Downgrading 4.4.4 > 4.4.2 - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Due to bugs that started from 4.4.3, i will be downgrading from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2
I'm running stock rom (4.4.4) with xposed + gravity box.
Each time when upgrading from 4.4 to 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 etc I would simply flash the system.img from the downloaded factory image, then reinstall xposed and root, hence not needing to wipe userdata.
Would it be ok to do this in reverse? Ie flash the system.img of 4.4.2 without wiping anything? Cheers!

Yeah it'll be fine
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did you wipe data to ensure your bugs aren't just incompatible data from an older version?
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rootSU said:
did you wipe data to ensure your bugs aren't just incompatible data from an older version?
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I haven't but many other users are having the same issues with 4.4.3
There shouldn't be incompatible data anyway as i'm upgrading from stock rom to stock rom. Flashing the system and boot images through fastboot would give the same result as updating via the OTA updates as far as i understand

Nbsss said:
I haven't but many other users are having the same issues with 4.4.3
There shouldn't be incompatible data anyway as i'm upgrading from stock rom to stock rom. Flashing the system and boot images through fastboot would give the same result as updating via the OTA updates as far as i understand
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Yes you're right it would. I always recommend a wipe after an OTA too. Your OTA doesn't know if the apps you have are compatible or not.
What's the bug out of interest?
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Yes you're right it would. I always recommend a wipe after an OTA too. Your OTA doesn't know if the apps you have are compatible or not.
What's the bug out of interest?
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GPS issues and android system wakelocks (higher up than screen, on battery usage)
Thanks for your help

Nbsss said:
GPS issues and android system wakelocks (higher up than screen, on battery usage)
Thanks for your help
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well 4.4.2 booted just fine, so i'll see how i go without wiping data
now to figure out how to hide the system update notification...hmm

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[Q] Android 4.4.3 on a rooted device

I own a rooted Nexus 5 with KitKat 4.4.2. Yesterday the N5 "saw" the 4.4.3 update, so I've downloaded it and then installed it, but while the phone was rebooting after the installation, it displayed the dead android logo with an error message. I've shut it down and reboot the phone but it is still running the 4.4.2 instead of the 4.4.3 and it doesn't receive the new update again. What can I do?
Download a rooted version of the 4.4.3 Stock ROM from here on XDA.
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SimoPiersi said:
I own a rooted Nexus 5 with KitKat 4.4.2. Yesterday the N5 "saw" the 4.4.3 update, so I've downloaded it and then installed it, but while the phone was rebooting after the installation, it displayed the dead android logo with an error message. I've shut it down and reboot the phone but it is still running the 4.4.2 instead of the 4.4.3 and it doesn't receive the new update again. What can I do?
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What's the error message? Did you previouslt root the phone on 4.4.2 by yourself or did you buy it which is already rooted?
shoeseat said:
What's the error message? Did you previouslt root the phone on 4.4.2 by yourself or did you buy it which is already rooted?
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I rooted it by myself on KitKat 4.4.2.
what system mods did you make? this includes kernels and any changes to ANY file in the /system directory.
Download Vomers rom and flash it. Its stock 4.4.3. That's what I did and its running smoothly.
sEnT fROM rOoT hEaVen
[Q] in title most definitely means this should be in q&a and not general.
The reason it failed is because you weren't stock (kernel, recovery, all system apps, no xposed framework). You need all of those to flash ota.
Like posted above, download @vomer's 4.4.3 ROM and flash it. It's the same thing. I ran it for a week and its golden
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Zepius said:
what system mods did you make? this includes kernels and any changes to ANY file in the /system directory.
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I had the same problem and the only "mod" I did was the tethering mod where I added the tether_dun_required 0 change to the settings.db file
Would that be the reason why mine failed? I unlocked bootloader, rooted STOCK.
deeznutz206 said:
I had the same problem and the only "mod" I did was the tethering mod where I added the tether_dun_required 0 change to the settings.db file
Would that be the reason why mine failed? I unlocked bootloader, rooted STOCK.
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No the settings.db is in /data.
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No the settings.db is in /data.
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Thanks. Then I am really stumped on why my update failed.
Is the recovery stock?
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rootSU said:
Is the recovery stock?
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Yes
Would probably need to know the error message to further troubleshoot the issue.
If you want root after an OTA, you have to fastboot flash a custom recovery then flash the superSU zip to root, so as suggested you may aswell fastboot flash recovery then recovery flash the stock rooted rom already mentioned. Actually fewer steps doing that.
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Help updated 4.4.2

I'm on stock rooted 4.4.2 running Franco kernel. Question is how do I update with out bringing phone to factory settings
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you make a backup in recovery, then dirty flash, dont wipe a single thing, 444 over it. if alls well after, then perfect. if you have issues, you have that backup in recovery to restore
simms22 said:
you make a backup in recovery, then dirty flash, dont wipe a single thing, 444 over it. if alls well after, then perfect. if you have issues, you have that backup in recovery to restore
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I downloaded then tried to flash the zip file in twrp .. It says it failed not sure what to do next and is 4.4.4 the latest firmware?
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ROADKING17 said:
I downloaded then tried to flash the zip file in twrp .. It says it failed not sure what to do next and is 4.4.4 the latest firmware?
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Unfortunately my clairvoyant skills aren't working today
perhaps you could elaborate on the following 2 things
1) what zip are you flashing?
2) what error are you getting?
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The pop up I get every 3 days for me to update my device to 4.4.3 I believe.. It's located in twrp under cache... When I try flashing it says error in red lettering ... Also I tried Uninstalling Xposed but seems not to change anything
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ROADKING17 said:
The pop up I get every 3 days for me to update my device to 4.4.3 I believe.. It's located in twrp under cache... When I try flashing it says error in red lettering ... Also I tried Uninstalling Xposed but seems not to change anything
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Don't use OTA updates. Just manually flash a rooted stock ROM via TWRP.
Click the link in my signature and go to the "resources" section. You'll find a full rooted, PURE STOCK 4.4.4 rom there.
Copy it to your /sdcard, take a FULL nandroid backup then flash the ROM.
rootSU said:
Don't use OTA updates. Just manually flash a rooted stock ROM via TWRP.
Click the link in my signature and go to the "resources" section. You'll find a full rooted, PURE STOCK 4.4.4 rom there.
Copy it to your /sdcard, take a FULL nandroid backup then flash the ROM.
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Will I lose anything on my device and will I be able to dirty flash
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ROADKING17 said:
Will I lose anything on my device and will I be able to dirty flash
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did you read any of the threads? the answer is in there.
ROADKING17 said:
Will I lose anything on my device and will I be able to dirty flash
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if the dirty flash is successful, you wont lose a thing, except time. if you have to go back and wipe, you will lose your data. so, make a backup in recovery first, before the dirty flash.

[Q] update with root?

Just wondering if anyone is working on a flashable 5.0.1 update or knows how how to update stock 5.0 (rooted) without a data wipe.
I've unrooted and flashed the stock recovery, but it's saying the binary is wrong when i try to update?
U cant update using air push if ur rooted u can simply flash a 5.0.1 custom rom
flatlander_2k5 said:
Just wondering if anyone is working on a flashable 5.0.1 update or knows how how to update stock 5.0 (rooted) without a data wipe.
I've unrooted and flashed the stock recovery, but it's saying the binary is wrong when i try to update?
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Read any of the recent threads. You have to be 100% stock. Just flash the recovery, boot, and system from 5.0 in fastboot then do the ota
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I just wanna update without wiping my data. Is there no way to do that yet?
flatlander_2k5 said:
I just wanna update without wiping my data. Is there no way to do that yet?
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Did you read my post? It won't wipe any data
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jd1639 said:
Did you read my post? It won't wipe any data
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I read it, didn't realise that that wouldn't wipe /data. Thanks.
If you're flashing system, you may as well directly flash 5.0.1 system

Reverting to 4.4.4

Hi
I'm currently running 5.0.1 stock rooted with TWRP recovery.
I'd like to downgrade to 4.4.4 to test maps and GPS.
Currently maps has me approx 15+ mtrs away and the orientation is wrong with me pointing in the wrong direction.
Do I simply need to download the image from Google and then clear system and cache, then flash the 4.4.4 system, cache and boot images ?
Will I need to downgrade the boot loader or radio ?
Thanks
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albert_htc said:
Hi
I'm currently running 5.0.1 stock rooted with TWRP recovery.
I'd like to downgrade to 4.4.4 to test maps and GPS.
Currently maps has me approx 15+ mtrs away and the orientation is wrong with me pointing in the wrong direction.
Do I simply need to download the image from Google and then clear system and cache, then flash the 4.4.4 system, cache and boot images ?
Will I need to downgrade the boot loader or radio ?
Thanks
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If you flash the complete 4.4.4 image everything (bootloader, radio and the system image) will be flashed and you`re phone will be wiped, so backup everything first before the flash. Just type in cmd: flash-all.
albert_htc said:
Hi
I'm currently running 5.0.1 stock rooted with TWRP recovery.
I'd like to downgrade to 4.4.4 to test maps and GPS.
Currently maps has me approx 15+ mtrs away and the orientation is wrong with me pointing in the wrong direction.
Do I simply need to download the image from Google and then clear system and cache, then flash the 4.4.4 system, cache and boot images ?
Will I need to downgrade the boot loader or radio ?
Thanks
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Try a different radio modem. There were posts a while ago saying people had gps issues on anything newer than the 4.4.2 radio
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Thanks.. I'll nandroid backup my phone and try this tomorrow!
Thanks
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Downgrade 5.1 to 5.0?

Hey, I was wondering if it'd be possible to downgrade from stock 5.1 back to stock 5.0.1 by running the flash command in the factory nexus 5 image (for android 5.0.1), also downgrading the bootloader and radio in the process?
I'm not sure about this device, but I recently hard bricked my moto g downgrading from the android 5 bootloader to the android 4.4 bootloader, so I was hesitant to just run the downgrade process.
Thanks.
arx160le said:
Hey, I was wondering if it'd be possible to downgrade from stock 5.1 back to stock 5.0.1 by running the flash command in the factory nexus 5 image (for android 5.0.1), also downgrading the bootloader and radio in the process?
I'm not sure about this device, but I recently hard bricked my moto g downgrading from the android 5 bootloader to the android 4.4 bootloader, so I was hesitant to just run the downgrade process.
Thanks.
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Yes, it's a nexus device. You can flash whatever factory image version you want on it.
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arx160le said:
Hey, I was wondering if it'd be possible to downgrade from stock 5.1 back to stock 5.0.1 by running the flash command in the factory nexus 5 image (for android 5.0.1), also downgrading the bootloader and radio in the process?
I'm not sure about this device, but I recently hard bricked my moto g downgrading from the android 5 bootloader to the android 4.4 bootloader, so I was hesitant to just run the downgrade process.
Thanks.
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jd1639 said:
Yes, it's a nexus device. You can flash whatever factory image version you want on it.
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The Ultimate Device - The One. Using 5.0.1 with xPosed - couldn't be better.
arx160le said:
Hey, I was wondering if it'd be possible to downgrade from stock 5.1 back to stock 5.0.1 by running the flash command in the factory nexus 5 image (for android 5.0.1), also downgrading the bootloader and radio in the process?
I'm not sure about this device, but I recently hard bricked my moto g downgrading from the android 5 bootloader to the android 4.4 bootloader, so I was hesitant to just run the downgrade process.
Thanks.
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jd1639 said:
Yes, it's a nexus device. You can flash whatever factory image version you want on it.
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zagorteney said:
The Ultimate Device - The One. Using 5.0.1 with xPosed - couldn't be better.
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Can I just follow this instructions to downgrade from 5.1 to 5.0.1? Or should I do something else? I'll lose root, right? 5.1 messed up my Nexus 5, battery is lasting 40% less than it used to, and Google Play Services seems to be to blame. Getting real sick of this.
Yes.
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ldubs said:
Yes.
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Yes I can just follow the instructions? Yes I need to do something else? Yes I'll lose root?
Adrianrff said:
Yes I can just follow the instructions? Yes I need to do something else? Yes I'll lose root?
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Yes, follow the instructions. And, yes, you'll lose root. And, no, you don't need to do anything else. Except maybe root it again you want that. Also see this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47156064
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Will it wipe data?
If i downgrade android 5.1 to 5.0 will i have to wipe? (My bootloader is already unlocked, as I have had it rooted before, but android is stock and I dont have a custom recovery)
Pure_Android said:
If i downgrade android 5.1 to 5.0 will i have to wipe? (My bootloader is already unlocked, as I have had it rooted before, but android is stock and I dont have a custom recovery)
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Anytime you flash any factory images you're device will be wiped clean. Data, app, everything. So back up anything important.
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Mojar7070 said:
Anytime you flash any factory images you're device will be wiped clean. Data, app, everything. So back up anything important.
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Is there any way to get my user data back, so app settings ans so on? If i just restore the data partition from the backup i made on 5.1 with TWRP i get a botloop. It makes sense that i can't just use my user data from a higher version but how do i fix this?
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Is there any way to get my user data back, so app settings ans so on? If i just restore the data partition from the backup i made on 5.1 with TWRP i get a botloop. It makes sense that i can't just use my user data from a higher version but how do i fix this?
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You have to flash 5.1 again. Restore data from TWRP. Boot the phone and use some backup program (titanium backup is my favourite). Flash 5.0.1 again (do not restore backup from TWRP), boot and restore from the app you choose. You will probably get some force closes, but you can then just wipe data for those FC apps.
Quick suggestion: if it is possible, make .xml backups for system data.

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