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Hello. Since this is my 1st post as "M4TGS" few words about me: I'm new MT4GS owner and new Android user, coming from WinMo world (been using PocketPCs since WinMo 2003 SE) so if something sounds noobish please forgive me, I haven't had Android phone before (or linux on my PCs).
Please correct me if/where I'm wrong.
My phone is:
LOCKED
S-ON
HBOOT-1.45.0013
with T-Mobile's ROM full of useless junk (I knew that would be the case when I bought it, I had WinMo phones from T-Mo before and they always were loaded with garbage, which I always flashed with modded ROMs, I don't know why I just assumed all Android phones are easy to root and flash shouldve done some reading here first...)
So, after reading a lot of threads here today it seems that:
1 - I cannot change my ROM (due to S-ON and bootloader version that hasn't been cracked yet), is that correct?
2 - I cannot get rid of T-Mobile's junk from my stock rom either, because even if I use the "temp-perma-SuperUser" method, delete the "bloatware" apk, the bootloader will do crc check on next boot and restore them all again, is that correct?
3 - Assuming I understood 1 and 2 correctly, is there a way to stop the "bloatware" from starting at boot? For WinMo 6.x we had few different utilities that basically work on the phone similar to batch scripts on Windows, and a lot of automation could be achieved with those; if there is something like this for Android could it be automated to stop some of the bloatware and remove their shortcuts from menu at every boot?
(i.e. T-Mobile's-specific apps such as "My Account" or "Visual Voicemail", specially the latter bugs me the most because my canadian provider Wind doesn't have Visual voicemail and I can't just tap on "voicemail" without being nagged to enable visual voicemail every time I tap on voicemail in notifications, its so annoying)
4 - How on earth do I make videocalls with this phone and ROM? (yes I searched forum for that and found "Qik" which is not what I'm asking about - I can install i.e. Skype and it'll serve me better than this Qik)
On my last WinMo phone I just tapped the "camera" icon in the phone app and it did videocall using data connection. I can't find anything like it (nor anything pointing to videocall or datacall) on this phone, what am I missing?
Any answers appreciated, TIA!
Well ill just start by saying 1 is wrong so you might want to do some more reading chief, i didnt get through the rest of your post yet just wanted to say your first thought is wrong
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Thanks. It seems like you're right, as I just found in post from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657414
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
MT4GS said:
Thanks. It seems like you're right, as I just found in post from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657414
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
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Couldnt tell ya man, maybe it does it by gmail addresses? I never use my ffc, i have a iTurd for facetime thats it. My android is my pocket PC lol so mostly all text based things
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"iTurd" lol certain Steve blowjobs must be screaming in his grave for such sacrilege!
MT4GS said:
"iTurd" lol certain Steve blowjobs must be screaming in his grave for such sacrilege!
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I couldnt pass a pair of brand new 4th gens for 2 hundred man, only reason they were bought is because i dont live with my 2 year old daughter so we facetime when i dont see her
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strapped365 said:
I couldnt pass a pair of brand new 4th gens for 2 hundred man, only reason they were bought is because i dont live with my 2 year old daughter so we facetime when i dont see her
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Man, seems like same case here, my sonny is bit older than your dottie, but he too lives with his mother... that's my only reason for videocall need in this phone
MT4GS said:
Man, seems like same case here, my sonny is bit older than your dottie, but he too lives with his mother... that's my only reason for videocall need in this phone
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Yeah hmm maybe find a friend that has a phone with a ffc and video call and see if once you add all the info to the address book it gives you the option to video call. I would say google talk has video call but its trash. Then again you might have to use a 3rd party app like qik, thats what comes stock right
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I know exactly what you mean. I came over to this phone about 2 months ago from a Touch Pro 2. Boy the difference is figuring out how to get around the security on it.
Anyway, just use HTC's unlock tool assuming you are on the newest software version. If you're not, then update to the newest. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Flash Clockworkmod recovery. Then just flash superuser through it. This will give you root and the ability to delete the bloatware.
You'll still be S-on, but will be able to flash any custom ROM you want, you just have to push the kernel separately through ADB instead of in a nice neat package.
Yes HappyKhicken it seems much more work to customize it than it was with any Windows Mobile. Not that it would discourage me its just an observation.
I'm still reading around, I have just found out about the "wire trick" to make radio S-OFF, so I want to learn as much as possible before I do anything other than hard reset.
Since you also had TP2 can you explain to me how do you make a videocall here?
I can't figure out how to make videocall at all
If you remember in WinMo (well, depending on ROM and dialer canvas version you had of course) when you tap phone there was the icon that looked like one of those old Logitech round webcams, when you tap this icon it switched to "videocall" to the person you were dialing, and if this person didn't have video capability it switch back to "voice". Can't find anything like this here.
Also probably stupid question: is it possible to restore unlocked/s-off phone back to being locked with s-on and full of junk stock rom? (in case I would need to send it back to htc for warranty repair or replacement, I don't have T-Mobile's option with Asurion insurance since I'm not their customer and I'm in Canada)
thx
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Anyway, just use HTC's unlock tool assuming you are on the newest software version. If you're not, then update to the newest. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Flash Clockworkmod recovery. Then just flash superuser through it. This will give you root and the ability to delete the bloatware..
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OK. I bit the bullet, went to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
run the HTC unlock, and now my bootloader says ***UNLOCKED***
(this was easy-peasy, just somehow no one mentioned in htc unlock tool thread - or I didn't notice it - that an account on htcdev is needed, but I made some quick fake email acct and registered there with it, hopefully I won't need it again? I just realized I didn't save any info for these accts lol)
So, next step would be to flash recovery - either CWM or "Stock 1.55" as there are these 2 to choose from at fifth step on HTC Unlock Tool.
What are the difference between these two?
If I flash one of them now, can I flash the other one later?
I'm not going to flash any new ROM yet, I need to get accustomed to Android first, but I would want to get rid of some bloatware and T-Mobile-specific apps that came with stock ROM since I'm not on T-Mobile. I know I need to flash CWM or Stock Recovery to gain root access, but I don't know which one should I choose / what are the major difference / advantages / disadvantages ?
MT4GS said:
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
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Skype works very well on this phone. I've done videochat with a few friends, one of them using another Android, the other friend on an iPhone 4S. We were using Skype since that is a common software for us. Oh, I forgot, I also did Skype video chat using my MT4GS to another friend in Turkey, he was using his laptop. Great thing about Skype is it works on 4G or Wi-Fi (I have unlimited 4G data so I don't worry about it).
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Skype works very well on this phone. I've done videochat with a few friends, one of them using another Android, the other friend on an iPhone 4S. We were using Skype since that is a common software for us. Oh, I forgot, I also did Skype video chat using my MT4GS to another friend in Turkey, he was using his laptop. Great thing about Skype is it works on 4G or Wi-Fi (I have unlimited 4G data so I don't worry about it).
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Thanks. Yeah, I installed Skype from Google Play (I think Android Market was better name) and indeed it works great. I think sound quality is way better than Skype for Window Mobile, maybe it is better than 'regular voicecall' too, or so it seems.
But it came to me clear now, and I can't believe it, but despite most of Android 'smartphones' having front cameras, the OS itself doesn't have videocall capability built-in, am I correct?
It's kinda let down if true? because AFAIR even my old TyTN II (thats ancient 2007 model) and every other WinMo smartphone with front camera I had after that also had videocall built-in right there in the dialer
Good god it took me two days to realize I needed to reenable usb debugging after the bootloader unlocked. AJSNFLASKDA
thenpaxtongoes said:
Good god it took me two days to realize I needed to reenable usb debugging after the bootloader unlocked. AJSNFLASKDA
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OK... care to explain more, specially that you post the same comment in other thread (so I guess it is either important or spam)...
I'm sure I'm not the only noob to this phone and Android OS in general, so:
Why does the usb port need to be in debug mode and how do I start it if it is necessary?
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OK... care to explain more, specially that you post the same comment in other thread (so I guess it is either important or spam)...
I'm sure I'm not the only noob to this phone and Android OS in general, so:
Why does the usb port need to be in debug mode and how do I start it if it is necessary?
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To do many adb functions the device must be in debug mode.
The usb port itself isn't in debug mode, rather the whole device is.
In a very technical sense, a ROM is not 'polished' or 'finished' if it releases with usb debugging enabled - but I released mine that way because I use it so very often.
The setting is in:
Settings - Applications - Development
Sent from a digital distance.
Thank you Blue6IX for excellent explanation and thenpaxtongoes for the reminder
Now to root my unlocked phone:
volume down + power, to go into hboot, plug in usb, fire up HTC Unlocker Tool and install CWM or Stock recovery, but do I need to change on my phone's hboot menu screen down to Recovery first or do I keep it at default Fastboot to install one of the Recoveries?
Another question is which recovery to install? It seems CWM is the one to go with but what are the advantages/disadvantages of CWM vs Stock 1.55 recovery? TIA
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I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
MT4GS said:
RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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What I find the easiest to do is just use something like My Backup Pro or Titanium Backup to "freeze" the things I don't want, usually those things from T-Mobile or HTC that startup in the background but I never use. Like the Group Messaging stuff (there are 3 processes associated with that, I freeze all 3), the SWM-C process, T-Mobile ID (a caller-ID type thing you have to pay for). Yes, they still take up storage space but that is negligible, by freezing them they no longer are taking up processing/battery time.
MT4GS said:
RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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Here is the original thread that was started a long time ago. I have still found it useful on occassion. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222672&highlight=bloat
Okay, so I know this phone doesn't exactly win the spec war, but it's awesome and would make a fantastic rooted phone. Unfortunately there isn't a forum here on XDA for the device (either because it's too new or there isn't a demand for it)
Do you guys think a forum will be made for this device? It'd be nice to at least have a place to say what root methods DON'T work (I've tried a few)
Thanks for the help, XDA rules!
I second this. I am planning on buying a new phone and after researching numerous phones out there based on my tastes and constraints, I think this phone works very well (another is Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 2). One flaw that I heard is the amount of storage in this phone is around 4gb. Without a way to put apps on an external SD card (which I believe would require a custom ROM), the storage would probably fill up pretty quickly. So it'll be great if XDA opened a forum for this phone.
As a side note if anyone can point to other devices that fit my needs I would be grateful:
- Less than 4.2" screen (preferably 4").
- Android only
I don't have any financial constraints or any favorite companies.
Thanks!
What root method did you find worked? Did you try framaroot? Also have you found any Roms?
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bbradf44 said:
What root method did you find worked? Did you try framaroot? Also have you found any Roms?
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I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)
habitforming said:
I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)
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Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.
richardpwnsner said:
Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.[/QUOT
Anyone find a tethering ap that works?
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richardpwnsner said:
Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.[/QUOT
Anyone find a tethering ap that works?
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Do tethering apps need to be phone specific? I don't have data, but I'll let you know if I come across one.
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Bad news
I have created the recovery tree, and have created a recovery.img for this phone. ok now heres the bad news OUR lg optimus f3 has a stock 3.4 kernel with a locked bootloader. Even worse news is that 3.4 "locking" features a sha5 hash system for its image/partitions (recovery, boot, and bootloader). Even worse news there is no known (or atleast what i know or have heard) way to get around this. The phone will be forever locked until lg updates or allows said lock to be removed. I have flashed the recovery and have had no damage to my device but it just sticks at "unsecure recovery" and does a hard reset (factory restore) every time i try to play with it which is a huge flaw if you ask me.
I have hexedited the bootloader and found that there is indeed "juicy" strings within that may tell to a future unlock these strings being
-Device UnLock!, so Boot Success!!
-oem unlock
-ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode
Also these strings could just be defualt with all lg bootloaders meaning....there is no hope.
My phone is without a soul and I will never be buy lg again.
If anyone is able to get into fastboot
1. PM ME
2. run : fastboot oem unlock
Again root for this phone works great as long as you dont touch recovery, bootloader, or boot partitions
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I have created the recovery tree, and have created a recovery.img for this phone. ok now heres the bad news OUR lg optimus f3 has a stock 3.4 kernel with a locked bootloader. Even worse news is that 3.4 "locking" features a sha5 hash system for its image/partitions (recovery, boot, and bootloader). Even worse news there is no known (or atleast what i know or have heard) way to get around this. The phone will be forever locked until lg updates or allows said lock to be removed. I have flashed the recovery and have had no damage to my device but it just sticks at "unsecure recovery" and does a hard reset (factory restore) every time i try to play with it which is a huge flaw if you ask me.
I have hexedited the bootloader and found that there is indeed "juicy" strings within that may tell to a future unlock these strings being
-Device UnLock!, so Boot Success!!
-oem unlock
-ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode
Also these strings could just be defualt with all lg bootloaders meaning....there is no hope.
My phone is without a soul and I will never be buy lg again.
If anyone is able to get into fastboot
1. PM ME
2. run : fastboot oem unlock
Again root for this phone works great as long as you dont touch recovery, bootloader, or boot partitions
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Ugh. Thanks for the work. This is bad news indeed. I'll keep poking around and let you know if I find anything.
richardpwnsner said:
Ugh. Thanks for the work. This is bad news indeed. I'll keep poking around and let you know if I find anything.
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Out of curiosity, any chance Loki would work? I'd be willing to give it a go if there's a decent chance—still within the 14 day exchange window .
Will motochopper work on any carrier version of this phone? Thanks!
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Will motochopper work on any carrier version of this phone? Thanks!
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I've seen confirmations on three carriers (can't remember which ones off the top of my head, sorry [edit-well, T-Mobile and Virgin Mobile come to mind now]), so I'd assume the answer is yes. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone complain about adverse affects, so no reason not to try (though, grain of salt—I'm brand new to android).
For anyone that has this, how are the antennas on this phone?
I just ordered one from tmo and am hoping to get better reception at my house than from my Samsung or HTC.
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Steve5400 said:
For anyone that has this, how are the antennas on this phone?
I just ordered one from tmo and am hoping to get better reception at my house than from my Samsung or HTC.
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They seem better and with WIFI calling built in the phone hasn't skipped a beat.
Check my way!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2420178&highlight=rooting+lg+optimus+f3
I failed rooting my phone with Windows system, maybe cause I'm not familiar with the process or I was just to lazy, but it does work if you use motochopper. Try looking it up youtube. You could try my method, it should work on Jellybean 4.1.2!
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Out of curiosity, any chance Loki would work? I'd be willing to give it a go if there's a decent chance—still within the 14 day exchange window .
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BAHAHA me to man i think im down to 10 days. Im trying to get some attention but i need someone who knows little endian, and their way around bootloaders. Id be willing to donate to someone who can help me out, also to support the other 3 variants (if the aboot differs).
I have a recovery created also and a device tree (needs gpio support for kernel).
And to awnser your question, yes loki will work IF i can get the needed values so that when recovery/boot is read into memory that it overwrites the security check feature in aboot. If the wrong values are give you may end up with a brick (very slim chance)
My return window just closed . If it helps, you can pull the open source from LG's website and merge it with the android source. I also discovered an even easier solution: set up the LG Sync application, and select the "upgrade recovery option". Then, when it begins downloading, remove your phone, set Windows (or your relevant OS) to show hidden files and folders, and go the the Program Data folder. There should be something like "PHONEAX" under the LG Electronics folder that will contain the full stock kdz file when the download is complete.
It's really kind of surprising that there's absolutely no dev love out there for the F3. I suppose it's because the phone is entry level, but it's really not that bad but for the storage. I got it as a gift, so no complaints here—of course, if anyone wants to donate a Note or Galaxy gratis, I suppose I'd be willing to switch .
I had a Galaxy S4 from Verizon. I switched to T-Mobile Because believe it or not the network is stronger where I work. Also, there pricing on plans cannot be beat. But, I digress. The Galaxy S4 being a Verizon device never really functioned the way it was supposed to on T-Mobiles network. It was unlocked however was still useless for 4G LTE and while I could do better than edge in some places, those places were few and far between. I started to assess what it is I actually used my phone for these days. I'm not into modding with custom ROMS and kernels anymore and I'm not much of a multi-tasker either so I decided that I did not need the super power device anymore. The specs on this phone are perfect for what I need my phone to do. Its been a long time since I have gone beyond rooting to remove bloat and tether. I agree that the storage on this sucks. I don't understand why there are any devices anymore that come with less than 32gb internal. storage is the cheapest thing that can be added to a device and its not as though it uses much physical space. other than the storage I will say that I am impressed with the quality of this device and I don't know that I would even put this as low as "entry level device." I would say its more of a mid-grade device. I am also happy with the reception on this device and its nice to have a compact phone again that actually fits comfortably in my hand and on my belt.
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I had a Galaxy S4 from Verizon. I switched to T-Mobile Because believe it or not the network is stronger where I work. Also, there pricing on plans cannot be beat. But, I digress. The Galaxy S4 being a Verizon device never really functioned the way it was supposed to on T-Mobiles network. It was unlocked however was still useless for 4G LTE and while I could do better than edge in some places, those places were few and far between. I started to assess what it is I actually used my phone for these days. I'm not into modding with custom ROMS and kernels anymore and I'm not much of a multi-tasker either so I decided that I did not need the super power device anymore. The specs on this phone are perfect for what I need my phone to do. Its been a long time since I have gone beyond rooting to remove bloat and tether. I agree that the storage on this sucks. I don't understand why there are any devices anymore that come with less than 32gb internal. storage is the cheapest thing that can be added to a device and its not as though it uses much physical space. other than the storage I will say that I am impressed with the quality of this device and I don't know that I would even put this as low as "entry level device." I would say its more of a mid-grade device. I am also happy with the reception on this device and its nice to have a compact phone again that actually fits comfortably in my hand and on my belt.
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No argument here. I like it well enough, but I'm (1) a closet geek; and (2) a heavy multitasker, so given the option I'd prefer something with more screen space (I just graduated from law school, so I do a lot of reading on the go). As a phone, however, you really couldn't ask for more—the size otherwise pretty much perfect, it's relatively snappy with most applications, and once debloated the stock launcher is pretty good.
That being said, the second I see a safe way to deal with the bootloader pop up, I'm diving in, no question .
Decided to share my home screens.
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I am on my next to last day to exchange. Let me say that I love this phone except for the fact that AT&T has Carrier IQ installed and it can not be removed without rooting (at least on the 2 year contract one). There is a process to stop it and it's not that hard, except that it is a PITA to do it every time you reboot. If you forget to force stop, you are in the clutches of Carrier IQ. Also, I have doubts that even though it is stopped via a forced stop, that it is not residing somewhere else on the phone and still doing the nasties that it was designed to do. There is no sense in going over CIQ as there are a couple of threads already on the subject in reference to this phone and AT&T.
Unfortunately, I am stuck with AT&T and carrier swapping is not an option so the only option open to me right now is the phone.
So, is there a version of the LG G2 that is available for sale in the US that can be used on the AT&T network that does not have CIQ installed on it? Maybe the full sale priced one that AT&T sells? Or maybe a different one from Best Buy or someplace else? In a nut shell. Looking for a LG G2 that I can use on the US AT&T network that does not have CIQ installed.
I am new to this "smart phone" game but really am impressed with this phone and want to keep it, but in reality, unless I root it and void my warranty, this CIQ issue could be a killer for me. The reason is because I used to work at that big glass building at Fort Meade and know more than I want to about electronic data mining and collection. BTW, AT&T (both on line and store front), LG tech rep (store front), and LG (on line) all say that CIQ is not removable in the version that I have without rooting.
Any options that I am missing?
I don't think you have any other options friend. I'm also in a similar boat of having to return it tomorrow if I choose to do so. I think the full price one, or the one from best buy would be the same as they're all at&t branded so i'm sure they are all part of the exact same batch. There wouldn't be anything different between them.
I think I'm going to go ahead and root and disable it. There is no other phone that I think is this good, period.
Short answer, no. Long answer, your only option would be to buy the International or maybe Korean variants online and at full price and slap an AT&T SIM in it. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get LTE though.
I get the feeling this is not what you want to do, so if CIQ bothers you that much and you're not willing to root you're going to have to return it.
You might want to consider waiting for the Nexus 5, which will likely share at least some hardware characteristics of the G2.
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Any options that I am missing?
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Simple. Root. Easy and fixes the issue and more.
guys...its not that hard...just root it...install system tuner...disable 6 entries...done.
I have never rooted a phone. I do not know how or what is required. I am not computer illiterate so I think that this is something that I can do if I had instructions on how to do it. Where would I start to look for the process of rooting the phone?
What is required to do it?
Hate to loose the warranty on it but I guess that I can always return it to factory default (I think) if I had a problem in the future. I just like this phone too damned much to let it go.
NevetsDrassel said:
I have never rooted a phone. I do not know how or what is required. I am not computer illiterate so I think that this is something that I can do if I had instructions on how to do it. Where would I start to look for the process of rooting the phone?
What is required to do it?
Hate to loose the warranty on it but I guess that I can always return it to factory default (I think) if I had a problem in the future. I just like this phone too damned much to let it go.
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Now we're on to something!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887
You'll also want to read up on how to install and use ADB. There are some good guides out there that include videos.
The T-Mobile variant gives you the option of turning off CIQ. I was getting wakelocks from it, but since I've turned it off, it's been as quiet as a church mouse. Not sure if the radios are the same, I don't really know what AT&T uses.
Root it. And leave at&t as soon as it becomes an option because this won't be the last CIQ phone
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Semantics said:
The T-Mobile variant gives you the option of turning off CIQ. I was getting wakelocks from it, but since I've turned it off, it's been as quiet as a church mouse. Not sure if the radios are the same, I don't really know what AT&T uses.
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How do u turn it off?
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bgaccord said:
How do u turn it off?
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System settings, backup, collect diagnostics and uncheck the box.
Semantics said:
The T-Mobile variant gives you the option of turning off CIQ. I was getting wakelocks from it, but since I've turned it off, it's been as quiet as a church mouse. Not sure if the radios are the same, I don't really know what AT&T uses.
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Would like to know this as well.
Dchibro said:
Now we're on to something!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887
You'll also want to read up on how to install and use ADB. There are some good guides out there that include videos.
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Well, I read the links. It looks pretty straight forward. Bit confused on some things. On the phone, I can go directly to the "Developers Options" under the main menu and turn that function on or off at will. Why all the hum drum about going into the About Phone menu to the Software Version to hit it 8 to 10 times to get the Developers Options turned on? Also while watching the video on how to root it, I got a bit confused on the "shift right click, open a command window" at 2:08. I do not have that capability. Different OS maybe? Anyways, I can always get a command window through the Start Run menu.
If I root the phone, I know that I can restore it to it original stock based on the first sticky in this forum. However, someone indicated that even if you return it to stock, there will be indications that it was rooted. But I could not tell what version of the phone that he was referencing.
Do I/Should I back up anything first before I start? Not that much on the phone right now, just my Contacts, a couple of pictures, and some apps that I downloaded. Home screen setups and things like that.
m3lover1 said:
Would like to know this as well.
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See the post above yours.
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NevetsDrassel said:
Well, I read the links. It looks pretty straight forward. Bit confused on some things. On the phone, I can go directly to the "Developers Options" under the main menu and turn that function on or off at will. Why all the hum drum about going into the About Phone menu to the Software Version to hit it 8 to 10 times to get the Developers Options turned on? Also while watching the video on how to root it, I got a bit confused on the "shift right click, open a command window" at 2:08. I do not have that capability. Different OS maybe? Anyways, I can always get a command window through the Start Run menu.
If I root the phone, I know that I can restore it to it original stock based on the first sticky in this forum. However, someone indicated that even if you return it to stock, there will be indications that it was rooted. But I could not tell what version of the phone that he was referencing.
Do I/Should I back up anything first before I start? Not that much on the phone right now, just my Contacts, a couple of pictures, and some apps that I downloaded. Home screen setups and things like that.
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Apparntly the VZW variant shows the phone as rooted in about phone. I went through every single menu on the T-Mobile variant and I see nothing to reference that I have rooted my phone.
Oh that was it? I had that turned off when I set up the phone. Lol Thanks
Ok, so once its rooted, what do I do? Where do I delete the files to get rid of carrier iq?
Custom rom; no carrieriq. Besides didn't they change it so it's not that big a deal anymore?
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System settings, backup, collect diagnostics and uncheck the box.
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This is absolutely not listed in the Verizon version. Pretty sure the VS980 has CIQ too.
Sneaky punks... :/
Or just flash a custom stock rom that is debloated and has modded options preinstalled.
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See the post above yours.
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Apparntly the VZW variant shows the phone as rooted in about phone. I went through every single menu on the T-Mobile variant and I see nothing to reference that I have rooted my phone.
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You might want to double check the T-Mobile app. Under device health it says I'd the phone is rooted.
Hey everyone, just looking for advice mainly.
I just recently bought my M8 as I retired my DNA which I ran ViperDNA for the past couple of years. I am still on a grandfathered unlimited plan, thus the reason for creating a thread. I haven't been in depth with androids in quite a while. I simply rooted and rom'd my DNA, and left things.
A little background - obviously I have the M8 and unlimited data. I also have a macbook pro, and my old windows 7 laptop died out on me. And finally, I am not the most code savvy anymore and wish to keep things simple.
What I am looking for from my new phone is pretty simple. I am perfectly fine with most things stock on it. All I would really like to do is remove the tethering block, and possibly delete a bit of the bloatware that came with it.
From my reading, it looks like I need to root to be able to tether. If I root without flashing a custom rom, am I still able to update when they hit verizon? Will simply rooting my phone give me the options to remove bloatware?
If not, what other options do I have? I am passed the point of wanting to wipe my phone from time to time to update and such. I tend to keep everything on it, and it gets old having to re-personalize it to my liking.
Thanks in advance for any help.
I would say a good choice is root/unlock and install the Viper ROM for the verizon M8. This ROM will do OTA updates as they come out and does not require you to re-personalize. I have been running this ROM for several months now and have had no issues. Great solid ROM.
HollywoodTate said:
Hey everyone, just looking for advice mainly.
I just recently bought my M8 as I retired my DNA which I ran ViperDNA for the past couple of years. I am still on a grandfathered unlimited plan, thus the reason for creating a thread. I haven't been in depth with androids in quite a while. I simply rooted and rom'd my DNA, and left things.
A little background - obviously I have the M8 and unlimited data. I also have a macbook pro, and my old windows 7 laptop died out on me. And finally, I am not the most code savvy anymore and wish to keep things simple.
What I am looking for from my new phone is pretty simple. I am perfectly fine with most things stock on it. All I would really like to do is remove the tethering block, and possibly delete a bit of the bloatware that came with it.
From my reading, it looks like I need to root to be able to tether. If I root without flashing a custom rom, am I still able to update when they hit verizon? Will simply rooting my phone give me the options to remove bloatware?
If not, what other options do I have? I am passed the point of wanting to wipe my phone from time to time to update and such. I tend to keep everything on it, and it gets old having to re-personalize it to my liking.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Just root won't stop ota's but do you want to keep root? There are certain apps that you can use from the play store for tethering that say they get around needing the paid service for tethering. I have used them in the past but i like the native tether app my phone didnt seem to get as hot. Honestly never tried any on my m8 rooted and soff since aquirering the phone. If your not interested in flashing want ota and root.. Might want to root and soff.
See that the last post offered viper ROM good ROM allows what you want.
From having had Viper previously, I will say I loved it. But at the same time, there was still a bit of flashing to do and that is not what I am looking for at the moment. As for the apps to use to get my tether working, nothing that I know of will allow wifi tethering without root.
So I guess my question at this time is am I able to just simply root my phone to do all that I have mentioned above without flashing a rom? Are there other steps I need to take to reach my goals? I am fine with the stock rom. I just dislike bloatware, need the wifi tethering, and would also not mind to have the battery saver app that comes stock but is hidden.
Thanks for the suggestions so far.
Well, you can use Weaksauce to root only, the question is if you will keep root through the next OTA update. Nobody will know until you try it....
Just rooting will not allow you uninstall apps on the /system partition. You need to be S-off for that. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my current understanding of S-on on this device......
There is a way to tether without root: it's the paid version of FoxFi. Not the most elegant solution from what I'm reading, but it works.
But you know, I think you would get everything you desire by getting S-off, flashing a custom recovery and then CleanROM. It's strictly debloated, perm-rooted stock. Clean, simple and stable.
And when the next OTA comes out, you can bet that Scott will put out a CleanROM version of it in no time. Why is that harder than taking an OTA?
It just involves downloading a file and flashing it in recovery..
I'm curious to see the outcome of the OP. I recently came back to Android from using an iPhone for over a year. I went to the iPhone because I was tired of roming and never being content with the device performance. There was always bugs, updates or new kernel. Now that I'm back I'm getting the root itch again but really want to refrain of tinking with it and going through that downward spiral again. I love the stock look and would like to deploy maybe try a asop rom or two.
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I like clean ROM also.... It is kept up-to-date very well... The good stuff worth having in an ota is usually offered by most devs very quickly. I don't know what was needed on your DNA to root and unlock for custom recovery but the m8 process is really quite easy (if you have a PC) lol.
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I'm curious to see the outcome of the OP. I recently came back to Android from using an iPhone for over a year. I went to the iPhone because I was tired of roming and never being content with the device performance. There was always bugs, updates or new kernel. Now that I'm back I'm getting the root itch again but really want to refrain of tinking with it and going through that downward spiral again. I love the stock look and would like to deploy maybe try a asop rom or two.
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Maybe a gpe ROM? Lol so may choices. The problem with to root or not to root is that its an option now but what if an ota patches the exploit allowing the root? Then you don't have an option except to wait for another exploit if you didn't root and soff your device. If you ask me I would rather have the control to make that decision and not be forced into one. You never know when an update includes a patch for known exploit(s). Just my opinion.
ddgarcia05 said:
I'm curious to see the outcome of the OP. I recently came back to Android from using an iPhone for over a year. I went to the iPhone because I was tired of roming and never being content with the device performance. There was always bugs, updates or new kernel. Now that I'm back I'm getting the root itch again but really want to refrain of tinking with it and going through that downward spiral again. I love the stock look and would like to deploy maybe try a asop rom or two.
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No spiral with CleanROM. Check out the thread. It's pretty boring - which is good! Because there are no bugs (unless introduced by users flashing something on top of the rom), it works just as good as stock, battery is great.... Flash and forget....
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I like clean ROM also.... It is kept up-to-date very well... The good stuff worth having in an ota is usually offered by most devs very quickly. I don't know what was needed on your DNA to root and unlock for custom recovery but the m8 process is really quite easy (if you have a PC) lol.
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Maybe a gpe ROM? Lol so may choices. The problem with to root or not to root is that its an option now but what if an ota patches the exploit allowing the root? Then you don't have an option except to wait for another exploit if you didn't root and soff your device. If you ask me I would rather have the control to make that decision and not be forced into one. You never know when an update includes a patch for known exploit(s). Just my opinion.
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Exactly right! It seems to be getting harder and harder to find exploits for root, S-off etc. Anybody think it'll get easier with Android L??? I don't.
You can always flash back to stock, but you never know if the next update won't lock it down for months - or longer....
Rather than removing the bloat, I'd use something like Titanium Backup to just freeze it. I can't say for sure about this phone but my last phone was a Razr Maxx. With that phone, if any of the bloat was removed, the update would fail. If you just froze the apps, you could always unfreeze them, then run the update.
Anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition ?
I hate verizon and their software, and it would be nice to not be running verizon software and convert to the dev edition and get updates and not have to wait for verizon to drag their feet like they always do.
I know I could go with a gpe rom but I have had bad luck with them, and its a lot easier to customize a sense rom and I do like sense 6, and I do believe the htc dev m8's run sense roms.
Anyone ?
Roefastford said:
Anyone know if you can convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition ?
I hate verizon and their software, and it would be nice to not be running verizon software and convert to the dev edition and get updates and not have to wait for verizon to drag their feet like they always do.
I know I could go with a gpe rom but I have had bad luck with them, and its a lot easier to customize a sense rom and I do like sense 6, and I do believe the htc dev m8's run sense roms.
Anyone ?
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Is your service through Verizon? Then no. You'll always have to "wait" on Verizon for the latest firmware, etc. You could always switch carriers and "wait" on them too. The grass is always greener on the other side. Verizon had the fastest m7 updates and had one slow m8 update. Even with the M7 people *****ed about how slow Verizon was (despite getting the major updates out before any other carrier). If you can't wait for updates, get the new Moto X.
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Is your service through Verizon? Then no. You'll always have to "wait" on Verizon for the latest firmware, etc. You could always switch carriers and "wait" on them too. The grass is always greener on the other side. Verizon had the fastest m7 updates and had one slow m8 update. Even with the M7 people *****ed about how slow Verizon was (despite getting the major updates out before any other carrier). If you can't wait for updates, get the new Moto X.
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I know it can be done there were posts about it before on xda because the process they talked about using a back up from an actual dev edition m8 to do it.
Just because my phone operates on verizon does not mean that it has to run on verizon software, just as you can purchase a dev edition or gpe edition m8 and use it on verizon without verizon software and firmware.
Right now I can run a gpe google play edition rom and get rid of the verizon software and even be able to get rid of the verizon firmware.
Just like you can get a google nexus and run it on verizon service and totally without verizon software and verizon firmware, so yes the verizon m8 can be converted to a dev edition its just a matter of figuring out the process of doing it.
So for the record your wrong...
I made a mistake in listing this I meant to say does anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition, as we all know it can be done its just about figuring out how to do it.
The phones are the same physically its all in the programming, so it can be done, my question is does anyone know how to acomplish this ????
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I made a mistake in listing this I meant to say does anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition, as we all know it can be done its just about figuring out how to do it.
The phones are the same physically its all in the programming, so it can be done, my question is does anyone know how to acomplish this ????
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well... it if were so simple it would be done, wouldn't it? Maybe not?
We must not have anyone on Verizon who wants this enough to put the time in to get it done.
If it has been done on other M8's then yes it can most likely be done on the Verizon variant.
to accomplish it?
reverse engineer the GSM M8 conversion.
talk to someone who converted a GSM M8 to Dev Edition, maybe they will tell you all that is required and you can start working on trying to do it, maybe they won't - who knows til ya try?
but basically you see how they did it on GSM, and "port" it to the Verizon variant using our files.
The main thing (I think anyway, maybe it doesn't even matter lol) - just giving my 2 cents - it has to do with hboot, much to the liking how edits are made by hex to the hboot.img to remove the red text, it would possibly have to be edited to be allowed to be flashed on our Variant.
I really don't know though, and I am not sure you will get many answers in this specific area, simply because it's Verizon, and the only people going to find it are the ones wanting it also on Verizon.
So, I would possibly post in the thread of a conversion thread and see what they say, or PM the OP of that thread and see what he says.
I don't think this spot will get much more than speculation such as this post right here, because if I knew how to do it, I would do it for you.
andybones said:
well... it if were so simple it would be done, wouldn't it? Maybe not?
We must not have anyone on Verizon who wants this enough to put the time in to get it done.
If it has been done on other M8's then yes it can most likely be done on the Verizon variant.
to accomplish it?
reverse engineer the GSM M8 conversion.
talk to someone who converted a GSM M8 to Dev Edition, maybe they will tell you all that is required and you can start working on trying to do it, maybe they won't - who knows til ya try?
but basically you see how they did it on GSM, and "port" it to the Verizon variant using our files.
The main thing (I think anyway, maybe it doesn't even matter lol) - just giving my 2 cents - it has to do with hboot, much to the liking how edits are made by hex to the hboot.img to remove the red text, it would possibly have to be edited to be allowed to be flashed on our Variant.
I really don't know though, and I am not sure you will get many answers in this specific area, simply because it's Verizon, and the only people going to find it are the ones wanting it also on Verizon.
So, I would possibly post in the thread of a conversion thread and see what they say, or PM the OP of that thread and see what he says.
I don't think this spot will get much more than speculation such as this post right here, because if I knew how to do it, I would do it for you.
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Yeah, I could have sworn I saw a topic on this in our forum when the phone came out like a couple months in. I just know there is no way I could ever figure it out I just know we have a lot of good devs cruising our forum so I figured maybe none of them ever really thought about it.
I"am just one of those people that has no choice but to use verizon even though I only get 1x data here which its on an Ohio state route highway, and at&t has very very weak signal cant even get any unless I go right out to the highway and then its edge most of the time, and no tmobile coverage for 30 miles.
I"am just trying to figure out a way to at least ditch their ( verizons ) software and firmware at least because theirs quite literally sucks and I cant really afford to go buy a dev edition so this was my only hope. I just hate verizon with a passion but I"am stuck with them.
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Yeah, I could have sworn I saw a topic on this in our forum when the phone came out like a couple months in. I just know there is no way I could ever figure it out I just know we have a lot of good devs cruising our forum so I figured maybe none of them ever really thought about it.
I"am just one of those people that has no choice but to use verizon even though I only get 1x data here which its on an Ohio state route highway, and at&t has very very weak signal cant even get any unless I go right out to the highway and then its edge most of the time, and no tmobile coverage for 30 miles.
I"am just trying to figure out a way to at least ditch their ( verizons ) software and firmware at least because theirs quite literally sucks and I cant really afford to go buy a dev edition so this was my only hope. I just hate verizon with a passion but I"am stuck with them.
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have you tried any of the GPE ROMS?
I know it isn't a GPE phone.. but the ROM might help? sorry I am not good with this subject, wish I could be of more help.
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have you tried any of the GPE ROMS?
I know it isn't a GPE phone.. but the ROM might help? sorry I am not good with this subject, wish I could be of more help.
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I have tried the gpe roms and for some reason I could never get them to work, but I did on my old m7. The main thing for me was I could never figure out how to do all the customizing on gpe roms, like I do with the viperone rom I guess they have me spoiled, like I need to have the back up button to work to kill your current app when you hold it down, then I like to run the at&t signal icons instead of the verizon ones, then I like to remove the battery icon completely and just run the stock sense percentage for the battery.
Then I like the sense camera but I could do without it. And I like having the harman kardon audio. I know most of these features are not easy to set up on a gpe even if you can at all.
I did like how the gpe with my old m7 would run smother and use less of the phones memory just to operate the operating system.
I thought about trying the team nocturnal gpe rom again, but it seems like all the gpe roms have not been updated since early august so its been well over a month since any had updates which that kind of makes me weary to think the support is not there maybe ?
I just know with viperone they normally dont go more than a month at most without updating their rom, but for viperone they base it all on international firmware so I think the rom runs best on gsm versions and that for our verizon m8's I dont think it works as well as I had an at&t m8 and I think the viperone worked much better on it than it does on our verizon m8, but I really dont have a lot of choices of roms that are easy to customize like viperone.
I use to love the elegancia rom for the m8 and wish v6maniac would start it back up but it looks like that is not going to happen since hes on team insert coin which that rom is ok but to me my only choice has been viperone since no elegancia.
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I have tried the gpe roms and for some reason I could never get them to work, but I did on my old m7. The main thing for me was I could never figure out how to do all the customizing on gpe roms, like I do with the viperone rom I guess they have me spoiled, like I need to have the back up button to work to kill your current app when you hold it down, then I like to run the at&t signal icons instead of the verizon ones, then I like to remove the battery icon completely and just run the stock sense percentage for the battery.
Then I like the sense camera but I could do without it. And I like having the harman kardon audio. I know most of these features are not easy to set up on a gpe even if you can at all.
I did like how the gpe with my old m7 would run smother and use less of the phones memory just to operate the operating system.
I thought about trying the team nocturnal gpe rom again, but it seems like all the gpe roms have not been updated since early august so its been well over a month since any had updates which that kind of makes me weary to think the support is not there maybe ?
I just know with viperone they normally dont go more than a month at most without updating their rom, but for viperone they base it all on international firmware so I think the rom runs best on gsm versions and that for our verizon m8's I dont think it works as well as I had an at&t m8 and I think the viperone worked much better on it than it does on our verizon m8, but I really dont have a lot of choices of roms that are easy to customize like viperone.
I use to love the elegancia rom for the m8 and wish v6maniac would start it back up but it looks like that is not going to happen since hes on team insert coin which that rom is ok but to me my only choice has been viperone since no elegancia.
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I highly suggest you give Liquid Smooth AOSP ROM a try with Apex launcher, I NEVER though I'd leave Sense and actually use AOSP ROM for more than an hour, but it's been my DD for months.
AOSP has everything, you can edit all the soft key buttons to whatever you want, it's not as many Tweaks as Venom, but no offense to them, they have a bit too many I get kind of lost..
can you do me a favor, and tell me the last four number of your baseband?
go into settings > about phone - should be in there..
do you know if you flashed the Android 4.4.3 firmware??
If not then this is a big issue and most likely why your having GPE ROM issues, also Team Venoms ROM will run muuhc better.
if you need help getting the new firmware let me know, (if you don't already have it installed..)
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I highly suggest you give Liquid Smooth AOSP ROM a try with Apex launcher, I NEVER though I'd leave Sense and actually use AOSP ROM for more than an hour, but it's been my DD for months.
AOSP has everything, you can edit all the soft key buttons to whatever you want, it's not as many Tweaks as Venom, but no offense to them, they have a bit too many I get kind of lost..
can you do me a favor, and tell me the last four number of your baseband?
go into settings > about phone - should be in there..
do you know if you flashed the Android 4.4.3 firmware??
If not then this is a big issue and most likely why your having GPE ROM issues, also Team Venoms ROM will run muuhc better.
if you need help getting the new firmware let me know, (if you don't already have it installed..)
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I"am on 0702 baseband, and I restored a stock backup and stock recovery and I took the ota for 4.4.3 the week it came out.
When I tried a couple gpe roms it was a while before the verizon firmware update came out but others were using them on the same verizon firmware, and the team nocturnal gpe is made for a verizon m8, its not like some of the other roms where they were made for international or gsm and then just modified to work on verizon m8.
I think roms that are made for your exact version of m8 work better than roms made for a different version then are adapted to work on the verizon m8 also.
Any news on this? I´ve been trying almost everything around to convert to WWE/Dev, no joy at all.
Would it work for me since I'm using a Verizon m8 on cricket which is gsm?
HumanXv2 said:
Would it work for me since I'm using a Verizon m8 on cricket which is gsm?
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I doubt it matters who your on, its all about the conversion process working which no one has ever posted they converted the verizon m8 to a dev edition.
Only the gsm version have been able to be converted to a dev.
Believe me I tried and tried and tried and its posted all over where no one could figure it out.
The verizon m8 is a world phone meaning both cdma and gsm so in theory it should be possible but the cdma side may well be what keeps the conversion from working.
I do not think you will find much support on this going forward since the m9 is out now and most likely any conversion efforts would be put towards the new model m9 instead of last years m8.
Now if someone cracks this for the verizon m9 then it may be used towards the m8 also but the focus would mostly be on the new model m9 you would think instead of last years m8.
M9guy said:
I doubt it matters who your on, its all about the conversion process working which no one has ever posted they converted the verizon m8 to a dev edition.
Only the gsm version have been able to be converted to a dev.
Believe me I tried and tried and tried and its posted all over where no one could figure it out.
The verizon m8 is a world phone meaning both cdma and gsm so in theory it should be possible but the cdma side may well be what keeps the conversion from working.
I do not think you will find much support on this going forward since the m9 is out now and most likely any conversion efforts would be put towards the new model m9 instead of last years m8.
Now if someone cracks this for the verizon m9 then it may be used towards the m8 also but the focus would mostly be on the new model m9 you would think instead of last years m8.
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I second this. Tried everything around and still no joy.
rickylambert said:
I second this. Tried everything around and still no joy.
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I feel your pain brother as I tried to do this on my verizon m8 I spent a couple week trying and finally gave up as their was really not enough dev interest on doing this and I couldnt do it myself as I fully admit I"am not the guy to do it.
If someone gets her done on the m9 I"am sure the m8 would get it also, until then I guess we verizon users are another red headed step child right in front of the sprint guys lol. At least until they eventually weed out cdma which might take years to do but I believe that is their goal by maybe 2020 lol same for ditching 1x and 3g to convert that spectrum to LTE.
I"am just going but what I have read so please dont anyone ask me for documentation on this lol.