It's no secret that Verizon doesn't people rooting their phones, but despite my efforts to dig deeper I still haven't found any method of unrooting that would not only remove root access but also the evidence of it.
Perhaps its not possible, but what I'm looking for is a way to remove root and any trace of it from a device should I need to take it in for repair. I thought that a simple binary/flash count reset would do the trick.
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Galt42 said:
It's no secret that Verizon doesn't people rooting their phones, but despite my efforts to dig deeper I still haven't found any method of unrooting that would not only remove root access but also the evidence of it.
Perhaps its not possible, but what I'm looking for is a way to remove root and any trace of it from a device should I need to take it in for repair. I thought that a simple binary/flash count reset would do the trick.
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Run Triangle away if flash counter is tripped and Odin the tar. Not sure what version you are on or what you are seeing.
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Ok, so I'm pondering the switch to SGSIII and I have a few questions, that as of now, I haven't been able to find answers to...
1) I will be unlocking the bootloader, and my understanding is that flashing an insecure aboot is the most recent technique...is this correct? And does this supercede kexec?
2) Will an ODIN image of my SGSIII allow me to completely restore the phone in such a way that Verizon will never know it's been modified? If not, is this possible...namely, to completely mask what I have done to the phone?
Thanks.
Tom
tomg09 said:
Ok, so I'm pondering the switch to SGSIII and I have a few questions, that as of now, I haven't been able to find answers to...
1) I will be unlocking the bootloader, and my understanding is that flashing an insecure aboot is the most recent technique...is this correct? And does this supercede kexec?
2) Will an ODIN image of my SGSIII allow me to completely restore the phone in such a way that Verizon will never know it's been modified? If not, is this possible...namely, to completely mask what I have done to the phone?
Thanks.
Tom
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1) Root your phone using this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342 , then go to the Play Store and DL Titanium Backup just to make sure you're rooted and then DL VZW EZ-Unlock via the Play Store. Run it and hit the unock button and you're all set. It'll take less than 10min to be Rooted and Unlocked
2) IDK about this one as some have said there is a Flash Counter. Not sure how anyone at a Verizon store would be able to tell if it's been flashed or not since most CS techs don't even know what a bootloader is
If it trips the flash counter (dont believe it does) you can use triangle to reset that. In short do whatever you want to the phone. Youll be able to get back to a state where they wont know anything.
Flashing the stock ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755386 restores the secure bootloader and also removes root so nobody would ever know your phone was modified unless you happened to have tripped the flash counter, in which case you would just use triangle away to reset it.
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Good Safety tip guys :good:
Thanks
Thanks guys. This is helpful. I'm making the plunge (I work for Verizon, so I get a demo for free). :victory:
So I had a Galaxy S1 Captivate for about 2 year and my wife has a Fascinate and I rooted/flashed them both like it was my job for the last couple years. I never once hard bricked either and for the most part knew what I was doing. I have a couple home made jigs so DL mode or (soft bricks) were never an issue. My question to you guys is I'm trying to gauge how difficult/risky is it to root and rom the GS3 (Verizon model specifically). The reason I'm wondering this info is because I personally don't own my GS3, it is property of my company and I don't want to chance bricking or not being able to easily flash back to stock unless it has gotten easier or less risky since the original Galaxy lineup. I mean if you had 2.3 bootloaders on your GS1 and you had access to a jig, there was pretty much a 0% chance of hard bricking unless you do something really stupid. Sorry for rambling on!
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So I had a Galaxy S1 Captivate for about 2 year and my wife has a Fascinate and I rooted/flashed them both like it was my job for the last couple years. I never once hard bricked either and for the most part knew what I was doing. I have a couple home made jigs so DL mode or (soft bricks) were never an issue. My question to you guys is I'm trying to gauge how difficult/risky is it to root and rom the GS3 (Verizon model specifically). The reason I'm wondering this info is because I personally don't own my GS3, it is property of my company and I don't want to chance bricking or not being able to easily flash back to stock unless it has gotten easier or less risky since the original Galaxy lineup. I mean if you had 2.3 bootloaders on your GS1 and you had access to a jig, there was pretty much a 0% chance of hard bricking unless you do something really stupid. Sorry for rambling on!
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I came from the Fascinate and this phone is just as easy to flash. Just make sure you read the OP and only flash things made for the US versions and you'll be fine. If something gets hosed, you can always odin back. Here is a great guide to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Deliquified said:
I came from the Fascinate and this phone is just as easy to flash. Just make sure you read the OP and only flash things made for the US versions and you'll be fine. If something gets hosed, you can always odin back. Here is a great guide to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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I haven't checked that link out yet but how easy is it to go back to the Verizon stock ROM if need be?
Does the ROM procedure go something like this?...
Power Off, DL mode with jig, ODIN a CWM or Kernel package with CWM, mount SD, drag and drop ROM, Flash, win?
well...
well the good news is that you don't have to flash a custom rom for root. I just rooted and unlocked my phone while still running the stock rom. =) i'd post my tutorial but I'm a new member and I have 8 more posts to do before I can post in development.
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well the good news is that you don't have to flash a custom rom for root. I just rooted and unlocked my phone while still running the stock rom. =) i'd post my tutorial but I'm a new member and I have 8 more posts to do before I can post in development.
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There is already an in depth tutorial for that as well as one for those who have the recent OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
The above link is those with the jelly bean OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
This above is the in depth guide I was talking about. It was posted on 7/10/12. So there is no need for another tutorial unless you found a new way to do it. If you are talking about RootDebugFS then there is a tutorial for that here as well as the SuperSU version here as well.
I also came from a fascinate which was super easy to flash. As long as you read up on your homework this phone is cake to flash.
You shouldn't have many problems. If you need help, PM me. I'm glad to help.
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So I'm wondering one last thing. I hear about a "flash counter" on the GS3... anything I need to be really careful about to not trip this "counter"? Will Verizon void the warranty if tripped?
Thanks again guys!
Also, I'm going to be using this phone a lot for work and I ported my old personal number to Google Voice so this will be my personal phone as well, so I need the phone to be pretty solid and stable, should I be looking to flash Original ROMs or from the regular development section?
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So I'm wondering one last thing. I hear about a "flash counter" on the GS3... anything I need to be really careful about to not trip this "counter"? Will Verizon void the warranty if tripped?
Thanks again guys!
Also, I'm going to be using this phone a lot for work and I ported my old personal number to Google Voice so this will be my personal phone as well, so I need the phone to be pretty solid and stable, should I be looking to flash Original ROMs or from the regular development section?
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Once your rooted, you can download Triangle Away from the App Store and that will restore the counter to 0.
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Once your rooted, you can download Triangle Away from the App Store and that will restore the counter to 0.
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Thanks! Do you need to run the app every time you flash or just right before you would need to take it in to Verizon for warranty/service?
jayjr1105 said:
Thanks! Do you need to run the app every time you flash or just right before you would need to take it in to Verizon for warranty/service?
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If you unlock bootloader before you flash recovery you will not trip flash counter. If counter is tripped must use Triangle Away while still on stock rom. That being said flash counter does not affect anything except warranty and requires you to Odin stock root, run triangle Away then Odin full stock so best to fix as soon as you root and unlock to avoid extra work at time of return to Verizon.
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If you unlock bootloader before you flash recovery you will not trip flash counter. If counter is tripped must use Triangle Away while still on stock rom. That being said flash counter does not affect anything except warranty and requires you to Odin stock root, run triangle Away then Odin full stock so best to fix as soon as you root and unlock to avoid extra work at time of return to Verizon.
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Is there a way to just see if you tripped the flash counter without Triangle Away?
thinking of using the non-bootloader root method.
if i do this, is there an easy way to go back to non-root? i'm slightly paranoid about getting my warranty flagged if i ever bring my expensive new phone into a sprint store to be serviced. like some kind of factory reset, or an app?
thanks
bonus: is there a bricking risk with the rooting process like there is for flashing an image?
You should be able to simply remove the su binary to "go back". Various root applications can do that for you or you could manually delete the binary yourself.
As far as risk of bricking from this I would say No. Never heard of it happening but anything could be possible I guess.
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Buddy of mine decided to try to root his phone via ODIN after I advised him against it due to the locked bootloader. Needless to say the phone wont boot, at all, in any way shape or form. Any way to recover it? The red charging light turns on and the computer dings in response to plugging it into the laptop. Otherwise, nada. Any thoughts?
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Buddy of mine decided to try to root his phone via ODIN after I advised him against it due to the locked bootloader. Needless to say the phone wont boot, at all, in any way shape or form. Any way to recover it? The red charging light turns on and the computer dings in response to plugging it into the laptop. Otherwise, nada. Any thoughts?
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1. The phone is hard bricked.
2. You are misinformed as you can root your phone via Odin and use an app called EZ unlock to unlock the bootloader.
3. He will have to debrick the phone himself or pay $50 for JTAG services.
You fail to understand that Odin for a time was the only way to root a Samsung device. Also that no matter what root method is out there you still have to unlock the boot loader in order to flash anything else.
I'm not misinformed as Odin is how I've rooted my own phone and unlocked it. I was around from the start of the S3 when we were donating to get an unlock method, but when their are easier ways for a novice to unlock and root with less risk of bricking like the S3 tool kit i have on my laptop... At any rate thanks. Wasn't sure if their was anything I was missing/new in the community on recovery that might help him. I pretty much only tune in to root/ROM a phone then go back to reality. So I haven't been on in quite a while.
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I'm not misinformed as Odin is how I've rooted my own phone and unlocked it. I was around from the start of the S3 when we were donating to get an unlock method, but when their are easier ways for a novice to unlock and root with less risk of bricking like the S3 tool kit i have on my laptop... At any rate thanks. Wasn't sure if their was anything I was missing/new in the community on recovery that might help him. I pretty much only tune in to root/ROM a phone then go back to reality. So I haven't been on in quite a while.
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Your friend seems like the type to rush things as the most common cause of bricks is not following the directions to the root method. If I were you I tell him to pay the $50 for JTAG services since the debrick method has to be followed step by step in order to work.
You can fix this yourself. Follow the instructions I posted in this thread exactly...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47899079
[Solved - How to Unbrick] Hardbricked my GS3
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Every android phone I've had I rooted except this VRUCML1 GS3. I haven't felt any need to with this phone. However I've gotten to the point that I want to be able to backup app data so I'm gonna have to root. I am however concerned that I first need to find both root and unroot (i.e. in case I have to return the phone) methods that I can be sure will both work on a VRUCML1 phone. Yes I have done some searching but any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
gospodinwizard said:
Every android phone I've had I rooted except this VRUCML1 GS3. I haven't felt any need to with this phone. However I've gotten to the point that I want to be able to backup app data so I'm gonna have to root. I am however concerned that I first need to find both root and unroot (i.e. in case I have to return the phone) methods that I can be sure will both work on a VRUCML1 phone. Yes I have done some searching but any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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SafeRoot to root and just Odin ML1 tar to unroot and return to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48392009&postcount=1
Thank you. Being new to rooting the gs3 I need to ask a couple questions. Will this disable ota? Any negative effect from doing a factory reset to clean up the phone and reinstalling tb backups?
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