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[CMW] Rom may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix?

Im using CMW Recovery 6.0.1.0, when I install a rom and reboot I get this message, "Rom may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix?" I said yes... Does saying yes or no make a difference?
OCD madness.

I was assuming that I don't want the stock kernel with my cm10 so I said no.
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Can someone give me an in dept answer?

ForeverSupra said:
Can someone give me an in dept answer?
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I would like to know also. I still have the stock rom, just rooted and was going to get ready for a new rom when I saw this.

dTardis said:
I would like to know also. I still have the stock rom, just rooted and was going to get ready for a new rom when I saw this.
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This is an outdated thread from before the bootloader was unlocked. Basically, disregard what they are implying because the way flashing roms used to work is "different" than how it is now. Our bootloader was unlocked on August 15th, since that date, when you flash a rom the kernel is flashed as well. It's my understanding that this was not the case when our bootloader was locked prior to August 15th, only a rom was flashed not a kernel. The kernel remained the same throughout all the roms, it was the touchwiz stock kernel. As I said already, this is no longer the case.
Ignore this thread and read DroidStyle's guide in the Development Section if you have any questions regarding the flashing roms process. Also, backup your IMEI.
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^what he said!
and to the op, Forever LS1

loveubuntu said:
I was assuming that I don't want the stock kernel with my cm10 so I said no.
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the recovery is not the kernel
say yes

The question has no relevance when running a custom rom. It's there for reverting back to stock on a stock rom/returning original recovery.
Saying yes or no has zero impact unless your on stock rom.
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Unlocked bootloader

So if i unlock my bootloader will i be able to take the JB OTA when it arrives? If not how do i restore the locked bootloader? Also what if my phone has issues.. Would vzw notice i have this?
Sorry if these r dumb questions. I am not 100% on unlocking it.
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Adam outler specifically stated to not do any ota's after unlocking the bootloader...besides the devs will bring us updates faster than ota anyways. Im not 100% but Adam has a stock bootloader.tar posted in the op of his thread. I believe you would flash that in the bootloader function of odin and that will relock your bootloader...now I am not 100% on this, hopefully others will confirm!

The stock bootloader and firmware flash should do the trick to take updates according to Adam himself in the unlock bootloader post. No guarantee you will ever be able to get it unlocked again though.
Also, CyanogenMod team have already switched to working on the CM10 (jellybean) non-kexec version for Verizon now according to the project status page. I wouldn't take Verizon OTA anyway, don't really want the dumbed down no local search that Apple is forcing on us with their patents.

So I should be able to flash any rom i want now? Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
manaox2 said:
The stock bootloader and firmware flash should do the trick to take updates according to Adam himself in the unlock bootloader post. No guarantee you will ever be able to get it unlocked again though.
Also, CyanogenMod team have already switched to working on the CM10 (jellybean) non-kexec version for Verizon now according to the project status page. I wouldn't take Verizon OTA anyway, don't really want the dumbed down no local search that Apple is forcing on us with their patents.
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llama555 said:
So I should be able to flash any rom i want now? Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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Schaweet said:
First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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I love you
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Schaweet said:
First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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I mean I knew exactly how to do things on my DX I just am not as sure with my S3. What recovery would you recommend?

llama555 said:
I mean I knew exactly how to do things on my DX I just am not as sure with my S3. What recovery would you recommend?
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At this point it's not the recovery but the lack of unlocked bootloader roms (non kexec) for vzws3. I've used rom manager and ez recovery with the s3 with great success.
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voodoomanx said:
At this point it's not the recovery but the lack of unlocked bootloader roms (non kexec) for vzws3. I've used rom manager and ez recovery with the s3 with great success.
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The only big difference between cwm 6 and previous versions is its support for kexec, but otherwise does the same thing and can be used for any of the Roms we already have (from what I understand. I tried finding the original thread i read that on but came up short so if I'm wrong someone please correct me as I don't want to spread false information).
And honestly I'm sure almost every rom will be updated within 24 hours to reflect this if not sooner and development will be full steam ahead! Just beware of an OTA cause you know Verizon is not gonna be happy we broke out of their sphere of influence. You can prolly guarantee this "issue" will be towards the top of their to-do list.
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Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?

asmallchild said:
Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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That's not always the case anymore. I've noticed Rezound users have been forced OTA's (update installs without your explicit approval) which means we very well could see the same as well.
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asmallchild said:
Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.

Sccrluk9 said:
If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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Phew good, I'm on Synergy, I think they've blocked OTAs

Sccrluk9 said:
If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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even if you unlock the bootloader and are worried about OTA's just install clockwork mod or team win. the custom recovery will stop the installation of the files. last line of defense as some phones will download and OTA and install it regardless of what you do (rezound, thunderbolt, etc)

droidstyle said:
besides the devs will bring us updates faster than ota anyways.
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Always, +1. I've never understood the desire to get OTAs afteryou start modding your phone.
llama555 said:
Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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As long as there are still kexec roms out there, you'll still need a kexec recovery to flash them. If you know for sure you won't be using kexec, use whatever you want except for stock. Don't ever flash the stock recovery unless you're mailing it off to Verizon.
drbobmd said:
The only big difference between cwm 6 and previous versions is its support for kexec, but otherwise does the same thing and can be used for any of the Roms we already have (from what I understand.
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That isn't strictly true. CWM 6.x has a couple of nice features that CWM 5.8.x doesn't, like the deduplication technique to save you space when you have multiple backups. You're right though, in that if you're happy with CWM, there's no reason to switch after unlocking.

SFniner415 said:
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Off topic, sorry, but GO NINERS!!!
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lazarus2405 said:
Always, +1. I've never understood the desire to get OTAs afteryou start modding your phone.
As long as there are still kexec roms out there, you'll still need a kexec recovery to flash them. If you know for sure you won't be using kexec, use whatever you want except for stock. Don't ever flash the stock recovery unless you're mailing it off to Verizon.
That isn't strictly true. CWM 6.x has a couple of nice features that CWM 5.8.x doesn't, like the deduplication technique to save you space when you have multiple backups. You're right though, in that if you're happy with CWM, there's no reason to switch after unlocking.
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Good to know thank you
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so what if your rooted and don't wanna
Flash a Rom is there anything, esle to do to stop an ota?
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Hulk0069 said:
so what if your rooted and don't wanna
Flash a Rom is there anything, esle to do to stop an ota?
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My best guess would be to find out what files are responsible for it and see if they are safe to remove via root explorer or something.
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Sccrluk9 said:
If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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The OTA's also fail once they boot into recovery if the stock recovery isn't there. So it's not likely you'll get a forced OTA that works.

Brand New Warranty replacement S3 4.3 - Am I screwed?

So my last s3 stopped working and I got a new one sent via my extended warranty. Previously I had an unlocked bootloader and root running gummy 4.4 which was awesome! My new phone came stock with 4.3 touchwiz which I am reading might be bad news. So here are my questions:
1) Is there really no way to unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
2) What are my alternatives to installing custom roms?
3) Is safestrap a stable/safe option even though its in beta?
4) Can safestrap be reversed if a method for unlocking the bootloader is revealed?
5) Where can I find a rooting tutorial for 4.3? Can I lose root easily/ corrupt my phone if a Samsung update is applied?
6) Should I wait for a downgrade option? Slash is it supposedly possible (twitter update)?

jl2222 said:
So my last s3 stopped working and I got a new one sent via my extended warranty. Previously I had an unlocked bootloader and root running gummy 4.4 which was awesome! My new phone came stock with 4.3 touchwiz which I am reading might be bad news. So here are my questions:
1) Is there really no way to unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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Nope.
2) What are my alternatives to installing custom roms?
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As of this minute, one option: Saferoot then Safestrap.
3) Is safestrap a stable/safe option even though its in beta?
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Yup. Read the replies in Safestrap if you need reassurance.
4) Can safestrap be reversed if a method for unlocking the bootloader is revealed?
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Yup, you could even Odin flash VRUCML1 4.3 tar and be back to "normal" again. However, don't count on the 4.3 bootloader being unlocked. There's no guarantee anyone is even utilizing their time to find an exploit and its entirely possible no one is.
5) Where can I find a rooting tutorial for 4.3? Can I lose root easily/ corrupt my phone if a Samsung update is applied?
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Read me. Use Saferoot, then SafeStrap. Yes, much worse could happen in a future update as well.
6) Should I wait for a downgrade option? Slash is it supposedly possible (twitter update)?
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That's your call. It's possible, but whether it comes to fruition is entirely different.

Will xposed module work using safestrap safe ROM? Gotta get my greenify experimental features back! And keep chat!
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jl2222 said:
Will xposed module work using safestrap safe ROM? Gotta get my greenify experimental features back! And keep chat!
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They should
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SlimSnoopOS said:
They should
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Im in the same situation as OP.. Xposed works. I'm on alliance 23.
I was wondering can we flash custom kernels then flash the dependencies or are we stuck with the safestrap kernel?
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omair2005 said:
Im in the same situation as OP.. Xposed works. I'm on alliance 23.
I was wondering can we flash custom kernels then flash the dependencies or are we stuck with the safestrap kernel?
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I think flashing a custom kernel isn't suggested with SafeStrap. I don't know the specifics, maybe @BadUsername or someone else can expand on that? I thought I read that you are still running the stock kernel even if you flash a custom kernel when using SafeStrap. Someone was discussing this before but it was not explicitly proven they were in fact running the custom kernel.

omair2005 said:
Im in the same situation as OP.. Xposed works. I'm on alliance 23.
I was wondering can we flash custom kernels then flash the dependencies or are we stuck with the safestrap kernel?
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Good deal! Glad xposed works. How you liking alliance by the way? I'm torn between that and clean rom. I'm actually not the most familiar with TW roms currently. Before this replacement phone I was all ASOP.
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jl2222 said:
Good deal! Glad xposed works. How you liking alliance by the way? I'm torn between that and clean rom. I'm actually not the most familiar with TW roms currently. Before this replacement phone I was all ASOP.
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I've come to the conclusion I want to use my partitions to the full capacity so I'm sticking with stock rom + xposed for any modifications I need..
Yeah same here, I was AOSP for awhile soon as I discovered Quantum Kernels..

omair2005 said:
I've come to the conclusion I want to use my partitions to the full capacity so I'm sticking with stock rom + xposed for any modifications I need..
Yeah same here, I was AOSP for awhile soon as I discovered Quantum Kernels..
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Quantum Kernels huh. Not familiar with those kernels. Ill have to check them out. I would use the stock rom as well Im just worried about a random automatic update that would kill root and make my replacement phone even more useless than it already is without an unlocked bootloader. Do you know if there a way to disable the Samsung update center on the stock rom using root?

jl2222 said:
Quantum Kernels huh. Not familiar with those kernels. Ill have to check them out. I would use the stock rom as well Im just worried about a random automatic update that would kill root and make my replacement phone even more useless than it already is without an unlocked bootloader. Do you know if there a way to disable the Samsung update center on the stock rom using root?
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Use TiBu and freeze SDM, FWupgrade

Custom Recovery for Kitkat

I was just wondering if there is any active development or effort going towards getting a custom Recovery for D800s that are rooted with kitkat. I know that you can go back to stock jellybean and then re root and put back the old recovery and then flash away, but I've been holding off on attempting this assuming some talented developer would create a new custom Recovery sooner or later. If nobody is working on it then that's fine and I can use the former method, I would just like to know if me waiting is pointless or not.
Thank you
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sropedia said:
I was just wondering if there is any active development or effort going towards getting a custom Recovery for D800s that are rooted with kitkat. I know that you can go back to stock jellybean and then re root and put back the old recovery and then flash away, but I've been holding off on attempting this assuming some talented developer would create a new custom Recovery sooner or later. If nobody is working on it then that's fine and I can use the former method, I would just like to know if me waiting is pointless or not.
Thank you
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AutoRec the only ting to keep in mind is that if you are going to flash an aosp/4.2 rom you also got to flash a kk baseband ported for aosp or the jb baseband

Thank you! How would I go about finding one of those basbands?
Edit: when looking at the Mahdi ROM thread I noticed there is a device specific "patch" file that I'm supposed to flash a long with the ROM, is that what you were referring to?
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sropedia said:
Thank you! How would I go about finding one of those basbands?
Edit: when looking at the Mahdi ROM thread I noticed there is a device specific "patch" file that I'm supposed to flash a long with the ROM, is that what you were referring to?
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No the patches for some roms are because they support multiple devices and the patches are usually modified kernels to boot the different devices the baseband is for touch/gps/radio/rotation/etc there is a the w ad which has most of the jellybean basebands and cloudy has the stock kk basebands in most of his roms thread
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Benefits of flashing stock 4.4.4 rom

Hello,
I am currently running SlimKat stable build 7 with elemental x. My nexus 5 has been unlocked, rooted and been running custom roms since 4.4.1. I have flashed the 4.4.4. Radio recently and it's been working good.
Will i benefit from flashing a stock Rom apart from the Radio?? Will flashing stock fix any bugs I might have even though I'v e been running SlimKat with no problems at all.
Thanks.
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Mojar7070 said:
Hello,
I am currently running SlimKat stable build 7 with elemental x. My nexus 5 has been unlocked, rooted and been running custom roms since 4.4.1. I have flashed the 4.4.4. Radio recently and it's been working good.
Will i benefit from flashing a stock Rom apart from the Radio?? Will flashing stock fix any bugs I might have even though I'v e been running SlimKat with no problems at all.
Thanks.
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If slimkat is running without problems why flash stock?
The old saying don't fix what isn't broken:good:

Mojar7070 said:
Hello,
I am currently running SlimKat stable build 7 with elemental x. My nexus 5 has been unlocked, rooted and been running custom roms since 4.4.1. I have flashed the 4.4.4. Radio recently and it's been working good.
Will i benefit from flashing a stock Rom apart from the Radio?? Will flashing stock fix any bugs I might have even though I'v e been running SlimKat with no problems at all.
Thanks.
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I must admit I simply don't understand what you're getting at here. You say Slimkat is running good, why change it? If you go to stock you'll lose features. Most ROMs are about as stable as stock by now anyways.

and radios and roms are completely unrelated. you can flash whatever custom rom, none of them include radios. radios are a separate flash.

Very true. SlimKat at has been really stable for me. Its more of planning for the next Android OS release. Maybe something I'm not seeing or experiencing but might cause problems later on.
Thanks.
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simms22 said:
and radios and roms are completely unrelated. you can flash whatever custom rom, none of them include radios. radios are a separate flash.
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This is my point exactly, even though I flashed the radio, it doesn't apply to the Rom and it's features.
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TheLastSidekick said:
I must admit I simply don't understand what you're getting at here. You say Slimkat is running good, why change it? If you go to stock you'll lose features. Most ROMs are about as stable as stock by now anyways.
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I understand I'll lose the features, but maybe there are certain "codes" that the stock Rom has and custom does not.
You are right though, most custom roms are very stable already.
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Mojar7070 said:
I understand I'll lose the features, but maybe there are certain "codes" that the stock Rom has and custom does not.
You are right though, most custom roms are very stable already.
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As far as I know, there's no good reason to return to stock. People still on stock generally have had problems in the past with other ROMs and prefer the guaranteed stability of stock. I know Franco one of our kernel developers uses stock with his kernels and his reason given was because it's the only ROM that can support everyone the way he intended and guarantees it works properly.

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I understand I'll lose the features, but maybe there are certain "codes" that the stock Rom has and custom does not.
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If you don't know what these "codes" are or how they affect your experience then they should be irrelevant to you.

Wakamatsu said:
If you don't know what these "codes" are or how they affect your experience then they should be irrelevant to you.
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Sounds like a plan. Thanks.
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TheLastSidekick said:
As far as I know, there's no good reason to return to stock. People still on stock generally have had problems in the past with other ROMs and prefer the guaranteed stability of stock.
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This is why I am on stock. Seems like everytime I go with a custom ROM I eventually end up getting annoying system UI FCs. Very rarely ever get it on stock. Would love to ask what ROMs are the most stable so I can experiment, but alas that's not allowed so I'll stick with stock, but rooted.

scottharris4 said:
This is why I am on stock. Seems like everytime I go with a custom ROM I eventually end up getting annoying system UI FCs. Very rarely ever get it on stock.
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I too experienced this. Until I discovered Rastakat and for some reason, never had any weird problems after that.

TheLastSidekick said:
I too experienced this. Until I discovered Rastakat and for some reason, never had any weird problems after that.
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What is Rastakat?

scottharris4 said:
What is Rastakat?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541185
[ROM] RASTAKAT [Android 4.4.4_r1 KTU84P] [PRODUCT_DEVICE := hammerhead] + Vanilla
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scottharris4 said:
What is Rastakat?
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A custom ROM in Original Development.

TheLastSidekick said:
I too experienced this. Until I discovered Rastakat and for some reason, never had any weird problems after that.
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Never had one that wasn't my own doing.
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rootSU said:
Never had one that wasn't my own doing.
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I mean it very well could be my own doing, but the same things I generally did on other ROMs that produced some errors didn't on Rastakat. I guess everyone finds their true ROM in the end, lol.

TheLastSidekick said:
I mean it very well could be my own doing, but the same things I generally did on other ROMs that produced some errors didn't on Rastakat. I guess everyone finds their true ROM in the end, lol.
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I'm not familiar with Rastakat, so how is their history with ROM development? I ask because I don't want to flash it and then before long they just stop official development (like what happened with CyanogenMod on my Moto G).

scottharris4 said:
I'm not familiar with Rastakat, so how is their history with ROM development? I ask because I don't want to flash it and then before long they just stop official development (like what happened with CyanogenMod on my Moto G).
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I guess the only way to describe is to see for yourself. Go check out the thread. All of the users there constantly help each other.

TheLastSidekick said:
I guess the only way to describe is to see for yourself. Go check out the thread. All of the users there constantly help each other.
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hi i am new to nexus 5 , just wanted to know what is the build date on the offical stock kernel 4.4.4.,mine is mon-mar- 17/ 15.16.36 PDT 2014, could you please tell me if i am on the right version build date , regards joe,