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Just looking to see what anyone from my area is pulling in signal wise. Not 3G but call signal. In my driveway im pulling in 0-2 bars,same with inside my house. When I was on Sprint my call bars were always full but my data constantly sucked. Now with Verizon my data is constantly awesome but my call quality/signal strength sucks to the point of static on some calls and text messages not being delivered/recieved.
Ive taken my phone into the local store and the sales rep there let me use his phone briefly to take past my house/driveway so I could see if this was an issue on his as well and sure enough, his Tbolt had 1 bar. So I called a tech and was on the phone with him for almost an hour doing checks on things etc,and found my phone was hovering between -91 and -101dBm which is rather bad lol. So Verizon extended my 14 day period alittle longer until a truck roams thru my neighborhood to test the signal. This is kinda bothering me since my area is one of the many slated to get 4G on June 16th
No idea where this is, but in Kenosha I have almost no signal unless I'm downtown by the Metra stop
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Eau Claire here. I run 3 bars most of the time at home.
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Hartland/Pewaukee area here. Usually have zero problems unless I'm inside my apartment. 3-4 bars of 3G are the norm in every area of SE WI for me.
I live in West Allis, and work in Menomonee Falls... No issues.. signal is a little weak but I tether all the time while at work and it's fine.
I'm near Silver Spring and Pilgrim.
I have my bike here today, I could swing by your area and see if I have the same issues... PM me some cross streets or something.
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I live in West Allis, and work in Menomonee Falls... No issues.. signal is a little weak but I tether all the time while at work and it's fine.
I'm near Silver Spring and Pilgrim.
I have my bike here today, I could swing by your area and see if I have the same issues... PM me some cross streets or something.
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Pretty much all the way up Appleton ave starting at Pilgrim up to the Marcus Cinema by Target (just short of Hwy Q) it hovers between 2 and 1.
Thing is, I have had a few techs tell me that the data signal and call signal are not the same thing. My data speeds are fine,ALOT better then Sprint, but its my calling signal thats off. I finally had the results of my ticket told to me today. Seems my area is going to not be an easy fix. There is an issue and supposedly the network team is on it, but something to do with living between 2 towers my phone is struggling to pick a dominate tower so its trying to pick one (or something like that, I was half asleep when he called back lol)
I wonder. When people were having issues with Sprint they would sometimes send them an Airwave unit to boost the signal in their homes for free. I wonder if Verizon would do the same since there IS a problem in my area. Off to research I go..Thanks everyone
My buddy works at the switch in appleton. I'll have him check it out!
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My buddy works at the switch in appleton. I'll have him check it out!
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Thank ya!!! I just got off the phone with tech support again and its noted on my account that they recommend a Network Extender but the best the rep will do is take off 50% of the cost of it. While its a decent offer, im still on the fence about it since I have to purchase it to be able to get a decent signal
You should get it for free, if it's their issue....
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Indeed, that was exactly my thinking. Sprint was tossing people Airwaves left and right for free if they had issues, guess everyone telling me that Verizon will "nickle and dime" me for everything has some merit. Too bad my trial period ended last night (it was extended until the results of my ticket were in).
Government report finds LightSquared's LTE interferes with GPS -- color us surprised
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/10/government-report-finds-lightsquareds-lte-interferes-with-gps/
you could link to actual relevant sources (listed with the link) and not engadget. they dont even report news, they just index index and write a short paragraph. I hate giving them traffic since they dont really do much.
Huh, who would have thunk it. Will there be a "patch" the the network now?
Actually my professor for my electromagnetics class was hired to fix this issue directly, and left after this semester to go work on it. He spoke a little about it but basically there will be a "shield" put up around the towers when they recognize GPS signals and sort of "saturate" the LTE signal to prevent gps drops, a sort of automatic interference detector.
However the radius for the gps issues is rather small, and not a problem for most yet. Also the reason for this is because Lightsquared uses frequencies that are directly next to the same frequencies used for GPS.
All in all, don't sweat it, its already being fixed, and if you knew my professor, it will work in the end He taught me everything I know about anything that travels through the air.
I hope he fixes the problem--I get lost a lot so GPS is a must have!
I was under the impression that LightSquared beamed the signal from space and that is why it interferes with GPS.... Verizon LTE does not work like LightSquared....
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I was under the impression that LightSquared beamed the signal from space and that is why it interferes with GPS.... Verizon LTE does not work like LightSquared....
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Yea, Verizon doesn't use LightSquared's LTE tech. In fact, nobody does yet. This thread is completely irrelevant.
HI
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Actually my professor for my electromagnetics class was hired to fix this issue directly, and left after this semester to go work on it. He spoke a little about it but basically there will be a "shield" put up around the towers when they recognize GPS signals and sort of "saturate" the LTE signal to prevent gps drops, a sort of automatic interference detector.
However the radius for the gps issues is rather small, and not a problem for most yet. Also the reason for this is because Lightsquared uses frequencies that are directly next to the same frequencies used for GPS.
All in all, don't sweat it, its already being fixed, and if you knew my professor, it will work in the end He taught me everything I know about anything that travels through the air.
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Ill be happier if the find a magnetic monopole...classical electrodynamics just begs for that missing symmetry.
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I was under the impression that LightSquared beamed the signal from space and that is why it interferes with GPS.... Verizon LTE does not work like LightSquared....
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The problem will be with the ground stations they want to install (if and when). The aviation community is just as concerned. See this link for more details: http://www.flyingmag.com/news/new-report-intensifies-lightsquared-vs-gps-fight
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/lightsquared-broadband-a-threat-to-gps.ars
Really annoying when it switches from H+ to 3G and vice versa since it loses connection whenever it does.
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Really annoying when it switches from H+ to 3G and vice versa since it loses connection whenever it does.
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So what do you want to happen instead? I'm not sure why its annoying, it's something that the phone should do since its an indication of what network you're on. Whether your stock or rooted that would happen. I guess you can just open up the ROM you're using and just turn the 3G symbol into the H symbol or turn the H symbol into the 3G symbol. I'm not sure if that's gonna work though but worth a shot.
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So what do you want to happen instead? I'm not sure why its annoying, it's something that the phone should do since its an indication of what network you're on. Whether your stock or rooted that would happen. I guess you can just open up the ROM you're using and just turn the 3G symbol into the H symbol or turn the H symbol into the 3G symbol. I'm not sure if that's gonna work though but worth a shot.
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It is annoying to some people because they are in an area where they are picking up two different towers and it is switching between towers, which means dropped calls. This is usually a problem if you are in a marginal area. This is what would be happening to me at home if I didn't have my microcell. The ideal fix for this, without the microcell, would be to be able to lock on to the the tower that is providing the 3G signal.
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It is annoying to some people because they are in an area where they are picking up two different towers and it is switching between towers, which means dropped calls. This is usually a problem if you are in a marginal area. This is what would be happening to me at home if I didn't have my microcell. The ideal fix for this, without the microcell, would be to be able to lock on to the the tower that is providing the 3G signal.
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What (s)he said. Also disconnects and stops videos I'm streaming, forcing me to begin at the beginning. Would prefer to just stick with the more widely available 3G.
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It is annoying to some people because they are in an area where they are picking up two different towers and it is switching between towers, which means dropped calls. This is usually a problem if you are in a marginal area. This is what would be happening to me at home if I didn't have my microcell. The ideal fix for this, without the microcell, would be to be able to lock on to the the tower that is providing the 3G signal.
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You just really like to poke holes or come at me don't you? Annoying, okay fine. I see how that can be annoying for those in marginals areas, to each their own. I'm more of a function over form type of guy and when it comes down to it, I'd rather just deal with the switching to know what network I'm on rather then changing icons or disabling it from showing the change in networks. Again to each their own which is why I offered my help. You're right, locking on to only the cell tower with 3G would be ideal but without said microcell, I think the OP is SOL for now.
Again, to the OP and to answer his questions, I don't know of anyway to prevent the change. I don't know of anyway to keep just 3G on or turn off 4G so it doesn't change so much. Like I said, I think the work around here would be to just change icons so that even if it does switch you'll only see one icon and thus eliminating the change in the status bar. If that works, you can always check the network in the about phone section.
by default it will latch onto 4g even if its a weaker (but usable signal) im trying to find the build.prop setting that will make it pick the stronger signal over speed. i remember seeing that before.
i believe
ro.ril.hsxpa=2 should put it to 3g. i have no signal where i work so i cant test. backup, change it, reboot and see.
Darunion said:
by default it will latch onto 4g even if its a weaker (but usable signal) im trying to find the build.prop setting that will make it pick the stronger signal over speed. i remember seeing that before.
i believe
ro.ril.hsxpa=2 should put it to 3g. i have no signal where i work so i cant test. backup, change it, reboot and see.
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I'll give this a whirl, completely forgot about the build.prop..since being on Abso I haven't had to mess with it in a while, I'll give this a whirl and let the OP know. Thanks Dar!
edit: just tried it, still sticking on H for me, but I believe it may be because of where I am located. I get 4G speeds/signal so it rarely needs to bounce to 3G, hope the OP can test this out.
as a super noob i was playing around in there not knowing what i was doing, and completely made it lock me to 3g/2g mode and i was rather upset lol.
thanks bacon!
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heres a good read
http://forum.smartphonegeeks.in/index.php?topic=2414.0
edit: OP is using an older radio too i see, might be worth going to 26.10.04.03_M, IMO has worked perfect for any rom ive used even ics roms.
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You just really like to poke holes or come at me don't you? Annoying, okay fine. I see how that can be annoying for those in marginals areas, to each their own. I'm more of a function over form type of guy and when it comes down to it, I'd rather just deal with the switching to know what network I'm on rather then changing icons or disabling it from showing the change in networks. Again to each their own which is why I offered my help. You're right, locking on to only the cell tower with 3G would be ideal but without said microcell, I think the OP is SOL for now.
Again, to the OP and to answer his questions, I don't know of anyway to prevent the change. I don't know of anyway to keep just 3G on or turn off 4G so it doesn't change so much. Like I said, I think the work around here would be to just change icons so that even if it does switch you'll only see one icon and thus eliminating the change in the status bar. If that works, you can always check the network in the about phone section.
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Just giving info bro, especially since I have first hand experience with this. It was a problem for me even when it was switching between 3G and Edge, which is what prompted me to get the microcell. Not everyone's situation will be the same as yours. If you feel like that is poking holes, then so be it, but the holes already exist because of this. No poking needed. The icons displayed are really meaningless in comparison to the actual signal. If you were experiencing the constant drop calls, I feel you would think differently. The phone is switching due to the cellular signal, the data just switches along with. It would be more useful if the op could lock to a specific tower. This is why the microcell works. It is the strongest cell signal near the phone, so the phone stays locked to it as long as you are in the proper range.
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Just giving info bro, especially since I have first hand experience with this. It was a problem for me even when it was switching between 3G and Edge, which is what prompted me to get the microcell. Not everyone's situation will be the same as yours. If you feel like that is poking holes, then so be it, but the holes already exist because of this. No poking needed. The icons displayed are really meaningless in comparison to the actual signal. If you were experiencing the constant drop calls, I feel you would think differently. The phone is switching due to the cellular signal, the data just switches along with. It would be more useful if the op could lock to a specific tower. This is why the microcell works. It is the strongest cell signal near the phone, so the phone stays locked to it as long as you are in the proper range.
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im goin a lil offtopic, but i need more feedback to continue helping. anyways, how do you like the microcell? i been contemplating getting one where as if i sit down in my apartment i lose my calls and some rooms i get nothing. its annoying.
@ Darunion....I have had my microcell for a year and a half now and, while it has not worked flawless, it has worked good enough to be able to get rid of my home phone. I still get an occasional dropped call, but at least the cell phones in my home have been usable since getting it. I do recommend it in those really tough situations where there is lack of even a decent signal in one's area.
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@ Darunion....I have had my microcell for a year and a half now and, while it has not worked flawless, it has worked good enough to be able to get rid of my home phone. I still get an occasional dropped call, but at least the cell phones in my home have been usable since getting it. I do recommend it in those really tough situations where there is lack of even a decent signal in one's area.
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i think that may be my next buy. tired of having to sit next to a window to even send a text. lol
Oh having it swap between signals will be a huge battery drain as it is always bouncing back and forth. There is an Something somewhere that should be able to stop it from trying to connect to the 3.5g network. ATT has no 4g. A seach will tell you what you want to know.
Im at the end of my rope and any help will be amazing. My situation is as such, Im living in a deadzone only 60-70 ft in diameter on EVERY network. it is just to the end of the property line. the biggest problem is that i dont own the home im living in so i cant get a CellFi and the owner wont let me get internet through our local provider. is there any way for me to LEGALLY boost my signal. the house doesnt have anything in it that would cause a Faraday cage effect. and please no smart ass answers. i am willing to bend the law a little as long as it doesnt affect the home owner, i know its not right but im going nuts here.
I don't know where you live but tmo/att may not offer good service where you are but someone like verizon or sprint may. Example, i couldnt hold a good signal when i lived out at the farm, but verizon offered 3g service there. We purchased their mobile hotspot package and i just connected to it via wifi calling. So its net that dont effect the home. Dont know if its a viable option for you. Something to think about.
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No this is the same on all networks, even the local ones. I have tried all of them, either of my own or a friends phone. This place is a signal black hole, but its in the burbs. Its just this one property that has this problem, and we live in upstate new York so we don't have thermal shielding like in the southern states. Its a real problem lol. Thanks for the reply though
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Are on you on contract with T-Mobile?
Yes I am
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I spend a lot of time in a convention center, aka concrete box, for work. This phone gets really bad reception when I am at work. I can connect to wi-fi so data is not a problem. But i miss so many calls it is ridiculous. And to add to the pain I do not get good reception at my house. I have talked to Sprint and they look at the coverage map, then tell me my home and work have great cell coverage. Might as well talk to a wall. At my house I have an Airave, still drop calls left and right. I am rooted, debloated, but not running any custom rom. Is there something I am missing? Like the phone, actually love having a physical keyboard, but am going nuts with the poor cell reception. Do other phones, Galaxy S4, have any better cell reception? Or do all Sprint phones have similar antennaes in them? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
I think the phone's antenna is a really bad one. I live in germany and I've got a sim-modded one from cornholio. when other phones get weak reception my phone gets "no service" (same provider). inside buildings it can get really annoying. I'm so glad I live in a major city xD
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I think the phone's antenna is a really bad one. I live in germany and I've got a sim-modded one from cornholio. when other phones get weak reception my phone gets "no service" (same provider). inside buildings it can get really annoying. I'm so glad I live in a major city xD
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I've noticed this phone always wants to connect @ 3G. Try switching to 2G. It doesn't matter for calls so why not use it as a workaround? When I need fast internet I just toggle back to 3G.
I've got an automatic 2g/3g toggling app installed. so I talk about bad 2g reception xD
thanks for the recommendation anyway
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comstyle said:
I've got an automatic 2g/3g toggling app installed. so I talk about bad 2g reception xD
thanks for the recommendation anyway
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I have that same issue, and when im on 2G and lost signal phone never catch signal back, best and only option is keep turn on 3G but area where we use phone must be with good coverage.
But ... i have second photon moded in PL in diffrent way and this phone dont have this issue with signal 2G and also have better 3G signal.. but realization not looks so good its uglier (and slot for sim is not push-to-push )
Welcome to Sprint. I've gone through 4 different phones they all can't be Bad.
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its sprint service, I live In michigan near detroit and out here sprint blowz I modded my photon with The aid of Cornholios Mod, and currently using it on straight talk with an AT&T sim service is nearly as good as Verizons, save for the CM10.2.1 3G handshaking Problem and the Buggy CM everyday issues, but the Cell service couldnt be better under AT&T, Id say stick to a reseller of their service and u will see a vast service improvement
Why start a new thread?
I had one of these back in October when I moved to Colorado. I don't quite recall, but I'm pretty sure my service was okay. I am now on my second Q since the first one started having pixelated display issues, and nothing I could do would fix it...I eventually took the thing apart trying to get to the connections, and while successful, I still ended up with crappy display so I am thinking there was an issue with something on the board.
Now i have a 'new' one and for the life of me I get 3g service maybe once or twice a day. I was thinking about bootloader unlock and flashing to a different ROM. I'd also like to find a way to see 'real-time' what the different radios are doing/not doing.
So what do you all think? New ROM?
I have had this issue with a few of my phones over the years. Especially the HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium).
In the Sim Modding Process it is possible that a few of the connectors on the mother board to get slightly bent and loose contact with the (black brass stick on ribbons that are stuck to the outside of the phone body. If you take the phone back panel off you will see these ribbons, they are stuck on the case around the battery.
I have some photo's of where the aerials are on the Photon but need to get to 10 posts before I can post them.
There is four different sets of aerials (Data Main, Voice Main, Bluetooth Wifi and GPS) pull your phone apart and make sure the contact on the mother board are in full contact with the ribbons. Do this by bending them up, when you put the phone back together they should be pushing hard on the contacts again.