I know I've asked this before but i've never got a solid answer. Can I change the Radio frequency or add it to what the phone is capable of doing so I can hook onto Telus's new HSPA network and not worry about them catching on to what i'm doing?
No, you can only use a phone on frequencies which it has hardware for. If it is not equipped for the HSPA radio frequencies...... you cannot use it.
antjc80 said:
No, you can only use a phone on frequencies which it has hardware for. If it is not equipped for the HSPA radio frequencies...... you cannot use it.
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Then explain to me this. The frequencies this phone is capable of doing according to the telus website are:
3G EVDO Rev A (800/1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA (2100 MHz)
GSM/ EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
This means my phone is capable of doing it. That means the frequency control is completely software. That being said I should be able to change it so the frequency can include the 2100 MHz as well. The only reason my phone doesn't right now is cause it's about 6 months older than the hspa network and on the CDMA system.
But if it is all software controlled I should be able to do both. Is my logic wrong on this??
Is this against the rules or something is that why people won't talk about it? Cause it's can't be impossible. If no one wants to talk about it, PM or point me in the right direction so I can know where to start looking.
The HSPA network is gsm not cdma as far as I know. So that means you would have to use a telus sim card to get that network.
slight22 said:
Is this against the rules or something is that why people won't talk about it? Cause it's can't be impossible. If no one wants to talk about it, PM or point me in the right direction so I can know where to start looking.
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If you got any info on that I would really appreciate bought mine like 2 month before HSPA launch
according to telus's website they dont support 3G on the TP2, so if its blocked on their end there isnt much you can do on yours
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according to telus's website they dont support 3G on the TP2, so if its blocked on their end there isnt much you can do on yours
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I'm not 100% sure if thats true. But I'd still like to try and see if it's possible. If not least I tried. If it works...
slight22 said:
I'm not 100% sure if thats true. But I'd still like to try and see if it's possible. If not least I tried. If it works...
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well either way youd need a sim card, and youll probably have to get that from telus, so call them up and ask
Exactly what I said. You need a correctly programmed Telus sim card since their 3g network is gsm
Local network here just launched '21Mbps 3G USB modem'.
The modem is a Huawei E8120 with the network specs attached.
I see HSPA+ in there, but want to know if I can get my Sensation doing some higher speeds like this modem. I'm stuck on class 10 HSDPA for now, and its SLOW!.
Any help apperciated. Willing to try new RUUs etc as they may be configured for this network.
The best the Sensation can do is 14.4 Mbps.
I thought the hardware inside Sensations and Sensation 4G was identical? Can I tweak my build.prop or radio/RIL to get on this super fast network that seems to be only for users on this HSPA+ 3G modem. Sure its possible!
kazprotos said:
I thought the hardware inside Sensations and Sensation 4G was identical? Can I tweak my build.prop or radio/RIL to get on this super fast network that seems to be only for users on this HSPA+ 3G modem. Sure its possible!
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They both can only do 14.4 Mbps.
Don't they have the 1700/2100 HSPA/AWS radios to handle the higher speed? I ALWAYS thought so, but was only officially done on TMOBILE roms. Or maybe I'm just confused. Anyone else?
kazprotos said:
Don't they have the 1700/2100 HSPA/AWS radios to handle the higher speed? I ALWAYS thought so, but was only officially done on TMOBILE roms. Or maybe I'm just confused. Anyone else?
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Yeah, they both have the 1700 and 2100 MHz bands. I think it depends on your carrier on what category of speed is enabled on your phone.
Which is what this thread was about in the first place haha but thanks for the bumps
kazprotos said:
Which is what this thread was about in the first place haha but thanks for the bumps
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Haha sorry, someone else had a similar issue and ended up buying the T-Mobile version of the handset. You might want to try flashing a T-Mobile radio or something.
Anybody? Devs is this possible?
Simple question: can the Global version get 3G on T-Mobile? Or is the US version only able to? I want to make sure to buy the right one.
Depends on where your location is. With the refarning of 1900 MHz by T-Mobile in its early stages and with both models supporting that anyway, unless you're traveling to somewhere that needs the international bands play it safe and get the US version which supports T-Mobile's AWS band.
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PloniAlmoni said:
Depends on where your location is. With the refarning of 1900 MHz by T-Mobile in its early stages and with both models supporting that anyway, unless you're traveling to somewhere that needs the international bands play it safe and get the US version which supports T-Mobile's AWS band.
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So the the US version will get T-Mobile's regular 3G bands?
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So the the US version will get T-Mobile's regular 3G bands?
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Definitely, it has both 1700MHz and 2100MHz configured for T-Mobile's two-band system. (One is used for uploading and one for downloading, so just 2100MHz is not enough.) If T-Mobile 3g is available in your area, the US version will work on it, with the appropriate SIM card of course.
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Definitely, it has both 1700MHz and 2100MHz configured for T-Mobile's two-band system. (One is used for uploading and one for downloading, so just 2100MHz is not enough.) If T-Mobile 3g is available in your area, the US version will work on it, with the appropriate SIM card of course.
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Awesome, thanks! And if you don't mind me asking, I see you have a Moto G. How is the battery life for you? I'm thinking about getting this for my dad and he needs a phone that will last a while.
The battery life is excellent. Easily 24 hours.
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PloniAlmoni said:
The battery life is excellent. Easily 24 hours.
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Alright thanks a lot!
Purplezigar said:
Alright thanks a lot!
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Some might not know it already but the WiFi calling will not work from what I have read.
Hello,
OnePlus annonces that the One will NOT be able to connect on 4G LTE 800 MHz Network.
But the Snapdragon 801 can operate it (example on HTC One M8 or Samsung S5).
There is a solution to open this restriction with a software or a custom ROM ???
Sorry for bad english
Thanks,
Profil.
profil said:
Hello,
OnePlus annonces that the One will NOT be able to connect on 4G LTE 800 MHz Network.
But the Snapdragon 801 can operate it (example on HTC One M8 or Samsung S5).
There is a solution to open this restriction with a software or a custom ROM ???
Sorry for bad english
Thanks,
Profil.
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Yes, I have the same question. If it have been possible with the Nexus 4 why not with the OnePlus One ?
Is there a developer planning to work on that please ?
Thanks in advance
The problem is not whether the processor can support it. It needs an antenna and signal booster for the spectrum. Oneplus put all the frequencies they could without blowing the budget. It most likely won't be able to be added with just software tweaks.
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For those who understand chinese: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/jumping-from-coloros-to-cm11s.36408/page-4
Someone said that will enable 15 LTE bands?
Galaxy Note SM-P605
Xperia33 said:
Yes, I have the same question. If it have been possible with the Nexus 4 why not with the OnePlus One ?
Is there a developer planning to work on that please ?
Thanks in advance
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Radios are hardware, not software. On the Nexus 4, the phone itself physically has a band 4 LTE radio, but it's not enabled in the software, but with software hacks, you can enable it. If the phone doesn't physically support specific bands with the hardware, no software or hack can change that, any more than software can turn your 720p screen into a 1080p, or turn 8gm storage into 16gb.
Someone have some solutions about this thread ???
Is it possible or not ?
If a developer read this, an answer could be great
Thanks
Planterz said:
Radios are hardware, not software. On the Nexus 4, the phone itself physically has a band 4 LTE radio, but it's not enabled in the software, but with software hacks, you can enable it. If the phone doesn't physically support specific bands with the hardware, no software or hack can change that, any more than software can turn your 720p screen into a 1080p, or turn 8gm storage into 16gb.
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Huh? The radio (or baseband) is firmware, it's updated just like any other software/firmware component of a device.
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timmaaa said:
Huh? The radio (or baseband) is firmware, it's updated just like any other software/firmware component of a device.
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The radio has firmware, yes, but the radio is still a physical component, and that physical component doesn't support band 800MHz. No software or firmware or whatever you want to call it can enable something that doesn't exist.
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The radio has firmware, yes, but the radio is still a physical component, and that physical component doesn't support band 800MHz. No software or firmware or whatever you want to call it can enable something that doesn't exist.
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I'm not denying the fact that you can't change hardware limitations. I was referring solely to the incorrect statement that the radio is hardware and not firmware.
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I I was referring solely to the incorrect statement that the radio is hardware and not firmware.
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The word radio refers either to the equipment transmitting and/or receiving an electromagnetic signal, or the signal itself. Referring to the firmware/software of such equipment as "radio" is a misuse of the word.
This argument is pointless.
Planterz said:
The word radio refers either to the equipment transmitting and/or receiving an electromagnetic signal, or the signal itself. Referring to the firmware/software of such equipment as "radio" is a misuse of the word.
This argument is pointless.
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You're right, this argument is pointless.
http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/beginner/android-rom-and-rooting-dictionary-for-beginners/
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/70/what-is-radio-firmware
http://androinica.com/2009/09/how-to-understand-android-root-terms-and-procedures/
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Flashing radio firmware and flashing a radio are different things. Last time I flashed radio firmware, I enabled the band 4 LTE modem on my Nexus 4. But the last time I flashed a radio, I was standing naked in front of my Sony Boombox.
Semantics. The term radio is common in the XDA vernacular just like there are shortened terms in everyday life.
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Regarding the chip used for radio transmission the non-chinese version is supposed to have this chip:
Skyworks 77629-21 -.- Can`t post link, please google it for specs...
i.imgur.com/RoHwknl.jpg
It states: LTE supports output power bandwidth bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
(and sub-bands 9, 10, 18, 19, 20, 26)
So, if this is true, is it still a hardware problem or could this be a software problem?
Cheers
Christian
Mestapholes said:
Regarding the chip used for radio transmission the non-chinese version is supposed to have this chip:
Skyworks 77629-21 -.- Can`t post link, please google it for specs...
i.imgur.com/RoHwknl.jpg
It states: LTE supports output power bandwidth bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
(and sub-bands 9, 10, 18, 19, 20, 26)
So, if this is true, is it still a hardware problem or could this be a software problem?
Cheers
Christian
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Any devs around...I think we need this, there are lots of stations popping up with 800MHz because it's cheap...at least here in Finland.
It is the same problem in France where the 800 Mhz is very used.
If somebody have a solution please, share it ! :fingers-crossed:
Its the same problem here in Sweden to. Telia is using LTE 800 and 2600.
800 for the mostpart of the whole country and 2600 that is supported by the 1+1 is only used in the bygger cities like Stockholm and göteborg etc.
Cant really say i like oneplus decision on not using the 800 as it seems to be used alot.
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800mhz lte (max. 50Mbit/s)has almost no speed improvement over hspa+(42Mbit/s)
It's no big deal, at least for me.
om22 said:
800mhz lte (max. 50Mbit/s)has almost no speed improvement over hspa+(42Mbit/s)
It's no big deal, at least for me.
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Of that i am aware, but the LTE 800 has a wider reception spectrum with stronger signal, if HSPA+ are to reach top speed it will require a full connection to the Antenna, whereas the LTE would have a improved reception quality as it has a stronger output signal than the HSPA+.
A full HSPA+ connection cant be met in the Swedish countryside.
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Of that i am aware, but the LTE 800 has a wider reception spectrum with stronger signal, if HSPA+ are to reach top speed it will require a full connection to the Antenna, whereas the LTE would have a improved reception quality as it has a stronger output signal than the HSPA+.
A full HSPA+ connection cant be met in the Swedish countryside.
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I don't know why but for me, I life in Munich - Germany and LTE is throughout lower strength than 3g for me. But maybe that's because the telecom 3g network is perfect in munich.