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Autokiller memory opimizer (not a task killer)

What is the verdict on these memory optimizer type apps?
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/faq

I can't recommend Autokiller highly enough on Samsung Froyo phones. It was a must use, even with Voodoo, on my old SGS i9000, and the same thing on my Droid Charge.
True story: just this morning I was ready to throw my Charge against the wall in frustration. Ever since upgrading to EE4 the damn thing was LAG LAG LAG city, even with Voodoo. Phone was snappy as heck after a reboot, but after a couple of hours use, it started to lag, and then would get so laggy it was almost unusable. Seriously, opening apps would take 10 second. Auto-rotate the screen took 4-5 seconds.
I enabled Autokiller, set it "aggressive" and the phone's a speed demon again.
Try it, can't hurt your phone with it, might help it exponentially.

waiting for the phones built in lowmem killer is useless, use autokiller and you will notice an immediate improvement in phone response time. heres a point for ya, without it installed i have 78mb ram free,,,with installed 158ram. thats huge. for a phone. plus they dev just updated to reduce memory usage of the app itself, plus there are tweaks in the settings menu to make the IO scheduler more aggressive, improve sd card reads, battery life, wifi, networ,...its layered man. and free....whats more to love. the only other way i have found to improve phone speed feelwise is with kangfucius kernel and set that terd up to 1500hz with cfq. shazaam.

elucid said:
What is the verdict on these memory optimizer type apps?
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/faq
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Basically what you're doing is tweaking the settings for how Android frees up your memory. In theory, it should be good, because the defaults that were picked with the Android release aren't going to be appropriate for everyone. Just be careful not to be too aggressive or you might start losing functionality you want, such as alarms or background email checks.

chadness said:
Basically what you're doing is tweaking the settings for how Android frees up your memory. In theory, it should be good, because the defaults that were picked with the Android release aren't going to be appropriate for everyone. Just be careful not to be too aggressive or you might start losing functionality you want, such as alarms or background email checks.
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Good point on not being too aggressive. The higher you set it, the more sticky sports ate pushed out of memory, so with the settings I have right now the phone kills some things that in the oat would have been running when I went back to them. I'm going to drop down from aggressive to strict and see if that's a better balance for how I use the phone.
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Call me crazy but...
Android is linux based right? I.E. it uses a linux kernel? I was under the impression that was true. If so, unless you're running into the problem of completely filling RAM and having to wait for stuff to be cleared, this kind of thing will not help you!
Linux intentionally leaves commonly used items in RAM in order to decrease access time. It is perfectly normal for such a system to run at 70-80% memory usage. It is, in fact, a GOOD thing, because it means more memory is actually being put to a potentially useful purpose.
That being said, if you're actually running out of RAM I suppose something like this could help.

slight23 said:
Android is linux based right? I.E. it uses a linux kernel? I was under the impression that was true. If so, unless you're running into the problem of completely filling RAM and having to wait for stuff to be cleared, this kind of thing will not help you!
Linux intentionally leaves commonly used items in RAM in order to decrease access time. It is perfectly normal for such a system to run at 70-80% memory usage. It is, in fact, a GOOD thing, because it means more memory is actually being put to a potentially useful purpose.
That being said, if you're actually running out of RAM I suppose something like this could help.
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Yes, yes, I frequently give the "in linux free memory is wasted memory" whenever people want to use some taskkiller app because they want a lot of free memory. This isn't about shooting for some high free memory number because we're Windows minded and think we need a lot of free memory, this is about finding the right settings for Android's own memory manager to keep the phone responsive. There's been something about my Samsung phones (except the Nexus S) where they just get laggy as hell with the stock memory manager settings.
As described above, my phone was almost unusable after a couple of hours booted up until I enabled Autokiller. Maybe something I'm running has memory leak; could be, but I pretty much run the same apps on all my phones, and the HTCs and Nexus S don't get laggy like the i9000 and Charge do.
This app, or the one named MinFreeManager really help. In the early days of the i9000 on MoDaCo site we were using the cat command to tweak the settings manually in our efforts to find a way to stop RFS lag before Voodoo came along.

I just installed this yesterday and configured it for strict mode. I also enabled all of the advanced system tweaks and so far I haven't noticed much if any difference, perhaps it depends on your individual usage and what apps, launcher, etc you're using. I'm going to leave it on and see how it goes though.

Any still using this? Any want to share what settings they use?

[q] 373mb ram

So i'm getting pretty unhappy with my Charge, the screen is wonderful, but the battery life, call quality (hissing and popping), and data connection reliability are really pretty hard to bear.
And i think its all Samsung's poor software support to blame.
However, I really dont know if i want to keep this phone or move to another, and one of the deciding factors is the RAM. The phone supposedly has 512MB, but when i goto task manager, i always see that there is 291(ish) of 373 free MB. I know that free memory doesnt really matter due to the way that Android manages things, but on the other hand, in real world experience i get re-draws all the time on launcher telling me that the O/S killed the launcher due to low memory!
Ive tried all kinds of ROMS and stock btw, and this is an obvservation that was consistent on Gummy 2.0, Gummy FE 2.0, InfinityRom Beta (10/13), EP4 leak, and now on Humble 5.0rc2
This is when im not running any apps at all. I understand that the O/S and launcher will take up some, and 291 seems fine im sure some of that is cached etc. But why is 373 the maximum that could be free? If the O/S and launcher are in that 291, what is occupying memory from 374-512???
is 512 enough to run on for the next year? We dont really know how much ICS will take.

512MB is the total RAM onboard, but a portion of that system reserved, thus 373MB available. GB is better than Froyo...it had 327MB available.

I highly suggest using the v6 supercharger script. After running the script select option 7. I never get redraws and don't use a task killer. Android keeps me at atleast 90 MB of free ram all the time. I also ran the loopy smoothness script and added my most used apps to the script so they stay in cache all the time. It is now faster than my evo ever thought about on cm7 and it had over 190 MB of free ram

Can someone explain the overlap between Fugu Tweaks, LoopySmooth, and supercharger? Does it help to patch all 3?

cmdrfrog said:
Can someone explain the overlap between Fugu Tweaks, LoopySmooth, and supercharger? Does it help to patch all 3?
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Fugu replaces a couple of the lower level processes with a version from a newer version of Android. The current version of Fugu uses binaries from Ice Cream Sandwich. They're reported to increase overal responsiveness. I had decent luck with earlier releases, but I haven't tried the latest.
Loopy Smoothness elevates the priority of the launcher while it's in the foreground so that, in theory, it is more responsive. In practice, the results are mixed and it depends a lot on your individual setup. It requires some extra setup on the user's part as well to make sure that your launcher is being watched.
V6 Supercharger is an overhaul to the memory management system. Specifically, it modifies the way the built out of memory task killer system works. It's not a task killer on it's own, and it doesn't subvert the Android way, but it tweaks some things and modifies the points at which the OS kills processes to free memory. It also raises the OOM priority of the launcher so that it becomes a last-resort kill (to prevent redraws). This one is really, really mixed and really depends on a lot of factors. You can make things run really well with this, or you can make thing run really badly with it. It pays to do some research and understand exactly what it's doing to the system if you intend to run it. It is generally unecessary, especially on the GB builds, but with some tweaking, you can get some good out of it.

[MOD] Fixing N7's RAM issues

The following are two ram optimising scripts that actually do something. They will ensure a fluid experience by keeping a minimum of 100mb of ram free. Simple as that.
STEPS:
Download zip and extract files "boost" and "freeram".
On the tablet , use a root file manager
Paste files in /system/bin (system needs to be re-writable obviously)
Set permissions to rwxr--r--
Activate scripts manually after every boot using android terminal emulator:
1) free ram (to see ram usage)
2) su
3) freeram (no spaces)
4) boost
5) free ram (to see ram usage - compare to values in step1)
6) Profit
Explanation:
"boost" - activates Adrenaline Boost V3 (i take no credit for this script). What this does is clear the ram cache, freeing up ram storage.
"freeram" - a script i made, adjusts minfree values (android's built in ram manager) to kill off more empty apps from ram when ram usage exceeds certain values - not a task killer, so doesn't affect battery life
In android terminal emulator:
"su"
"cat /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree"
-will show you the prior minfree values, "freeram" script adjusts these to 8192, 10240, 12288, 21000, 23000, 26000
Notes:
All changes reset on boot, so you'll need to to run everytime you reboot
check your ram usage before with: "free ram"
These two scripts will generally ensure about 300-400mb free ram always.
Removing widgets will improve this also.
If after a while nexus is feeling slow again, run "boost" script.
Fstrim or "lagfix" also helps with those having slow emmc issues
Enjoy more free ram

Or download an app called autokiller memory. Works miracles

mrazndead said:
Or download an app called autokiller memory. Works miracles
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didn't know about that app.
This is more geeky and cleaner though, who doesn't want to use terminal??
And i don't think the app flushes the ram cache (similar to the adrenaline v3 script)

According to anandtech:
"I’m told that TRIM support has been part of the eMMC standard since around version 4.2, it was just a matter of enabling it in software. The result is that the new Nexus 7 shouldn’t have these aging affects at all. Better yet, fstrim support has also been added to the old Nexus 7 with as of the Android 4.3 update, so if you’ve got a Nexus 7 that feels slow, I/O performance should get better after fstrim runs in the background. I'm checking on whether the other Nexus devices have also had TRIM support added. I would consider the slow storage aging problem fixed as of now, and Google took the eMMC and storage I/O performance issues with the previous Nexus 7 to heart for this version."
Link: http://anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4
So that's good news for poorly ageing nexus 7's, just update to 4.3 instead of running lagfix

@mods: close/move the thread please.
this is another minfree / lowmemkiller script like Supercharger V6 which offers nothing more than actually less memory. What do I mean? It makes the device start killing apps/processes much sooner rendering it multitask-less. Provides a boost but at a terrible cost: much less mem available to apps...

I was able to multitask smoothly between 8 open apps without reloads. And I've been using this setup for 2mths or so.
I had memory issues with my n7, and this solved them, and I wanted to share as users (can't remember the thread name) were discussing slowness due to limited free ram, and this worked for me.
Mods feel free to close, sharing experiences is not appreciated obviously..

mpokwsths said:
@mods: close/move the thread please.
this is another minfree / lowmemkiller script like Supercharger V6 which offers nothing more than actually less memory. What do I mean? It makes the device start killing apps/processes much sooner rendering it multitask-less. Provides a boost but at a terrible cost: much less mem available to apps...
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So basically, the Xda crowd is too dumb to make up their own minds?
Shouldn't it be up to the individual to try this (and any other) mod freely. Your personal experience with similar mods is welcome, but you trying to tell others what is best for them is way out of line imo.
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Shared knowledge = more knowledge imho
Thanks for sharing it! :beer:

On linux systems having a little amount of free ram is not necessarily a bad thing. it means that the apps you use most are available to be opened very quickly.
OP: what do you mean by "empty app"?

Appreciate your effort, OP. However, a more user-friendly way is to install an app like Rom Toolbox(and others) and change minfree. RT has presets, and set at boot features. I personally subscribe to the thought process that unused ram is wasted ram.

Nbsss said:
According to anandtech:
"I’m told that TRIM support has been part of the eMMC standard since around version 4.2, it was just a matter of enabling it in software. The result is that the new Nexus 7 shouldn’t have these aging affects at all. Better yet, fstrim support has also been added to the old Nexus 7 with as of the Android 4.3 update, so if you’ve got a Nexus 7 that feels slow, I/O performance should get better after fstrim runs in the background. I'm checking on whether the other Nexus devices have also had TRIM support added. I would consider the slow storage aging problem fixed as of now, and Google took the eMMC and storage I/O performance issues with the previous Nexus 7 to heart for this version."
Link: http://anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4
So that's good news for poorly ageing nexus 7's, just update to 4.3 instead of running lagfix
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I wish My poorly aging Nexus 7 hasn't improved at all since the 4.3 update. In fact I think it's running even slower. I haven't run lagfix since the update though since I lost root and I'm waiting for Wug's updated toolkit to get it back. (I know I can restore root with other methods but I'm lazy and toolkits just make it easier.)
Aside from the TRIM issue I loved my old Nexus, but 16gb just wasn't enough space anymore and any time I dipped below 4gb of remaining storage it would lag so horribly I'd have to wipe the whole thing and start over if I wanted it to be buttery smooth again, even after using lagfix. Lagfix helped a bit, but it was still crawling compared to a freshly wiped tablet.
I've got a 2013 Nexus 7 on the way though so hopefully what you said about TRIM on the newer model is true and this one won't age as poorly as the original. Even if it does, having an extra 16gb of wiggle room can't hurt.

My thoughts
The most aggressive lvl on the minfree script is 26K ie 26,000*4/1024 = 101mb
Having less than 100mb of ram (ie over 90% ram used) slows down my n7 and its really bad when i have 19-45mb of ram left...
The fact that the script resets on reboot means i can easily compare the difference, for ME it helps and i can't notice an impact on multitasking (and thx for teaching me how to use terminal to check ram usage )

mrazndead said:
Or download an app called autokiller memory. Works miracles
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Since i use this app my ram is always ok. Thanks so much, really improved a lot

Best optimization hack in my experience: RAMEXPANDER

TL;DR Ramexpander set at 4gb swap file makes all the difference for this tablet
A little background: I've been modifying my phones since the galaxy nexus. I've tried greenify, amplify, debloating, kernels, overclocking, cleaning, l-speed, etc. I like to run a lot of apps, and all of my phones and devices, including the Nexus 6p (until the Pixel XL) lagged. RamExpander has been the solution every time, and the fire hd is no different. This one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.swapit.expander.de&hl=en .
Use the free version here to check if your device is compatible: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roehsoft.meminfo&hl=en but I know a rooted 2017 Hd 10 running 5.6 is compatible.
Maybe your device runs perfectly already and/or you're using less apps. That's great! But I have seen a few threads about trying to optimize performance. IF your device lags, this app will make an immediate night and day difference.

I'll give it a try

I have L Speed and Greenify installed on all of my rooted Android devices. Could you please explain to us how RAMEXPANDER is better than L Speed/Greenify? I'm curious. I'll do anything to optimize these Fire HDs even more. I rooted them and installed Google everything on them so my parents don't have to deal with the Fire OS.

Is Ram Expander really worth $10? I wanted to try it and found an APK. The damned thing was contaminated with neverending ads appearing every 10 seconds... I had to uninstall and run Malwarebytes to get the tablet working fine again. I assume the "real" paid version has no crappy ads?
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bakshi said:
I have L Speed and Greenify installed on all of my rooted Android devices. Could you please explain to us how RAMEXPANDER is better than L Speed/Greenify? I'm curious. I'll do anything to optimize these Fire HDs even more. I rooted them and installed Google everything on them so my parents don't have to deal with the Fire OS.
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I know Greenify already and use it on my tablets and cell phones. But it's the 1st time ever I hear about L Speed. Is it complicated to set up?

The 2GB memory is pretty limited, and disabling some Amazon services and avoiding apps that remain persistent in memory is highly recommended. I installed the official Google app to get Google Assistant, but found that it used too much ram. I recommended installing system monitor and monitoring the active processes, sorted by ram usage, to identify bloated user apps.

bakshi said:
I have L Speed and Greenify installed on all of my rooted Android devices. Could you please explain to us how RAMEXPANDER is better than L Speed/Greenify? I'm curious. I'll do anything to optimize these Fire HDs even more. I rooted them and installed Google everything on them so my parents don't have to deal with the Fire OS.
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so what ram expander does is it's just a super easy way to setup a swap file (space on the internal sd card that will be used as RAM). Why is it better than all the other stuff I've tried? It's empirical, not logical. That is to say, every phone that's lagged, if RAMEXPANDER is compatible, I've installed and it's made a huge difference in performance, every single time. I've messed around with a lot of optimization tools beforehand and results have been mixed. I can improve battery life usually, but the phone will still lag, with those tools and with all the apps i run. Also, each tool is just more strain on the system.
metaleloi666 said:
Is Ram Expander really worth $10? I wanted to try it and found an APK. The damned thing was contaminated with neverending ads appearing every 10 seconds... I had to uninstall and run Malwarebytes to get the tablet working fine again. I assume the "real" paid version has no crappy ads?
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I know Greenify already and use it on my tablets and cell phones. But it's the 1st time ever I hear about L Speed. Is it complicated to set up?
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I've never seen an add in the app. You got a bad APK.
An alternative, I've found, though less intuitive is an app called apps2sd. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
It's a little less intuitive, but basically when you open the app, you get a bunch of tools to choose from. If you choose the SWAP menu, you can create a SWAP Partition on the /data partition. 4gb has been working amazingly for me. Then go to settings and check the "apply swap on boot" (after you test it for a while, and you're happy and everything's stable).
L-speed has a lot of options. It's got a few profiles, but I'm not sure that they actually work. With some messing around you can get a little improvement here and there (or maybe it's placebo). Sometimes an update of L-speed will bootloop your device, but I only use it on devices I have an nandroid ready to go on.
SWAP, through ram expander or apps2sd, makes a night and day difference compared to any other tool I've tried.

Does Ram Expander starts automatically at each reboot or it has to be started manually each time?

mistermojorizin said:
so what ram expander does is it's just a super easy way to setup a swap file (space on the internal sd card that will be used as RAM). Why is it better than all the other stuff I've tried? It's empirical, not logical. That is to say, every phone that's lagged, if RAMEXPANDER is compatible, I've installed and it's made a huge difference in performance, every single time. I've messed around with a lot of optimization tools beforehand and results have been mixed. I can improve battery life usually, but the phone will still lag, with those tools and with all the apps i run. Also, each tool is just more strain on the system.
I've never seen an add in the app. You got a bad APK.
An alternative, I've found, though less intuitive is an app called apps2sd. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
It's a little less intuitive, but basically when you open the app, you get a bunch of tools to choose from. If you choose the SWAP menu, you can create a SWAP Partition on the /data partition. 4gb has been working amazingly for me. Then go to settings and check the "apply swap on boot" (after you test it for a while, and you're happy and everything's stable).
L-speed has a lot of options. It's got a few profiles, but I'm not sure that they actually work. With some messing around you can get a little improvement here and there (or maybe it's placebo). Sometimes an update of L-speed will bootloop your device, but I only use it on devices I have an nandroid ready to go on.
SWAP, through ram expander or apps2sd, makes a night and day difference compared to any other tool I've tried.
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Thanks for this. Just did this with app2sd and working great!

metaleloi666 said:
Does Ram Expander starts automatically at each reboot or it has to be started manually each time?
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It has an auto start feature

metaleloi666 said:
Is Ram Expander really worth $10? I wanted to try it and found an APK. The damned thing was contaminated with neverending ads appearing every 10 seconds... I had to uninstall and run Malwarebytes to get the tablet working fine again. I assume the "real" paid version has no crappy ads?
Here is a link for the premium: https://uplod.cc/4ogqacud4av9
If that doesn't work, check this link out: https://apk4free.net/roehsoft-ram-expander/
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I keep trying to install this (the Google Play store version of ROEHSOFT RAM Expander) on a Fire HD10 with root via Kingoroot. I'm trying to install the swap disk on the SD card, and I'm getting an error message:
You have a Limited Kernel
Kernel Swapspace Limit detected! please reduce the Swapfile Size lower 1GB! and try again!
This happens no matter what size I pick for the swap file on the SD card.
If I try to use the same company's "test" app (MemoryInfo-SwapCheck), I get this error message:
Path Error
This Path is not usable for Swap!
I can verify that both apps are successfully creating the swap file on the SD card (swapfile.swp or swaptestf.swp, depending on which app I'm using).
I've tried both systems 5.5.0.0 and 5.6.0.1 and I get the same error message on either. I've tried installing it on a completely fresh install of both, with only Kingoroot, SuperSU, Google Play, and RAM Expander installed (in that order). I've also tried swapping out SD cards, and get the same error on both.
This software does work properly if I install the swap file on internal memory, but I'd prefer not to do that, since I can't replace the internal memory if I wear it out.
The weird thing is, I could swear it was working properly before (a couple of weeks ago), but nothing is getting this to work now. It's possible I was mistaken and had accidentally chosen the internal memory, but I don't think so.
Anyone have any clue about what's going on?

GamerOfRassilon said:
I keep trying to install this (the Google Play store version of ROEHSOFT RAM Expander) on a Fire HD10 with root via Kingoroot. I'm trying to install the swap disk on the SD card, and I'm getting an error message...
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To respond to myself (in case anyone else has this problem in the future):
For some reason, this software doesn't work if you set the path to /storage/sdcard1 (It will create the swap file, but then it gives the error message I described).
Instead, you have to use:
/mnt/media_rw/sdcard1
Then it works totally fine.
Also, if it's useful (and saves anyone else time), here are the values that each option of this software generates on the HD10:
multitasking
SwpFile = 3000MB
Swappiness = 100
MinFreeKB = 54MB
DriveCache(KB) = 4096
balanced
SwpFile = 3000MB
Swappiness = 100
MinFreeKB = 62MB
DriveCache(KB) = 8192
gamers
SwpFile = 3000MB
Swappiness = 100
MinFreeKB = 62MB
DriveCache(KB) = 16384
net gamers
SwpFile = 3000MB
Swappiness = 100
MinFreeKB = 4MB
DriveCache(KB) = 1024
I have no idea what those options mean or do, but I went with "balanced" (since it seemed pretty middle of the road) but with SwpFile set to 4000MB instead of 3000MB.

Ramexpander etc.
I've paid for and been using RAMExpander for awhile now. It's a good app, and worth the money. That being said, App2SD is also an incredibly useful app, Pro or no. L-Speed is great as well. One thing to note, from what I've researched, editing your zram is also helpful as it compresses items in memory to free up space, and it is prioritized over Swap. Using the two in conjunction (having a zram file (250-500 MB seems to do the trick but you could probably go lower) and a decent sized swap file(mine is 8GB but I suspect this is massive overkill and 4 would work)) has left me with little to no lag, especially when paired with L-Speed's other exceptional tweaks. Jade Empire and Kotor run with 0 lag at top graphical settings.
Hope this helped clear up any questions.
Edit: If you use App2SD's partition manager you can set yourself up with a partition dedicated exclusively to Swap, then in Ramexpander change swap location to this partition in the settings. Ramexpander tops you out at 4GB, doing this is a good way to increase that threshold.

mistermojorizin said:
so what ram expander does is it's just a super easy way to setup a swap file (space on the internal sd card that will be used as RAM). Why is it better than all the other stuff I've tried? It's empirical, not logical. That is to say, every phone that's lagged, if RAMEXPANDER is compatible, I've installed and it's made a huge difference in performance, every single time. I've messed around with a lot of optimization tools beforehand and results have been mixed. I can improve battery life usually, but the phone will still lag, with those tools and with all the apps i run. Also, each tool is just more strain on the system.
I've never seen an add in the app. You got a bad APK.
An alternative, I've found, though less intuitive is an app called apps2sd. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en
It's a little less intuitive, but basically when you open the app, you get a bunch of tools to choose from. If you choose the SWAP menu, you can create a SWAP Partition on the /data partition. 4gb has been working amazingly for me. Then go to settings and check the "apply swap on boot" (after you test it for a while, and you're happy and everything's stable).
L-speed has a lot of options. It's got a few profiles, but I'm not sure that they actually work. With some messing around you can get a little improvement here and there (or maybe it's placebo). Sometimes an update of L-speed will bootloop your device, but I only use it on devices I have an nandroid ready to go on.
SWAP, through ram expander or apps2sd, makes a night and day difference compared to any other tool I've tried.
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Blaiser47 said:
Thanks for this. Just did this with app2sd and working great!
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How did you set it up?

I swaped it on Sd card on my j7 & it became to freeze & became super slow...

What about using BK Disabler?

ThisCrimsonDiscordia said:
I've paid for and been using RAMExpander for awhile now. It's a good app, and worth the money. That being said, App2SD is also an incredibly useful app, Pro or no. L-Speed is great as well. One thing to note, from what I've researched, editing your zram is also helpful as it compresses items in memory to free up space, and it is prioritized over Swap. Using the two in conjunction (having a zram file (250-500 MB seems to do the trick but you could probably go lower) and a decent sized swap file(mine is 8GB but I suspect this is massive overkill and 4 would work)) has left me with little to no lag, especially when paired with L-Speed's other exceptional tweaks. Jade Empire and Kotor run with 0 lag at top graphical settings.
Hope this helped clear up any questions.
Edit: If you use App2SD's partition manager you can set yourself up with a partition dedicated exclusively to Swap, then in Ramexpander change swap location to this partition in the settings. Ramexpander tops you out at 4GB, doing this is a good way to increase that threshold.
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Just out of curiosity, what are your L Speed settings?

I went with App2SD and L-Speed after reading this thread, and wow, it's practically a different experience, a different tablet. If you aren't doing something similar you're purposefully using a tablet that is gimped.
Here are the settings I went with:
App2SD swap is set to 4GB and placed in /data.
L-Speed has everything turned on as it would when first installed.
RAM Manager is set to balanced, seems like more than enough and I don't want to be plugged in frequently.
zRAM Optimization is set to on.
I then went back to swap settings and set the zRAM to priority 0 and /data set to 1.
Turned improved scrolling on.
Everything else was left as is, for now.
I can't believe this is the same tablet I was using a week ago.
No need for Greenify with this combination.

What size should i set the swap partition to?
Since the swap will be on the sd card, should I go with the Samsung MicroSDXC EVO Plus which has 100/60 read/write rates or the Samsung PRO Endurance which has better reliability (designed for continuous writes) in the long run but only 100/30 read/write?

lanbladez said:
What size should i set the swap partition to?
Since the swap will be on the sd card, should I go with the Samsung MicroSDXC EVO Plus which has 100/60 read/write rates or the Samsung PRO Endurance which has better reliability (designed for continuous writes) in the long run but only 100/30 read/write?
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You could probably get away with 2GB, honestly. In which case, I'd really suggest putting it on internal in /data.
Just one less I/O delay (even if seemingly trivial, will cause lag) to deal with.
If you're going with putting the swap on an SD rather than internal, definitely the fastest SD you can use. :fingers-crossed:
If you must put it on the SD, at the least create a zram "swap" on internal, it only has to be ~150-300MB.

Probably problem with RAM usage

Disclaimer: Yes I know, empty RAM is useless and Android will free RAM for the active app by suspending apps that I "have not used for a while".
I have a problem that the current active app is closed by the system because it gets out of main memory - well in fact that is an assumption, I still need to track that down. Interestingly in contrast to Lineage 15.1. my Linage 14.1 has a memory section in the settings app...
1) memory settings shows me that the mobile has 1,7gb - its supposed to have 2gb. I'd assume that this is the kernel
or something like that, but the kernel is listed as part of the "Android OS", so where are the 300mb?
2) The settings app shows the average usage for at least the last 3h which is pretty pointless. If the app did not run 2h 55 mins of it, runs 5 mins and then crashes the average RAM consumption is obviously low. How do I found out wether lack of RAM is actually the issue?
(I have seen similar issues on two phones with 2gb RAM and no issues an mobiles with more than 2gb, which makes me think it is about the RAM)
3) What can I do to solve the issue if lack of RAM is the reason? (besides buying a phone with more RAM) are there hacks available that lower the memory footprint of the OS, the UI ....
thank you.

HelloItsMe222 said:
Disclaimer: Yes I know, empty RAM is useless and Android will free RAM for the active app by suspending apps that I "have not used for a while".
I have a problem that the current active app is closed by the system because it gets out of main memory - well in fact that is an assumption, I still need to track that down. Interestingly in contrast to Lineage 15.1. my Linage 14.1 has a memory section in the settings app...
1) memory settings shows me that the mobile has 1,7gb - its supposed to have 2gb. I'd assume that this is the kernel
or something like that, but the kernel is listed as part of the "Android OS", so where are the 300mb?
2) The settings app shows the average usage for at least the last 3h which is pretty pointless. If the app did not run 2h 55 mins of it, runs 5 mins and then crashes the average RAM consumption is obviously low. How do I found out wether lack of RAM is actually the issue?
(I have seen similar issues on two phones with 2gb RAM and no issues an mobiles with more than 2gb, which makes me think it is about the RAM)
3) What can I do to solve the issue if lack of RAM is the reason? (besides buying a phone with more RAM) are there hacks available that lower the memory footprint of the OS, the UI ....
thank you.
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If it's a RAM issue, you can try setting up the ZRAM mod on your device or you can try creating a "swap partition" similar to the swap partition used in Linux. ZRAM and swap partition are different from each other but they both basically convert a portion of your internal storage into a type of "virtual RAM", this might help give you more space to be used as RAM to keep your app/apps from crashing. It requires a rooted device though.
Take a look at this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2217202
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Thank you for idea & link - however, the latest version is almost 6 years old and download links are dead (dropbox 404), so that might be a dead end....

HelloItsMe222 said:
Thank you for idea & link - however, the latest version is almost 6 years old and download links are dead (dropbox 404), so that might be a dead end....
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I didn't give you the link to use what was in the link, it was to give you a reference to understand what I was describing, then take that information and do some research to learn how to go about doing it using valid software from today.
Now, you just need to do the research to see the currently available options that offer the same capabilities and how to set it up. Why does everyone act like it is too much work to do some reading and learning for themselves, no one wants to think anymore, they just want a simple answer handed to them that requires no work. If you aren't willing to put some effort into learning something, then you just need to stop trying to change things about your device and just use it as it is.
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