Am I Hard Bricked Or Not? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

So, I rooted my wife's old Galaxy S3 (Verizon). It took a bit to figure out as this is my first Samsung device I've ever tried to root. I read as much as I could find before I did the deed. Basically I tried a few of the known methods out there. Nothing worked until the Towelroot method. Worked like a charm. I didn't do anything weird. I put Rom Manager on it to put a custom recovery on it. I did forget that I didn't unlock the bootloader. Now the phone is/was on Android 4.3 JellyBean. Anyways I did EZ-Unlock to unlock it. I removed the normal bloatware. Nothing that would harm the phone. Then because this phone is running off of WiFi only and I kept getting the no Sim card message I decided to power down and put a non active Sim card into it. That's where things went horribly wrong. I turned it off, put the Sim card in, powered it back on or tried to and the phone did nothing. I got no vibration no lights not a thing. So after trying several button combinations I pulled the battery and plugged it in and that got the red charging light. When I plug it into my lap top it makes the recognize device sound but can't find drivers for it. I tried to do the hard brick recovery where you download the hard brick onto an sd card and then the phone SHOULD boot off of it. Well that didn't even work. I just can't understand what exactly understand why this happened or what happened to get to this point. Any help would be amazing guys. It is just a play toy at this point. But it's important to have the phone working in case of needing it for a temporary phone.

It is impossible to downgrade from the 4.3 locked bootloader to the unlocked bootloader. Verizon killed the loophole, so yes you are hard bricked. You were right in trying the SD card de-brick. Did you try this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581166?
Make sure you use a class 10 SD card and one that has the same storage size as the phone's internal storage (16/32).
If that doesn't work you need to get a JTAG repair. I know http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/ has a JTAG repair service. They even have a bootloader downgrade service to revert to the unlocked bootloader!

OK, so the de-brick method. The guy has 2 of those videos up. The one that I believe everyone is going off of is the one where he states you have to have a certain SD card. The other he states that it will work with anything and that it's much easier than the previous video. So having seen both, I don't honestly know what direction to go in. I don't have any income or money right now to go buy the right card if that's what I need to do. I also can't do the JTAG. However I did read up and watch a few videos on making my own jig. I also found one on ebay for 4 bucks with free shipping. That I could possibly swing. But 20 bucks or 50 bucks I can't. It sucks that this all happened, as much as I dislike Samsung phones because of their plastic feel and touchwiz I was looking forward to getting rid of touchwiz and seeing what the phone could really do. I was unaware that the loophole had not been reopened. I suppose I was reading things wrong then because while there are restrictions on what Roms you can flash I thought that we were still able to unlock the bootloader. I mean Ez-Unlock worked from what the phone said. Now if that's what hard bricked it then ok I guess, I just would have thought something would have went wrong right after and not wait until I powered the phone off. Meh, live and learn I suppose. Perhaps getting the jig or making my own for a buck is what I should do to see if I can get it to all work again so I can start from scratch. I should have known when I tried to root a Samsung phone from sprint a couple years ago that this was a bad idea. I soft bricked that one and couldn't get it to come back from it no matter what I did so a third party store had to do it for me. Then I soft bricked it again. Samsung phones hate me. LOL I appreciate the help. Any further help and or thoughts on this matter are totally welcome!!

Yeah once you use EZ Unlock the phone will still be fine until you try to reboot and it goes through the boot process. Once it doesn't recognize that part of the bootchain it bricks.
But yeah if you can make a jig to get yourself into download mode you can ODIN a stock 4.3 tar and be back up and running.

So it was EZ-Unlock huh? Alright well now I know. I'll run to radio shack and get the resistors I need and give it a shot. Doesn't seem like it's all that hard to do really, just a matter of hitting the right points in the charging port.

CoyotesFan4Evr said:
So it was EZ-Unlock huh? Alright well now I know. I'll run to radio shack and get the resistors I need and give it a shot. Doesn't seem like it's all that hard to do really, just a matter of hitting the right points in the charging port.
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Hope I am wrong but the jig won't help you. If it does make sure you tell us because using a jig would be preferred over the SD card trick.

ThePagel said:
Hope I am wrong but the jig won't help you. If it does make sure you tell us because using a jig would be preferred over the SD card trick.
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Jig won't work, not even worth trying.

Well, I tried making the jig and that didn't work. Not sure if I'm just not hitting the right parts on it or what? Now the battery is totally dead but I swapped it with my father in law's fully charged S3. Now I went ahead and bought the little jig thing that they sell on E-bay. Yeah that hasn't worked yet. I'm going to research into it more and see if I'm just doing something wrong or not. But it should be plug in and boom it goes into download mode. If not then next month I'll get the SD card I need and try that method. Right now I'm just stuck. And not only stuck with this problem but also stuck waiting for my upgrade phone replacement to come in tomorrow as I upgraded from my DNA to the One M7 but that one is on a boot loop so now I'm waiting on the LG G2. Ugh, my luck with phones is just not going in the way of Good. LOL

CoyotesFan4Evr said:
Well, I tried making the jig and that didn't work. Not sure if I'm just not hitting the right parts on it or what? Now the battery is totally dead but I swapped it with my father in law's fully charged S3. Now I went ahead and bought the little jig thing that they sell on E-bay. Yeah that hasn't worked yet. I'm going to research into it more and see if I'm just doing something wrong or not. But it should be plug in and boom it goes into download mode. If not then next month I'll get the SD card I need and try that method. Right now I'm just stuck. And not only stuck with this problem but also stuck waiting for my upgrade phone replacement to come in tomorrow as I upgraded from my DNA to the One M7 but that one is on a boot loop so now I'm waiting on the LG G2. Ugh, my luck with phones is just not going in the way of Good. LOL
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You're hard bricked, you need to do the SD card method or send it out for a jtag repair.
A USB jig will never work in this situation.

Well I guess that's what I'll have to do next month when I get paid again. Go get the SD card and give that a try.

CoyotesFan4Evr said:
Well I guess that's what I'll have to do next month when I get paid again. Go get the SD card and give that a try.
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They're pretty cheap on Amazon, less than $20.
Or you can jtag for $30.

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Backflip Bricked

I was messing around with the camera and suddenly it goes to the White Screen with the Motorola logo in the middle. Its just stuck there. I've pulled the battery for at least 30 minutes, tried holding down, up, camera, while turning the phone on, no luck. Every time I power it up its just the same white screen. It's doing nothing.
Are there any other manual methods of resetting this thing? Anything that can be done through the USB cable?
I've tried messing around with RSD lite but kinda useless if there is no image to flash from. I see there are no OS files available for this thing. I'm at a total loss.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Try removing the user data and cache partition from recovery
Man I can't even get into recovery mode. Literally, nothing gets me out of the white motorola screen unless I pull the battery.
greystealth said:
Man I can't even get into recovery mode. Literally, nothing gets me out of the white motorola screen unless I pull the battery.
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call ATT and get a replacement. its gotta be under the 1 year manufacturs warranty
tell them what happened like u wrote here and they have to refund you one
and if they dont
call again and make up another hardware fault or software fault story
Have you tried removing the SD card?
Thanks for the suggestions. However, I didn't purchase it from ATT so I"m unable to return it. As far as the memory card, I have tried this, no luck. It actually happened when I was trying to take a snap shot without an SD. It prompted me that it wouldn't save the image without an SD, then it crashed.
greystealth said:
Thanks for the suggestions. However, I didn't purchase it from ATT so I"m unable to return it. As far as the memory card, I have tried this, no luck. It actually happened when I was trying to take a snap shot without an SD. It prompted me that it wouldn't save the image without an SD, then it crashed.
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Even if you buy from a 3rd party reseller, the phone is still under warranty and should still be covered through AT&T. Complain to enough people and get what you want.
benmarvin said:
Even if you buy from a 3rd party reseller, the phone is still under warranty and should still be covered through AT&T. Complain to enough people and get what you want.
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Yea thats what i've been told. Guess I'll try a few stores and stir up some raise havoc. Thx guys.
You could try flashing the chinese flash-file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651417 It did not work on my phone, but supposedly this build has the cliq's root exploit present in it. It would not flash to my phone, but I think that may have been a driver issue. It couldn't hurt...
So I tried a couple stores, no luck. Since I bought it from a third party they need the number it was purchased under along with either the receipt or individual who bought it. I have none of that. So...I'm screwed. Ill try the chinese idea but don't know if that will work since the pc doesn't seem to detect the phone via USB in the state that its in. My last resort will be motorola directly and I know that will take forever. Any other ideas are greatly appreciated.

Can I unroot?

Silly question but I if I root and I need to do a wrranty claim, can I unroot by restoring the phone or is it rooted for good?
Thanks
From what I have heard...all that you need to do is uninstall the apps that show you rooted (Superuser, Titanium backup, ROM Manager, Busy Box, etc) and delete the update.zip from the SD card and you'll be all set.
I'm not completely sure on this but I THINK that's it.
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Does it show the lock on the phone like on the nexus one on boot up if you root it?
the only way to really unroot is to restore your phone using odin3.
this will completely wipe your phone including the os and reinstall it. you'll then have all the att apps if you deleted it. Make sure you keep it connected. I bricked my phone purposely by disconnecting it while it was whipping. There is absolutely no way to get it out of this brick. you'll end up having to get a new phone (all i said to att was i think the usb port went bad lol)
p8ntballsk8ter94 said:
the only way to really unroot is to restore your phone using odin3.
this will completely wipe your phone including the os and reinstall it. you'll then have all the att apps if you deleted it. Make sure you keep it connected. I bricked my phone purposely by disconnecting it while it was whipping. There is absolutely no way to get it out of this brick. you'll end up having to get a new phone (all i said to att was i think the usb port went bad lol)
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Haha that is one hilarious solution to getting a phone replacement. Did AT&T give you any issues?
Check out the one-click Root Tool in the Dev section. I believe the dev just updated the tool to have a one-click UNROOT option as well.
Nope, didn't give me any issues. The phone was completely bricked with no response to outer source power. Plug in the USB, not even the battery thing shows up. the ATT guy tried 3 different chargers and figured it had to be the USB too. Swapped out phones and he grabbed me a new one straight from the box.
I used to do this a lot back with my iPhone 3G. Not that I like to cheat companies out of their money... I'm definitely not for that. But really, the batteries would degrade an hour less capacity a month so i needed to replace a phone without making it seem like it's the users fault nearly every 3 months.
p8ntballsk8ter94 said:
Nope, didn't give me any issues. The phone was completely bricked with no response to outer source power. Plug in the USB, not even the battery thing shows up. the ATT guy tried 3 different chargers and figured it had to be the USB too. Swapped out phones and he grabbed me a new one straight from the box.
I used to do this a lot back with my iPhone 3G. Not that I like to cheat companies out of their money... I'm definitely not for that. But really, the batteries would degrade an hour less capacity a month so i needed to replace a phone without making it seem like it's the users fault nearly every 3 months.
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Sounds exactly what I went through. They had no problems exchanging it either.

bricked?

i tried to repartition using heimdall, and i think i bricked my phone. it doesn't respond to anything -- 100% black screen.
should i even bother making a jig or is the wicked witch finally dead?
Why not try a jig?
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a.vandelay said:
i tried to repartition using heimdall, and i think i bricked my phone. it doesn't respond to anything -- 100% black screen.
should i even bother making a jig or is the wicked witch finally dead?
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Worth a shot, a pack of 100k resistors is 99c at radioshack, but I'd put my money on perma-bricked. In almost all cases (I actually have yet to hear of a single case where someone managed to recover from a black screen brick), a completely unresponsive phone, where pressing the power button does nothing, means that the phone has been paper-weighted.
You most likely destroyed your bootloader. If that's the case, your only options are to either buy a riff box and reflash the bootloader and firmware directly onto the chip via jtag, or mail it back to Samsung and let them do it.
Sorry to hear about your rotten luck, dude. Happens to everyone sooner or later :\
Provided that the phone is in good physical condition and none of the water strips have changed colors, Samsung should fix it up under warranty. They will even pick up the shipping. Give them a call.
yep, this thing is a solid brick. i've recovered from pretty horrific things (e.g. the battery falling out during a flash) but never had it completely unresponsive.
i'll try to get a replacement. maybe if i say "i flashed a bad bootloader" the service rep will go along with it .
edit: i had to dig out my iphone 2g to use in the meantime. 1) at&t reactivated my unlimited data plan. 2) i installed gingerbread on it. lolz.

Newer captivates can't unbrick?

After 3 months with Samsung repair they finally agreed their Chinese knockoff 1010 Captivate was faulty and gave me a brand new 1108.
The Samsung repair guy even told me that they had different runs of 1007-1010, half of the batches were Korean parts and built solid, and other runs where it had many Chinese made parts and built hastily.
My 1010 had to be from China town. It had a bad speaker, flimsy power button, flimsy latch on bottom of phone that holds back cover on, it wouldn't stay in place. And the GPS didn't work for squat, which if it wasn't for the fact it sometimes locked onto one sat, I would think there wasn't a GPS chip in that phone at all.
I never dropped my old phone, and it even had a Bodyglove case on it since I got it. And now that I think about it, the old 1010 Captivate battery definitely said Made in China, this 1108 has a battery that says Made in Korea. I'm really happy with this new 1108 Captivate, GPS works great and everything is a lot better.
Anyway, long story short I used Odin3 1-click to flash KH1 and it failed midway through the flash for no reason apparent to me, except that newer phones are specific about how they like to be flashed? I used Odin3 1-click for some other bootloaders and it worked. I read about it before trying anything with this new Captivate and heard that Odin3 was supposed to be OK...
I'm stuck at the brick screen that has the icon Phone--Exclamation Point--PC. Nothing works to get into download mode, USB battery pull, all different button combos and timing with unplugging usb and putting battery in, releasing power button.
I've tried everything but a jig. Is this a known problem with newer captivates that a jig is the only way to unbrick it from the Exclamation Point screen? What if a jig doesn't work? OMG I don't know if Samsung will even talk to me if I try to replace it again.
The screen you see is download mode, just slightly different. Odin should detect it, and you should be able to try flashing again.
No luck, bootloader is gone and for some reason Samsung disabled 3-button. I'd say I'm really lucky the flash didn't stop at another point. I'm gonna need to try a jig.
Flustered said:
No luck, bootloader is gone and for some reason Samsung disabled 3-button. I'd say I'm really lucky the flash didn't stop at another point. I'm gonna need to try a jig.
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If Odin doesn't read it then it's back to AT&T. Tell them you accidentally pulled the usb from the computer while you were transferring files. I had the captivate from sept 10 til oct 11. The jig won't work. Its either go to AT&T or send it off for jtag.
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Anyway, yesterday I ordered a jig off Amazon Prime overnight and the Lasership guy was delivering it as I was leaving for work 8AM EST. CBA with the 300k resistor cause lining up the pins is a pain, and my hands sweat too much, hyperhydrosis... But dang that was a fast delivery.
And the jig worked too, as I knew it would because 3-button was still rebooting the phone, just not going to DL mode. And the bootloader flash randomly stopping and saying flash failed wasn't completely user error. I should have flashed the individual pda, not used 1-click, but Samsung changed something in the newer captivate batches.
Samsung probably felt like screwing everyone who doesn't use their s**tty touchwiz, that or ATT had a hand in it. Then on top of that the 3-button is disabled.
Of course the jig is still going to work because Samsung isn't going to JTAG everything, they would just rather use a bluebox jig on any phones that came in bricked.
Flustered said:
No luck, bootloader is gone and for some reason Samsung disabled 3-button. I'd say I'm really lucky the flash didn't stop at another point. I'm gonna need to try a jig.
[steveo314]
If Odin doesn't read it then it's back to AT&T. Tell them you accidentally pulled the usb from the computer while you were transferring files. I had the captivate from sept 10 til oct 11. The jig won't work. Its either go to AT&T or send it off for jtag.
[Flustered]
Of course the jig is still going to work because Samsung isn't going to JTAG everything, they would just rather use a bluebox jig on any phones that came in bricked.
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WOW some people can't listen.
And no one said send it to Samsung for a JTAG. There's a guy here on xda that'll do it for $40. Samsung will charge you over $100.
Samsung does not do jtag.. at least not in their service manuals.
I do UnBrickable Mod for $30 + shipping. UBM is far superior to JTAG. You can delete all the bootloaders on your device or replace them with your favorite Justin Beiber MP3 and UnBrickable Mod will still allow you to access download mode.
We put the device into a debug mode where it will accept a memory input from USB rather than booting from a flash.
steveo314 said:
WOW some people can't listen.
And no one said send it to Samsung for a JTAG. There's a guy here on xda that'll do it for $40. Samsung will charge you over $100.
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Sorry if it sounded like I was replying to you, I wasn't. My friends were also telling me "o no! black screen of death, jig won't work, it's bricked for good."
It was just a general statement, it wasn't directed at you. I didn't mean I was going to send it to Samsung to have it unbricked/JTAGed whatever. I meant that Samsung has purposefully made newer of Captivates easier to brick, but they didn't go so far as to make them permanently brick, they didn't disable the jig method.
Samsung knows they will see a lot of those bricked phones come back to them from Asurion/ATT Warranty Repair to turn into refurbs and they don't want to have to crack open every single one to unbrick them, that's why they left the jig method in place.
AdamOutler said:
Samsung does not do jtag.. at least not in their service manuals.
I do UnBrickable Mod for $30 + shipping. UBM is far superior to JTAG. You can delete all the bootloaders on your device or replace them with your favorite Justin Beiber MP3 and UnBrickable Mod will still allow you to access download mode.
We put the device into a debug mode where it will accept a memory input from USB rather than booting from a flash.
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Dang, that's awesome. I want to get that mod because I have a feeling a bootloader flash will brick the phone again, and I won't be so lucky with a jig next time.
How long after you receive the phone before the mod is done and it's shipped back?
Flustered said:
Dang, that's awesome. I want to get that mod because I have a feeling a bootloader flash will brick the phone again, and I won't be so lucky with a jig next time.
How long after you receive the phone before the mod is done and it's shipped back?
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It takes me about 1-2 hours total and I send it back as soon as I can. Shipping is the major delay.
This thread has been closed due to unnecessary flaming and fighting. Finish your business with Adam via PM.

Wipe Cache / Data without recovery possibly in odin? Or maybe adb?

Hello everyone, I've enjoyed my sgs3 for several years now a few months after its release. It's been through hell and back but has worked never skipping a beat until about a week ago.
The screen suddenly became non-responsive. I'm thinking the digitizer is probably bad or something. Someone recommended restoring the factory rom via odin as a last resort. Although I doubt this will work, because not only was I unable to unlock the phone in the rom, I also was unable to unlock twrp. This leads me to believe digitizer issues. Now I could buy the digitizer with a screen for about 65 dollars or just buy a used sgs3 for a few more bucks from swappa. The problem is I don't have those few bucks to spend. Hell I'm on selectel's cheapest non-data plan for goodness sake.
I have successfully put MB1 back on the phone via odin. However this replaces the stock recovery, and I am unable to wipe data in the stock recovery because you must use the power button to select the options. I ripped that out over a year ago when it was causing me problems with random rebooting. I did all I could to keep the power button going using several methods, which worked for a while but eventually I pulled the damn thing out. I realize I could take apart the phone solder two wires to the board and use that for a makeshift switch but I don't want to go through that in all honesty.
What do you experts here think? Is it now junk ready to be sold for scrap or given away, or does anyone know of a way to wipe data so I can at least get it to boot and maybe just maybe salvage this thing? I just bought a nice new hybrid case about 2 days before this occurred for about 4 bucks because my case was falling apart..
I'd like to be able to wipe data/cache from odin, or somehow use adb from the odin screen. Stock recovery isn't an option and I can't for the life of me get TWRP or CWM touch to flash. I don't know why but it fails every time. I've read and read until I'm blue in the face, and there's a sticky here in this section about using the sdcard to unbrick phones, but my pc doesn't have a card reader so that's a no go too.
Thanks in advance
griz.droidx said:
Hello everyone, I've enjoyed my sgs3 for several years now a few months after its release. It's been through hell and back but has worked never skipping a beat until about a week ago.
The screen suddenly became non-responsive. I'm thinking the digitizer is probably bad or something. Someone recommended restoring the factory rom via odin as a last resort. Although I doubt this will work, because not only was I unable to unlock the phone in the rom, I also was unable to unlock twrp. This leads me to believe digitizer issues. Now I could buy the digitizer with a screen for about 65 dollars or just buy a used sgs3 for a few more bucks from swappa. The problem is I don't have those few bucks to spend. Hell I'm on selectel's cheapest non-data plan for goodness sake.
I have successfully put MB1 back on the phone via odin. However this replaces the stock recovery, and I am unable to wipe data in the stock recovery because you must use the power button to select the options. I ripped that out over a year ago when it was causing me problems with random rebooting. I did all I could to keep the power button going using several methods, which worked for a while but eventually I pulled the damn thing out. I realize I could take apart the phone solder two wires to the board and use that for a makeshift switch but I don't want to go through that in all honesty.
What do you experts here think? Is it now junk ready to be sold for scrap or given away, or does anyone know of a way to wipe data so I can at least get it to boot and maybe just maybe salvage this thing? I just bought a nice new hybrid case about 2 days before this occurred for about 4 bucks because my case was falling apart..
I'd like to be able to wipe data/cache from odin, or somehow use adb from the odin screen. Stock recovery isn't an option and I can't for the life of me get TWRP or CWM touch to flash. I don't know why but it fails every time. I've read and read until I'm blue in the face, and there's a sticky here in this section about using the sdcard to unbrick phones, but my pc doesn't have a card reader so that's a no go too.
Thanks in advance
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Hmm, not sure, can you get the phone to boot? You have touch access still?
You could simply reroot the thing without touching the phone at all, then use Odin to flash twrp to your phone once it's rooted. Before you can use adb you have to activate debugging, which is impossible without being able to use the touch screen.
There is no adb command for what you're asking for. However, it's possible through fastboot. But I don't think we ever got fastboot to work for the S3. It's a specific bootloader menu similar to download mode.
If you cant do it in an easy way, I'd suggest getting another phone.
Thanks, yeah, I'm not going to repair it when I can buy one for 69-70 or get a better one for a little more. I'm not crazy about some of the newer devices being locked down so hard or not having removable batteries or sd card slots. I know they exist. Guess I'll have to do some homework if it comes to that. The touch access is the issue along with not having the power button, and no it won't boot. It goes past two boot images, static images, then loops during the boot ani. I've let it sit for about 10 minutes. This should be plenty of time.
Thanks for the reply
griz.droidx said:
Thanks, yeah, I'm not going to repair it when I can buy one for 69-70 or get a better one for a little more. I'm not crazy about some of the newer devices being locked down so hard or not having removable batteries or sd card slots. I know they exist. Guess I'll have to do some homework if it comes to that. The touch access is the issue along with not having the power button, and no it won't boot. It goes past two boot images, static images, then loops during the boot ani. I've let it sit for about 10 minutes. This should be plenty of time.
Thanks for the reply
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sounds like you're doing everything you can.
As a last ditch effort to give your phone a bit of life, you could just load the newest version. Sure it'll lock your phone and you won't be able to unlock it anymore, but if you load all the latest software it'll be completely stock. I'm sure it'll boot up then, then you can see exactly what you have to work with.
Thanks for the reply again, I think I'm going to stick with MB1 for now. I don't want to lock it up at the moment. Although I doubt the experience could be that much different, better in some ways and worse in others by doing that, I prefer freedom if I can keep it. ha ha. Master Cylinder has mentioned a few more things to try and should they work, I'll post the results here.
I did use a paper clip to activate a data cache wipe in stock recovery since I don't have a power button. This was the first time I needed the button in over a year, I was going to solder two pieces of wire to use as a power button but my soldering iron is shot.
thanks again

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