According to the thread located here, Moto G handsets purchased from At&t/Cricket/AIO are not eligible for bootloader unlocking. Is there any way around this? I hadn't jumped into flashing ROMs on this device, but the stable release of Paranoid Android got me excited.
nograsswillgrow said:
According to the thread located here, Moto G handsets purchased from At&t/Cricket/AIO are not eligible for bootloader unlocking. Is there any way around this? I hadn't jumped into flashing ROMs on this device, but the stable release of Paranoid Android got me excited.
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Probobly not. Theres always the middle man, he unlocked mine (Verizon) he charges 45$ and only accepts phones from 2014+
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I have motorola Razr Maxx HD... recently I updated system to 9.18.79. However, today i saw cyanogenmod 10.2 version roll out and I really want to try 4.3 version since I have been stuck on 4.1 for almost a year. Unfortunately, when I try using motopocalypse to unlock bootloader, it keeps failing. Than I was thinking maybe I can downgrading back to the old version than unlock bootloader but on the website it says DO NOT USE THIS UTILITY ON THE LATEST 4.1.2 OTA UPDATE. I guess 9.18.79 is the newest OTA version. Therefore, I was wondering if there is anyway that i can unlock bootloader under 9.18.79 or downgrade whole system to lower version. So I can install cyanogenmod 10.2
Thank you
You're out of luck, sorry. There's no way to unlock after taking the newest OTA.
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
lesdense said:
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
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Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
jackforever said:
Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
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Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
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deeje00 said:
Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
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I'm in the same boat, I have one question. Does anyone use the Motorola way to unlock bootloader? I found the website to unlock, wondered why that isn't an option.
It's for developer editions only.
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Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
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Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
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I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
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I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
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Hey man, So I have SafeStrap but I am having a hard time finding roms that will work with safestrap. do you know of any?
dudewithspots said:
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
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None of the new roms only roms based on stock. Your gonna have to dig to roms started before April.
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no exciting news about the current version of unlock still?
The new one probably won't be unlocked.
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I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
ajent said:
I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
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The odds are getting slimmer and slimmer as the days go on, but I have still seen a few people get replacements that have not been updated.
I have a Cricket Moto G that I want to flash to the retail ROM. I know that the bootloader can be unlocked using sunshine but I want to know if anyone else has successfully flashed their Moto G like this. Excuse my ignorance, I just want to get a little feedback before attempting this myself.
wondering the same. have you unlocked your bootloader yet? and are you talking about the moto g original or the lte model?
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wondering the same. have you unlocked your bootloader yet? and are you talking about the moto g original or the lte model?
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No, I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet. This is my girlfriend's phone and I don't want to attempt messing with it until I have a few more answers. It is an original 2013 model.
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No, I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet. This is my girlfriend's phone and I don't want to attempt messing with it until I have a few more answers. It is an original 2013 model.
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It appears that there was a loophole for older Moto Gs running 4.4.3 via XDA's JCase's Sunshine.
That hole has seemingly been patched, but anther workaround might be discovered. The Moto G runs at near stock & as of Nov. 17, 2014, the Cricket Moto G LTE is running the second most recent version of Android, and is on par with the retail version. Within the next month, Android L will be made available for the retail models. Hopefully, Cricket approves the release shortly thereafter.
Only substantial improvement I could see would be allowing additional APNs to be added. My thinking is that once SIM unlock occurs, that this option becomes available???
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I have a Cricket Moto G that I want to flash to the retail ROM. I know that the bootloader can be unlocked using sunshine but I want to know if anyone else has successfully flashed their Moto G like this. Excuse my ignorance, I just want to get a little feedback before attempting this myself.
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Yes. I currently running stock retail version ROM from the repository here in this forum. They are supposed to receive OEM updates and they are
Flashable through TWRP. Of course, you need to have unlocked boot loader, root access and a custom recovery.
I had a stint of using carbon ROM, I'm only a temporary passenger to the stock retail version to get my GPS fixed. But yes it works just fine
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FYI you will be able to unlock boot loader with sunshine because the cricket version runs on 4.4.2
BBobby said:
Yes. I currently running stock retail version ROM from the repository here in this forum. They are supposed to receive OEM updates and they are
Flashable through TWRP. Of course, you need to have unlocked boot loader, root access and a custom recovery.
I had a stint of using carbon ROM, I'm only a temporary passenger to the stock retail version to get my GPS fixed. But yes it works just fine
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FYI you will be able to unlock boot loader with sunshine because the cricket version runs on 4.4.2
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is there a way to unlock other than paying 25 dollars, im a little hard up for cash and 25 dollars is no cheap sum
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is there a way to unlock other than paying 25 dollars, im a little hard up for cash and 25 dollars is no cheap sum
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At this point i am not aware of any other ways. The cricket version was unlockable until a month or two ago. They may have changed it. Its probably due to the cricket moto G being cheaper. Or they may just make it unlockable when the phone turns obsolete.
I know $25 is a bit much, but when you get around to it, for me, it was worth it.
You will not get charged if it doesn't work.
After much searching and learning on these forums, I finally decided to give this a go. After unlocking the bootloader with Sunshine, I used this guide and to my surprise it went very smoothly and worked wonderfully. I'm still amazed that I didn't somehow foolishly brick my girlfriends phone lol. Anyway, She'll be glad that she no longer has the very annoying speakerphone bug (extremely low volume on initial switch, remedied by pushing vol up or down) on her phone anymore. Thanks for all the replies!
Hi all,
I've tried googling around and searching the forums here for this question but I can't seem to find the exact scenario I'm looking for. Sorry if it's a bit of a noob question.
I recently bought an unlocked Moto G 4G from Amazon (Moto's edition, not GPE) and I'm currently using it on T-mobile. When Lollipop is eventually released, will I receive an OTA update from Google? Or will I receive it at all? I ask because I know T-mobile doesn't actually offer the Moto G so I can't imagine the update coming from them. I'm just wondering if I'll have to do some work myself to get it on the device or if I'll get something automatically.
Thanks for any help.
GuitarMikeRocks said:
Hi all,
I've tried googling around and searching the forums here for this question but I can't seem to find the exact scenario I'm looking for. Sorry if it's a bit of a noob question.
I recently bought an unlocked Moto G 4G from Amazon (Moto's edition, not GPE) and I'm currently using it on T-mobile. When Lollipop is eventually released, will I receive an OTA update from Google? Or will I receive it at all? I ask because I know T-mobile doesn't actually offer the Moto G so I can't imagine the update coming from them. I'm just wondering if I'll have to do some work myself to get it on the device or if I'll get something automatically.
Thanks for any help.
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The first part of your question Iv answered in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56290476&postcount=274
The second half of your question is if you bought it from a retailer sim free you will get an update direct from Motorola
In about phone if it says peregrine_ret then your country then it's the retail version
You can also check the Motorola website as it will list release date when they announce it
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
GuitarMikeRocks said:
Hi all,
I've tried googling around and searching the forums here for this question but I can't seem to find the exact scenario I'm looking for. Sorry if it's a bit of a noob question.
I recently bought an unlocked Moto G 4G from Amazon (Moto's edition, not GPE) and I'm currently using it on T-mobile. When Lollipop is eventually released, will I receive an OTA update from Google? Or will I receive it at all? I ask because I know T-mobile doesn't actually offer the Moto G so I can't imagine the update coming from them. I'm just wondering if I'll have to do some work myself to get it on the device or if I'll get something automatically.
Thanks for any help.
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You will get it directly from Motorola, at the same time as all the other retail moto Gs in your part of the world.
marcussmith2626 said:
The first part of your question Iv answered in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56290476&postcount=274
The second half of your question is if you bought it from a retailer sim free you will get an update direct from Motorola
In about phone if it says peregrine_ret then your country then it's the retail version
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My phone does say peregrine_ret under about phone. So that would mean I'll get an update from Motorola when they release their Lollipop version for the G, right? Thanks for your help!
GuitarMikeRocks said:
My phone does say peregrine_ret under about phone. So that would mean I'll get an update from Motorola when they release their Lollipop version for the G, right? Thanks for your help!
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You should do long as you are on stock rom and don't have any xposed modules which break otas installed but you can always flash a fresh stock rom if that is the case in order to upgrade
Will 5.0 bring a root method to the Verizon Moto G to the ones with locked bootloaders?
please, dont make a double-thread or another thread about lollipop doubts
anyway here is:
Chainfire has released an easy rooting kit for MOTOROLA variants. Grab it for your Moto G.
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esd316 said:
please, dont make a double-thread or another thread about lollipop doubts
anyway here is:
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Ty but im xt1028
If anything it will probably make it even more difficult seeing as it is verizon
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cell2011 said:
Will 5.0 bring a root method to the Verizon Moto G to the ones with locked bootloaders?
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Looking in my crystall ball, I believe that it will come unlocked directly from Verizon.
No really - there isn´t even 5.0 for the other variants and thus nobody can know for sure. On the other hand 5.0 brings additional security measures, so there is no reason to believe it will be any easier to root than it was before.
And one more thing - did you see the sticker "NO QUESTIONS in This Forum"? Not only is this question pointless, but it is in the wrong forum as well...
Please use the QUESTION and ANSWER section to get ANSWERS to your QUESTIONS
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Thinking about switching from Sprint to AT&T and grabbing the G4 when it comes out. Is the G3 easily "mod-able"? I only ask because my brother has the S5 and Samsung has locked that bootloader so tight, there's no way flash custom kernels or modify radios. Is it the same for LG devices?
Thanks
Ascertion said:
Thinking about switching from Sprint to AT&T and grabbing the G4 when it comes out. Is the G3 easily "mod-able"? I only ask because my brother has the S5 and Samsung has locked that bootloader so tight, there's no way flash custom kernels or modify radios. Is it the same for LG devices?
Thanks
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LG you don't have to unlock the boot loader. It's called something (can't place my mind on the name) that bypasses so you can flash custom Roms. If you'd look at the development thread you'll see all the mods/Roms
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Beware
AT&T has locked the bootloader on the G3, and likely the G4 as well.
The only reason we on AT&T have custom ROMs is because the code has been "broken" to properly sign custom ROMs and recovery images, which trick the bootloader into thinking that these are "allowed" software.
In essence, it is *as if* the AT&T LG G3 has an unlocked bootloader and development can thus move forward.
It may or may NOT ever happen with the AT&T G4. I don't think we know yet.
I suggest further reading and discussion around here before jumping in on the G4 is custom ROMs are an essential for you.