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I purchased a new 2250mAh extended battery recently from megacapacity.com.
In a full charge it gives me 18-20 hours backup with 1 hr talk time only. I don't even use Wi-Fi, GPRS. Just simple calls.
Is it normal? i dont think. Original battery 1050mAh gave better performance when it was in good condition. What could be the issue?
I have tried almost every ROM but its almost same in every case.
Anybody having 2250mAh battery? pl share your thoughts.
Is there some problem with device not charging optimally or battery is bad?
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I have a 2250 battery purchased from megacapacity itself. The first charge lasted for 50 hours. The battery at the time of recharge was around 20% but I recharged again. I am sure it would have gone for another 10 hours at least.
This is with moderate calls, browsing, solitaire, always on Microsoft Push mail and lot of email reading and writing. I was basically testing the battery backup; so kind of stressed my phone a bit to see the actual backup time available.
On a related note, I was definitely not happy with megacapacity as they didn't send me the correct battery cover for vox and never responded to any of my emails. So now my phone is without battery cover. And I am planning to buy one more normal sized battery because of this. Thanks to megacapacity.
Sankar
PS: - I am using fireburned 6.1 stable rom 1.4.
I am pretty happy with Polar CEll 1300 mAh battery. It gets me through the day with heavy use! It dies when I am IMing over Wifi for a couple of hours in the evening.
Is it device charging issue?
My device was also working good with original battery. I used it for approx 18 months. After that (couple of months back) it started giving problem shutting down device suddenly while in the call. Its calibration was totally disturbed, i happend due to high temperatures some time when in car, i think so.
In nutshell that battery was of no use to be thrown out. Then,
I bought 2250 mAh but its not giving expected performance, its lasts for max one day with normal use.
Could it be due to issues with device charging circuit? It gets charged fully in one hour. i suspect there might be some issue with device circuit.
or finally battery is not good?
Pl advise.
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My device was also working good with original battery. I used it for approx 18 months. After that (couple of months back) it started giving problem shutting down device suddenly while in the call. Its calibration was totally disturbed, i happend due to high temperatures some time when in car, i think so.
In nutshell that battery was of no use to be thrown out. Then,
I bought 2250 mAh but its not giving expected performance, its lasts for max one day with normal use.
Could it be due to issues with device charging circuit? It gets charged fully in one hour. i suspect there might be some issue with device circuit.
or finally battery is not good?
Pl advise.
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parthabhatta & h4waii,
You both have good experince with VOX battery, pl share your thoughts on this.
Hi,
Actually I use a battery bought from megacapacity but its 1100mAh. The battery is not giving me any problems and after a few calls, roughly one hour surfing and some music playing 20-30% battery is still left. So what I feel is being 2250mAh it should last atleast 80% more than 1100 mAh if not double. You can check the Power management battery bar while charging - whether it shoots up occassionally at random or gradually increases with increments of 1% till it attains 100%. If it shoots up, try with USB charging and see if the problem recurs. Give it a try and let us know.
Just be careful of using BIG battery.
parthabhatta said:
Hi,
Actually I use a battery bought from megacapacity but its 1100mAh. The battery is not giving me any problems and after a few calls, roughly one hour surfing and some music playing 20-30% battery is still left. So what I feel is being 2250mAh it should last atleast 80% more than 1100 mAh if not double. You can check the Power management battery bar while charging - whether it shoots up occassionally at random or gradually increases with increments of 1% till it attains 100%. If it shoots up, try with USB charging and see if the problem recurs. Give it a try and let us know.
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Thats a good idea, sure i will check and let you know.
I charged my 2250mAH in an external charger, which removes any possibility of the device shutting off charge after it reaches a certain voltage. It allows the battery to make that choice. I had good use with it, very heavy usage and it would last drastically longer than the OEM 1100mAH unit. I'd recommend just buying a 1300mAH as the 2250 is very cumbersome to carry around on the device.
Again, I still have mine - if anybody wants to buy them.
There are a few issues with keeping the sheet in contact with the pins, else it will shut off randomly, I padded it with paper and pulled the pins out a bit.
i got mine a year ago from ebaystore dmc-batteries.
first i also got the wrong backcover, but they sent me very fast the correct one.
The battery is definitely not twice as strong as the original one.
At normal use I think the max is 1,5 day. Light use gives me 2 days but heavy use with bluetooth or wifi or gprs only 1 day.
as h4waii I had in the beginning some problems with the contacts and sudden loss of power because of that, but that disappeared with time
Still I can't make a point...I'cant determine were is good to buy (obviously referring xda user's opinion to how much the battery lasts) and where is better not to buy. LoL
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Still I can't make a point...I'cant determine were is good to buy (obviously referring xda user's opinion to how much the battery lasts) and where is better not to buy. LoL
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dmc-batteries gave me good service and are quick and friendy in their replies. I recommend them.
Thank you birdibird , but my intention was a survey to know what brand (seller) of ezxtended battery lasts more than an other. Just that
Because I've read of battery lasting 4-5 days with normal usage and others not lasting more than 1!
Hi guys
I should be picking up my SGS2 today and I was just wondering what exactly I should be doing with the battery? I've read in a bunch of places that draining the battery fully and then recharging it fully gives better battery life, but I've also read this:
Lithium ion batteries do not respond well to full discharge, you will see reduced capacity and early failure if it happens too often. In any case it is not possible to overcharge the battery on a BlackBerry because the battery and phone have enough intelligence to control the charge (unless the battery is already defective).
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(this is from crackberry.com but you get the idea)
What's the best thing to do?
And on Android phones, when the battery indicator shows 20% or something, is that when the phone is going to die? Or will it die at 0%? Obviously at 20% it would be to protect the battery but maybe Android has been programmed to show 0% when the battery is actually at 20%.
Thanks,
Elliott
read manuals !!!!!! You can see this
Did not receive an owners manual with my phone. Anyway...phone is charging now so too late I guess...
Starholdest said:
Did not receive an owners manual with my phone. Anyway...phone is charging now so too late I guess...
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The manual is probably stored on the phone, at least my new Ascend II came with its stored on the phone, you have to goto the big menu (forgive me for not knowing the technical term for it) to find it however
i got my battery fully charged...then in the first day i discharged it till 10% at least that's what my phone was saying
i read too that the new li-ion batteryes do not need to be "formated" (fully discharged till the phone dies and then fully charged with the phone turned off) in android case i think that thing is not posible coz it needs at least 5% to pass the bootloader and then begin to charge
anyway in my manual it says that the battery will begin the normal state after 8 days of use, until then it may disschage quick
i have a motorola defy
Calibrate the battery. Charge the phone while its switched off for about 6 hours, and then use the phone untill the entire battery runs out and it switches off on its own. After this, the phone should be able to use the battery properly.
i just used my galaxy and made it empty, then charged it full.
nowadays i have runtimes from 3days (72 hours) and then its @ about 5%
there seems to be a lot of back-and-forth regarding whether or not draining a battery is healthy; i drain my iphone battery down to zero about once a month and the battery has been doing fine for two years . . . whether it would be doing just as well without the draining time is anyone's guess.
I have always been under the impression that lit-ion batteries do not need any kind of special care or break in. But since our phones estimate the charge, we should occasionally let the battery run out to reset the calibration in case it gets screwed up.
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I don't think you need to worry about draining the battery till it's dead. My phone dies often and the battery is still kickin It's my understanding, that the purpose of draining the phone before you charge it is to calibrate what the OS says for charge remaining to the battery's actual charge.
Or something like that...
Hi all,
I have my sgs 2 since June and it's working pretty well apart from the battery drain which is very harmful in my daily life
I've recently flashed the Cognition 1.30 (last friday). Before that, my sgs was able to last the entire day before discharging with a moderate use (10-20 mn on games, few sms, 15 mn consulting mails, 1 hr on internet). Since i've flashed with the cognition Rom, the battery drain is really awesome!!!!!!
I fully charge the phone (switched off) then when i switch it on and the phone stays idle, after 1 hr or so, i've already lost almost 20%. When i'm on internet or playing games, the battery loss is approximatively of 1% per min.
I've made a full wipe and recalibrated my battery so normally it should at least last a day and thats not the case.
Could somebody help me or should i buy a new battery and test it ?
Because i relly like this rom and from others users, it has a good feedback concerning the battery use
Kind of makes me sad though. The device feels good in my hand and I like it overall, but the battery performance is unacceptable for me. I went to bed with it having something like 93% (dropping from 100% after like 15min of play). Not even 6h later I wake up and when I look at it, the battery is already drained to 85% only from standby (Yes,always-on mobile data is deactivated, power efficiency is on). After playing with the unit in train and some browsing while commuting for 30min, its already at 70% or something. During the next few hours, while working, I was just checking mails, using whatsapp from time to time and writing a few messages. No surfing, no videos no games.
By 3PM the battery was at 15%. Even worse, the damn thing takes some 4h+ to fully charge. That's just too damn long, my iphone 3gs charges fully in about an hour. What is also very frustrating is that the Sensation discharges a good portion of its current as pure HEAT. Never saw a phone get this warm afer 15min of normal usage.
I knew battery wasn't going to be stellar but this just sucks. Most of all that a full charge takes 4h. fail :-/
EDIT: Ok guys the 2.3.4 update did the trick! The battery now chrages fully within 2h and battery life has ridiculously improved!
I took it off the cord around 8am this morning. Now it's 2pm and my battery is at 83 with some 46min screen time and slight usage. Also the heating seems to be gone.
Apart from that, everything runs smoother with the new update. Guess I'm gonna keep the little guy after all
However, I did order 2 extra Ankers + charger (25$!) as additional mobilty is never wrong.
Before you return it, I recommend that you call HTC support and request a warranty exchange for the phone and battery.
You may have a defective unit.
While my battery isn't stellar, I get a minimum of 10 hours before I drop below 20% life (always-on mobile data off, manual syncing, not too many widgets).
Your phone battery performance is not indicative of Sensation battery performance for the overall majority.
Most have said that the battery gets better after a few full charges/discharges, and the todays new update is supposed to improve battery performance. Many people say the Sensation is better than most other 4G phones.
I dont play games and such, mostly phone text and email and it lasts me a day and a half. There is also a better battery you can get.
That charging time is ridiculous, which leads me to believe that your unit and/or battery is defective.
Mine charges from 15% to 100% in 2 hours. Same for almost everybody elses phone.
You might want to reconsider and try warranty exchange mentioned earlier. Also, I would suggest the ChiChi battery. I'm running from 7:30 to about 4:00 with my WiFi hot spot turned on for my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I'm using my phone for calls, texts etc., my battery still has about 30% left when I leave work.
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Dude , custom rom and anker / chitec battery.
My first time with my new anker achieved almost 24 hours on battery and almost 4 hours screen time with quite alot of use during that time.
Totally destroyed my oem battery in every way.
Also I would do a Warranty Exchange and with the new update I have seen a big differance in 2.3.4 vs 2.3.3 in terms of battery life and speed of Sense in general. I purchased a Anker 1900mah battery for $10 and fully charged to dead I get on average about 17-20 hours and I would say I'm a good moderate to HEAVY! user. Switching back to a stock battery after calibrating with the Anker Battery has also improved battery life seeing that I get between 12-14 hours with stock now. I would charge to 100% go to bed and wake up with about 97%-98%
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Pinball_ said:
Dude , custom rom and anker / chitec battery.
My first time with my new anker achieved almost 24 hours on battery and almost 4 hours screen time with quite alot of use during that time.
Totally destroyed my oem battery in every way.
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+1 I agree 110%, Try this though Calibrate the Anker Battery then fully charge your stock battery and see what battery life you get.
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Get a anker battery and download leedroid/android revolution/insertcoin. I guarantee you won't want to return it than. When I first got my device I was thinking about doing the same thing but after I looked through the thread I saw people were getting better results with the anker or chichi. Don't be discouraged that its a third party. It actually out performs the stock battery and embarrasses it.
Also download calibrate battery from the market.
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I had terrible battery life for the first week or so. 6 to 8 hours max, and 2 hours screen time if I was lucky. After conditioning the battery by fully discharging then fully charging on the AC adapter for a few cycles, it corrected itself for the most part. Yesterday I had 15 hours with 3 hours screen time and still had 20+ percent left. I have a chichtech battery sitting in my mailbox right now waiting for me to get off work.
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I had terrible battery life for the first week or so. 6 to 8 hours max, and 2 hours screen time if I was lucky. After conditioning the battery by fully discharging then fully charging on the AC adapter for a few cycles, it corrected itself for the most part. Yesterday I had 15 hours with 3 hours screen time and still had 20+ percent left. I have a chichtech battery sitting in my mailbox right now waiting for me to get off work.
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After I got my anker I sold my OEM and got two more. I also have a evo3d battery that I haven't used. I also have been hearing good things about it.
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really appreciate the good advice guys, thanks. I have done my bit of reading here and many many people here report having around 4h charge timr (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154780)
So you guys can not confirm this? If so, it might be my battery is faulty. I will upgrade to 2.3.4 and calibrate. Probably will improve battery time, I doubt however it will reduce the charge time...
Something is definitely up. I just got my Sensation 10 days ago and am still stock. It takes me ~2 hours to fully charge, and that's with me using the phone like crazy while its charging....and the phone light on the entire time.
And I get a good full days use out of it....sometimes 2 days if I dont use the screen much and just phone text email.
IT'S ALIVE!!!
Ok guys the 2.3.4 update did the trick! The battery now chrages fully within 2h and battery life has ridiculously improved!
I took it off the cord around 8am this morning. Now it's 2pm and my battery is at 83 with some 46min screen time and slight usage. Also the heating seems to be gone.
Apart from that, everything runs smoother with the new update. Guess I'm gonna keep the little guy after all
However, I did order 2 extra Anker's as additional mobilty is never wrong, and with such an offer it was a steal:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005DY4MAW/ref=oss_product
Also check if your phone is always awake because I had this and it had a huge affect.
I easily get 16-20 hours with LeeDroid's ROM.
i had the same battery issue with my first sensation. Even after several cycle of charging - discharging, battery calibration, the battery would not last for more than 7-8 hours. i exchanged it , for first couple of days, it didn't hold the charge for long,.but after i did battery calibration and update to 2.3.4, now my battery will last for 12 to 14 hours with moderate use. doesn't get hot with normal use, but over the weekend , i use map navigation and temp reached 48C. I think, i should not use it as GPS for longer than few minutes, or it may burn the phone.
Juice Defender Ultimate is definitely worth the tiny amount of money it costs. Just got just over 3 days on my Sensation, admittedly i hardly used it.
Usually i get a good 22 hours from it with medium use.
HTC sensation
Just replace the battery and you will see the difference.. my phone last ast least 10 hours.. its just amazing....
I lose almost no charge while it sits on standby.
I work 12 hour shifts, I listen to Music the entire time, browse, login to home computers for about 30 minutes using Teamviewer and keep up with RSS feeds throughout.
By the end of shift I'm down to 5%.
Sounds like you need a replacement, rather than a return, bud.
I'm running virtuous Inquisition 4.0, I've cleared the battery stats a couple of times and no matter what I do when I get down to like 40 percent, the phone crashes and then when it reboots I'm at 4 percent. Sometimes it just does it if I reboot. I can't figure it out. Its really bugging me. Anything I can to to fix this?
Bump? I've been trying to calibrate the battery like I always have since Donut. Has it changed in ICS?
Turn off Power-saving mode in settings and try
Where is the power saver in this rom? I can't find it. I've also noticed the battery draining unusually quickly from screen use. I just went from 54 to 30% from 10 minutes of use. Its been on 12 hours now and I'm assuming that's an inaccurate reading but still disconcerting.
What about the classic backup, wipe and flash technique? It's worth a shot if you haven't already.
Inquisition doesn't have power saving enabled, so that isn't the cause.
Barring a corrupt ROM or firmware, as suggested above do a superwipe and reflash both first, your graph looks like a failure in the battery.
Does it get hot, or has it ever been heat damaged? I'd suggest replacing the battery, if the wipe doesn't help.
Wiping battery stats doesn't actually do anything, unfortunately. Battery readings come from the battery itself. I've noticed mine's been pretty bad lately, 15% then if I reboot it's back up to 40%. 10 minutes later, 20%.
The best you can do is charge the battery all the way, discharge it all the way, charge it back up, and hope for the best.
I don't think its ever been hot enough to get heat damaged. I mean I suppose that could be the cause. My phone hasn't been through a full.power cycle in awhile so I will try to completely charge and discharge it for the rest of this week and I'll monitor the voltage readings. Its been a bit more stable today but still not lasting as long as it has been in the past. If the charges and discharges don't fix it I will reflash the rom. Still doesn't explain why like every other morning my phone will say 80 percent or something after being plugged in all night but after a power cycle it reports 100 percent. Could that also be a symptom of a bad battery? I can probably have T-Mobile replace it. Or maybe I'll buy an expanded capacity one. First I want to try to fix this one though. I'll report back. Thanks for the help guys
This is quite ridiculous. It was at 7 percent for like 6 hours today. I never know how much battery I have left. It's not like I'm getting bad battery life because I've been on for 14 hours today with heavy use but the readings are so inaccurate.
I'm going to do a full wipe, redownload everything, reflash firmware, radio, and the rom and then once I get everything set up again, if it's still doing it I will go get a new battery, probably one of those Anker 1900mAh ones that someone told me about on the virtuous rom thread. I'm not sure if it's coincidence or not that it started happening when I updated the ROM but other people aren't having the issue (except for one or two) so I don't think it's a ROM issue, probably battery hardware.
This is what VI with the Anker battery should look like:
Damn, that's impressive. What's up with that spike halfway through though? I think I'll just buy a new battery, even if this battery isn't broken, just because my god, 22 hours with 6 hours of screen on is incredible. I don't normally have more than 2 hours of screen time in a day and my battery will only last 16 hours
The spike is where the phone was reset, the battery percentage always jumps up 10%-15% on a reboot then goes back down in a few minutes. Also, the screen on time was closer to 7hrs
I would caution that I'm getting excellent mobile signal for 98% of the day, your results will probably be lower with your signal issues - have you tried the new radio driver from Tmobile?
I thought that this was an isolated case but I just had this as well. I've got 25% then I installed something via adb and need to restart. After reboot, the meter reads 45%. Absurd really.
My signal issues are not phone related, its just where I go to school. I did install the T-Mobile radio and have had much better 3g coverage and signal where I thought it was a complete dead zone. Most of the time I just turn off data and sync during school to save battery. After I did 3 complete drains and charges I have noticed that its been more consistent in reading. Still not lasting quite as long but its not stair stepping anymore in the graph. It is a little bit but not as bad as before. I'm still thinking about getting that anker battery anyway. I'm still only getting like 16 hours with 1 to 2 hours of screen usage which I would like to extend. I have a car charger so when it does die when I'm out its not the end of the world but its still irritating.
So I've concluded its a bad battery. Its started doing it again, much worse now. It randomly just loses power several times a day, as if I took the battery out but I didn't. I also.downloaded a detailed battery graph app, I took a picture of my voltage chart throughout today and its all over the place. I'll call to get a replacement tomorrow and then I might also get the anker battery. I'm getting sick of the phone just going black in the middle of a conversation or something rather. Other sensation owners have run into this problem.also.
have you guys all updated to the lastest firmware out and newest version of the rom?
No, I'm planning on flashing that tonight though. Hopefully it just turns out to be a kernel issue and it resolves when I update. That voltage graph appalled me.
when i first start using VI i had about 8-10 hour battery life, i looked around in rom manager, saw some cm9 roms, backed up my VI, and tried the cm9. didnt like it and restored my VI backup. Now my battery life is about 18-20 hours. i dont know what happened there but it helped alot. maybe somebody else with bad battery life should try this and see if it helps.
Well, I dropped my phone, landed on a concrete floor on the corner of the phone, cracked the corner of the screen and the camera lens. But I have insurance, so I'm getting a new phone within a few weeks (it's backordered right now through asurion) and when I get the new one I plan on purchasing an anker battery to solve all of the battery life woes. Asurion offered me an HTC Amaze but it has worse battery life, it's bigger and heavier and not that much better, so I'm sticking with the sensation.
So my maxx will drain to 1% battery in about 3 days with 3 hours screen time. The thing is once I hit 1% it can stay on 1% and not shut off for hours. Right now its been on 1% for about 7 hours, I have a youtube video going just to see how much longer it will go. Its been playing a youtube video now for about 20 min on 1%.
I just got this phone last week, is this because the system hasn't fully calibrated the battery? Or is the battery defective in some way? Its kind of annoying because you think you are out of battery but it keeps going so I don't really know how much battery I have.
Definitely not normal. I'd do a factory reset to eliminate a software issue and if the issue persists seems like it must be a hardware issue, exchange it
These sound like calibration issues. Can you fully charge your battery and then leave in on the charger for awhile -- like an hour or more? That should calibrate it correctly.
I have never nor will ever let my battery get that low. These batteries don't like to be drained and then fully charged it's not healthy for the battery. I don't let my battery go below 30 to 40 percent if I can help it. Most of the time I let it get to about 50 percent then I charge it.
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I have never nor will ever let my battery get that low. These batteries don't like to be drained and then fully charged it's not healthy for the battery. I don't let my battery go below 30 to 40 percent if I can help it. Most of the time I let it get to about 50 percent then I charge it.
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not to be rude but where is you information or evidence backing your statement? this goes against everything i know and i certainly always allow my battery to fully die then i fully charge it over night while it is off, i believe charging at 40 percent fools the battery into thinking that is the end of the battery's daily life span and therefore dying prematurely due to it believing that 40 percent is the end.
I do not have any real evidence except i've gotten exceptional battery life with my Ultra after allowing a full cycle (draining all the way and then fully charging while powered down)...i have gotten just under 32 hours with 4 hours and some odd minutes screen on with about an hour of voice calls and random other usage such as tapatalk browsing, internet, texting and maybe some email or youtube....i occasionally play some games like the new CoD Strike Force
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not to be rude but where is you information or evidence backing your statement? this goes against everything i know and i certainly always allow my battery to fully die then i fully charge it over night while it is off, i believe charging at 40 percent fools the battery into thinking that is the end of the battery's daily life span and therefore dying prematurely due to it believing that 40 percent is the end.
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The best source is battery university. Here are a few good links. In the first, look at the third column (Li-ion), as that's the battery pack in the Maxx/Ultra/Mini
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
From the second link (emphasis mine):
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life, other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery once in a while.
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The best source is battery university. Here are a few good links. In the first, look at the third column (Li-ion), as that's the battery pack in the Maxx/Ultra/Mini
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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And boom! All the I have known through all the androids I have has been wrong lmao. I really appreciate you posting this....all the years of trolling forums and reading what everyone is doing or have done to get their battery to last long for a daily cycle...appreciate this.
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So happy I seldom charge up to 100% and leave it sit. I also never let it get super low.
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Coming from a Gnex, I have a charger within 3 feet of me everywhere I go. I'm trying to break myself of the habit of plugging it in but mine still gets a charge at some point during the day, if only in the car. It has always been my practice to let my phones run down almost to dead maybe once every couple of months. I feel like it keeps the phone's battery meter calibrated although I have nothing to base this on.
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