Simple question: can the Global version get 3G on T-Mobile? Or is the US version only able to? I want to make sure to buy the right one.
Depends on where your location is. With the refarning of 1900 MHz by T-Mobile in its early stages and with both models supporting that anyway, unless you're traveling to somewhere that needs the international bands play it safe and get the US version which supports T-Mobile's AWS band.
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PloniAlmoni said:
Depends on where your location is. With the refarning of 1900 MHz by T-Mobile in its early stages and with both models supporting that anyway, unless you're traveling to somewhere that needs the international bands play it safe and get the US version which supports T-Mobile's AWS band.
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So the the US version will get T-Mobile's regular 3G bands?
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So the the US version will get T-Mobile's regular 3G bands?
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Definitely, it has both 1700MHz and 2100MHz configured for T-Mobile's two-band system. (One is used for uploading and one for downloading, so just 2100MHz is not enough.) If T-Mobile 3g is available in your area, the US version will work on it, with the appropriate SIM card of course.
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Definitely, it has both 1700MHz and 2100MHz configured for T-Mobile's two-band system. (One is used for uploading and one for downloading, so just 2100MHz is not enough.) If T-Mobile 3g is available in your area, the US version will work on it, with the appropriate SIM card of course.
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Awesome, thanks! And if you don't mind me asking, I see you have a Moto G. How is the battery life for you? I'm thinking about getting this for my dad and he needs a phone that will last a while.
The battery life is excellent. Easily 24 hours.
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PloniAlmoni said:
The battery life is excellent. Easily 24 hours.
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Alright thanks a lot!
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Alright thanks a lot!
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Some might not know it already but the WiFi calling will not work from what I have read.
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So the International Version has no 4G support that has been established; however, their could be a possible way to still get 4G. I have seen with the SG2 International and The SG2 Tmo if you flash the modem of the tmo one onto the international they got 4G on Tmo. I have also read that i think it was the nexus or galaxy note or something had a locked band that they unlocked.... I heard that a radio probably wont change anything but does anyone else have any ideas?
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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dislplin01 said:
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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Don't like waiting and I travel a lot.
Personally I think you should just wait you gaffe the s2 so it's not like you dying from a crappy phone and that way you would know it works properly I'm not sure about the one s but I know on my HTC sensation there is a extra antenna for the 4 g and we can't even buy a extra battery cover unless it had that antenna or we loose 4g
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I already HAVE the one s I came from the amaze for the record. Interesting thoughts.
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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So say its all over and theirs no changing it. Those of us who had no idea that it wouldn't work is their any way would could minupulate HTC or Tmo into giving us a version that will suport it. You could play the "It says hspa+ on your website"
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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joshnichols189 said:
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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htc fan89 said:
It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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So people wouldn't buy one to use it for a carrier it wasn't meant to be on? If the band is only in the T-Mobile version and people are on T-Mobile, their only choice is to buy it from T-Mobile if they want 3G.
T-Mobile probably doesn't want people buying their flagship off contract.
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The Tmobile version looks like it has the 850/1900 bands to work on ATT's network? Does it in practice?
I know one problem might be the micro sim card idk if att uses those at all. I guesse u could probably just cut a regular one
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I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
Thongvilay said:
I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
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I agree the att one x will have the same awesome krait prossecor and it might have the same internals maybe making it possible to flash one s roms with the art one x. Because the att one x and international one x won't be able to flash each others Roms
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ATT uses micro sim, that's not an issue.
Frankly I find these LTE just getting to be ridiculously big. The HTC One S is the perfect size imo.
According to the FCC document for the t-mobile version, it's supports WCDMA 850 (ATT), 1700 (T-mobile) and 1900 (ATT,T-mobile). So I should fine on ATT's network as long as I put in the correct APN right?
Also looking for clarification on this...
It probably will, but it has to be unlocked and for that to happen, we need S-Off which could very well be a few months away. Why don't you buy the international, unlocked version outright? You also get your choice of colors (red/black as well instead of just blue/grey).
Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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Lol u mean unlocking phone to use it on att requires s off? NOOO. DOESN'T NEED TO BE S OFF. Just get unlock key and done.
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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so do you know if the t-mobile version has both 850/1900 bands? or just one of them?
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
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How did you unlock it
please tell me
hskharkunwar said:
How did you unlock it
please tell me
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I unlocked it through ebay. just search in ebay "htc one s unlock" its about 8USD. you pay and then you leave a message with your IMEI number
I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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Brooose said:
I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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I live in India where I can't get it
Can I try Cellunlocker.net
There it is for $10
I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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ATT uses 1900, in some markets, ATT uses the mixture of both, 850 has better penetration in urban areas (tall buildings ...)
I'm interested in the phone, but i'm going to be using it on ATT. Can somebody that has the device tell us what is the FCC ID?
Quick trip to Phone Scoop website, i can see that there are two FCC ID's associated with the phone. NM8PJ40110 passed the tests using ATT WCDMA bands (band II 1900 and band V 850) and T-Mobile bands (band IV 1700/2100). NM8PJ40100 passed only ATT bands. Both doesn't show any reference to any test on WCDMA 2100 (band I), which probably means that the phone doesn't support the international 3G band.
In short, theoretically, the T-Mobile's version of HTC One S should work on ATT 3G bands (WCDMA band II and WCDMA band V), however, the phone would not support ATT LTE.
Since the hardware is there (FCC website proves it, unless if the official T-Mobile USA version got pushed with different FCC ID that i do not know), the phone should work on ATT 3G, but nothing prevents T-Mobile to disable the ATT 3G radios in their ROM. I think that S-OFF would give opportunity to enable the ATT radios (if they are blocked)
We will see ...
Take care,
From my experience, the ATT radio is not blocked and works fine.
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We switched from Sprint to AIO. I got the Nexus 5 and the wife got a Moto G. My wife is getting around 2 mbps down at best and it says 3g. I'm concerned it's just normal HSPA and not HSPA+. Is there a way to tell which it's on? For the record, when I turn LTE off on my nexus, I hit the data cap of 3.5-4 mbps on HSPA+.
Settings>About Phone>Status>Mobile Network Type
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Depending on which model you purchased, your Moto G may or may not support HSPA or HSPA+. If you purchase the unlocked USA GSM model, it does have HSPA+. If you bought the global model, it's strictly 3G only.
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Depending on which model you purchased, your Moto G may or may not support HSPA or HSPA+. If you purchase the unlocked USA GSM model, it does have HSPA+. If you bought the global model, it's strictly 3G only.
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.... thats a bunch of misinformation. All the models have HSPA+. The US models only show 3G on screen even when connected to HSPA+ (if you dont believe me there are several ways to check). With AIO either of the US models or the international models will work just fine (as it runs on ATT's network) the only time you really need to worry about network compatibility is if you are buying the phone to run on T-Mobile as you will need the US model instead of the Global model.
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.... thats a bunch of misinformation. All the models have HSPA+. The US models only show 3G on screen even when connected to HSPA+ (if you dont believe me there are several ways to check). With AIO either of the US models or the international models will work just fine (as it runs on ATT's network) the only time you really need to worry about network compatibility is if you are buying the phone to run on T-Mobile as you will need the US model instead of the Global model.
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Ah sorry, I guess I was misinformed. I must have been confused about the model that T-Mobile requires.
Rarscaryfrosty said:
Ah sorry, I guess I was misinformed. I must have been confused about the model that T-Mobile requires.
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no worries. There seems to be a ton of confusion out there about this phone and which model to use. Motorola should add a chart or something on their site to clear it all up.
Just checked mine there now hspa+ and downloads of between 3.5 and 5 Mbps in my house ,other days I can get up to 9 Mbps,UK stock ROM rooted on giffgaff network,Posted screenshots of speeds that I get in my bathroom which are usually poor compared to rest of house
Please help me check out this http://www.expansys-usa.com/lg-g2-smartphone-32gb-black-unlocked-255286/? I'm looking to get it to use with AT&T. The specs doesn't talk about AT&T nor LTE. $499.99 is a great price if it can work with AT&T LTE. Thanks
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Please help me check out this http://www.expansys-usa.com/lg-g2-smartphone-32gb-black-unlocked-255286/? I'm looking to get it to use with AT&T. The specs doesn't talk about AT&T nor LTE. $499.99 is a great price if it can work with AT&T LTE. Thanks
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It says D802 right on the page, so use that to see how it'll work on ATT.
Don't think D802 will work well on AT&T.. Doesn't have the 700MHz frequency which is the main LTE one on AT&T.. Should have no issues at all on T Mobile LTE..
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Please help me check out this http://www.expansys-usa.com/lg-g2-smartphone-32gb-black-unlocked-255286/? I'm looking to get it to use with AT&T. The specs doesn't talk about AT&T nor LTE. $499.99 is a great price if it can work with AT&T LTE. Thanks
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If you aren't hung up on new, check out your local craigslist for a Verizon branded G2. They are usually listed pretty cheap where I am at (in the $225-325 range on average in excellent condition). They are unlocked, you can flash AT&T firmware on it, LTE works and best of all it has wireless charging built in as a bonus. I have been very happy with mine.
It says under Technical Details:
Network: 4G: 800/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz / 3G: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz / GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
So on AT&T you'll get 3G only. It's missing the 700 (primarily) and 1700 MHz (a few markets) bands for 4G.
On T-Mobile you'd get 2G and 3G only where T-Mobile has refarmed the 1700 MHz spectrum for LTE and moved the 3G to 1900 MHz.
I have a Net10 sim which runs on the AT&T network and I have HSPA+ only, no LTE, which is good enough for me
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I have a Net10 sim which runs on the AT&T network and I have HSPA+ only, no LTE, which is good enough for me
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How is this relevant?
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How is this relevant?
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gee ...let me think ..
well ...i have the same above mentioned phone, and as i mentioned am on the at&t network, and reported what i get on the phone, which i believe is what the op was asking
maybe read the thread first?
tmzbeme said:
gee ...let me think ..
well ...i have the same above mentioned phone, and as i mentioned am on the at&t network, and reported what i get on the phone, which i believe is what the op was asking
maybe read the thread first?
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Of course I know what the thread is, but perhaps mentioning you were using the same phone would have been good. Just mentioning using a different MNVO made it sound like you were just using Net10, not necessarily the same phone.
My bad..
I bought a used Moto G and it's a US Retail Model (AWS 1700MHz).
Unfortunately this frequency band does not work in my country.
So I was wondering that is there any method to convert it to Global GSM (2100 MHz UMTS) so that I can use 3G on it?
Umer520 said:
I bought a used Moto G and it's a US Retail Model (AWS 1700MHz).
Unfortunately this frequency band does not work in my country.
So I was wondering that is there any method to convert it to Global GSM (2100 MHz UMTS) so that I can use 3G on it?
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You get something my friend?
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You get something my friend?
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Sorry man, I never found anything on it.
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