[Q] Push email delayed - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone,
I just got a brand new Nexus 5 a week or so ago coming from a very old Nexus S. Needless to say, the Nexus 5 was already on the latest 4.4.3 android. After some time using it, I noticed that my email notifications from the stock email app are delayed, sometimes by several minutes. It doesn't matter if I'm on mobile or WiFi, but it seems even worst on WiFi. My Nexus S was working flawlessly just a 2 weeks ago...
So my question is this : Is anyone using the stock email app with exchange servers (like hotmail) and getting instant push notifications? Did you have to modify any settings to get it to work?
Out of curiousity, I tried installing the old email and exchange app form my Nexus S and guess what, it is working fine. I get notifications within seconds with the exact same settings. So it seems to be a software problem with the new email app rather than a hardware issue on the phone. It kinda suck to get a brand new phone and having to rely on super old software (android 4.1.2) to get it to work...

I use the stock email app for Yahoo and my Work. I dont know if exchange is different. But I have only seen options to sync email in intervals. Like every 5/10/15/etc. minutes. I've never known it to sync right away on receiving an email like Gmail or something.

I use an app called cloud magic its great. Supports nearly all major email providers.

Dark_Eyes_ said:
Hi everyone,
I just got a brand new Nexus 5 a week or so ago coming from a very old Nexus S. Needless to say, the Nexus 5 was already on the latest 4.4.3 android. After some time using it, I noticed that my email notifications from the stock email app are delayed, sometimes by several minutes. It doesn't matter if I'm on mobile or WiFi, but it seems even worst on WiFi. There are MANY thread that discuss that, but none that provide a fix. My Nexus S was working flawlessly just a 2 weeks ago...
So my question is this : Is anyone using the stock email app with exchange servers (like hotmail) and getting instant push notifications? Did you have to modify any settings to get it to work?
Out of curiousity, I tried installing the old email and exchange app form my Nexus S and guess what, it is working fine. I get notifications within seconds with the exact same settings. So it seems to be a software problem with the new email app rather than a hardware issue on the phone. It kinda suck to get a brand new phone and having to rely on super old software (android 4.1.2) to get it to work...
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Pretty sure the stock Email app works via sync rather than push notifications i.e. syncs every 5/10/15/whatever minutes and notifies you of anything new, not instant notifications pushed directly to your device.

Lethargy said:
Pretty sure the stock Email app works via sync rather than push notifications i.e. syncs every 5/10/15/whatever minutes and notifies you of anything new, not instant notifications pushed directly to your device.
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Thank you for your answer. Just to explain a little better : The stock email app supports 3 protocols for email. POP, IMAP and Exchange. The first 2 don't support Push, so your phone has to sync with the server at a determined period like 5/10/15 minutes.
The Exchange protocol, like Hotmail or Outlook, supports push notifications. So, when I set my hotmail and outlook accounts, I always do it through Exchange. It was working perfectly under android 4.1.2, but now for some reason it doesn't on 4.4.3. The notifications are pushed after a variable delay that can go up to 30 minutes or more.
I'm just wondering if anyone managed to get it working before I spend too much time trying to fix it.

Dark_Eyes_ said:
Thank you for your answer. Just to explain a little better : The stock email app supports 3 protocols for email. POP, IMAP and Exchange. The first 2 don't support Push, so your phone has to sync with the server at a determined period like 5/10/15 minutes.
The Exchange protocol, like Hotmail or Outlook, supports push notifications. So, when I set my hotmail and outlook accounts, I always do it through Exchange. It was working perfectly under android 4.1.2, but now for some reason it doesn't on 4.4.3. The notifications are pushed after a variable delay that can go up to 30 minutes or more.
I'm just wondering if anyone managed to get it working before I spend too many time trying to fix it.
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I'm not exactly sure, I use the Gmail app so I can't really answer your question beyond that. Might possibly be some changes that were done to Android.
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Well, the Gmail app syncs just fine, but I also have a hotmail account that I can't add through gmail.
Nobody can tell me if they have it working? I can't believe I'm the only one here with a hotmail address that is using the stock app?
I'm not asking for a fix, I just want to know if it is possible to make it work and what setup you're using if it is.
Anyone?

I have hotmail but also have gmail so I use cloud magic I will play around with the stock app and my hotmail acc
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Dark_Eyes_ said:
Well, the Gmail app syncs just fine, but I also have a hotmail account that I can't add through gmail.
Nobody can tell me if they have it working? I can't believe I'm the only one here with a hotmail address that is using the stock app?
I'm not asking for a fix, I just want to know if it is possible to make it work and what setup you're using if it is.
Anyone?
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I wish I had not read your post now I was happy with my cloud magic. Now I've gone testing the cloud magic delays even longer than stock app and your right sometime my stick app takes 2 to 3 mins have u tried the outlook app?
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Dark_Eyes_ said:
Well, the Gmail app syncs just fine, but I also have a hotmail account that I can't add through gmail.
Nobody can tell me if they have it working? I can't believe I'm the only one here with a hotmail address that is using the stock app?
I'm not asking for a fix, I just want to know if it is possible to make it work and what setup you're using if it is.
Anyone?
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Another thing in the stock email do u always have to adjust the zoom to view the email its annoying?

calembic said:
I have hotmail but also have gmail so I use cloud magic I will play around with the stock app and my hotmail acc
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I wish I had not read your post now I was happy with my cloud magic. Now I've gone testing the cloud magic delays even longer than stock app and your right sometime my stick app takes 2 to 3 mins have u tried the outlook app?
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Another thing in the stock email do u always have to adjust the zoom to view the email its annoying?
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First off, thanks for taking the time to help!
I haven't tested the outlook app a lot as I can't stand it, but it seemed to push instantly. I'm sorry if I made you notice that your app were not syncing very fast... But at the same time I'm happy to see there is nothing wrong with my phone.
The stock app doesn't have auto fit so yeah you have to adjust the zoom, but I never had any real issue with that...
Anyway, if you find a way to have it sync faster let me know.

The email app was just updated and now is on the GP Store. Maybe they've fixed this, have you tried?

bblzd said:
The email app was just updated and now is on the GP Store. Maybe they've fixed this, have you tried?
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I did and it's not. But there's hope as they will be able to update it more often. I might even report it!
Thanks for the tip!

same here, my iphone is 1-10 mins faster. android push mail sucks

Yep I know. Push works just fine when the screen is on, but for some reason there seems to be a process that's preventing push notifications to be received instantly when screen is off to save power...
Push are also instantly received while charging, which is why I assume there is an option to save power somewhere...

Dark_Eyes_ said:
Yep I know. Push works just fine when the screen is on, but for some reason there seems to be a process that's preventing push notifications to be received instantly when screen is off to save power...
Push are also instantly received while charging, which is why I assume there is an option to save power somewhere...
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You're not alone and your approach is the correct one.
I had this problem since the 4.4 upgrade and I've been using both Email.apk and Exchange.apk from the 4.3 AOSP source (it's obviously much easier to download a 4.3 omnirom (or cyanogenmod if you still trust them) and pull the files from there.
All upgrades are broken, 4.4.2, 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 all have hideous delays with Exchange email. They do bring some extra functionality that 4.3 doesn't have but getting real push email is more important for me.
This issue has been reported by quite a few people but others aren't experiencing it so it's unknown what's causing it. I haven't tried the Exchange.apk from 4.3 and Email.apk from 4.4.4 so that might as well work (so you get the functionality of the email client and stability of the 4.3 exchange.apk)
Go for the 4.3 apk files for Email.apk and Exchange.apk and it will be OK.

wkwkwk said:
You're not alone and your approach is the correct one.
I had this problem since the 4.4 upgrade and I've been using both Email.apk and Exchange.apk from the 4.3 AOSP source (it's obviously much easier to download a 4.3 omnirom (or cyanogenmod if you still trust them) and pull the files from there.
All upgrades are broken, 4.4.2, 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 all have hideous delays with Exchange email. They do bring some extra functionality that 4.3 doesn't have but getting real push email is more important for me.
This issue has been reported by quite a few people but others aren't experiencing it so it's unknown what's causing it. I haven't tried the Exchange.apk from 4.3 and Email.apk from 4.4.4 so that might as well work (so you get the functionality of the email client and stability of the 4.3 exchange.apk)
Go for the 4.3 apk files for Email.apk and Exchange.apk and it will be OK.
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Thanks. I figured as much, but for now I'm using the 4.1.2 AOSP ones. There's probably not much of a difference with the 4.3 apps anyway.
What's weird is that it's working for some people, which leads me to believe that there is something I'm missing, an option maybe that's not obviously related to push, like using Bluetooth or whatever.
Or maybe people claiming it's working fine just don't notice the delay. It took me quite some time to notice it since it rarely makes a difference whether I get my mail instantly or 5 minutes late. What's more of a problem is when it gets through 20 or so minutes late.

Dark_Eyes_ said:
Or maybe people claiming it's working fine just don't notice the delay. It took me quite some time to notice it since it rarely makes a difference whether I get my mail instantly or 5 minutes late. What's more of a problem is when it gets through 20 or so minutes late.
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I think so, yes.
I have exactly the same behaviour, sometimes the email arrives instantly, otherwise it's delayed for minutes, sometimes up to 20-30.
Another interesting thing I noticed, if I get an email on my computer and the phone doesn't beep, I waited for a few minutes and then, a few seconds after turning the screen on, the email would arrive.
Looks like the phone was in deep sleep and wasn't waking up when the email was being pushed. Great for battery life but bad if you want real-time push email.
Something definitely broke on 4.4 as previously everything worked fine. Thankfully we can still use 4.3 apks, otherwise there would be big trouble.

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[Q] the only gripe... very slow Email app with Exchange

The only gripe i have with the Galaxy Tab is the abominably slow Email app with Exchange integration. On any app start or when return from reading an Email it takes a full 30 or more seconds to load the Email list (i sync 1 week) and more often than not the screen / app becomes unresponsive and force closes.
I discovered that unlike Touchdown the in-built Email app simply downloads all Emails (1 week horizon) in all sub-folders (i have many, organization freak...). With Touchdown i can pre-select the folders i want on the Phone/Tab, which obviously makes the number of items much smaller.
By now i don't want to change from Email to Touchdown, because I like the integration of Emails & calendar entries, etc. native, but I have to work with the tab on work Email,... can't wait for every mail for 30 sec to load
Does anybody experience this too, and are there any remedies?
thanks
That isn't the case with me. I have 27 subfolders (really), not counting Inbox, Sent, Junk and Deleted folders. I need to manually refresh all but the main Inbox.
Response time moving from folder to folder is also a non-issue, and I sync back a full month (which is thousands and thousands of emails). I don't notice any extra delay when leaving Email and doing something else on the tab either.
I'm using Push, not timed polling, and no "peak schedule" so that may make a difference.
Sounds like you might have some database corruption going on. Try going into Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/All/Email and then "Clear data". This will nuke the mail on your device without changing your account settings. Sync up again and see if you still have the problem.
If you do, go into Accounts and Sync, click on your Exchange account, and click Remove Account, then reboot the Tab. Once you've done that, set your account back up, resync, and see what the situation is.
Croak said:
That isn't the case with me. I have 27 subfolders (really), not counting Inbox, Sent, Junk and Deleted folders. I need to manually refresh all but the main Inbox.
Response time moving from folder to folder is also a non-issue, and I sync back a full month (which is thousands and thousands of emails). I don't notice any extra delay when leaving Email and doing something else on the tab either.
I'm using Push, not timed polling, and no "peak schedule" so that may make a difference.
Sounds like you might have some database corruption going on. Try going into Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/All/Email and then "Clear data". This will nuke the mail on your device without changing your account settings. Sync up again and see if you still have the problem.
If you do, go into Accounts and Sync, click on your Exchange account, and click Remove Account, then reboot the Tab. Once you've done that, set your account back up, resync, and see what the situation is.
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I will try clear data
I did see the issue reported (with no solution) on other forums though
Thanks
Edit: cleared data, same issue. I am hesitant to re-setup, because others have reported that that didn't help them either. I am on JM6, interesting that you don't hv the issue
shmigao said:
The only gripe i have with the Galaxy Tab is the abominably slow Email app with Exchange integration. On any app start or when return from reading an Email it takes a full 30 or more seconds to load the Email list (i sync 1 week) and more often than not the screen / app becomes unresponsive and force closes.
I discovered that unlike Touchdown the in-built Email app simply downloads all Emails (1 week horizon) in all sub-folders (i have many, organization freak...). With Touchdown i can pre-select the folders i want on the Phone/Tab, which obviously makes the number of items much smaller.
By now i don't want to change from Email to Touchdown, because I like the integration of Emails & calendar entries, etc. native, but I have to work with the tab on work Email,... can't wait for every mail for 30 sec to load
Does anybody experience this too, and are there any remedies?
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I'm having this issue too, any solutions?
Same here,
have 50 subfolders
use Countdown actually.
Peter
Same with me. Very slow!!
It was the same on the original firmware/rom, on JK5 and JM6. Also performed full factory reset but it makes no difference.
Using the eval of roadsync at the moment and it works pretty well but it does not integrate very well with the calendar and contacts apps. I will probably configure roadsync for email and the built in app for calendar and contacts to get a working solution. Annoying and very disappointing!!
Search for the port for Galaxy S of the email app from galaxy tab, it solved the slowdowns and it removed the security pass.
Update:
This is it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=810454
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This worked for me no lag when opening up my corp inbox. Tab now 100% perfect.
Had to change the galaxy email app shortcut as it was set to open the previous account by default. Even though they were called the same it always opened a blank mail box . I then had to change to all accounts. Now resolved
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Skimi said:
Search for the port for Galaxy S of the email app from galaxy tab, it solved the slowdowns and it removed the security pass.
Update:
This is it - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=810454
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you used the first apk in that thread? i mean the email file in the first post?
shmigao said:
you used the first apk in that thread? i mean the email file in the first post?
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it worked, but broke my camera (no odex file)
shmigao said:
you used the first apk in that thread? i mean the email file in the first post?
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Be careful, it's a very OLD email.apk, from a pre-release leak of the Tab ROM.
It's missing a few features, and it has a lot more connection issues. I tried it just to bypass needing a PIN, it was not reliable.
Croak said:
Be careful, it's a very OLD email.apk, from a pre-release leak of the Tab ROM.
It's missing a few features, and it has a lot more connection issues. I tried it just to bypass needing a PIN, it was not reliable.
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yeah, i can see that in the referred thread...
so is there a newer version that works AND is not taking 30-60 sec to load?
Croak said:
Be careful, it's a very OLD email.apk, from a pre-release leak of the Tab ROM.
It's missing a few features, and it has a lot more connection issues. I tried it just to bypass needing a PIN, it was not reliable.
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It's old but is usable, the stock one is impossible to use... maybe in future updates samsung can solve this huge problem...
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ok, this thread needs to be updated a bit, because just simply referring to the link is bad advise.
it broke my camera (driver crash), probably because the email.apk posted in the other thread linked does not have an *.odex file
i reverted back to the original email.apk and email.odex and my camera is working again.
scary
haha
now i am still stuck with a very slow email app
shmigao said:
ok, this thread needs to be updated a bit, because just simply referring to the link is bad advise.
it broke my camera (driver crash), probably because the email.apk posted in the other thread linked does not have an *.odex file
i reverted back to the original email.apk and email.odex and my camera is working again.
scary
haha
now i am still stuck with a very slow email app
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You have to use only the email.apk and keep the original Email.odex, then the camera works fine...
The only problem i found is that the version of the port is from an old version... anyone have a more recent version?
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Skimi said:
You have to use only the email.apk and keep the original Email.odex, then the camera works fine...
The only problem i found is that the version of the port is from an old version... anyone have a more recent version?
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There seems to be a new firmware from samsung out... Wonder whether there is a new email client too...
Last time I tried to pull it from the fw, but didn't succeed.
Any solutions on this?
I think the problem is related with security from exchange. Because when I use the stock app I have to assign a pin to access the system, and the mail app works very slow, but when I use a modded version without the security it works normally...
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Skimi said:
Any solutions on this?
I think the problem is related with security from exchange. Because when I use the stock app I have to assign a pin to access the system, and the mail app works very slow, but when I use a modded version without the security it works normally...
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Am also looking for solution still newer fw's like JME have not solved it yet
The implementation of Exchange on Android is screwed... I use an Exchange 2010 server and not all my folders show on my android device. And even the ones which show dont update ona regular basis (My Sent folder updates once in a while... Right now it hasn't updated for 2 weeks)
On top of it it doesn't update all the features/items. For instance impossible to have birthdays for contacts. Or impossible to modify an event from the exchange calendar (It's only possible to delete it)
Not much to say. It's disappointing on a phone. It's ridiculous on a tablet (you expect at ;east the email client and the calendar to be perfect on a tablet)
Same happens to me since the beginning, anyone has found a solution???
I think it's unacceptable
Thanks

Issue with my phone

LOL there are quite a few things but this is mainly the biggest thing, it is getting to be annoying with this phone in particular
Is the fact I keep having to sign into my gmail...like every hour.
I have 3 main gmail accounts
One for pleasure/personal use
One for work
One for school
(I am considering switching back to WP7 & hotmail...but that is another story)
It seems every hour, I'm having to resign into Gmail. And it's not a huge deal but it is a bit annoying seeing the little notification sign that is saying that you need to sign into [email protected]
Furthermore, my Gmail is not pushing to my phone whatsoever so I am not getting any emails without having to sync it manually...even though it is said to get it whenever available.
Idk what to do or what exactly the issue is but it is truly annoying. Any suggestions would be nice?
:O wrong place for this sweety. But I have 5 gmail accounts setup and 2 personal and working fine. Which rom are you using stock? do you have them all setup under account and sync? I remember when I got MT4G and checked 2 acc's from stock rom and worked fine.
lol well where should i post this at then?
and ummm, i am actually using the phone the same exact way out of the box
and everything is fine under accounts & sync...just none of them sync or hardly
ever
You are using GMail App and not EMail App right? Ok lets see you have Background Data and Auto Sync checked? Open GMail app and click Menu> More> Setting> Notification Setting> Email Notification checked? Also make sure you have Update Schedule with fixed time on Send & Receive in GMail setting.
Can u even get gmail over wifi?
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Oh my mistake. Lol I didn't have my background data enabled after all haha.
But the sign in issue is annoying
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gmail has had some probs pushing emails past fews days. your not alone. for the re signing in all the time idk about. best of luck
vabeachfc said:
gmail has had some probs pushing emails past fews days. your not alone. for the re signing in all the time idk about. best of luck
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I'm glad to know someone is having similar troubles.
It's all good. I'm probably just going to trade this for a windows phone anyway.
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I have 4 gmail accounts sync'd on my phone and don't have to sign in on them and get things pushed to them just fine. I'm also on the stock rom...
Just a random thought here, but try deleting one of your email accounts & set it up using the regular mail app & not the gmail app. Just giver it a shot & see.
I have 1 thru the gmail app & 3 thru the regular mail app (live, hotmail & school) & they all work fine
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App for email?

Hi guys,
First day with the new phone. Coming from a bb torch and was wondering if there are any apps to receive instant email?
Thanks
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nogaros4v8 said:
Hi guys,
First day with the new phone. Coming from a bb torch and was wondering if there are any apps to receive instant email?
Thanks
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Um - the built-in email app? Just set it to push delivery. I'm assuming you are using an Exchange server for email?
for true push you want k9 mail in the market. there was also maildroid but people prefered k9 even though they had nearly identical features.
Dani897 said:
for true push you want k9 mail in the market. there was also maildroid but people prefered k9 even though they had nearly identical features.
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How is ActiveSync's push not "true push"?
well i havent cared to check lately to see if it improved but if you installed k9 on the captivate and had both running k9 would always give you a notification long before the stock app. but im thinking back almost a year, the email stock app may be improved now, lately i have only used my phone for checking email not replying or composing but i remember the stock apps being limited. k9 seemed more fully featured, could attach any file type and had a global inbox for all your accounts.
Dani897 said:
well i havent cared to check lately to see if it improved but if you installed k9 on the captivate and had both running k9 would always give you a notification long before the stock app. but im thinking back almost a year, the email stock app may be improved now, lately i have only used my phone for checking email not replying or composing but i remember the stock apps being limited. k9 seemed more fully featured, could attach any file type and had a global inbox for all your accounts.
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Well, I used "Improved Email" which is a slightly modified version of the stock app - primarily because it lets me setup multiple Exchange accounts. But anyway, I routinely get notifications of new emails on it before my desktop notifies me (granted, my desktop is running in "Cached Mode" - but still...).
oh sorry. due to insomnia my brain isnt working. yes the stock app may have push for exchanger servers but it doesn't for personal emails. k9 might not be "true" either but it is much faster than the stock app can be on your gmail and other accounts. i need to watch how i word things but what i was getting at is in many cases k9 is very near real time notifications for most email accounts.
Dani897 said:
oh sorry. due to insomnia my brain isnt working. yes the stock app may have push for exchanger servers but it doesn't for personal emails. k9 might not be "true" either but it is much faster than the stock app can be on your gmail and other accounts. i need to watch how i word things but what i was getting at is in many cases k9 is very near real time notifications for most email accounts.
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In that case I defer to your experience. I don't really use my Gmail account, so I have no idea how quickly it delivers email. I only assumed the poster was using Exchange because that's Blackberry's claim to fame - and I've never understood why Blackberry users seem to think that BB is the only way to get their email immediately - Exchange server has had that functionality baked in for years.
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In that case I defer to your experience. I don't really use my Gmail account, so I have no idea how quickly it delivers email. I only assumed the poster was using Exchange because that's Blackberry's claim to fame - and I've never understood why Blackberry users seem to think that BB is the only way to get their email immediately - Exchange server has had that functionality baked in for years.
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well the gmail app delivers the gmails fast but that app sux for full time use
i used to use k9 and killed notifications for gmail and email. now i stopped caring, i dont have a work email anymore and i stopped using my other personal email from an isp i no longer use so im down to only my gmail but use my computer to reply now as nothing in my life is that urgent at the moment that i need to reply from my phone where ever i am. i may be out of touch with what works now.
Thanks for the help guys. FYI it has nothing to do with thinking that bb's are the only phones that can get instant email. Just some people arent as tech savvy or forgot since they havent owned htc/wm phones in a long time OR never owned android like myself.
I do appreciate all the help however guys!
Dani897 said:
well i havent cared to check lately to see if it improved but if you installed k9 on the captivate and had both running k9 would always give you a notification long before the stock app. but im thinking back almost a year, the email stock app may be improved now, lately i have only used my phone for checking email not replying or composing but i remember the stock apps being limited. k9 seemed more fully featured, could attach any file type and had a global inbox for all your accounts.
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I'm not sure, but I don't want my email to have a stop ever on k9 server before it reach me.
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I want to put in a vote for enhanced email... Its a pretty awesome client.
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Dani897 said:
oh sorry. due to insomnia my brain isnt working. yes the stock app may have push for exchanger servers but it doesn't for personal emails. k9 might not be "true" either but it is much faster than the stock app can be on your gmail and other accounts. i need to watch how i word things but what i was getting at is in many cases k9 is very near real time notifications for most email accounts.
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I agree with you on this,
When the time G1 was first released.
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Yahoo Mail causes major battery drain!

Okay, I think I discovered Yahoo Mail as a major cause of battery drain on my Charge. First some background. At one point early on with the Charge I had great results of 20+ hours. That was shortly after setting up Humble and ImNuts Kernal, calibrating the battery, and installing basic apps.
As many of us do, I kept on tweaking from there. I tried various combinations of Imoseyon's kernal, EP1Q modem, and V6 supercharger and related scripts. At some point in the process I lost the battery life. I started getting 6-8 hours max! Of course at the same time I kept working on getting the "perfect" app setup. All this tweaking meant I couldn't tell what started the problem.
Anyway, I've since undone V6, gone back to PBJ kernal, and restored EE4's modem. I thought I noticed some improvement, but really it was no more than a couple hours more than before. Maybe 8-10 hours total.
So, I started thinking about how Data usage kills my battery at work. I get a very weak signal and it absolutely kills the battery. But still, I was able to get up to 20 hours before, even leaving data turned on. So, I wondered if anything was causing it to work extra hard to send/receive vs before.
Long story shortened (a little). I considered the Yahoo Mail app with it's "push only" setup. This is something I didn't have setup right away. I'd used the built in email. So, after disabling "Notifications" in my account and re-enabling the built-in mail notifications, I've recovered my battery life! Today I've been going 15 hours and I've still got 31%. And that was with fairly heavy use and leaving data on all day!
I stress that the Yahoo Mail setting is the only thing I've changed since last week. I've been very patient to make one change at a time so I could track this down properly.
So, anyone with primarily weak signals care to test this theory as well? I really feel this did it, but could use some confirmation considering all the previous variables. I'll do some further testing myself this week. Maybe a day with and a day without. It's difficult not to just jump to GummyCharged 2.0, but I really want to confirm this issue first.
Some confirmation can be found by googling the issue: "yahoo mail android battery drain". Hope this may help someone else.
Yes I have notice this too. I live in a non 4g fringe 3 g area and my battery drains fast as well. Yes I have yahoo mail and have since uninstalled it and have the stock email app pull my mail from yahoo. Also any app like yahoo messenger also runs in the back ground and no matter how much u do a force off, it restart a few mins later. Here is a list of app that run in the background.
A. Yahoo mail
B. Yahoo messenger
C. Live holdem poker.
D. Maps
E. Gallery
F. Gmail
G. Stock email app
H. Music
I. Search
And of all the rest of the stock functions. I wish that most of these apps would only run when you launch them and when you close it, they would stay shut off untill needed. Freezing the apps work but you cant use them until u unfreeze them. I know that this is done for a reason, so that there would be no lag. So I guess these are some of the things we have to live with.
One of the big mistakes samsung did with the charge is not install enuff onboard memory. So when you have all these programs running it does cause a lag and massive battery drain on our phone. As far as the data connection, I can not complain about the phone cause this is a problem that BIG RED is causing an additional drain on the battery. The mighty no connection and searching for service LOL..
END RANT..
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Glad to see it's not just me. You'd think a "push" service would use less battery, but in the case of yahoo mail it seems the opposite.
I'm not as worried about ram usage as network usage though. With a custom rom it seems fairly responsive. It's the network use that I wish we had more fine control over at the system level. If I could just make some of the offending apps act less aggressively that would be great.
In fact, I wish the OS had a smart signal monitoring feature that could tell apps to throttle back until a strong signal was available.
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I noticed this too. It was causing a huge drain! The only reason I got the yahoo mail app was because the stock mail app wouldn't let me sign in to my yahoo account. Does anybody know the reason for this? It worked less than a week ago...
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The stock mail app is working fine for me. Never had trouble logging in. Maybe try from a computer to see if it needs to verify your account or something?
So far today I am using 5% per hour with yahoo's app disabled and very heavy usage of phone and screen. During one hour with little use it only used 2%. Very acceptable. I'll try turning yahoo on for the afternoon and see the difference.
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Danzanzio said:
I noticed this too. It was causing a huge drain! The only reason I got the yahoo mail app was because the stock mail app wouldn't let me sign in to my yahoo account. Does anybody know the reason for this? It worked less than a week ago...
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What i did is uninstall the yahoo mail app and load the stock email app, you can do all the same stuff with the stock email app as you can with yahoo mail. Also I found that the email app that comes preloaded with the gc 2.0 has issue with yahoo, and other email accounts ( Iam sure other people did not have this problem but i was one of few that did. So please dont flame me and say that iam the only one with this problem). What i did is pull the stock app off my tablet and installed this one on my phone, all problems are gone, i can receive and now repley, create and send my emails. I can now easily setup all of my email accounts, aol-yahoo-comcast, etc. If you can pull the stock email app that was preloaded on the phone before you modded or install any custom rom/themes. Also if you have yahoo messenger installed, get rid of it. I found that between the yahoo mail and messenger app my battery life was almost cut in half.
Ya I'm running gc 2.0 with the same problem. Any way you could post a link of the stock app?
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Ya I'm running gc 2.0 with the same problem. Any way you could post a link of the stock app?
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It's in gummytoolbox
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Update
So, I finished my testing:
Yahoo Mail app notifications turned off:
Used 35% battery in first 6 hours of day with heavy use of phone
Yahoo Mail app notifications turned on:
Used 55% battery in next 6 hours of day with very light use of phone
So, simply enabling the Yahoo Mail app notifications increased my battery use more than 50% per hour. This is even though I went from heavy usage before the change to practically no usage after the change.
Needless to say, I'll be leaving Yahoo Mail notifications off and let the built in e-mail app notify me. Which it does a very fine job of by the way. It's still "push" even.
So, I'm wondering how to find other offending apps. I'd have thought Spare Parts would tell me, but apparently Yahoo Mail was hiding its network usage behind some other title. Perhaps it's lumped under Dialer or one of the mysterious user ID's that show up (1043, I think?).
Anyone know of another network usage watchdog type app for our phones that might shed more light?
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Ya I'm running gc 2.0 with the same problem. Any way you could post a link of the stock app?
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I will try and have it posted by the end of the day or tomorrow. You can try to install the one under the gummytoolbox and see if that one works. I havent tried that one. let us know if it works.
Ya I tried and it didn't work for me.
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Ya I tried and it didn't work for me.
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here is the email app i used, let me know if it works for you. i have about 25 email apps and hope i gave u the right one..
I have tried and tried but cannot get Yahoo mail added to my email. I also tried to download your link but it says my phone does not support this.
chargerchick said:
I have tried and tried but cannot get Yahoo mail added to my email. I also tried to download your link but it says my phone does not support this.
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I think you have to use this one to replace the one in /system/app since it's a preinstalled application.
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chargerchick said:
I have tried and tried but cannot get Yahoo mail added to my email. I also tried to download your link but it says my phone does not support this.
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Go into your system/app folder and delete the stock email app that you have installed. Of course by deleting this you may/may not lose all of your accounts you have setup. Then download the link and install this one ( also make sure you rename the app to Email.apk ) i dont think you have too, but if you have a problem installing it, try it, you never know). Problem is since you allready have the email app installed, it will not let you install another one. I know this to work, for i have tried several different version that have been floating around these site, and they are all the same version, So i pulled the stock email app that i have on my Gtab and used that one on my Charge and it works great. push/pull-reply-create all works now, as well as being able to create all email accounts that i have without any issues. Just make sure once you have installed that you restart your phone for all to take into effect. Look at the app page on the phone and make sure you have the white envolope w/green @ symbol on it. If you do and you launch the app you should have a page loaded that has all the different email accounts that you can use to automatically setup. Just enter you [email protected] account and the password and then click next and if all setup correctly it will prompt you to pick a nickname and name to use for that account. Finished.. LOL
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Go into your system/app folder and delete the stock email app that you have installed. Of course by deleting this you may/may not lose all of your accounts you have setup. Then download the link and install this one ( also make sure you rename the app to Email.apk ) i dont think you have too, but if you have a problem installing it, try it, you never know). Problem is since you allready have the email app installed, it will not let you install another one. I know this to work, for i have tried several different version that have been floating around these site, and they are all the same version, So i pulled the stock email app that i have on my Gtab and used that one on my Charge and it works great. push/pull-reply-create all works now, as well as being able to create all email accounts that i have without any issues. Just make sure once you have installed that you restart your phone for all to take into effect. Look at the app page on the phone and make sure you have the white envolope w/green @ symbol on it. If you do and you launch the app you should have a page loaded that has all the different email accounts that you can use to automatically setup. Just enter you [email protected] account and the password and then click next and if all setup correctly it will prompt you to pick a nickname and name to use for that account. Finished.. LOL
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Not to sound dumb.....I like the stock email app as well and it does not work on my phone. I DL your file. now I place it on my sd card and flash it, is that how I install it?
No you dont flash it. Once you delete the email app you have in your system folder. Then you just click on the email app to install it. Of course you will have to redo your settings, and then you should be good to go.
putney1477 said:
Not to sound dumb.....I like the stock email app as well and it does not work on my phone. I DL your file. now I place it on my sd card and flash it, is that how I install it?
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I have tried and tried but cannot get Yahoo mail added to my email. I also tried to download your link but it says my phone does not support this.
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Did you try to add it manually as an IMAP account? Enter your email address and password and then select manual setup or whatever that option is. Google the SSL IMAP yahoo settings for android and you should be able to get it. That is how I got mine working.
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here is the email app i used, let me know if it works for you. i have about 25 email apps and hope i gave u the right one..
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Thanks it works, you safe my life.
Khanusma said:
Did you try to add it manually as an IMAP account? Enter your email address and password and then select manual setup or whatever that option is. Google the SSL IMAP yahoo settings for android and you should be able to get it. That is how I got mine working.
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Thank you for this! I googled the settings and it worked! Now I can delete the Yahoo app!

Email app deletes Inbox contents during synch

Hi folks,
The native email app on my Verizon Galaxy S III is setup for POP3 send/receive with my ISP account, just as I've configured on prior phones. When it "syncs" email, anything in my Inbox on the phone literally disappears and new email is downloaded and shown in the Inbox. Sometimes, email sits on the phone for a day then is erased on the next synch.
I've tried turning off synch for this POP3 email under Settings -> Accounts, which seems to keep the Inbox populated longer than an hour or less, but nothing prevents emails from being removed up to a day after being received.
This behavior is unwanted and seems a bug - exact thing happens on our other GS3.
Ideas welcome.
UPDATE: I found a repeatable scenario for this symptom and reported it to Verizon Technical Support. This seems specific to email programs based on the stock ICS code for this phone. I have purchased Kaiten email as a workaround option (it's very good, IMHO - K-9 email is the earlier, still-free version of Kaiten, if you are interested to try).
- ooofest
The included email application also irks me as well; even when I set it to sync ONLY my inbox, it floods me with email from all my other folders, including the junk folder... And to top it off, it syncs waaay more than I tell it too..
Anyways back to your problem, have you tried clearing the email application's data? Perhaps starting fresh with the application might be what you need.
To do that, just to Settings -> Application Manager > Look for 'Email' , press it, and then hit "Clear Data".
When you launch email after that, it will be as if you first opened the application.
Hope that helps..
Thanks, we've tried clearing, deleting/reinstalling the accounts, etc. and no go. I've setup these same POP3 accounts on multiple devices in the past for all sorts of email clients and this is the first to wipe out prior emails before my eyes.
Email should be rather basic and is kind of essential, so a bug like this is odd.
I also don't understand what the Settings -> Accounts -> Email -> Synch checkbox is supposed to do in this case, since the Email app has settings to check for new email every 15 minutes and does so if I uncheck that box in the phone's Settings.
Unfortunately, I haven't found another email client - pay or free - which has a decent interface in comparison to this basic app. It seems stupid to pay for such a basic feature, so I'll phone this in to Verizon as another complaint about the phone (i.e., it won't be the first, unfortunately - I'm hoping this feedback gets to Samsung eventually), but am willing to try other clients just to get a clear, basic interface and solid operation.
- ooofest
Well, if your phone is rooted (it is much easier to do it now in less than five minutes), then you could also replace the stock email application with the aosp email application. It'S the email application that's on pure android. I find it much better than the included app.
yosterwp said:
Well, if your phone is rooted (it is much easier to do it now in less than five minutes), then you could also replace the stock email application with the aosp email application. It'S the email application that's on pure android. I find it much better than the included app.
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Yeah, I've been avoiding root - even with the new procedure - in case the phone needed to go back in due to any h/w issues, since I had WiFi oddness in the first week (which has since gone away . . . even more odd). Just didn't feel like going through unrooting, etc. if returnable issues continued.
It might be what I need to do, though it can't hurt to give Verizon a call and report this app behavior.
- ooofest
I am having a somewhat similar situation. Using the stock email app on my S3, my inbox seems to be deleting any emails older than 1 week? I do have it set to "Never". Anyone else have this?
ricky babalu said:
I am having a somewhat similar situation. Using the stock email app on my S3, my inbox seems to be deleting any emails older than 1 week? I do have it set to "Never". Anyone else have this?
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Yes, though this happens within 24 hours for both of our GS3 phones, despite the "Sync" values in Settings for each account.
I am literally seeing the emails disappear before my eyes on refreshes, as they don't even go into Trash. Something seems awfully amiss.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
Yes, though this happens within 24 hours for both of our GS3 phones, despite the "Sync" values in Settings for each account.
I am literally seeing the emails disappear before my eyes on refreshes, as they don't even go into Trash. Something seems awfully amiss.
- ooofest
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I rely on my emails for business, so this is a huge issue for me.
I am going to give K-9 a try. I might also look into syncing my business account with Gmail using IMAP
yosterwp said:
Well, if your phone is rooted (it is much easier to do it now in less than five minutes), then you could also replace the stock email application with the aosp email application. It'S the email application that's on pure android. I find it much better than the included app.
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Do you happen to have a link? Thank you
Dudenell said:
Do you happen to have a link? Thank you
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Here you go: Click here
Don't forget to thank the op of that thread (too )
I decided to root the Galaxy S III (with the quick method), deleted the shipped email and exchange apps, installed the AOSP versions from ICS and . . . emails disappear from the InBox even faster, now. So, there's something odd going on, here.
I found a copy of the Verizon stock image for our phones, researched how to convert and mount the system.img.ext4 file contained therein, pulled out the Samsung SecEmail and Exchange .apk and .odex files, then recopied them into /system/app. Rebooting had my Samsung email working again, bugs and all.
So, now I'm going to unroot and call Verizon Support. Titanium backup had a backup of these apps, but when I uninstalled the apps from the phone . . . it also deleted the backups, apparently. Hm.
Thanks.
- ooofest
Definitely freaky behavior! I don’t have a phone with POP3 in front of me so I may not have the menu wording exact. I found that if you change Amount of Mail to Sync to “1 Month or 100 Emails” (it was the last option in the drop down box) it corrects the deleted email problem.
Hope this helps,
BigK52
I dont know if you want to go through this or not. I was having serious email issues also. stuff deleting, not receiving, not pushing...etc. I was rooted with a newly flashed Rom and thought maybe it was the Rom causing the issues. Everything on the Rom was working perfectly except this. I also use my email for work so it was important that it work correctly. I had just spent several hours setting my phone up but decided to wipe clean again and reflash. In my set up with Bean V5 it asks if I wanted to restore any emails already set up. the first time I pressed yes, this time I bypassed and instlled everything and prcedded manually not using auto. Everythign went through fine and my email and the rest of the software seems to be working just fine. It was a lot of work and wasted time but hopefully it will be worth it if all works well. Just a thought.
BigK52 said:
Definitely freaky behavior! I don’t have a phone with POP3 in front of me so I may not have the menu wording exact. I found that if you change Amount of Mail to Sync to “1 Month or 100 Emails” (it was the last option in the drop down box) it corrects the deleted email problem.
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Thanks, it was one of the early options I tried here (actually, went with various values), but both phones still delete Inbox emails within 24 hours.
Yes, definitely freaky behavior.
- ooofest
1Android said:
. . . In my set up with Bean V5 it asks if I wanted to restore any emails already set up. the first time I pressed yes, this time I bypassed and instlled everything and prcedded manually not using auto. Everythign went through fine and my email and the rest of the software seems to be working just fine. It was a lot of work and wasted time but hopefully it will be worth it if all works well. Just a thought.
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When I reinstalled the default Samsung email + Exchange APKs after backing out the AOSP versions, I went through "Manual" configuration this time . . . we'll see if that matters, but it really shouldn't. Thanks for the suggestion.
- ooofest
Ouch, it's still not working? If manually setting the settings doesn't work, perhaps it is an issue with the email service you are using... If there is a web interface for your email service, perhaps you have a setting for deleting a message after a certain amount of time or after you view a message. Perhaps that's the case?
Just a thought, I hope in the end it all works out for you
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Yeah, it's rather odd. I tried our Droid Incredible, Incredible 2 and Galaxy Tab (all on Gingerbread) yesterday, with no problems retaining our POP3 emails.
Seems to be a POP3 issue related to the ICS email client. Testing with a Play email replacement today . . .
- ooofest
OK, while on the phone with Verizon Support, I figured out a repeatable problem scenario:
Setup a POP3 account using the default Email app
Pull down emails from your server using POP3. There will be new emails in your phone's local Inbox and you can do anything you like with them (i.e., all functionality is enabled and operates as expected).
At this point, you can sync/refresh the Inbox for your POP3 account as much as you want and the emails you downloaded remain local to the phone.
Delete some or all of the previously downloaded emails from the server. This happens sporadically in our case, because only our PCs delete emails from the mail server at various points in the day, but our phones poll for new emails every 15 minutes.
You can still sync/refresh the Inbox for your POP3 account as much as you want and the emails you downloaded remain local to the phone.
Send a new email to your account, i.e., place a new email on the server.
Refresh your account's Inbox on the phone by either re-opening the closed Email program or hitting the little refresh circle in the upper right corner while viewing the Inbox.
Your new email will be downloaded from the server. And, all emails that were deleted from the server will disappear from your Inbox.
So, the local Inbox disappearances only happen for emails that were deleted from the server, during a synch that brings a new email to the Inbox from that same POP3 server.
I reported this scenario to Verizon Technical Support for submission to Samsung.
There may be other repeatable scenarios which cause local Inbox emails to disappear from the stock Email app, but I am not yet aware of them.
They had another report of the same issue, with only recommended workaround being the installation of a new POP3-supporting Email app (they suggested K-9).
- ooofest
ooofest said:
They had another report of the same issue, with only recommended workaround being the installation of a new POP3-supporting Email app (they suggested K-9).
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I can tell you K9 won't work, either. It also deletes all your emails that aren't on the server once you sync just as the stock app does, however I didn't try K9 with the stock email app deleted so who knows? I guess I'll give it a try with the stock app deleted and report back.
I'll be following this thread, meanwhile I'll probably re-activate my Thunderbolt or my old BlackBerry because, unfortunately, I cannot live with this bug.
UPDATE: Use Titanium BU to remove email app(s), reboot and install Aqua Mail, it retains emails after they are deleted on the server!
This means TOUGH LUCK, ebay people, my Galaxy S3 is NOT FOR SALE!
xs11e said:
I can tell you K9 won't work, either. It also deletes all your emails that aren't on the server once you sync just as the stock app does, however I didn't try K9 with the stock email app deleted so who knows? I guess I'll give it a try with the stock app deleted and report back.
I'll be following this thread, meanwhile I'll probably re-activate my Thunderbolt or my old BlackBerry because, unfortunately, I cannot live with this bug.
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I've moved to the purchased Kaiten email app - from the author of K-9 - and it works great. Respects the settings for each account and there have been no unexpected actions. UI is solid, too.
- ooofest

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