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Hi, I wanted to post some feedback/ideas in the ZDbox development thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963199 ) and possibly a couple of others, but I cannot post in the thread.
Is this simply because I have less than ten posts? I now have the grand total of one post! If this is the case, I don't really fancy posting 10 useless posts elsewhere, and I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be appreciated either!
Thanks
I agree I totally joined this website so that I could express my thanks to a specific person for a thread and then ask a qualifying question or two. But I do think that the 10 post requirement is a bit high but I also don't understand how someone who only showed 5 post was able to post whereas I was unable to. Have you had any luck?
Nah, I just emailed the developer directly. Same with a couple of other apps I like but aren't quite perfect yet. But doing it this way no one else gets to read it and agree/disagree etc. Seems a bit daft to me.
Agreed
I have to agree, I now only have a couple of posts, but I can't really post in the thread I need to because of the limitation. I'm all for helping others out, but seeing as I'm just getting started with some of this, its a bit of a steep climb just so I can post an update on what is working/not working on the current flavor of ROM I got from a developer posting.
It is not the quantity of posts, it is the quality. You could make 100 ****ty posts and still not be allowed to post in developers forums.
For some people it might be unjust to enforce this rule.
But in general it keeps 90% of idiots from creating an account and spamming the dev forums, thus anoying developers and making it unnecessary difficult to find stuff in there or have a decent high level conversation.
If you look at those 1000 pages threads of some ROMs 70% of those posts are unnecessary.
-'Thank you posts' we have a button for that...
-Countless posts with "HALP MY PHONE NOT BOOT what wrong"
-And a ****load of others posts which could have been answered by the search function or actually reading the thread which no one does because it is so huge due to unnecessary posts...
Read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Well I guess you should have done better research huh. All the roms on XDA are betas as there is no promise it will work. Also making 10 valid posts is not that hard. Any pointless post count bumping will be deleted.
This is a developers forum
Not a users forum
zelendel said:
Well I guess you should have done better research huh. All the roms on XDA are betas as there is no promise it will work. Also making 10 valid posts is not that hard. Any pointless post count bumping will be deleted.
This is a developers forum
Not a users forum
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Dear Zelendel,
this has nothing to do with missing research. I've been using ROM's from the xda-community for some time now and never had any unsolvable problems so far. Therefore I had no reason to post. Right now i'm encountering a strange behaviour with the newest update of the ROM I'm using. And since there is no solution described in the thread of this ROM so far, I wanted to contribute something to make the developer aware of this problem and to better the ROM. Where else would user comments be more needed than in the developement section? What would be development without user feedback? Nothing, I'd say. And if you don't think so, you can delete half of the comments there since they're often not saying more than "oh, wifi support is missing, why is that", "can you integrate that feature from...", etc. And someone with 20 postings can write as much **** there as someone with five postings, and they often do. So the number of postings is not necessarily a quality indicator. It's just delaying feedback and in my case the recovery of my phone.
This not ment to insult anyone on this board, it's great to have it, it's a source of great software and information. It's just sometimes you can't relate to specific board rules and it's frustrating because it's hindering you getting problems solved.
Happy holidays...
Did you try sending a PM to the Dev? Or maybe one of the regular rom users? This is normally alot faster way to get a reply. Most issues have been come across at least once before.
n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Simple!
Its to cut down on the n00b crap that pollutes the dev forum. As already stated this is a dev forum not a support forum.
99.9% of things you could ask or post have already been posted so look and read before attempting to post.
Post your issue here and the rom you have issue with and Ill try and help, although its extremely likely all I will do is use search or read forum and get answer for you, which is what you should be doing really.
And before you said "I've already looked" etc, You obviously don't do it properly as this very topic you have created has already been created and discussed AT LENGTH!!
n0me said:
Dear Zelendel,
this has nothing to do with missing research. I've been using ROM's from the xda-community for some time now and never had any unsolvable problems so far. Therefore I had no reason to post. Right now i'm encountering a strange behaviour with the newest update of the ROM I'm using. And since there is no solution described in the thread of this ROM so far, I wanted to contribute something to make the developer aware of this problem and to better the ROM. Where else would user comments be more needed than in the developement section? What would be development without user feedback? Nothing, I'd say. And if you don't think so, you can delete half of the comments there since they're often not saying more than "oh, wifi support is missing, why is that", "can you integrate that feature from...", etc. And someone with 20 postings can write as much **** there as someone with five postings, and they often do. So the number of postings is not necessarily a quality indicator. It's just delaying feedback and in my case the recovery of my phone.
This not ment to insult anyone on this board, it's great to have it, it's a source of great software and information. It's just sometimes you can't relate to specific board rules and it's frustrating because it's hindering you getting problems solved.
Happy holidays...
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You may have been using ROM's for a long time, but obviously not XDA. The 10 post rule is to prevent spam from getting into the truly Development Forums. The moderators can deal with the spam in the general, but it has no place in the thread for a ROM. If you go through the pages of the general forum, you can find numerous spam posts. I'm not talking about a pointless post, I mean true spam...advertisements and such. These are posted by people with 1 or 2 posts. So instead of complaining, go to the off-topic section, knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds and you are good to go. It is protection FOR you, not AGAINST you.
I have been registered here for more then 2 years, I read and read and have questions from time to time. but either say screw the answer (if I cant find it) or look elsewhere.
I understand WHY the rule is a min. post count. But apparently there was something wrong with the site two years ago and the "Action Required to Activate Membership for xda-developers" email had problems. Without activating account you cant even see your profile OR post in the designated areas.... annoying to say the least since you dont even know that you didnt get an email you were suppose to.
So after resending the activation link just now on a hunch (and getting another error /shakes head) I am able to post and see my profile in full I believe, since the email came through despite the error on the board. Not to mention why I have 27 posts yet had to activate the account again!
Maybe the post count rule isnt the solution to the spam problem as it hinders the very development its meant to protect. Maybe with such a vast team to oversee things that harsher penalties for such spam posting could be implemented and the current post count rule be abandoned. But what do I know it seems the site fouled up in a unique way for my account....
zelendel said:
Did you try sending a PM to the Dev? Or maybe one of the regular rom users? This is normally alot faster way to get a reply. Most issues have been come across at least once before.
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I did send a private message to the developer and I have to see what comes out of this. But in my opinion it is a lot more molesting to write a p.m. than to post in a thread. Also I thought it might help others with the same problem to have it discussed in public.
lowandbehold said:
So instead of complaining, go to the off-topic section, knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds and you are good to go. It is protection FOR you, not AGAINST you.
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I tried exactly this, trying to post ten comments in some trash forum or a very very old thread and guess what! You have to wait five minutes between postings as a "newbie" and even better the post was deleted just a few minutes later, resetting my post count to zero again. Seems like moderators take their job very seriously at 3 a.m. cet So no chance this way.
TheATHEiST said:
Simple!
Its to cut down on the n00b crap that pollutes the dev forum. As already stated this is a dev forum not a support forum.
99.9% of things you could ask or post have already been posted so look and read before attempting to post.
Post your issue here and the rom you have issue with and Ill try and help, although its extremely likely all I will do is use search or read forum and get answer for you, which is what you should be doing really.
And before you said "I've already looked" etc, You obviously don't do it properly as this very topic you have created has already been created and discussed AT LENGTH!!
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It seems you have more insight in the spam topic than I do. And it's good people look after spam. But sometimes these rules are just getting in the way of solving things.
As I pointed out before developers are nothing without the community and the feedback of the users. I guess most devs are not programming ROM after ROM just for the sake of it or giving it to their ten close friends, but to spread their good work to the community for everyone to benefit from it. And how many of the registered users on here are really devs? Is it more than 5 to 10%?
Posting my ROM-specific issue in the general section? How fast will moderators remind me that this is the wrong place and the posting will be removed or moved to the appropriate section. So maybe I will do this and get my post to the thread it belongs to without having ten postings after all
And yes I searched the thread all the way after the release of the recent ROM version to see if someone had the same problem. There were some hints people had, but no soultion was offered. So to boost problem solution and for the sake of solidarity with my fellow users I wanted to post there.
But maybe I will just save my time and instead of posting here any longer and just rebuild the phone from step one with a new ROM. Seems faster than to get help here.
Happy holidays...
n0me said:
It seems you have more insight in the spam topic than I do. And it's good people look after spam. But sometimes these rules are just getting in the way of solving things.
As I pointed out before developers are nothing without the community and the feedback of the users. I guess most devs are not programming ROM after ROM just for the sake of it or giving it to their ten close friends, but to spread their good work to the community for everyone to benefit from it. And how many of the registered users on here are really devs? Is it more than 5 to 10%?
Posting my ROM-specific issue in the general section? How fast will moderators remind me that this is the wrong place and the posting will be removed or moved to the appropriate section. So maybe I will do this and get my post to the thread it belongs to without having ten postings after all
And yes I searched the thread all the way after the release of the recent ROM version to see if someone had the same problem. There were some hints people had, but no soultion was offered. So to boost problem solution and for the sake of solidarity with my fellow users I wanted to post there.
But maybe I will just save my time and instead of posting here any longer and just rebuild the phone from step one with a new ROM. Seems faster than to get help here.
Happy holidays...
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Many moon's ago before implementation of post rules there wasn't just a small amount of spam and most of our time was dishing out bans and removing threads so the implementation is to help users and XDA it may be a gripe to new users but it saves work load in the long run.
Besides 10 posts without being SPAM is easily achievable.
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@ OP
No need to create tipple posts, You have a "multi-quote" button or an "edit" button.
The 10 post rule has absolutely nothing to do with advertising spam, Its simply to do with not allowing new users to post questions etc since any questions they have will have already been asked and people was getting sick of seeing the same ****. The limit is there to force users to sit back and have a good read instead of jumping in and posting as soon as they reach hurdle.
Also do not listen to the person who told you to post knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds as they will just get pruned by mods after users report you.
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@ OP
No need to create tipple posts, You have a "multi-quote" button or an "edit" button.
The 10 post rule has absolutely nothing to do with advertising spam, Its simply to do with not allowing new users to post questions etc since any questions they have will have already been asked and people was getting sick of seeing the same ****. The limit is there to force users to sit back and have a good read instead of jumping in and posting as soon as they reach hurdle.
Also do not listen to the person who told you to post knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds as they will just get pruned by mods after users report you.
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HAHAHA, so post 10 posts and you are not a noob. Get real buddy. And if you re read my post you will see that I said to do it in THE OFF TOPIC SECTION! I highly doubt he will get reported to a mod for posting in the "3 Word Story" thread. Grow up.
lowandbehold said:
HAHAHA, so post 10 posts and you are not a noob. Get real buddy. And if you re read my post you will see that I said to do it in THE OFF TOPIC SECTION! I highly doubt he will get reported to a mod for posting in the "3 Word Story" thread. Grow up.
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Firstly, When did I say or infer that posting 10 posts and you're not a n00b??
I said that the 10 post rule is to stop n00bs joining up and immediately jumping in and posting without first searching. Also yes he will get reported and posts pruned, even in off-topic section if they are his first posts and simply spamming to bypass 10 post rule.
Secondly, "grow up"?? wtf are you talking about? Have you been smoking crack with your family today for Xmas? If you are going to reply or contradict me at least try and make sense.
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Firstly, When did I say or infer that posting 10 posts and you're not a n00b??
I said that the 10 post rule is to stop n00bs joining up and immediately jumping in and posting without first searching. Also yes he will get reported and posts pruned, even in off-topic section if they are his first posts and simply spamming to bypass 10 post rule.
Secondly, "grow up"?? wtf are you talking about? Have you been smoking crack with your family today for Xmas? If you are going to reply or contradict me at least try and make sense.
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You are very lost and confused...
n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Seriously, come on..
I fully understand this rule and I have "only" been a member since feb 2011..
Since I own a huge forum of my own I might have some info to bring forward to you.
If you allow newbies to post everywhere, where do you think the forum will be placed?
a) In the top of active forum list?
b) In the spammers heaven list?
And a follow up to that, where do you think a forum owner would like to end up?
All right kids knock it off. The 10 post rule is there for a reason and it is not hard to make 10 good posts.
As for the question of what would be posted if users couldn't post? Well check my sign for that answer. Before android hit the masses, the posts in Dev based threads were Dev related posts offering fixes. If something is broken in a rom your using then dig in and try to fix it. That is what XDA is here for. To help others learn. Rom makers do it for the fun of it and decide to share. Some also include small bugs to see who will try to help fix it by providing good info and possible fixes and who will post "huh this is broke please fix"
Meanwhile back at the ranch...
Ok, to end this thread, I restored the phone yesterday using the good old diy-trial-and-error method. Works like a charm again with the old ROM. I have to see where I go from here ROM-wise. I will probably change the ROM and move to a more user-focused community. Meanwhile the dev got back to my p.m. explaining what could have caused the problem, which is very kind of him. So thanks to ladyboo for helping out.
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I will probably change the ROM and move to a more user-focused community.
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lol, good luck finding a forum with even 1% of the roms/releasers/info that XDA has
LMAO!! So...I think he got his 10 posts here...
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LMAO!! So...I think he got his 10 posts here...
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But I understand the need for 10 posts...It's really not that hard. and in the case of an emergency...PM the dev.. I did
I have been a member for years. I don't post often but read a lot. (More people should.) I have over 10 posts but I am not able to download. Is it because I haven't posted in so long? I was able to download a little over a month ago no problem but now it says I don't have 10.
When you are absolutly sure, that u only cant download from this website,
then you should contact an admin by using the contact form!
regards
hazzmatt69 said:
I have been a member for years. I don't post often but read a lot. (More people should.) I have over 10 posts but I am not able to download. Is it because I haven't posted in so long? I was able to download a little over a month ago no problem but now it says I don't have 10.
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Downloads don't have postcount limit, in fact you can download while not logged in!
What are you trying to access?
Here is the link to the page and to the response that I get.
Thanks for the help so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463854
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hazzmatt69, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Try logging out, clearing your cookies, and logging back in. You never know, might work
Maybe you are not verified???
Yeah that 10 posts thing is garbage. Lol. I read through these forums and don't really post because all my questions are answered by reading. I understand your frustration. Hopefully you get this figured out.
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hazzmatt69 said:
Here is the link to the page and to the response that I get.
Thanks for the help so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463854
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I've got the same problem. But the first link is useless (for you). You need to click the second link.
The first one says "Thank you." to the author.
And that seems to be forbidden for users without ten posts.
- My first post!
awww bless congratulations on your first post.
that link doesnt work for me either.
-> My 10th post
Related Q
How are people with only 3 posts posting in development threads?
I can't yet. I don't mind. It's a good rule. Just wondering what's up.
jrocivxx said:
Yeah that 10 posts thing is garbage. Lol. I read through these forums and don't really post because all my questions are answered by reading. I understand your frustration. Hopefully you get this figured out.
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agreed, im trying to post up a how to guide with photos for the galaxy note and it wont even let me, now ive got to make up another 6 or so nonsense posts still before im allowed, I feel like im spamming but unfortunetly its the only way!
I can understand the 10 post limit, however there should be an option to be invited by a friend or even a developer.
LOL....Not enjoying this 10 post rule but I understand it. Been reading these forums for months and finally decided I wanted to help out in some of the dev threads and learned I couldn't yet. I remember what it was like being a noob so have some patience for it. But happy to be a part of this community!
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ElScorpione said:
I can understand the 10 post limit, however there should be an option to be invited by a friend or even a developer.
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Congrats on #10! This post will probably be deleted now. hahaha!
Annoying
The first 10 posts r really annoying!
i dont have 10
I somehow agree...
Well, all the forums are affected by a strange epidemic problem: Noobs that start to post few things like "I like it" just see their counter going up.
I am a new "NOOB" here too and this is my second post but all I wanted to do is to give a feedback to one developer about a ViewPad7 ROM I downloaded from here two weeks ago. It was not one of the classic "Please I need this function working on my VP7". It's a valid feedback with some advices but I cannot.
So I believe that sending a PM to a developer and then developer sending you an invitation to take active part to a discussion.. will be a nice feature.
Same for me but I am new.
Been trying to get permissions to post in the dev forums, to be frank, the main reason i registered as its what xdadev is renowned for.
Got more than 10 posts, not really being GIVEN a reason, per se, that explains why I cant post yet
It's a good idea though, but if I meet the freaking criteria, it should be letting me in!
Yeah I get it for new comers that just want a quick fix without searching the forums and doing their homework and for spam. I can donate on a dev site but can't post? What gives.
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Glad I'm not the only one frustrated beyond believe with this STUPID, I'm gonna say it again IDIOTIC rule. I get it, we don't need NooBs spamming the forum and I respect XDA immensely but for the sake of everything that's sweet and evil I can't even express my gratitude to my precious Devs for the hard work they did on the ROM I have been using for months now :/ Yes, I can hit the thanks button, I can donate but still I want to voice my excitement! Now, I'm done venting and apologize for spamming. Android FTW!
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I don't see what the issue is... I once made 100 (useful) posts in 2 days. I don't see how 10 is a problem
So, i'm member for quite a long time (not including the hours i've spent without logging in!) and the post limitation is just of no use.
Mostly I browse through XDA in matters of need.
I Reply only in a topic of my interest, not just posting [email protected] so I can lift the 10 posts limitation.
Right now I'm trying to reply in a developer thread for a software that I've found a solution to a program error
and I can't post it because of my 10 post limitation.
IMO post count just doesn't work the way it supposed to.
It keeps away some people that want and know how to help in a problem but they are very irritated because they can't post.
And what's with the 9-digit captchas? I feel like I'm being punished!
P.S: I just tried to edit my post and guess what? I had to wait another 5 minutes...
It's got to be really easy to make 10 posts, there are loads of general discussion thread you could participate in.
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It's got to be really easy to make 10 posts, there are loads of general discussion thread you could participate in.
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Yes bro they are the best way to help new people and make them comfortable and also increase your post count
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Here's a good place to voice your concerns/get more information:
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Hello,
Can somebody explain why there is a 10 posts policy? I am new in this forum, before I used it a lot for reading and download useful software.
Now I want to install FlashTool Xperia Driver Pack (v1.5) available by this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635830, but something goes wrong. I would like to ask in that thread, but I cannot, because I do not have 10 posts yet. Is there any options to ask this question without making 10 posts?
P.S. It is really strange policy, because many people will not ask question, will not get help and will tell to their friends that xda-developers is useless. Also from site promotion (SEO) point of view it is better to have more posts and etc, but this rule is really limits it.
Zlelik said:
Hello,
Can somebody explain why there is a 10 posts policy? I am new in this forum, before I used it a lot for reading and download useful software.
Now I want to install FlashTool Xperia Driver Pack (v1.5) available by this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635830, but something goes wrong. I would like to ask in that thread, but I cannot, because I do not have 10 posts yet. Is there any options to ask this question without making 10 posts?
P.S. It is really strange policy, because many people will not ask question, will not get help and will tell to their friends that xda-developers is useless. Also from site promotion (SEO) point of view it is better to have more posts and etc, but this rule is really limits it.
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It is so new users don't break rules. New users probably will not know what to do and they might post something in the wrong section or something that's not allowed.
For now go to another thread and post some posts there, but don't post just to get 10 posts. Whew, that was 4 posts in just one sentence. :sly:
janekmuric said:
It is so new users don't break rules. New users probably will not know what to do and they might post something in the wrong section or something that's not allowed.
For now go to another thread and post some posts there, but don't post just to get 10 posts. Whew, that was 4 posts in just one sentence. :sly:
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Anyway there is moderation and moderators can move or delete or block wrong posts. Otherwise this forum is not a helpful place for people how really need help, It is place for people how already know a lot, but they want to discuss deep details.
Actually the 10 posts policy to stop spamming on this forum. You can find a lot of spammer all over the online forums. They just try to create backlink. The 10 posts policy prevent this kind of spamming on this forum.