking for every app. Easily worth 4 or 6 bux.
Now what you do.
Install and possibly donate. U use paypal and get an email with the "pro" key soon after.
-Click backup/restore
-Click menu(phone button), batch
-Click Backup All user apps.
-Let it run, then go back.
-Individually backup all items highlighted in green. This will be bookmarks, call log, calendar, LAUNCHER, wifi, stuff like that.
-SKIP RED ONES. These are system apps and u basically are overwriting your new ROM.
Ok now you are backed up in your SD card in folder Titanium backup.
You can now, Wipe, install a rom, download titanium from market, click backup/restore, Click batch. Then click restore all apps and Data.
Restart your Phone.
And your back in business. EZ PZ. Your settings, Wifi, Icon layout, etc. will be installed. The only thing I have to adjust is my wallpaper/widgets usually.
All in all you can do a full ROM from wipe swap in about 15 minutes. I always Wipe because its so easy, why not.
Also. This works with Apps2sd as well. It can go from non-apps2sd to apps2sd, or apps2sd to non-apps2sd. Basically it doesnt care...
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Hi seanowns,
Many thanks for this mini-guide. I'll definitely add something like this to my web page
Just one thing: the reason why we usually skip the "red" system items is not because Titanium Backup would overwrite these system apps (it doesn't) but rather because they are items which usually don't contain any interesting data.
For system apps: Titanium Backup currently never backs up (nor restores) the app itself. It only touches the system data.
Daswolven said:
Just a note: The free version does batch back-up and restore, but no verify or market doctor. This may be a recent change to the free, as I just started using titanium when I got my Nexus.
Jumped to the MoDaCo Desire Rom for a few, and reinstalled only the apps without any system data, worked just fine. I can see a potential issue though doing backups from Desire of anything requiring Sense, and trying to restore on a non-Sense ROM.
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This is still accurate today. I might add the backup verifier in the free version, but it's hard as that requires Hypershell.
Yes indeed, when backing up/restoring across HTC and Google ROMs (or generally speaking: between wildly different ROMs), it is advised to restore the system items with caution, and generally only the system items you need. There's no such problem with user apps & data, which will *always* work across ROMs.
Ahh. Good to know about the Red system items. It means I can be even more lazy and just back up everything.
Adding an official guide is a good idea. I had these same questions a few months ago and actually held of trying it for a week.
@ joel.bourquard
Welcome
Thanks for stopping by...BTW..i love your app...full version
I didnt know about the green and red labeled items lol
Have to look whether there is a feature to select all *green* or similar to that.
Or if Green items in list can be added to a batch execution, if it is, im not understanding the wording of the batch files
Ideas for Titanium Improvement
joel.bourquard said:
This is still accurate today. I might add the backup verifier in the free version, but it's hard as that requires Hypershell.
Yes indeed, when backing up/restoring across HTC and Google ROMs (or generally speaking: between wildly different ROMs), it is advised to restore the system items with caution, and generally only the system items you need. There's no such problem with user apps & data, which will *always* work across ROMs.
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I know I'm asking a ton here, but it's something to think about implementing. What would be really useful is to have one (or more if you have multiple backup copies selected) main "Market/User batch" backup restore. If multiple backups are enabled, a name for each set would be cool.
The really useful part would allow several system app/settings entries and allow unique naming by user. One could have say a Cm, a Desire and Enomther system folders, and could back up and restore to each as need be. That way if someone's testing several ROM's there's no confusion about which system app/setting came from which build. That way you're not restoring Enomther's Spare Parts app to a Desire build.
I don't know if this is possible either (I know nandroid does this, but I'm stretching for in house), but a feature where if you are unsure about a system app/data/setting restoration, allow a onetime snapshot pre-restore, so if things do not work out, an undo of last action is possible. Or, if you implement the ideas in the latter paragraph, that responsibility could be left to the user, since they could save the fresh target and data in it's new folder before messing with it.
I'm sure this is all possible now by moving and renaming the backups on sdcard, but it would be much cleaner from within Titanium's ui.
Great app...happy donator here, and it has been a staple in many tutorials I have scattered around the forums. Thank you, and keep up the good work!
Nice Idea!!
And TitBackup is absolutely worth the money!!! (Happy ProVersion User)
rori1 said:
Nice Idea!!
And TitBackup is absolutely worth the money!!! (Happy ProVersion User)
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Not exactly the best abbreviation...
So, can I backup the MUSIC playlists? I tried backing up the Music (in ReD) in hopes that it would contain the playlist...but when I restored...it didn't have the playlist.
I'm fairly new to Ti and have a question. I'd like to backup my downloaded apps and user data like text messages and email settings. I don't need much more than that. I saw a tutorial that said to backup apps, user and system data. That doesn't seem right if I'm using a custom ROM.
What do you guys recommend?
t0adman said:
I'm fairly new to Ti and have a question. I'd like to backup my downloaded apps and user data like text messages and email settings. I don't need much more than that. I saw a tutorial that said to backup apps, user and system data. That doesn't seem right if I'm using a custom ROM.
What do you guys recommend?
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With titanium backup, you can backup all your apps and the data and then when you go to a different rom or newer build tell it to rebackup only app s that have been updated or contain new data. Text messages can be backed up in it as well and its super simple to backup and restore them (depending on how many messages you, more messages longer it takes). As far as email settings ive never done that so i can't comment on that part.
The reason for this is that if you flash a new rom and something goes wrong you can still have that data to just simply restore. The reason i use titanium backup is because its a thousand times faster to restore all your apps with that then redownload them all.
Word of advise, NEVER restore system data, that could potentially cause issues in the future, restoring apps and app data for games and such should be fine though
But as far as nightlies go, a full wipe shouldn't be required everytime a new one comes out, unless stated otherwise, or for myself i don't like to flash more than 3 or 4 nightlies on top of eachother so by the 4th or 5th one i do a fresh install, in which i backup apps and messages and restore them.
I hope that helps you understand a little better
Yes, definitely! Thank you. I'm seeing the option to backup all user apps, all system data, a combo of both, and several other scenarios. Last time I backed up just user apps and when I restored them I lost all my text messages. Is there a setting I need to select?
t0adman said:
Yes, definitely! Thank you. I'm seeing the option to backup all user apps, all system data, a combo of both, and several other scenarios. Last time I backed up just user apps and when I restored them I lost all my text messages. Is there a setting I need to select?
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i can't remember if you need the pro version or not but for text messages and call logs, when you first enter the app hit the menu button and it should be under "backup data to xml" you'll click that and then choose what data you want to backup. From there you can either backup to your sd card, or i believe dropbox/google drive, but i always put it on the sdcard since its not a very big file
Neverendingxsin said:
i can't remember if you need the pro version or not but for text messages and call logs, when you first enter the app hit the menu button and it should be under "backup data to xml" you'll click that and then choose what data you want to backup. From there you can either backup to your sd card, or i believe dropbox/google drive, but i always put it on the sdcard since its not a very big file
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nonono, there's an easier way to do what he wants.
@ OP, choose the option to backup all user apps... run it... there's one backup. Then, go into backup system apps, de-select all, then scroll through and find Call Log and Messages and check those... run the backup of those two items. Then you'll have all your user apps + texts and call logs.
Now you can do a factory wipe, run TiBu and restore ALL backups that you have (you only have user apps and the two items from system) and you will have everything except various system settings back as they were.
You can use filters to make it even easier. Make a new filter, only add the apps you want backed up (downloaded apps and the call log). Then all you have to do is backup and restore one list.
You can get fancy with it too. I have 3 filters. One for user apps I won't need to restore data to, one for use apps I want to be able to restore data to, and one for bloat that always gets bulk uninstalled immediately (I also use this list to test if system apps are removable by backing them up, uninstalling them, then if no problems arise I delete the back up). When ever I do a full wipe I just restore the first list (apps only), restore the second list (apps + data), and bulk uninstall everything on the third list. Takes all of 5 minutes and it's like I never wiped at all.
That said, I just dirty flash nightlies. Until I have a problem, there's no reason to do a full wipe.
Sycobob said:
You can use filters to make it even easier. Make a new filter, only add the apps you want backed up (downloaded apps and the call log). Then all you have to do is backup and restore one list.
You can get fancy with it too. I have 3 filters. One for user apps I won't need to restore data to, one for use apps I want to be able to restore data to, and one for bloat that always gets bulk uninstalled immediately (I also use this list to test if system apps are removable by backing them up, uninstalling them, then if no problems arise I delete the back up). When ever I do a full wipe I just restore the first list (apps only), restore the second list (apps + data), and bulk uninstall everything on the third list. Takes all of 5 minutes and it's like I never wiped at all.
That said, I just dirty flash nightlies. Until I have a problem, there's no reason to do a full wipe.
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Oh Yeh, I forgot about the filters, I haven't messed with them much at all.
Go backup is also quite good as an alternative. Less customization but very simple to use
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Hello, i flashed ROMs several times on my HTC Desire S, restoring any data, apps and settings with Titanium Backup without any problem (I've got the Free Version). This time, after flashing the latest Viper Saga ROM, I was able to restore the apps, the photos and most of my stuff, but not most of my personalized settings (such as the widgets disposition on the screen, folders etc.) and my messages (SMS). I can see all the backups inside Titanium Backup. Plus I get an error after turning on the phone ( something like "wallpaper lock app closed after anomaly") What can I do? Especially for the messages and for avoiding this in the future?
THANKS
el_d4rio said:
Hello, i flashed ROMs several times on my HTC Desire S, restoring any data, apps and settings with Titanium Backup without any problem (I've got the Free Version). This time, after flashing the latest Viper Saga ROM, I was able to restore the apps, the photos and most of my stuff, but not most of my personalized settings (such as the widgets disposition on the screen, folders etc.) and my messages (SMS). I can see all the backups inside Titanium Backup. Plus I get an error after turning on the phone ( something like "wallpaper lock app closed after anomaly") What can I do? Especially for the messages and for avoiding this in the future?
THANKS
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When we speak of viper saga, in messaging app there is an option to back up the messages,
as for titanium and/or restoring settings, data etc: i am of the opinion that it often may be treacherous,
You are injecting items in to the environment that sometimes will not be accepted and/or nicely cooperate
for a number of reasons...
If you have a back up of the flash- the one before most recent rom version
you have just flashed:
Reflash it ( the one before the last)
Make backups of needed items by different means
Settings is probably best to adjust on an existing environment
but that's only my opinion
Thanks i maneged to restore my messages, which was the most important thing... For other settings yeah, i guess they're best to adjust manually after flashing the ROM!
I love to flash new roms and try things out. My question to you, what apps and programs do you use to back up playlists, text messages etc. I have tibu that I use for my apps. I am a landlord and I NEED to save my text messages from a certain tenant....non payment, etc.... I want to flash the new CR8 but I am petrified that I will loose my Texts. I have saved them with tibu as well. How do I restore them once my new rom is up and running?
Thanks in advance
Just to be safe
putney1477 said:
I love to flash new roms and try things out. My question to you, what apps and programs do you use to back up playlists, text messages etc. I have tibu that I use for my apps. I am a landlord and I NEED to save my text messages from a certain tenant....non payment, etc.... I want to flash the new CR8 but I am petrified that I will loose my Texts. I have saved them with tibu as well. How do I restore them once my new rom is up and running?
Thanks in advance
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Titanium backup should work fine. But personally, for text messages - I like my backup pro.
I think when you go to 4.3 Roms though, it creates a sub folder of some sort (someone else might be able to explain this better). But I've gotten around it by backing up - then transfering the Titanium or mybackup folder to the external card before flashing a new rom. Then after flashing the new rom, transfer it back.
There's a pretty simple way to protect yourself either way though. Just make a nandroid. If you can't restore your vital text messages - then just nandroid back. Simple!
Alfyne said:
Titanium backup should work fine. But personally, for text messages - I like my backup pro.
I think when you go to 4.3 Roms though, it creates a sub folder of some sort (someone else might be able to explain this better). But I've gotten around it by backing up - then transfering the Titanium or mybackup folder to the external card before flashing a new rom. Then after flashing the new rom, transfer it back.
There's a pretty simple way to protect yourself either way though. Just make a nandroid. If you can't restore your vital text messages - then just nandroid back. Simple!
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super backup works great for backing up sms and call logs. very simple to use. best of all it's free. I flashed 4 roms last nite and it's like I didn't flash a thing.