[Q] Root? Bootloader? Fill me in? - Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so I am not new to XDA, but i am new to posting etc. I have a question though... i know some phones you cant do anything with a locked bootloader but i remember on my lg g pro i just rooted it and flashed ROM's until my heart said stop... i wonder if its the same with verizon droid MAXX/Ultra? i am new to this thread so can someone fill me in? I bought... well free from from verizon and it had i think its first 4.4 update with the blue hue to it still then i checked to see if there were any updates which was.. so i updated i guess it changed that blue hue to white and some other stuff under the hood... but i wonder is there root for 4.4? and if so or not can you flash roms on this device if bootloader is locked? may be a noob question but i have flashed some things you would never believed worked.

Pure Heroine said:
Ok so I am not new to XDA, but i am new to posting etc. I have a question though... i know some phones you cant do anything with a locked bootloader but i remember on my lg g pro i just rooted it and flashed ROM's until my heart said stop... i wonder if its the same with verizon droid MAXX/Ultra? i am new to this thread so can someone fill me in? I bought... well free from from verizon and it had i think its first 4.4 update with the blue hue to it still then i checked to see if there were any updates which was.. so i updated i guess it changed that blue hue to white and some other stuff under the hood... but i wonder is there root for 4.4? and if so or not can you flash roms on this device if bootloader is locked? may be a noob question but i have flashed some things you would never believed worked.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613548&page=32

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I have an unlocked phone, can i update?

Hey everyone im new here, im a noob with everything related to android.
i Bought an unlocked at&t phone and right now im with rogers but im not gonna stay with them for very long.
it has version 2.2.1 on it, and i'd like to have gingerbread on it because i know that ics isnt out for the infuse yet. Can i update it by going to settings and software update? or do i have to do a different update because the phone is unlocked? Will it brick?
Thanks,
search around the forum i know this has been answered already... ill see if i can find it.
Welcome to XDA though
Edit: here is a link to unlocking your phone... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081072&highlight=unlocked+phone+can+i+update
Network Unlock
As far as haveing a Unlocked phone if it is unlocked to work on any network , AT&T , T-mobile , etc. , you can update , root , flash rom's anything you want it will not affect your network unlock. Hope this help's ya out.

[Q] Verizon Droid Razr HD:bootloader/flashing

I'm currently with the Galaxy S3, but been having signal issues and had my phone replaced 5 times so far...The CR asked if i wanted another phone and i told her that I didnt see one that i liked so far, so she said i could wait until the Droid Razr HD comes out,due to motorola having better radios...I just have to ask a couple of questions that I dont know
1. Can the bootloader be unlocked?
2. If the bootloader cant be unlocked can you still run custom roms?
3. Was there a lot of devs on the previously Razr/maxx?
nevermind delete question.. I have the answer to what I'm looking for

[Q] unlock bootloader or downgrading system under 9.18.79.XT926

I have motorola Razr Maxx HD... recently I updated system to 9.18.79. However, today i saw cyanogenmod 10.2 version roll out and I really want to try 4.3 version since I have been stuck on 4.1 for almost a year. Unfortunately, when I try using motopocalypse to unlock bootloader, it keeps failing. Than I was thinking maybe I can downgrading back to the old version than unlock bootloader but on the website it says DO NOT USE THIS UTILITY ON THE LATEST 4.1.2 OTA UPDATE. I guess 9.18.79 is the newest OTA version. Therefore, I was wondering if there is anyway that i can unlock bootloader under 9.18.79 or downgrade whole system to lower version. So I can install cyanogenmod 10.2
Thank you
You're out of luck, sorry. There's no way to unlock after taking the newest OTA.
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
lesdense said:
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
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Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
jackforever said:
Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
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Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
deeje00 said:
Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
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I'm in the same boat, I have one question. Does anyone use the Motorola way to unlock bootloader? I found the website to unlock, wondered why that isn't an option.
It's for developer editions only.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
dudewithspots said:
Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
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I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
swboland said:
I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
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Hey man, So I have SafeStrap but I am having a hard time finding roms that will work with safestrap. do you know of any?
dudewithspots said:
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
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None of the new roms only roms based on stock. Your gonna have to dig to roms started before April.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
no exciting news about the current version of unlock still?
The new one probably won't be unlocked.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
ajent said:
I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
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The odds are getting slimmer and slimmer as the days go on, but I have still seen a few people get replacements that have not been updated.

hi new here - sold the htc one

i sold the htc one just in time. the htc one plus has just been announced.
i am going to miss that phone for sure.
well lets move to the maxx. right off the bat i accidently updated the os. setup the nokia hands free charger and loaded up foxfi.
i have been reading up on these forums for awhile can someone please answer me
is 4.4 unrootable for sure. i am reading some mixed answers from this forum. if so which technique do i use?
is foxfi working on 4.4 or some alternative? if so what programs
i am unsure is the bootloader unlocked? and are roms, kernals, and bootloaders replaceable? again how>
No root for 4.4 just yet. Bootloader is locked on non-developer phones, and no big ROM action at all. When/if 4.4 pre-root fxz, or root exploit comes out, THEN will we see ROMs
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
belovedson said:
i sold the htc one just in time. the htc one plus has just been announced.
i am going to miss that phone for sure.
well lets move to the maxx. right off the bat i accidently updated the os. setup the nokia hands free charger and loaded up foxfi.
i have been reading up on these forums for awhile can someone please answer me
is 4.4 unrootable for sure. i am reading some mixed answers from this forum. if so which technique do i use?
is foxfi working on 4.4 or some alternative? if so what programs
i am unsure is the bootloader unlocked? and are roms, kernals, and bootloaders replaceable? again how>
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Where did you see a release of the one +??
cold21blooded said:
Where did you see a release of the one +??
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No release but betas are out. The finished product is expected to come out in a month or two
I accidently updated to 4.3 and don't want to do the same for 4.4 how can I delete the delete or where is it

Root for Maxx on 4.4.4?

Hey Guys, so I purchased my Maxx on release day and I'm currently on 4.4.4. I was just wondering if there was a root method available for me as I would like to have native tethering again.
Thanks for the help!
Matt
BMWPower06 said:
Hey Guys, so I purchased my Maxx on release day and I'm currently on 4.4.4. I was just wondering if there was a root method available for me as I would like to have native tethering again.
Thanks for the help!
Matt
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No there isn't.
Extremely unlikely.
No working method.. U have to pay 45$ atleast for unlocking BL if u r lucky.. I did in my droid maxx
Doesn't anyone search anymore there are 3 posts all in a row asking the same ? With the same answers.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080
me too
am also interested, thanks
root question
i have a Droid Maxx with unlocked bootloader and rooted on 4.4.4 and i was wondering if i take the update to 5.0 lollipop will i be able to get root again since i have the bootloader unlocked. Guess i am wondering if i can take the update and load Super user through my twrp recovery
Frank T said:
i have a Droid Maxx with unlocked bootloader and rooted on 4.4.4 and i was wondering if i take the update to 5.0 lollipop will i be able to get root again since i have the bootloader unlocked. Guess i am wondering if i can take the update and load Super user through my twrp recovery
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I debated way to long to respond to this, so I am just going to do it.
but.....
You're kidding right? :angel:
ssb13 said:
I debated way to long to respond to this, so I am just going to do it.
but.....
You're kidding right? :angel:
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no im not kidding hence why im a junior member and new to this stuff
Frank T said:
no im not kidding hence why im a junior member and new to this stuff
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Fair enough. However, if your BL is unlocked and you are rooted, I doubt you are that much of a junior.
That being said, its pretty hard to have an answer about a update that hasn't even been released yet.
Basically, once it hits, some will take it for the team, either on purpose or on accident, and information will be flowing...until then its only speculation.
I'm sorry if I came across like a DB.
ssb13 said:
Fair enough. However, if your BL is unlocked and you are rooted, I doubt you are that much of a junior.
That being said, its pretty hard to have an answer about a update that hasn't even been released yet.
Basically, once it hits, some will take it for the team, either on purpose or on accident, and information will be flowing...until then its only speculation.
I'm sorry if I came across like a DB.
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Thanks for the answer
Frank T said:
i have a Droid Maxx with unlocked bootloader and rooted on 4.4.4 and i was wondering if i take the update to 5.0 lollipop will i be able to get root again since i have the bootloader unlocked. Guess i am wondering if i can take the update and load Super user through my twrp recovery
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Unlocked BL means you always have root

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