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Android app like "side by side"?

I have a need for this app; it's called "side by side" and it's only on iPad.
Here is the verbage from the youtube video:
Side by Side is a multiple-screen reader/browser with offline reading and note taking capabilities. It turns one iPad into 1 to 4 devices working in parallel.
You can browse webpages, download files, read documents, or take notes on each split screen.
It allows you to have multiple apps running side by side on the screen....
Any android app that will do this?

agreed
I would love to have an app like this for android.
I'm really hoping someone has or is in the middle of creating this type of app for honeycomb.

rpavich said:
I have a need for this app; it's called "side by side" and it's only on iPad.
Here is the verbage from the youtube video:
Side by Side is a multiple-screen reader/browser with offline reading and note taking capabilities. It turns one iPad into 1 to 4 devices working in parallel.
You can browse webpages, download files, read documents, or take notes on each split screen.
It allows you to have multiple apps running side by side on the screen....
Any android app that will do this?
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it's called multitasking.. android has it
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Multitasking and running 2 apps next to each other is hardly the same thing.

leonpr said:
Multitasking and running 2 apps next to each other is hardly the same thing.
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Yes...that would be the point. Switching apps is not the same thing.
Specifically, I'd like to be looking at one app while taking notes on the other side of the screen....

rpavich said:
Specifically, I'd like to be looking at one app while taking notes on the other side of the screen....
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I think we'd all love to know what technology/trickery you are using to make one eye focus on your notes while the other eye focusses on another app. Totally unrelated ofc, but you made me think of THIS video.
Nothing like this exists that I'm aware of... so far. Unless you are using some remote desktop software and accessing a pc/mac. Most ipad apps seem to get ported over so I'm sure we'll see it in the future.

stuntdouble said:
I think we'd all love to know what technology/trickery you are using to make one eye focus on your notes while the other eye focusses on another app. .
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That's funny!

This is what you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezvAs759rbg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Unfortunately, these guys are only selling their software to OEM's, so the chance of buying it from the market are zero... you'll have to buy a new device with the software built-in. I hope someone will be able to hack and extract the software to run on our tablets - this solution is WAY better than side-by-side as it allows for real apps to be run in each window (not just a simple browser or notepad).
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Yep...that's exactly it....
Hopefully somebody hacks it eventually.

rpavich said:
Yep...that's exactly it....
Hopefully somebody hacks it eventually.
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FYI: you can sign up to be a beta tester on their facebook page! Maybe there is hope that this will be a standalone software!!!!
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EP2008 said:
FYI: you can sign up to be a beta tester on their facebook page! Maybe there is hope that this will be a standalone software!!!!
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can you link it..? I couldn't find them.

rpavich said:
can you link it..? I couldn't find them.
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Here you go : http://www.facebook.com/onskreen.cornerstone
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Just FYI the "Side-by-side" app doesn't actually allow you to run multiple apps side-by-side, it only allows you do a limited number of specific tasks (web browsing/note taking) that are baked into the app.
To override an application's screen context would require extensive changes to the Android framework (and similar changes to iOS but no-one but Apple has access to the source for iOS) and would only happen as a full custom build of the OS (Like the "EDEN" system of the Notion Ink Adam)

[Q] Is it bad to post an apk?

If I've already uploaded an app to the Market, is it alright to post the apk here and not have to worry about people stealing it or ripping the code and making their own version of it?

Even your market version can be ripped and stolen. Its best to upload to mrket first. That way u have the name preserved.
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rpimps said:
If I've already uploaded an app to the Market, is it alright to post the apk here and not have to worry about people stealing it or ripping the code and making their own version of it?
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It can happen. I don't know of any ways to prevent it, but here's a thread for reference with some tips:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900923

^ Yeah I saw the Davinci thread, that's what made me worried about posting it. I already published it and it's already on Androlib etc so they can't steal the package name, but I spent a lot of time on the code and don't want someone to be able to extract it and create a ripoff version of my game.
If someone downloads it from the Market, can they extract the code and edit it to create their own version of the app, or is it locked somehow?

bumpppppppp

If you post it on the market, here, or anywhere else your code is out in the open. But android is supposed to be open source anyway.

BenKranged said:
If you post it on the market, here, or anywhere else your code is out in the open. But android is supposed to be open source anyway.
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That's android. Not his app.

Any android APK can decompiled easyly smali or Java code but so is any application on internet, there's a way you can make it hard to decompile, like use ".so" library file for all the code u wanna hide.
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Hmm, so if I've already posted it in the Market, would posting the apk here basically be the same thing, and I wouldn't be hurting myself? I just want to make sure I'm not making it any easier for thieves/scammers.

In all honesty you're not gonna make it easier or harder for theives. If they want it they will do what they can to get it. Unfortunately most creations have been thought of before and made before. Even if things are slightly changed.
You got your app out there man. Just see how well it does and maybe implement the hints given

Yip, if people want to get to your code, they will, its pretty easy to nab the apk from a device once installed.

System/App Folder

Hello All,
I have been working on customizing my Sprint S3 for a while, this forum as usual has been so immensely helpful.
I have modified several key things, i prefer to not use the kitchen, not thats it not useful but the main tools just work for me( apktool, smali.jar, baksmali.jar)
I have been poking and prodding every file in the stock S3 rom that I got from XDA, it is DeOdexed which frankly is so much easier to work with.
Without me ranting and boring all of you to death, I want to know if anyone has a list of apps that I can add to the system/app folder and work right out of the rom when I start it. Just flash rom and they work.
Examples:
I know for a fact the following work by simply dropping them into the system/app folder
esexplorer
Titanium Backup
Safe wallet
Amazon app store
The issue is not every app I "place" inside this folder will install, in fact they cause crashes if opened in the rom after installation. I read here somewhere that certain apps install libraries and need to be installed manually, but I am sure that something can be done to be mitigated for this issue would allow me to install more apps like AdAway and many more instead of me modifying the hosts file. Is this even possible or would this be a developer issue that is not meant to be solved as I do not understand how some apps work flawlessly and some just fail miserably. I have even heard to install with a flashable zip but come on I mean 4 more clicks to get a rom working the way I want nahhh.

Not Sure
So, got some views, must be a tough one to answer, I figured when an APK is installed, it is similar to when a program is installed and folders are created on its own, I suppose I lack knowledge on how some programs do not require such things and others require manual installation. Anyone have any insight on my logic?

zalooa said:
So, got some views, must be a tough one to answer, I figured when an APK is installed, it is similar to when a program is installed and folders are created on its own, I suppose I lack knowledge on how some programs do not require such things and others require manual installation. Anyone have any insight on my logic?
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yeah, ive had the same problem, summarised it as only some apps like facebook, twitter and a few others didnt crash, id blame it on the updated google play services

ricky310711 said:
yeah, ive had the same problem, summarised it as only some apps like facebook, twitter and a few others didnt crash, id blame it on the updated google play services
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Can't help you sorry about that but i just wanted to give my opinion on this
i wouldn't appreciate it when i buy a computer that it got preinstalled things like itunes because i maybe have a iPod or iPad and especially nto when it's hard to remove
If google killed the drag and drop hey i added an app to the system behavior i would like to say this to them
Thanks you google!
Why add app to a ROM when user can download them from the play store?
And if you want to add them so badly why not add them to /data/app so they are easier to delete for regular users?

owain94 said:
Can't help you sorry about that but i just wanted to give my opinion on this
i wouldn't appreciate it when i buy a computer that it got preinstalled things like itunes because i maybe have a iPod or iPad and especially nto when it's hard to remove
If google killed the drag and drop hey i added an app to the system behavior i would like to say this to them
Thanks you google!
Why add app to a ROM when user can download them from the play store?
And if you want to add them so badly why not add them to /data/app so they are easier to delete for regular users?
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Some people roms depend on xposed and some modules though, also dsp manager for enhanced sound capabilities!
Although I know were your coming from!

ricky310711 said:
Some people roms depend on xposed and some modules though, also dsp manager for enhanced sound capabilities!
Although I know were your coming from!
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Yeah, but that's different
Those have a purpose to users who download the rom, whereas bloat that the majority of people don't use does not

CNexus said:
Yeah, but that's different
Those have a purpose to users who download the rom, whereas bloat that the majority of people don't use does not
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but thats what hes trying to say, regardless of if it has a purpose these .apk files are crashing..

ricky310711 said:
but thats what hes trying to say, regardless of if it has a purpose these .apk files are crashing..
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Yeah, sorry I was just replying to your post, not to the OP
I've actually looked into this and it looks like to get stuff to work right when you stick it in /system/app, you need to add lib files into the apk itself and then drop it in /system/app

CNexus said:
Yeah, sorry I was just replying to your post, not to the OP
I've actually looked into this and it looks like to get stuff to work right when you stick it in /system/app, you need to add lib files into the apk itself and then drop it in /system/app
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i know
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CNexus said:
Yeah, sorry I was just replying to your post, not to the OP
I've actually looked into this and it looks like to get stuff to work right when you stick it in /system/app, you need to add lib files into the apk itself and then drop it in /system/app
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also i found out that most of the time the cause of this is the api level? hmmm, confusing...

ricky310711 said:
Some people roms depend on xposed and some modules though, also dsp manager for enhanced sound capabilities!
Although I know were your coming from!
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ROMs never depend on xposed
cooked aka winzipped ROMs maybe do but well that's not a proper way to make a ROM
If users want xposed they can just install it no problem
DSP manager easy just drop the sources files in the folder and build easy as that
and if you really want to "winzip" a rom you can just add the libs for DSP Manager to the system/lib folder
if you take a look at the sources https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_DSPManager
you'll see a folder called cyanogen-dsp if you look in there and open the Android.mk file you can just easily spot the two modief files for DSP manager
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_DSPManager/blob/cm-10.2/cyanogen-dsp/Android.mk
one is a conf file and one is a lib
but well just building from source is way better and even easier...

How about you build me a Touchwiz rom from source then.

CNexus said:
How about you build me a Touchwiz rom from source then.
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Building / developing a ROM != winzipping
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Cyanogenmod File Manager

I need this app, can someone help.
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blaisecardoz said:
I need this app, can someone help.
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lets go

drdoulittle said:
lets go
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thanks a ton
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drdoulittle said:
lets go
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Wow thanks a lot, that came in handy! :good:
Where did you get it from? I noticed it is in version 1.0.2 (see Settings > About), however latest version on CM GitHub (github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_CMFileManager/tree/cm-11.0) only says 1.0.1 in its changelog... Did you extract it from a ROM? Any idea why this version (with actualised changelog) cannot be found anywhere on CM infrastructure (gerrit, github...)?

Neitsab said:
Wow thanks a lot, that came in handy! :good:
Where did you get it from? I noticed it is in version 1.0.2 (see Settings > About), however latest version on CM GitHub (github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_CMFileManager/tree/cm-11.0) only says 1.0.1 in its changelog... Did you extract it from a ROM? Any idea why this version (with actualised changelog) cannot be found anywhere on CM infrastructure (gerrit, github...)?
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Extracting from a ROM is the quickest way and most ROMs have 1.0.2 in them.

Lethargy said:
Extracting from a ROM is the quickest way and most ROMs have 1.0.2 in them.
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You mean, compared to building from source ? This wasn't the reason why I was asking: I was just trying to find a definitive answer on "what's the latest version of this app", and official source code is always the best option to sort out such enquiry
It seems strange to me that most ROMs have an 1.0.2 version while CM repos don't seem to contain anything higher than 1.0.1 (by changelog comparison). So my question remains: where does that updated version come from?
Cheers

Neitsab said:
You mean, compared to building from source ? This wasn't the reason why I was asking: I was just trying to find a definitive answer on "what's the latest version of this app", and official source code is always the best option to sort out such enquiry
It seems strange to me that most ROMs have an 1.0.2 version while CM repos don't seem to contain anything higher than 1.0.1 (by changelog comparison). So my question remains: where does that updated version come from?
Cheers
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https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_CMFileManager/tree/cm-11.0
You were probably looking at the cm-10.2 branch lol. The default branch of CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_CMFileManager is cm-10.2 if you look here: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_CMFileManager/branches

Lethargy said:
You were probably looking at the cm-10.2 branch lol.
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I thought so at first, but if you look at this branch's CHANGELOG.md file, you'll see it hasn't been modified in two years and mentions the "1.0.1" version as the latest one. This is why I've precisely mentioned the branch URL in my first post, but because of my inability to post links you might have overlooked it Thanks for your investigations nonetheless!

Neitsab said:
I thought so at first, but if you look at this branch's CHANGELOG.md file, you'll see it hasn't been modified in two years and mentions the "1.0.1" version as the latest one. This is why I've precisely mentioned the branch URL in my first post, but because of my inability to post links you might have overlooked it Thanks for your investigations nonetheless!
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Look in AndroidManifest.xml
Didn't see that you already mentioned you looked in cm-11 branch, they just haven't update the changelog but the app that gets compiled is 1.0.2.

Lethargy said:
Look in AndroidManifest.xml
Didn't see that you already mentioned you looked in cm-11 branch, they just haven't update the changelog but the app that gets compiled is 1.0.2.
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Thanks, this one does indeed mention 1.0.2! However, where does the changelog entry in the app's "Settings > About" screen come from then?
Version 1.0.2
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* move bookmarks and history into a navigation drawer (by Florian Edelmann)
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The mystery thickens...

Neitsab said:
Thanks, this one does indeed mention 1.0.2! However, where does the changelog entry in the app's "Settings > About" screen come from then?
The mystery thickens...
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https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_CMFileManager/blob/cm-11.0/res/raw/changelog

Lethargy said:
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_CMFileManager/blob/cm-11.0/res/raw/changelog
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Damn it, I would never have looked at this folder!! What does res/raw stand for? Anyway, thanks a lot Lethargy, mystery solved

Neitsab said:
Damn it, I would never have looked at this folder!! What does res/raw stand for? Anyway, thanks a lot Lethargy, mystery solved
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resources -> raw text

Lethargy said:
resources -> raw text
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Makes sense Is it a recurring part in any Android app (I'm no dev so pardon the naivety of my question(s))? Still, I believe think they could update that CHANGELOG.md file at some point, that would clear up some confusion...
Do you know of any other good free/libre file manager? Although this one quite pleased me when I discovered Cyanogenmod a few weeks ago (I'm pretty new to Android, just got my first droid phone last month), which is why I wanted to install it on my current OmniROM, it doesn't seem to be actively developed. I'm just wondering which features I could have a need for in the near future that this file manager doesn't offer... Thanks.

I normally use CM App Installer from the play store to get the file manager and the torch app
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Neitsab said:
Makes sense Is it a recurring part in any Android app (I'm no dev so pardon the naivety of my question(s))? Still, I believe think they could update that CHANGELOG.md file at some point, that would clear up some confusion...
Do you know of any other good free/libre file manager? Although this one quite pleased me when I discovered Cyanogenmod a few weeks ago (I'm pretty new to Android, just got my first droid phone last month), which is why I wanted to install it on my current OmniROM, it doesn't seem to be actively developed. I'm just wondering which features I could have a need for in the near future that this file manager doesn't offer... Thanks.
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In this case it's raw text, but you can put images in there as well (any files in fact). Files in res/raw won't be processed/compiled, it'll just be added to the package.
For example, in CMFileManager the changelog (excerpt):
Code:
Version 1.0.2
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* move bookmarks and history into a navigation drawer (by Florian Edelmann)
If you wanted to use that in strings.xml you would have to put them in <string> tags:
Code:
<string name="changelog">Version 1.0.2
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* move bookmarks and history into a navigation drawer (by Florian Edelmann)
</string>
(For those reading this in Tapatalk, you can't see the xml tags since it handles it differently)
In some cases it can cause issues, and it's sometimes it's better not to clog up strings.xml with a large amount of text (like this changelog). Also easier to modify in some cases (again, like a changelog).
I use Root Explorer, but it's a paid app. There's a free version but afaik it can't modify files which need root access.

abundantmussel said:
I normally use CM App Installer from the play store to get the file manager and the torch app
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Nice, thanks for the tip this looks interesting! However, as the author says in the app description he builds them himself when he has time to do so. Therefore pulling them from a current nightly or latest M release (as Lethargy mentioned) seems to be as good (and that is one less person to rely upon). I also wanted to replace omniROM's Launcher3 by CM's Trebuchet, so I'll have a go at it (thanks to MultiROM ).
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I use Root Explorer, but it's a paid app. There's a free version but afaik it can't modify files which need root access.
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Thanks for your explanations, I better understand now.
Concerning the file manager, I'm looking specifically for free/libre software app (as in "open source", but I don't like this expression and prefer to stick to Richard Stallman's definition). A search in F-Droid didn't turn in that many results, so that's why I was asking "at large"... I know many apps on the Play Store are libre software, but because the store doesn't mention their license it gets pretty tricky to find them. I try to always favour free/libre apps when I can.

Neitsab said:
Thanks for your explanations, I better understand now.
Concerning the file manager, I'm looking specifically for free/libre software app (as in "open source", but I don't like this expression and prefer to stick to Richard Stallman's definition). A search in F-Droid didn't turn in that many results, so that's why I was asking "at large"... I know many apps on the Play Store are libre software, but because the store doesn't mention their license it gets pretty tricky to find them. I try to always favour free/libre apps when I can.
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If you ever want anything explained feel free to ask me in a PM
I'm not too sure of any others then. :silly: I'd just stick to CM File Manager if you specifically want a decent one that's open source. I just prefer Root Explorer over CM File Manager since it's a little better for root file management and it can access SMB (so I can access files on my PC without bothering to plug in my USB cable so often).
Maybe look around XDA for one.

Lethargy said:
If you ever want anything explained feel free to ask me in a PM
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Sure, will do. Thanks for the very amicable offer, I must admit I often find myself quite lost within the Android realm
I'm not too sure of any others then. :silly: I'd just stick to CM File Manager if you specifically want a decent one that's open source. I just prefer Root Explorer over CM File Manager since it's a little better for root file management and it can access SMB (so I can access files on my PC without bothering to plug in my USB cable so often).
Maybe look around XDA for one.
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Makes sense. Well for now I'm indeed fine with CMFM, and I've found a few alternatives thanks to http://alternativeto.net/software/open-manager/?license=opensource&platform=android (still can't post links sorry okay, now it looks like I can, that's nice). XDA forums are such a great resource for anything mobile/telephony related! It is rare that a single website gathers the biggest part of a development community. So great.
Anyway, thanks for your replies!

Does it work on Lollipop?

[Q] Locally-Stored Android App

I am new to the app scene. I was curious if there was a way to store apps locally, without the need of sales/Play Store/Amazon Store/etc.
I am just looking at storing it locally on a phone, or possibly a tablet, to show to potential clients. And also for portfolio purposes, down the road.
Again, I am a self-professed "noob", so all help is appreciated.
Thank you.

rkariff said:
I am new to the app scene. I was curious if there was a way to store apps locally, without the need of sales/Play Store/Amazon Store/etc.
I am just looking at storing it locally on a phone, or possibly a tablet, to show to potential clients. And also for portfolio purposes, down the road.
Again, I am a self-professed "noob", so all help is appreciated.
Thank you.
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unless it is your personal app, you will need to get it from one of the stores at some point.
some apps can be downloaded by other means, but that is highly frowned upon, and against the rules to even discuss here (so please dont comment back on it).
if your device is rooted, you could use an app like titanium to make a backup of all the apps. then they would be saved locally, but i dont know how compatible that backup would be if you tried to restore it on other devices.
i would think if its a paid app, there is likely some entitlement verification coded into the app. so if it cant verify through one of the stores, it likely wont work properly if at all.

It would be apps that I build. So it would be for my own personal use. Like I said, it's to show potential clients. I would be using it to show how an app works, as a display to the client.
It will be my work. And it will be strictly for my clients.
All help is appreciated.
Thanks.

rkariff said:
It would be apps that I build. So it would be for my own personal use. Like I said, it's to show potential clients. I would be using it to show how an app works, as a display to the client.
It will be my work. And it will be strictly for my clients.
All help is appreciated.
Thanks.
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once you install an app on any device, from any source, you can use
1.apk extractor
2.es file explorer
to have the apk file, which can then be run on other devices as an installer.
or, you could dowbnload the apk straight from google play, search how with the search button.

Ok help me understand this.
It will be your app. One you make for your clients. which would mean your doing all the coding and building of the app, But you dont know how to store a simple apk on your device?

zelendel said:
Ok help me understand this.
It will be your app. One you make for your clients. which would mean your doing all the coding and building of the app, But you dont know how to store a simple apk on your device?
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Yea, that was kind of confusing me too.
If you build the app, you can store and show it on any device its compatible.
I must be missing the issue here.
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Yeah, like I said, I am completely new to this. I haven't even developed an app yet. I just wanted to visually, in my head, figure out how to display it to clients. I have clients. It's just a matter of developing apps, as far as coding.
I'm sorry if my questions are either dumb or easily answered. Thanks for all the help, though.
Regards.

rkariff said:
Yeah, like I said, I am completely new to this. I haven't even developed an app yet. I just wanted to visually, in my head, figure out how to display it to clients. I have clients. It's just a matter of developing apps, as far as coding.
I'm sorry if my questions are either dumb or easily answered. Thanks for all the help, though.
Regards.
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OK man then you are getting way ahead of yourself. First your gonna need to learn a few programing languages. Like Java and C+. Hell I would even start by reading these forums for a while as you seem like you really have no idea what your getting into.

zelendel said:
OK man then you are getting way ahead of yourself. First your gonna need to learn a few programing languages. Like Java and C+. Hell I would even start by reading these forums for a while as you seem like you really have no idea what your getting into.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Thanks for all your help, guys.