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Samsung to directly sell unlocked Verizon GS3

http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/10/...-feature-unlockable-bootloader-599-price-tag/
Also spotted at Supercurio's twitter. https://twitter.com/supercurio
Now to decide if it is worth returning this one and just paying full price for an unlocked one.

buur11 said:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/10/...-feature-unlockable-bootloader-599-price-tag/
Also spotted at Supercurio's twitter. https://twitter.com/supercurio
Now to decide if it is worth returning this one and just paying full price for an unlocked one.
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I'll be putting mine up on ebay, getting the unlocked one.

Was just about to post this. Wonder if this will aid in the bootloader issue as it atands. I don't have to he money for a 600 dollar phone haha.
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wow... this better not fly. how does their original statement about keeping their network secure apply to the rest of us then?

I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. If any of us had known this was the way things were going to play out we would have held out for this one in the first place. This is really just unbelievable. First we are led to believe our SG3 is going to be the same as the rest, only to find out we have a locked boot loader, now they dangle a $600 "developer" edition in front of us after most people interested in the developer aspect have already pre ordered the regular one? Am I the only one who is really ticked off about this?

Good for Samsung, Verizon still sucks. If I had $600 I would buy one.

I assume this device would ship minus the ongoing wifi notification?

I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. If any of us had known this was the way things were going to play out we would have held out for this one in the first place. This is really just unbelievable. First we are led to believe our SG3 is going to be the same as the rest, only to find out we have a locked boot loader, now they dangle a $600 "developer" edition in front of us after most people interested in the developer aspect have already pre ordered the regular one? Am I the only one who is really ticked off about this?
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Yep, this honestly just made me even more mad at them. Why can't they just give us an unlock tool just like htc where its in their system?

Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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Not at all, it will just get us unlocked faster most likely.

I can't imagine it will... there will probably be a very small percentage of people who will own them so not really a huge point to dev for it. Hopefully it can help unlock though.

This is ridiculous.
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Div033 said:
Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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I'm worried this will set us back. Why mess with locked if you can just buy unlocked? Except not all of us are gonna be able to just eBay ours to buy this, whenever its actually released. I'm hoping the devs don't abandon this project.

Well, I think developers would like to test out encrypting the bootloader, so it should DEFINITELY come with a tool to enable encryption of the bootloader. And it should also allow them to disable the encryption afterwards obviously... right?
Hopefully Samsung will do the right thing and leave a loophole for us.

I am slated to receive my SGS3 via FedEx tomorrow. I am currently a customer with Sprint, and I had planned to drop Sprint for Verizon upon activating this new phone. I am seriously having second thoughts now.
The biggest reason for choosing the SGS3 for me was because historically, Sammy hasn't restricted their devices by locking the bootloaders. I came from using two EVO devices (4G and 3D), which had increasingly difficult-to-crack bootloaders. Though I eventually achieved S-OFF with both devices, I wanted to support a company whose track record indicated community with developers, not antagonizing us.
I knew I wanted to drop Sprint, and I will never, ever consider AT&T again. So, I have my pick of two carriers to choose, and I chose Verizon based on their LTE network which is both new and fast in my area. I will probably hold my phone unopened and unactivated for a couple of days until I decide.

lblacklol said:
I'm worried this will set us back. Why mess with locked if you can just buy unlocked? Except not all of us are gonna be able to just eBay ours to buy this, whenever its actually released. I'm hoping the devs don't abandon this project.
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I don't think they will. I've been going back and forth with keeping the phone or taking my chances with Sprint. I just got the phone today and decided I'll keep it on Verizon.
I think that there aren't many people out there ready to shell out 600 bucks for a phone. After all, look at how many "unlocked" phones you can buy, but yet people still get the contract phones. I have to agree with the other posters about how if anything, it will help us out with the locked phones. Who knows, maybe it's as simple as using the odin tool to flash a backup of an unlocked phone....considering they are probably the same model numbers.

itsmefu said:
Good for Samsung, Verizon still sucks. If I had $600 I would buy one.
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they both suck if you ask me. they should have had this option available before everybody preordered one
Kipland007 said:
wow... this better not fly. how does their original statement about keeping their network secure apply to the rest of us then?
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i agree. this better not fly is right. verizon says its compromises security in the network and yet this happens. sammy and verizon are all about the money anymore screw both of them
blockhead42 said:
I'll be putting mine up on ebay, getting the unlocked one.
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value is going to go way way down lol

tonu42 said:
Not at all, it will just get us unlocked faster most likely.
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Hope you are right. I hope we could take the unlocked Verizon bootloader from the dev phone and have the guy with JTAG equip flash it to this phone. I am clueless on this stuff but would be cool if it worked. I know I'd pay him to do it for sure.
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Once again guys let's not get our undies in a bundle. This could be the best news for us in the last few days. We might be able to use this...
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This is crazy, but I do not feel like returning mine and then going to buy another one. Why can't samsung just release an unlock code or something for everyone? You really want to get some customers PO'd do what exactly samsung is doing. I know once I am due for an upgrade again samsung will be down low on my list right above moto if they do this and do not give those of us who bought it an option to unlock.

For those on Verizon who are upset about the locked bootloader...

On a whim I sent Verizon a message asking about the locked bootloader for the Verizon
My original message just to clear things up:
I just recently received my Galaxy S3 which I pre-ordered from
Verizon. I was wondering if you could provide me with any
information on the locked boot loader that Verizon put on my
device. Is there a way I could unlock it? Can you provide a key or
a tool that I could use to unlock my device? I know that Samsung
released a developer edition for the Galaxy S3 but I am confused
on why Verizon would maintain their lock on the phone.
Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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And got an interesting reply back:
Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless about the boot loader for the Galaxy S3. I know this may be frustrating but there will be a solution soon coming.
Samsung will be releasing a software update to unlock your device.
Right now, we do not have a date for the release but it shall be soon.
Verizon Wireless appreciates you as a customer and your patience in this matter.
Have a great weekend!
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Can anyone else back this up? This is the first I am hearing of it.
Edit: Screenshot of the email mentioned above.
http://i.imgur.com/ULA4X.png
Edit 2: Verizon just got in contact with me and confirmed that their previous message that they sent me (see above) was indeed about the global usage unlock and not about the boot loader. He also said that there is no work being done right now to unlock the boot loader on the SGS3. Although, he did suggest that they may revisit their decision down the road (as in several months from now) and possibly work up a patch.

I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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CBMC said:
I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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Exactly, although I think this is a bit better than Panda saying he has the unlock keys. Still, not going to get my hopes quite yet...

They want you to think the upcoming update is a unlock, but it will really lock it down even tighter! LoL
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Did anyone ever think Verizon locked down this phone because they want to push their variant as an enterprise device? This is the only one I believe that came with the vpnclient app.
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CBMC said:
I am intrigued, yet highly skeptical.
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This.

Why would Sammy sell a dev variant if verizon is just going to unlock their phones? Just doesn't make sense

show screenshot of the email please

You think maybe all the negative press combined with their inability to stop Samsung from releasing the dev version that could be a key to unlocking anyways which would make them look even worse and heavy handed combined to make them want to change it.
Honestly just hopeful thinking, but it would sure make me a happy camper.
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If Verizon wants to heavily compete with the dev edition, they will release an unlock tool

I emailed Verizon a few days ago. I got the standard "we're looking into it" response.
Today I got an email from them saying that they were happy to hear my issue was resolved. I figured this was just their ****ty customer service but now I might be in conspiracy mode.
Dun dun dun
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Juicy92 said:
If Verizon wants to heavily compete with the dev edition, they will release an unlock tool
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There will be no competition, at least from a sales standpoint. Verizon will easily outsell Samsung. 99% of people either don't care about a locked bootloader or can't afford/justify the unsubsidized pricing. If they did unlock it, it would be a pr move. (or legal) Now I definitely expect the dev model to attract higher prices on ebay, craigslist, etc.
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Maybe the email was just a stupid CSR who thought you were referring to SIM unlocking. doesn't make sense that Samsung would be releasing that instead of Verizon though
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CBMC said:
There will be no competition, at least from a sales standpoint. Verizon will easily outsell Samsung. 99% of people either don't care about a locked bootloader or can't afford/justify the unsubsidized pricing. If they did unlock it, it would be a pr move. (or legal) Now I definitely expect the dev model to attract higher prices on ebay, craigslist, etc.
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This ^

AftermathLK said:
show screenshot of the email please
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As requested. All I did was black out my personal info. Sadly I'm under 10 posts so all I can do is attach the file. Lemme get to 10 and I can post a better one.

cordell12 said:
They want you to think the upcoming update is a unlock, but it will really lock it down even tighter! LoL
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I wouldn't be surprised about this.

Kipland007 said:
I emailed Verizon a few days ago. I got the standard "we're looking into it" response.
Today I got an email from them saying that they were happy to hear my issue was resolved. I figured this was just their ****ty customer service but now I might be in conspiracy mode.
Dun dun dun
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Maybe they made some progress...

killerabbit37 said:
As requested. All I did was black out my personal info. Sadly I'm under 10 posts so all I can do is attach the file. Lemme get to 10 and I can post a better one.
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Thank you, now I'm curious lol

killerabbit37 said:
Maybe they made some progress...
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I guess then the question will be who gets the bounty? Donation to Verizon anyone?
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Kipland007 said:
I guess then the question will be who gets the bounty? Donation to Verizon anyone?
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me for putting the pressure on them with my petition. j/k

So if you return your gs4 due to the locked bootloader..

I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?

I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.

I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.

Thermalwolf said:
Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock

mattdm said:
If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "

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wttisme said:
Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol

As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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SysAdmNj said:
Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold

cl_l said:
Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will

SysAdmNj said:
They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.

Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.

mattdm said:
No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.

No S5 Root yet -- Frustration

Heyy ya'll, I am so frustrated!! I have bought the Verizon S5 with hopes to get it unlocked soon, but nothing is there!! This is so frustrating -- I signed up with verizon and pay $150/month for 6 gigz with all else unlimited, but the root is one thing that I was looking for. It is frustrating because I probably should've gotten myself a Sprint/Tmobile that was unrooted before even release and it is cheaper!! Ugh!!! By the time unlock happens, a new S series will come out!
Thanks for listening to me! I feel better

vladtess said:
Heyy ya'll, I am so frustrated!! I have bought the Verizon S5 with hopes to get it unlocked soon, but nothing is there!! This is so frustrating -- I signed up with verizon and pay $150/month for 6 gigz with all else unlimited, but the root is one thing that I was looking for. It is frustrating because I probably should've gotten myself a Sprint/Tmobile that was unrooted before even release and it is cheaper!! Ugh!!! By the time unlock happens, a new S series will come out!
Thanks for listening to me! I feel better
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Sell it on Swappa, and buy yourself an M8.

vladtess said:
Heyy ya'll, I am so frustrated!! I have bought the Verizon S5 with hopes to get it unlocked soon, but nothing is there!! This is so frustrating -- I signed up with verizon and pay $150/month for 6 gigz with all else unlimited, but the root is one thing that I was looking for. It is frustrating because I probably should've gotten myself a Sprint/Tmobile that was unrooted before even release and it is cheaper!! Ugh!!! By the time unlock happens, a new S series will come out!
Thanks for listening to me! I feel better
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You bought a phone without root to begin with. I understand your frustrated but if you wanted a phone with root you should of done homework beforehand. if you wanted the S5 specifically with root, then you probably should switch carriers.
I'm not trying to be rude, its just this post really has no meaning. Your frustrations are just like many, but there is no reason to just start a post on it. Be like a lot of people and be patient. if its going to be rooted one day it will, if you really do not want to wait go an by a phone that is already rooted and not one hoping to eventually be rooted/unlocked because the fact it is just may not happen.

Should of got a developer edition phone...

Let the man vent. We all feel his pain.
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dlscott1111 said:
Let the man vent. We all feel his pain.
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Yeah i totally understand you're frustrating OP. I had the AT&T S5 worth no root and i sold it to get the Tmobile version and now im rooted. If that option wasnt available i would have bought another phone. Root is a must for me.
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Don't take the advice of buying an M8...know 3 people that have it and my S5 still unrooted is better than theirs with ANY rom...just wait we will get there. The camera alone and battery life alone us worth it.
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They're said:
Don't take the advice of buying an M8...know 3 people that have it and my S5 still unrooted is better than theirs with ANY rom...just wait we will get there. The camera alone and battery life alone us worth it.
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Yet there are others who have switched and love the M8. Each person is different and should make a decision they feel right with. Many folk are happy with the S5, even without root. For others the lack of root is a deal breaker.
I personally love my M8 as much as I did my S3. I didn't go for the S5 because of Knox and the locked bootloader. That's me though and I would not deign to denigrate anyone simply because their priorities are different than my own.
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hey guys
im asking for a guy here at work.
he just got an S5 a few days ago and was wondering if theres a way to tell if its a Dev edition or if its the normal retail. im not finind anything that says if theres a firmware version or somehting in about phone that will tell you.

blackmeth said:
hey guys
im asking for a guy here at work.
he just got an S5 a few days ago and was wondering if theres a way to tell if its a Dev edition or if its the normal retail. im not finind anything that says if theres a firmware version or somehting in about phone that will tell you.
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Dev editions come only in black right?
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warriorpluto said:
Dev editions come only in black right?
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Men should only own black phones. White looks too girly

There are more than enough "no root" threads to air your frustration in...no need to create more threads
Thanks
FNSM

[Q] How to check if Nexus 5 is legit? (real or fake)

Okay, so this is a strange question, but I think that it is worth asking. Are there such things as "fake" Nexus 5's out there? I've heard of all the fake Galaxys out there, but I've never heard of a fake Nexus yet. I'm asking because I am set to buy a white one off of Craigslist tomorrow for $200 and due to my inexperience with this device I figured I'd ask my peers here at XDA. And if you have any hints or tips of what to look for before I buy it, it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance guys!
If you think it would help I can post or PM a link.

I've never heard of a fake nexus 5, and I doubt what you're about to buy is a fake. That said, even the fake devices (iPhone, Galaxy, etc...) out there are obviously fake, and if you've seen a real one in person, you'll be able to tell. If you're that concerned, just download a system/hardware info app and it'll tell you exactly what hardware you have. I just looked in the play store and found this one- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.hardwareinfo
Anyway, I seriously doubt you have anything to sorry about. Post the link.

Thanks!
_MetalHead_ said:
I've never heard of a fake nexus 5, and I doubt what you're about to buy is a fake. That said, even the fake devices (iPhone, Galaxy, etc...) out there are obviously fake, and if you've seen a real one in person, you'll be able to tell. If you're that concerned, just download a system/hardware info app and it'll tell you exactly what hardware you have. I just looked in the play store and found this one- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.hardwareinfo
Anyway, I seriously doubt you have anything to sorry about. Post the link.
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Cool, like I said I'm kind of foreign to this device so I didn't know if it was even a possibility so I thought that I had better ask before I "waste" 200 bucks on this thing. I've actually never seen a Nexus 5 in person lol but I like the idea of owning a straight up Google device for many reasons. Anyways thanks a ton for getting back to me on this subject... I was at a loss. The other thing I thought of doing is running the IMEI through a site I found www.IMEI.info. I tested it on my Atrix HD a little while ago and it seemed pretty accurate.
Also here is the CL link: http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/mob/4876474220.html

FireWire22 said:
Cool, like I said I'm kind of foreign to this device so I didn't know if it was even a possibility so I thought that I had better ask before I "waste" 200 bucks on this thing. I've actually never seen a Nexus 5 in person lol but I like the idea of owning a straight up Google device for many reasons. Anyways thanks a ton for getting back to me on this subject... I was at a loss. The other thing I thought of doing is running the IMEI through a site I found www.IMEI.info. I tested it on my Atrix HD a little while ago and it seemed pretty accurate.
Also here is the CL link: http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/mob/4876474220.html
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Yeah, it looks legit. Honestly man, you have nothing to worry about. I actually find the concept of a kirf nexus to be pretty humerous. The only real concern is if it's stolen or not but since the ad says it was purchased from the play store, ask them to bring a proof of purchase. I've done that for people before. And ALWAYS put your SIM card in and test it before letting them walk away with your money.
All that said, you're buying an amazing device and you're going to love it. I buy a new phone every few months, and even though I have a 2014 Moto X and an iPhone 6, I still use my N5 regularly. I don't think I've ever kept/used a smartphone past the year mark before, but the N5 is really something special. So yeah, you're gonna be real happy with it.

That's awesome man and thanks again for all of your help. Its really assuring since it seems you're like me with these android devices lol. None of mine have ever lasted more than 6 months before I'm ready to sell one and start rooting and flashing away on something new. And I've always lurked all the forums on here so I knew where to come for such an off key question. Plus it gave me a good reason to look in the N5 development section
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Hey no prob bud, happy to help. I think we have a problem lol, I don't know how people can keep a smartphone for 2 years, seems crazy to me. I just got the Moto X and iPhone a couple months ago and I'm already planning on buying the Saygus V2. I will say this though, when the N5 does finally retire, I absolutely will not sell it. It's gonna go in the museum. There's just something about it that makes me want to hang on to it forever. I feel like this is most "nexus" of all the nexus phones. Does that make any sense??? Lol

FireWire22 said:
Okay, so this is a strange question, but I think that it is worth asking. Are there such things as "fake" Nexus 5's out there? I've heard of all the fake Galaxys out there, but I've never heard of a fake Nexus yet. I'm asking because I am set to buy a white one off of Craigslist tomorrow for $200 and due to my inexperience with this device I figured I'd ask my peers here at XDA. And if you have any hints or tips of what to look for before I buy it, it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance guys!
If you think it would help I can post or PM a link.
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Found also this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus5info

zagorteney said:
Found also this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus5info
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Wow! I would have never thought that I could an app like the ones you've both found. Thanks, I love the community on XDA, always helpful! I'm going to pick it up at 230 EST today and I'll be sure to use the methods you've both shown me. Wish me luck.
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Crack flashin'!
_MetalHead_ said:
Hey no prob bud, happy to help. I think we have a problem lol, I don't know how people can keep a smartphone for 2 years, seems crazy to me. I just got the Moto X and iPhone a couple months ago and I'm already planning on buying the Saygus V2. I will say this though, when the N5 does finally retire, I absolutely will not sell it. It's gonna go in the museum. There's just something about it that makes me want to hang on to it forever. I feel like this is most "nexus" of all the nexus phones. Does that make any sense??? Lol
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Haha, I wouldn't say we have a problem, but my ex certainly would and has said that. And I definitely don't know how someone could make it 2 yrs, I always do prepaid monthly stuff (atm, Cricket) so it makes it really easy to "flip phones" on Craigslist and keep things interesting for myself. I honestly change so much that I always forget to change what devices I'm using until well after they are gone lol. And WOW, that was the first I've heard of that Saygus so I looked it up and yeah.. I'm speechless. Anyways, this Nexus 5 does seem like the most Googlesque Nexus so far but I've only tinkered with its predecessors. The closest I've come to owning one otherwise was last Winter when I bought an AT&T Optimus G and I LOVED it so I now I really can't wait to swoop up my N5 in a few hours. Anyways... I'm sure I'll see ya around in the forums and if you have any advice on some fun stable ROMS plz PM with me the info.

Why fake a old and cheap device?

I don't know? Maybe bc there's s million fake S4's out there on craigslist and that's an even older and cheaper phone lol... Why ask why?
Anyways, I picked it up earlier and used the Nexus 5 info app and everything is good.. Even under warranty still! I can't keep my hands off the thing, I love it!
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How's your battery life?

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dicecuber said:
How's your battery life?
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Ha, battery life is not as bad as I expected to be honest. I read a lot about the device before I even thought about buying one and from the reviews I read on multiple sites I was kind of worried that it would be TERRIBLE. But actually not too bad considering that I haven't let the screen turn off much since I picked it up earlier. I also expected worse battery life from the sheer performance of this phone.. it is LIGHTNING fast compared to my old G2 and especially my Atrix HD. Tomorrow I'll post a SS of a normal days battery stats if you'd like.

dicecuber said:
How's your battery life?
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You don't have to appease dicecuber. If you stay on the forums for awhile you'll learn to ignore him.
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FireWire22 said:
I don't know? Maybe bc there's s million fake S4's out there on craigslist and that's an even older and cheaper phone lol... Why ask why?
Anyways, I picked it up earlier and used the Nexus 5 info app and everything is good.. Even under warranty still! I can't keep my hands off the thing, I love it!
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Sweeeeeeet!

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Sweeeeeeet!
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Hell yeah! I couldnt be more pleased, and from I can tell he never even rooted it. He was some straight edge, preppy, lawyer lookin dude but he was hip to forums here. Said once upon a time he lurked around here lol, he says hes going to order a One Plus One now. Anyways, its in mint condition and I love it!!!
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You don't have to appease dicecuber. If you stay on the forums for awhile you'll learn to ignore him.
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And ok, I've been all over different devices here. Every forum has a good ole boy like DC lol.. And don't worry I'll be on these forums for a long time with as much as I love this thing!!! But thanks for the warning haha.
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jd1639 said:
You don't have to appease dicecuber. If you stay on the forums for awhile you'll learn to ignore him.
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Huh?

FireWire22 said:
Hell yeah! I couldnt be more pleased, and from I can tell he never even rooted it. He was some straight edge, preppy, lawyer lookin dude but he was hip to forums here. Said once upon a time he lurked around here lol, he says hes going to order a One Plus One now. Anyways, its in mint condition and I love it!!!
And ok, I've been all over different devices here. Every forum has a good ole boy like DC lol.. And don't worry I'll be on these forums for a long time with as much as I love this thing!!! But thanks for the warning haha.
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Glad you like it man, it's an AMAZING device. Any plans on how you're going to mod it? I'm keeping mine on stock KitKat and use Xposed modules to customize it to my liking. I don't know how you feel about Lollipop, but I prefer KitKat by a wide margin.

_MetalHead_ said:
Glad you like it man, it's an AMAZING device. Any plans on how you're going to mod it? I'm keeping mine on stock KitKat and use Xposed modules to customize it to my liking. I don't know how you feel about Lollipop, but I prefer KitKat by a wide margin.
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Yeah really is a fantastic device.. It doesn't really compare to any of the many I've owned! As far as development goes and versions of android, I'm kind of up in the air. I'm not even sure if I want to root it yet(I've only unlocked bootloader so far). I love the look of the official Lollipoop lol but it sounds like ppl say it is WAY harder on the battery life and I think they may be right. I was thinking about just down grading back to KK, but I'm leaning more towards rooting it and flashing a stable KK custom ROM and just theme it to Lollipoop. Got any insight for me on all this?
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Yeah really is a fantastic device.. It doesn't really compare to any of the many I've owned! As far as development goes and versions of android, I'm kind of up in the air. I'm not even sure if I want to root it yet(I've only unlocked bootloader so far). I love the look of the official Lollipoop lol but it sounds like ppl say it is WAY harder on the battery life and I think they may be right. I was thinking about just down grading back to KK, but I'm leaning more towards rooting it and flashing a stable KK custom ROM and just theme it to Lollipoop. Got any insight for me on all this?
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I don't even do custom ROMs anymore, I'm all about stock. All three of my devices are running stock KitKat, though my N7 does have a custom kernel. I use Xposed for any little features or minor theming I do. I'm sure there are a bunch of great ROMs out there (I used to be a massive fan of anything Scrosler put out), but for me nothing beats the dependability of stock.