My phone has a dinky little TI OMAP 180mhz chip and the battery life still seems short to me. The battery is a no name chinese 2000mah made in 08. Using wifi with the screen on the lowest readable backlight setting I get about 4-6 hours of usage with light browsing. High backlight, about 2 hours at most. I was just thinking though, all of these new phones have 1000-1500 mah batteries and much more powerful processors yet still retain usability. Pretty much if I do anything other than talk on the phone, I will have to charge the phone every day. Would I benefit from a name brand battery?
Also the first half of the battery life really feels like 80% of the battery life. That last half has nothing!
oic0 said:
My phone has a dinky little TI OMAP 180mhz chip and the battery life still seems short to me. The battery is a no name chinese 2000mah made in 08. Using wifi with the screen on the lowest readable backlight setting I get about 6 hours of usage. High backlight, about 2 hours at most. I was just thinking though, all of these new phones have 1000-1500 mah batteries and much more powerful processors yet still retain usability. Would I benefit from a name brand battery?
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I'd say a BIG yes to that. To see the difference try using a new battery. Even if its within the 1500mAh limit. Your bound to see a world of difference. My phone the HTC touch has an 1100mAh which i'd definitely call small by the current standards. Yet it gives me about two days worth of usage on a single charge. The battery is about a year old. If your using a genuine HTC handset, needless to say invest in a good original battery. Very useful.
Sadly it isn't an HTC I hang out here a lot because of all of the useful software the forum goers make and all of the useful general knowledge.
It's a no name Chinese phone.
The battery is a GB/T 18287-2000 but when I look that part number up they all look different and even have the terminals in different spots (what use is a part number if it means nothing?). Guess I am stuck with these crappy no name batteries that probably don't put out their spec. It really is a huge battery though. Seems to be about the same dimensions as my screen (3.2inch). A shame it doesn't last long.
use omap clock and downclock if you want more battery
The Omnia 7 uses the same battery as the Omnia HD (i8910)
So you can get replacement ones quite cheaply on ebay.
what I really want is a battery charger case...
you get them in Korea for other phone models but have yet to see any here at all.
basically it's a small case to carry your battery in, but it has a little port so you can charge your spare battery whenever.
it means you don't have to wait around and you always have a spare charged battery at hand.
this one is for the galaxy s
here
or
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-CHGPKNVGSTA-features
why can't we have stuff like this? it would make life so much easier!
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That would really be cool.
But I am pretty happy with the battery performance...
i heard a lot of good thing about omnia 7 battery before buying it, but i am somewhat disappointed right now. it does not last me 8-20. God forbid if i played anything on the loudspeaker, when i'm say, camping.
i really hope the next mayor breakthrough in tech is in this area, instead of unnecessary quad-cores and whatnot.
I fully agree, I wish there was more impovement made in the battery field! I don't think there is a need to have processors any faster than 1Ghz. It's simply a marketing tool to get all the fools thinking that they have a better phone because it has a dual core processor etc. Now on a desktop computer where you will REALLY multitask (watch a video whilst photoediting, surfing the web and chatting on MSN) multi-core processors make sense. On a phone, there can only be one application in the foreground at any one time.
Anyway, I can confirm with the OP that the Omnia HD battery does work. I am using one right now!
Battery life for me is somewhat amazing! I went to a wedding where I must have played games for atleast 2-3 HOURS, then surfed the web somewhat, sent plenty of txt messages and a few phone calls. Lasted the full day, got home, went to bed, started surfing the web and the battery refused to die!
Whereas on other days, the battery tends to die quicker :S It's hit or miss sometimes.
Battery technology has definitely not caught up with smartphone technology. Many consumers are opting to an extended battery or a spare battery. Try batteries4less online.
Try mugen power
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=omnia+7
I grabbed the 1800mah mugen. It's incredible.
I'll spend the day with moderate surfing/news feeds/gaming and often I'll be at 50-60% battery. It's ridiculous I almost don't believe it.
That being said, it takes hours to charge via USB (from almost dead to full takes approx. 9-10 hours.)
What about this 2430 mah battery:
h t t p://w w w .ebay.c o. uk/itm/2430MAH-HIGH-CAPACITY-GOLD-BATTERY-I8700-OMNIA-7-/200640564711?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item2eb71c0de7
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What about this 2430 mah battery:
h t t p://w w w .ebay.c o. uk/itm/2430MAH-HIGH-CAPACITY-GOLD-BATTERY-I8700-OMNIA-7-/200640564711?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item2eb71c0de7
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if you scrape the cover off, it's 750mah inside.
go for oem, all the rest are fakes (esp china ones) and the genuine ones like mugen are 200% more expensive than oem ones for marginal benefit.
my omnia was suffering from battery issues and i realized although the phone is new, the battery was old, so i bought a new one from amazon for £7 inc shipping. has worked fine ever since. normal days usage, 1hr of calls, 2 hrs browsing, 1 hr texting and the occasional game and i have 45% at the end of the day when im recharging. i have two email accounts on push, location on, wifi on.
BakedGoodsX said:
I grabbed the 1800mah mugen. It's incredible.
I'll spend the day with moderate surfing/news feeds/gaming and often I'll be at 50-60% battery. It's ridiculous I almost don't believe it.
That being said, it takes hours to charge via USB (from almost dead to full takes approx. 9-10 hours.)
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So the 1800mah is good? I'm interested...
Thank you
Question about the Mugen Batteries
Whew, first post! Anyhow, I have seen the Mugen batteries listed previously for other phones I have used. I've always been curious, but never brave enough to pull the trigger on one. Is anyone aware of any battery draw-down tests involving their products? I'd be curious if someone were to use something WP Bench's battery drain test to get a valid comparison of the standard 1500mah to the extended 1800mah cell.
After about a month's use I can safely say my phone has yet to fully drain.
I do charge every night, and often the charge floats around 50% after a full day's use. I surf quite a bit (on wifi), play some games, etc. I admit though, that since getting Mango my Omnia doesn't grab 3G as often as it used to (it's usually on EDGE). This is a known issue with Mango, so I'm sure I'd see heavier drain if I was on 3G all the time.
Since I bought the Mugen day one, I can't really compare it to the stock battery. I too, would be curious about WP Bench drain tests. If I have some time where I don't need my phone, I'll try it out.
Anyone had any experience with this site?
http://www.batteryupgrade.co.uk/shopBrowser.php?assortmentProductId=15919234&shopGroupId=49081386&tracker=googleProducts_uk#/assortmentProductId/15919234/shopGroupId/49081386
claiming they have 2400 batteries for the Omnia 7 for £25...it doesn't look as obviously fake as the ones on eBay, and it says they provide a warranty ect.
Im looking for a genuine samsung battery for my omnia 7, mine came deffective, does anybody can tell me a trust website? thanks!
mugenpower 1800mAh drain test
I compared the 1800mAh mugen battery with a stock (about 8 months old).
First you have to go through several discharge/recharge cycles as they recommend.
using WP7 Bench Battery test :
stock lasted 3:48.49 (225mins)
mugen lasted 4:35.52 (275mins).
So an improvement of 22%.. which is what you would expect if the battery really had 20% more capacity as advertised.
at USD$46 these are not cheap, but the phone now lasts a complete day with my typical use, and it didn't use to - so to me it's worth it.
BTW the delivery from the official site was free and quick (under a week)
hummmmm
Spookidoodles said:
Anyone had any experience with this site?
http://www.batteryupgrade.co.uk/shopBrowser.php?assortmentProductId=15919234&shopGroupId=49081386&tracker=googleProducts_uk#/assortmentProductId/15919234/shopGroupId/49081386
claiming they have 2400 batteries for the Omnia 7 for £25...it doesn't look as obviously fake as the ones on eBay, and it says they provide a warranty ect.
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"Free extended cover included" do you want to make the phone any bigger?
By what i read on others forums, the 2400 mAh is a fake, so the 1800 mAh's Mugen is simply the best choice.
Akku-King
I bought "Akku-King" 1750 mAh in December and it works fantastic. In "normal" use 2 days.
neutom said:
I bought "Akku-King" 1750 mAh in December and it works fantastic. In "normal" use 2 days.
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My first battery replaced by manufacturer, capacity 1500 mAh and it lasts 12 hrs fully internet used.
Ive been wondering about battery capacity over time. I already know that after a couple years, a phone thats in use may lose somewhere near 20% of its capacity (give or take depending on usage) I also know that external charger packs tend to charge around 70 to 80% of their rated capacity. I also know that when storing a lithium battery you shouldnt store it full or dead...but around half charged...and that this is how batteries are shipped inside phones or as standalone products.
What I dont know however, is what kind of degradation or loss of capacity to expect in the battery of a new unused phone, that was old stock from a some time ago. Be it 1, 2, 3 years or more. For example...say someone buys a phone that released in 2013...it was manufactured in June of that year and has a 2000 mah battery.
Aware me oh great bros of xda. Ive been curious about this for some time.
bump. Id love any response.
not sure if this is true or not but someone told that eco lithium battery can't last more than 2 - 2.5 year so how is it possible to save the battery life extending it
it doesn't make sense
any idea?
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not sure if this is true or not but someone told that eco lithium battery can't last more than 2 - 2.5 year so how is it possible to save the battery life extending it
it doesn't make sense
any idea?
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It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of charge cycles and the heat generated by them. Lithium based rechargable batteries (lithium ion [Li-ion], lithium polymer [Li-Po]) simply degrade from use. It's just a part of the chemistry involved. Like anything else in the world (tires, motors, underwear, tolerance for BS) it wears out with use. The accepted "lifespan" for a lithium rechargeable is ~500 cycles, after which capacity is reduced by upwards of 20% or so, and should be replaced. If you charge your phone every night and run it down to zero the next day, that's about a year and a half. Most of us don't go quite that far, so the 2-2.5 year figure you've heard is probably about average.
How can you extend it? Don't use it. Don't wi-fi tether, don't watch videos, don't play games, don't spend hours flicking left or right on Tinder, etc. Obviously, that defeats the purpose of having a smartphone, so take that in consideration when buying your next one. Can you simply pop out a fried battery and buy a new one off eBay for $10-20? Or can it be easily replaced with the right set of tools and patience? Or is it impossible and will cost too damn much to have it done professionally? Do you even plan on having the phone as long as the battery will last before it takes a dump?
"It doesn't make sense" you say. It makes perfect sense.
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It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of charge cycles and the heat generated by them. Lithium based rechargable batteries (lithium ion [Li-ion], lithium polymer [Li-Po]) simply degrade from use. It's just a part of the chemistry involved. Like anything else in the world (tires, motors, underwear, tolerance for BS) it wears out with use. The accepted "lifespan" for a lithium rechargeable is ~500 cycles, after which capacity is reduced by upwards of 20% or so, and should be replaced. If you charge your phone every night and run it down to zero the next day, that's about a year and a half. Most of us don't go quite that far, so the 2-2.5 year figure you've heard is probably about average.
How can you extend it? Don't use it. Don't wi-fi tether, don't watch videos, don't play games, don't spend hours flicking left or right on Tinder, etc. Obviously, that defeats the purpose of having a smartphone, so take that in consideration when buying your next one. Can you simply pop out a fried battery and buy a new one off eBay for $10-20? Or can it be easily replaced with the right set of tools and patience? Or is it impossible and will cost too damn much to have it done professionally? Do you even plan on having the phone as long as the battery will last before it takes a dump?
"It doesn't make sense" you say. It makes perfect sense.
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now that u explain it ,it make sense But not yet
my brother once had a job on Dell and they have a lot of laptop that they didn't sell so they have to change the battery every 2 year and get rid of the old batteries i don't get it maybe it is different thing on laptops
i have my phone sense 2013-1-10 so it's 2 years old and it's really in bad state it shut down at 85
when i check that battery with app or with the phone setting it's say the battery is good that weird
Hi guys. Just wanted to ask a quick question with regards to. My Galaxy A73 and the accubattery health estimate.
Before anyone yells from the tree tops "battery monitoring software isn't accurate" I know that, but it's enough to get a general idea on how my battery is holding up. And historically it's readings have been pretty good with me. Recently slapped in a fresh 3000mah battery in my S7 and it pretty regularly reports the battery health in the 96-98% range (I typed in the correct capacity for the new battery) which I am happy with. So..... with thay out the the way!
Recently the entire family basically came up for new contracts all at the same time, and we all got A73s. So three phones for the wife, father and myself. I've installed accubattery on all three phones and done full charges, ~15%-5% up to 100%. And on ALL three phones the reported battery capacity is around ~4500mah which seems far off of the design capacity of the advertised 5000mah. My particular phone reported a first charge capacity of 4733. But has dropped to 4500 over subsequent charges. As I said. I know software isn't 100% accurate. But historically it's been good to me reporting good numbers for my S7 and my A80.
Although I have been very impressed with the battery life thus far im still wondering if these battery's are bad.
Can anyone else show their accubattery results?
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Hi guys. Just wanted to ask a quick question with regards to. My Galaxy A73 and the accubattery health estimate.
Before anyone yells from the tree tops "battery monitoring software isn't accurate" I know that, but it's enough to get a general idea on how my battery is holding up. And historically it's readings have been pretty good with me. Recently slapped in a fresh 3000mah battery in my S7 and it pretty regularly reports the battery health in the 96-98% range (I typed in the correct capacity for the new battery) which I am happy with. So..... with thay out the the way!
Recently the entire family basically came up for new contracts all at the same time, and we all got A73s. So three phones for the wife, father and myself. I've installed accubattery on all three phones and done full charges, ~15%-5% up to 100%. And on ALL three phones the reported battery capacity is around ~4500mah which seems far off of the design capacity of the advertised 5000mah. My particular phone reported a first charge capacity of 4733. But has dropped to 4500 over subsequent charges. As I said. I know software isn't 100% accurate. But historically it's been good to me reporting good numbers for my S7 and my A80.
Although I have been very impressed with the battery life thus far im still wondering if these battery's are bad.
Can anyone else show their accubattery results?
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This behavior is observed by me also, and a few days back I put comments in the Google play store app review but developer is yet to respond.
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This behavior is observed by me also, and a few days back I put comments in the Google play store app review but developer is yet to respond.
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Interesting.
So you are also seeing ~4500mah?
Well of that's the case then I don't think all these phones can have bad batteries.
So Either
1. Accubattery is reporting incorrectly. Not exactly far fetched as software can definately be wrong.
2. Our phones all have bad batteries. less likely but still a possibility.
3. Or lastly Samsung is lying about advertised capacity and we all have 4500mah batteries. I find this to be the LEAST likely scenario.
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Interesting.
So you are also seeing ~4500mah?
Well of that's the case then I don't think all these phones can have bad batteries.
So Either
1. Accubattery is reporting incorrectly. Not exactly far fetched as software can definately be wrong.
2. Our phones all have bad batteries. less likely but still a possibility.
3. Or lastly Samsung is lying about advertised capacity and we all have 4500mah batteries. I find this to be the LEAST likely scenario.
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Sorry this is an older thread, but I've had much the same issue with quite a few of the Sammy devices, and found this thread because I've been considering an A73.
First, Accubattery, in my experience does a good job. I've used it on an LG G8 that I had done battery 'conditioning' since it was new. Guess what? Accubattery rated that phone at 103% of capacity! Yes, it was accurate. Also used it with a Pixel 6a and battery was 100%, so that one was rated at 4500 mah and that's exactly what Accubattery said.
But most of my Sammy phones, like the 2 A52S I have, are rated much lower than stated capacity. Instead of 4500, they both rated about 4100.
Your scenario number 3 is actually correct, but not in the 'lying' part. If you research it, ea mfg tells you that battery capacity can vary (they claim it's hard to control during manufacturing), and it states in their 'fine print' that a battery actual capacity can vary by 10% plus or minus (it's always minus).
That means my new phone, properly conditioned from the beginning, could read as low as 4050 and still be within specs. So it's not a 'lie', it's a way to put in less battery and still claim it's 'as designed' and you have no recourse.
Ironically though, my older galaxy A03, which has a 5000 mah battery, gets a 100% capacity from accubattery. Sometimes I think it's a better idea just to use them and not even think about it. It's kind of tedious and it's pretty much out of our control. And life is short.
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