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What is the verdict on these memory optimizer type apps?
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/faq
I can't recommend Autokiller highly enough on Samsung Froyo phones. It was a must use, even with Voodoo, on my old SGS i9000, and the same thing on my Droid Charge.
True story: just this morning I was ready to throw my Charge against the wall in frustration. Ever since upgrading to EE4 the damn thing was LAG LAG LAG city, even with Voodoo. Phone was snappy as heck after a reboot, but after a couple of hours use, it started to lag, and then would get so laggy it was almost unusable. Seriously, opening apps would take 10 second. Auto-rotate the screen took 4-5 seconds.
I enabled Autokiller, set it "aggressive" and the phone's a speed demon again.
Try it, can't hurt your phone with it, might help it exponentially.
waiting for the phones built in lowmem killer is useless, use autokiller and you will notice an immediate improvement in phone response time. heres a point for ya, without it installed i have 78mb ram free,,,with installed 158ram. thats huge. for a phone. plus they dev just updated to reduce memory usage of the app itself, plus there are tweaks in the settings menu to make the IO scheduler more aggressive, improve sd card reads, battery life, wifi, networ,...its layered man. and free....whats more to love. the only other way i have found to improve phone speed feelwise is with kangfucius kernel and set that terd up to 1500hz with cfq. shazaam.
elucid said:
What is the verdict on these memory optimizer type apps?
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/faq
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Basically what you're doing is tweaking the settings for how Android frees up your memory. In theory, it should be good, because the defaults that were picked with the Android release aren't going to be appropriate for everyone. Just be careful not to be too aggressive or you might start losing functionality you want, such as alarms or background email checks.
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Basically what you're doing is tweaking the settings for how Android frees up your memory. In theory, it should be good, because the defaults that were picked with the Android release aren't going to be appropriate for everyone. Just be careful not to be too aggressive or you might start losing functionality you want, such as alarms or background email checks.
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Good point on not being too aggressive. The higher you set it, the more sticky sports ate pushed out of memory, so with the settings I have right now the phone kills some things that in the oat would have been running when I went back to them. I'm going to drop down from aggressive to strict and see if that's a better balance for how I use the phone.
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Call me crazy but...
Android is linux based right? I.E. it uses a linux kernel? I was under the impression that was true. If so, unless you're running into the problem of completely filling RAM and having to wait for stuff to be cleared, this kind of thing will not help you!
Linux intentionally leaves commonly used items in RAM in order to decrease access time. It is perfectly normal for such a system to run at 70-80% memory usage. It is, in fact, a GOOD thing, because it means more memory is actually being put to a potentially useful purpose.
That being said, if you're actually running out of RAM I suppose something like this could help.
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Android is linux based right? I.E. it uses a linux kernel? I was under the impression that was true. If so, unless you're running into the problem of completely filling RAM and having to wait for stuff to be cleared, this kind of thing will not help you!
Linux intentionally leaves commonly used items in RAM in order to decrease access time. It is perfectly normal for such a system to run at 70-80% memory usage. It is, in fact, a GOOD thing, because it means more memory is actually being put to a potentially useful purpose.
That being said, if you're actually running out of RAM I suppose something like this could help.
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Yes, yes, I frequently give the "in linux free memory is wasted memory" whenever people want to use some taskkiller app because they want a lot of free memory. This isn't about shooting for some high free memory number because we're Windows minded and think we need a lot of free memory, this is about finding the right settings for Android's own memory manager to keep the phone responsive. There's been something about my Samsung phones (except the Nexus S) where they just get laggy as hell with the stock memory manager settings.
As described above, my phone was almost unusable after a couple of hours booted up until I enabled Autokiller. Maybe something I'm running has memory leak; could be, but I pretty much run the same apps on all my phones, and the HTCs and Nexus S don't get laggy like the i9000 and Charge do.
This app, or the one named MinFreeManager really help. In the early days of the i9000 on MoDaCo site we were using the cat command to tweak the settings manually in our efforts to find a way to stop RFS lag before Voodoo came along.
I just installed this yesterday and configured it for strict mode. I also enabled all of the advanced system tweaks and so far I haven't noticed much if any difference, perhaps it depends on your individual usage and what apps, launcher, etc you're using. I'm going to leave it on and see how it goes though.
Any still using this? Any want to share what settings they use?
So i'm getting pretty unhappy with my Charge, the screen is wonderful, but the battery life, call quality (hissing and popping), and data connection reliability are really pretty hard to bear.
And i think its all Samsung's poor software support to blame.
However, I really dont know if i want to keep this phone or move to another, and one of the deciding factors is the RAM. The phone supposedly has 512MB, but when i goto task manager, i always see that there is 291(ish) of 373 free MB. I know that free memory doesnt really matter due to the way that Android manages things, but on the other hand, in real world experience i get re-draws all the time on launcher telling me that the O/S killed the launcher due to low memory!
Ive tried all kinds of ROMS and stock btw, and this is an obvservation that was consistent on Gummy 2.0, Gummy FE 2.0, InfinityRom Beta (10/13), EP4 leak, and now on Humble 5.0rc2
This is when im not running any apps at all. I understand that the O/S and launcher will take up some, and 291 seems fine im sure some of that is cached etc. But why is 373 the maximum that could be free? If the O/S and launcher are in that 291, what is occupying memory from 374-512???
is 512 enough to run on for the next year? We dont really know how much ICS will take.
512MB is the total RAM onboard, but a portion of that system reserved, thus 373MB available. GB is better than Froyo...it had 327MB available.
I highly suggest using the v6 supercharger script. After running the script select option 7. I never get redraws and don't use a task killer. Android keeps me at atleast 90 MB of free ram all the time. I also ran the loopy smoothness script and added my most used apps to the script so they stay in cache all the time. It is now faster than my evo ever thought about on cm7 and it had over 190 MB of free ram
Can someone explain the overlap between Fugu Tweaks, LoopySmooth, and supercharger? Does it help to patch all 3?
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Can someone explain the overlap between Fugu Tweaks, LoopySmooth, and supercharger? Does it help to patch all 3?
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Fugu replaces a couple of the lower level processes with a version from a newer version of Android. The current version of Fugu uses binaries from Ice Cream Sandwich. They're reported to increase overal responsiveness. I had decent luck with earlier releases, but I haven't tried the latest.
Loopy Smoothness elevates the priority of the launcher while it's in the foreground so that, in theory, it is more responsive. In practice, the results are mixed and it depends a lot on your individual setup. It requires some extra setup on the user's part as well to make sure that your launcher is being watched.
V6 Supercharger is an overhaul to the memory management system. Specifically, it modifies the way the built out of memory task killer system works. It's not a task killer on it's own, and it doesn't subvert the Android way, but it tweaks some things and modifies the points at which the OS kills processes to free memory. It also raises the OOM priority of the launcher so that it becomes a last-resort kill (to prevent redraws). This one is really, really mixed and really depends on a lot of factors. You can make things run really well with this, or you can make thing run really badly with it. It pays to do some research and understand exactly what it's doing to the system if you intend to run it. It is generally unecessary, especially on the GB builds, but with some tweaking, you can get some good out of it.
Hello-
I currently have a stock TF700 32gb and am sick of the lag. I'm not what you call a "power" user; I use the tab mostly for games, web browsing, document reading. Cash is tight so I'm looking into flashing CROMi-X. I'm an absolute newbie when it comes to rooting/unlocking/flashing etc so please pardon what may seem to be naivete.
Just a few questions before I go ahead-
What kind of performance boost (re: lag) can I expect to see? Is it dependent on apps used?
Will my apps all work with the new ROM as they work on stock? Will they be able to be updated properly as devs release updates?
How does updating Google apps work? If I flash CROMi, do I need to reflash a new CROMi version every time Google updates Gmail, Keep, etc?
I see that CROMi makes use of Data2SD (pardon if I'm incorrect) - does that mean that the device will now completely ignore the 32GB of internal memory and use the microSD exclusively? I currently have a 32gb Sandisk UHS-1 Class 10 microsd in there with about 20gb free (space used by mostly music/vids). Is it recommended to use a larger capacity SD card?
Thanks!
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Hello-
I currently have a stock TF700 32gb and am sick of the lag. I'm not what you call a "power" user; I use the tab mostly for games, web browsing, document reading. Cash is tight so I'm looking into flashing CROMi-X. I'm an absolute newbie when it comes to rooting/unlocking/flashing etc so please pardon what may seem to be naivete.
Just a few questions before I go ahead-
What kind of performance boost (re: lag) can I expect to see? Is it dependent on apps used?
Will my apps all work with the new ROM as they work on stock? Will they be able to be updated properly as devs release updates?
How does updating Google apps work? If I flash CROMi, do I need to reflash a new CROMi version every time Google updates Gmail, Keep, etc?
I see that CROMi makes use of Data2SD (pardon if I'm incorrect) - does that mean that the device will now completely ignore the 32GB of internal memory and use the microSD exclusively? I currently have a 32gb Sandisk UHS-1 Class 10 microsd in there with about 20gb free (space used by mostly music/vids). Is it recommended to use a larger capacity SD card?
Thanks!
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Slightly biased view point :silly:
What kind of performance boost (re: lag) can I expect to see? Is it dependent on apps used?
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I think you'll be reasonably happy
Will my apps all work with the new ROM as they work on stock? Will they be able to be updated properly as devs release updates?
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All apps that work now *should* work on CROMi-X as it uses an Asus base for the ROM.
How does updating Google apps work? If I flash CROMi, do I need to reflash a new CROMi version every time Google updates Gmail, Keep, etc?
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It works the same way as now - you will continue to get updates on the PS.
I see that CROMi makes use of Data2SD (pardon if I'm incorrect) - does that mean that the device will now completely ignore the 32GB of internal memory and use the microSD exclusively? I currently have a 32gb Sandisk UHS-1 Class 10 microsd in there with about 20gb free (space used by mostly music/vids). Is it recommended to use a larger capacity SD card?
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This is for more advanced users (very advanced?) and is entirely optional. You don't have to use it to start with and your sd card will continue to function as it does now. In fact you can create the same performance as data2sd with the stock rom - just disable fsync in the setup installer
Good luck!
A (very) slightly more un-biased view:
Installing CROMi-X will make you feel as if you bought a new tablet. The one you actually thought you bought when getting the TF700.
Data2SD and ROM2SD are just options for this rom. You don't have to use them and the average user misses out on nothing IMHO without them.
The biggest performance improvement is selecting to set fsync to "off" during the installation process. The risk involved with it is minimal since this rom is stable as a rock. Establish a solid backup routine for your important data (Dopbox, Google drive etc) and it is nil.
CROMi-X is Asus stock based, so using and updating your apps works just like on stock - no difference.
Go for it. You will never look back.
Can you turn fsync off post-installation?
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The biggest performance improvement is selecting to set fsync to "off" during the installation process.
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Can you turn fsync off post-installation?
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You can use trickster mod to turn it off if you want.
I am having two weird problems with my tablet since I installed CROMi-X
The first is that one site stopped showing in all of my browsers, except Opera in Offroad mode. It just affects one site (www.terra.com.br): when I was in stock, the site appeared as in desktop version. Now with CROMi-X, it just shows a derranged menu in plain text, and nothing eles: is not browsable anymore.
(thing is, Terra is one of the main news portals of my country, and I am really missing it)
The second problem: it seems unable to display video in lower resolutions. I am trying to watch some live streamings, and it locks on a frozen image with only audio running or choppy images with no audio, and crashes soon after. In my mobile phone (Sony Xperia SP, stock rom ), I am able to watch the videos, as when the quality falls for any reason, it seems to "re-calculate" the displaying, and keeps showing the images (just in a smaller screen). In the TF700 it got impossible. I am using the very same players in both devices (MX Player)
Perhaps is just a small tweak, a thing of settings that I am missing, but I really don't know what adjust should I do to have things working again around here. Somebody have any idea about what I should do?
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I am having two weird problems with my tablet since I installed CROMi-X
The first is that one site stopped showing in all of my browsers, except Opera in Offroad mode. It just affects one site (www.terra.com.br): when I was in stock, the site appeared as in desktop version. Now with CROMi-X, it just shows a derranged menu in plain text, and nothing eles: is not browsable anymore.
(thing is, Terra is one of the main news portals of my country, and I am really missing it)
The second problem: it seems unable to display video in lower resolutions. I am trying to watch some live streamings, and it locks on a frozen image with only audio running or choppy images with no audio, and crashes soon after. In my mobile phone (Sony Xperia SP, stock rom ), I am able to watch the videos, as when the quality falls for any reason, it seems to "re-calculate" the displaying, and keeps showing the images (just in a smaller screen). In the TF700 it got impossible. I am using the very same players in both devices (MX Player)
Perhaps is just a small tweak, a thing of settings that I am missing, but I really don't know what adjust should I do to have things working again around here. Somebody have any idea about what I should do?
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The first problem is related to adblocking - that site must be infested. Open the /system/etc/hosts file in edit mode and search for terra and remove all the entries or disable adblocking form adaway.
The second one - what are some examples?
wich Rom do you recommend that is stable and goes beyond 4.1?
Hi Roberto,
I was fed up with the stock ROM (and lack of updates), especially because the firmware was getting slower over time - maybe because the (out)dated firmware is not quite compatible with some newer apps, or - perhaps - even worms got into the phone because of dated firmware? I can only guess. Doing a factory reset didn't help at all.
So I tried Cyanogenmod 12.1. Haven't tried other ROMs yet, but I quite like Cyanogenmod. Overall it is way more usefull compared to stock so far, mainly because it is way faster than the latest OTA. However, I'm missing a few features from the HTC ROM / Sense; To name a few, the Camera application is way more spartan (i.e. no HDR, no Panorama mode). The phone application / contacts management is less featurefull and the keyboard is different (I got used to the one in Sense). But some of these might be remedied with some installable applications, but haven't had time to try them yet.
However, even with the 12.1 Cyanogenmod, I still had the issue of storage space running out for applications (I had the same issue with stock / latest OTA), which I was hoping the ROM would fix. I could only install a few applications before running out of space (and, moving apps to the "sdcard" offers very limited help). As you may know, this issue stems from the stock ROM (and all subsecuent OTAs) partition scheme, where ~4GB is available for apps (with the HTC system taking ~2GB) and ~10GB available for media as /sdcard/. (I believe the remaining 2GB is reserved for recovery etc.).
However, upgrading to hboot 2.16 will also modify your partition scheme, so that there is no separate partition mounted ad /sdcard/. This means there is just one storage space for apps and media. But also, you will not have a vfat formatted /sdcard/ anymore partition, which means no UMS mode (but, the stock ROM does not provide that, either). So no easy access to the phones file system via USB, but at least for my use case, this configuration is way more usefull!
Whatever ROM you will choose to try, make sure it will support the hboot you are going to use.
I agree with Wild Penguin
I use Snapshot release of Cyanogenmod 12.1 (since October 2015) and it's better in every way than stock. The only thing that is missing for me is the HTC Camera App which had superior photo quality and burst mode etc...
Big games automatically put files on 9GB partition so it's not that bad but 2GB system partition is a pain if you like to have more than 2-3 screens of apps.
There is no reason to stay on stock rom other than Camera App.
For my usage, I find that battery life is a bit better on Maximus HD 10.
After posting the above I noticed that the Google Camera app (I hadn't installed it previously) has some of the missing features the HTC Camera app had (HDR and Panorama), although some are still missing.
Hello XDA S7 users
So I was hoping for a performance change in Oreo but it's just the same nougat.
We have 4 GB ram and we don't need virtual compressed swap partition in RAM. This was useful in Old android days when devices had 1 Gb ram and that stuff, and I wanted to go swapless. I found this by simple Googling. It's a simple, small magisk module that removes the swap partition from RAM making it all available for the applications. Also to make use from Swap as on Linux desktops Swap should be 2X the size of the ram and not compressed as compression takes from the CPU power.. but this is not the case here, it is actually part of the RAM lol, and it's compressed
By installing the module you
- make all RAM available to the user and apps without virtual disks inside RAM
- preserve CPU as all the time the cpu is compressing and decompressing data to and from the Swap partition. Preserving the CPU gives you a performance boost as more CPU cycles are now available for user.
- Preserves battery by using less CPU power.
This was evident when I used it on the latest Oreo leak ERD2 and now my battery lasts +24 hours and the phone is very fuc*** faster. Apps open instantly and multitasking is way better 'comparable to iPhone' . I even increased animation factor as with default value animations were so fast
The module zip in the devs thread, download and flash in Magisk then reboot.
This module was developed by the talented dev @EarlyMon if this helped consider donating to him, check his thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-swap-torpedo-run-faster-reliably-t3766883
My setup:
Rom: [OREO][SE9][ERCB][01/04/2018] Galaxy S7 Edge - Oreo DevBase
Using the rom's kernel with Magisk 16.0 and Viper4android. Didn't try with Xposed.
My battery usage is attached too.
Is working for nougat?
AndrOmega said:
Is working for nougat?
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Yes working on nougat.
Zero lag in ui really neat
pingufanpoy said:
Zero lag in ui really neat
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im on oreo
pingufanpoy said:
im on oreo
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Try it on oreo.
applied on my Nougat, lets see how much juice I can get, thanks
Superman 2.9 stock settings. After applying the mod phone freezes very often, returns back to life after few seconds. this happens regularly at no apparent time.
On note 8 port,
Causes freezing , FC of Touchwiz, camera wont start up as well.
Tried a different launcher , same problems.
Please post your oreo set up, like rom etc...
Check the post I added my setup.
Following up frpm previous post.
There are definitely issues the longer you use it.
Seems like the more times you restart the heavier the stutter.
Seems like the zram is necessary because it is taxing on the processor.
My home key and power button disabled themselves after about 2 minutes after booting and even booted into download mode by itself until i uninstalled the module.
Too bad for those of you experiencing trouble, I wish it weren't so.
Zram (or Samsung's vnswap) is MORE taxing on the processor, not less.
But the additional swap does allow more bloat to be crowded into ram while swapping out essential functions for fast reloading. (Why anyone would build an Android where essential functions COULD be unloaded escapes me but it is what it is.)
There are no lingering effects to the module and it runs one functional command at startup - nothing extra runs after boot, less runs. The Swap Torpedo isn't a new tactic, just a new method that takes advantage of the systemless modification for startup thanks to Magisk.
Sorry to those that are having problems with it - thanks for trying it, and definitely uninstall it. Life is too short for a broken phone!
Also consider trying it with your next update, rom, or phone. The majority of Samsung user feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.
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Too bad for those of you experiencing trouble, I wish it weren't so.
Zram (or Samsung's vnswap) is MORE taxing on the processor, not less.
But the additional swap does allow more bloat to be crowded into ram while swapping out essential functions for fast reloading. (Why anyone would build an Android where essential functions COULD be unloaded escapes me but it is what it is.)
There are no lingering effects to the module and it runs one functional command at startup - nothing extra runs after boot, less runs. The Swap Torpedo isn't a new tactic, just a new method that takes advantage of the systemless modification for startup thanks to Magisk.
Sorry to those that are having problems with it - thanks for trying it, and definitely uninstall it. Life is too short for a broken phone!
Also consider trying it with your next update, rom, or phone. The majority of Samsung user feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.
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I tried with new S9 rom, it works best when I made internal storage swap, I have totally uncompressed 4 GB ram thanks to your module and 2 GB uncompressed swap on internel flash memory. I still find it a good move and it worked flawlessly with my other HTC phone.
Lol.. Pretty nice tho.. But showing the 4h sot isnt making it incredible.
I get 5h sot on superman 2.9 with normal use (youtube, games, music, texting, snapchat).
I am interested in the non-lag thing. Will try it, thnx man
do u use your phone ?
Does i need the module?
Sorry to disappoint you with my comment:
1st - 24 hours you are getting is probably because you don't use your phone at all ! same usage with a good Kernel should get you 2 days at least.
2nd - Samsung galaxy S7 Edge does not need any Ram management I mean come on it's a 4Go, there is a Ram cleaning tool already included in Device maintenance.
finally - After trying this module all I got was : performance decreased and weird UI behavior.
Do you really want a great battery and performance? go and try Devbase ROM + MoroKernel and you'll thank me later