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Hi,
im searchin for a new mobile... i wanted to buy it in the next 2 or 3 weeks, but there is a big problem:
i dunno what mobile would be the best for me :S
I am thinking about Windows mobile and Android ... The windows mobile phones i have used till now are quite nice, but no one really made me fully happy ... i always tried to port other interfaces and so on my lg ks20 and htc diamond.
i´ve seen that android has a quite nice interface with very good touch friendly options...
my windows mobile candidate would be of course the HTC Leo , what the android canditate would be is just open till now ...
I often browse in Wifi networks , like facebook, gmail, icq, etc. and therefor i am searching for an mobile with good browsing quality ... what camera there is ... i dont care about that crap ... just being comfortable in networks , chatting , sharing files and so on...
Hope you can help me ..
else any questions ? just post, i will directly answer.
See ya
Sallal
//EDIT: I saw now some androids and i think nexus one and desire are very good but , what is the difference between them ?
Hi,
In term of memory management Windows mobile is far way better and for the interface also you have a lot of ui for windows mobile that are now very close to the Android style that you are searching for(if not even better).
I first bought an HTC Hero and was very happy the first two months but then it became so boring because of that lack of programs for it.
Now I am on a Leo and I can assure you that the moment you will put this device in your hand,you will be impressed by his speed.
Hurry up before the HD3
what about the htc desire ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4gEQKThsg
this video impressed me
Sense La Révolution for Windows Mobiles SPB Mobile Shell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzIT5DhUZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydHxYziKwY
Here it is in a nutshell,
Android is the new kid on the block, rough around the edges, not fully functional yet, short on apps, in dire need of updates, but with the genuine potential to be an actual iPhone killer ( hence Apple vs HTC suit solely filed to slow down Android ). Android is on it's way, but not going to be great until, after whatever Android phone you buy now, is old and tired.
Windows Mobile is tried and true, tons of free apps, full bluetooth functionality, full Exchange and Office functionality, easy to sync, fully customizable to your needs, but it is what it is and will not get any better. Whatever you buy now, will not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7 Series, and WP7S would appear to be that " make it or break it " for
Windows Mobile.
In short ? Android = up and coming, but not quite there yet. Windows Mobile = Already mature, but could be on the down slide soon.
If you are living for today, Windows Mobile hands down. Come this fall ? Phones with Android 3.0 ? Windows Phone 7 Series ? Who knows.
The Nexus One is Googles Android device made by HTC, The Desire " was " the Droid Eris, but has since been reassigned to the HTC branded Nexus One.
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
sallal said:
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
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http://phandroid.com/2009/11/23/android-vs-windows-mobile/
Add to that limited Bluetooth capabilities and ( important to me ) limited M$ Exchange and Office capabilities it just isn't mature enough yet to be a serious multitasking phone for business.
Don't get me wrong, I think Android is the future of Mobile OS' . WP7s is going to have to do a lot to convince me otherwise. And I am leaning towards an Android phone after Android 3.0 and WP7s come out, just from what I have seen of Android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1 on the Nexus, I just still don't think that it is capable yet.
so you think that if you would buy a smartphone now, you would choose winmo...
if you could buy it in 2 years , you would choose maybe android ... right?
Do not be fooled by a shiny interface just like I was.Besides what you are seeing on an Android phone is the Sense UI made by HTC.
If I am not wrong the Nexus one doesn't have the Sense UI.
I am not telling that Android(in reality Linux) is not a good phone.On the contrary you will find it with very useful applications but in some cases just like what happened to me you will not have a wide range of choice for the same application.
For Ex:If you want a Virtual Keyboard,because Android is still new you will have only 2 or 3 keyboards(maybe there is more now) to choose from but on Windows Mobile you have more than 15 competitors to choose from with years of experience in that field .
So,
Android is for you if you can be satisfied with what you have.
Windows is for you if you are thirsty of applications
Hope this helped
thirsty guy
well, i always need to get more apps to have another quit unuseful thing on my mobile, like wifi router or so
then i take the leo ^^
EDIT: @forcefield: i recieved an email , that swype for android is out your problem is solved now
Here is a quote from another german forum
there is no "better" one, some like winmo and some android more ...
before i buyed my new phone i thinked about the hd2 and the milestone... i choosed the milestone and i dont regret nothing !
looking at the amount of apps i would choose android because its just much easier and uncomplicated .. with more apps than windows mobile.
i dont know whats the difference between the desire and the nexus one , but you can wait until they get on the german market to see more information..
pointing on the battery strength maybe its disapointing but i have to be honest, its normally just between 1 and 3 days depending on how you use your phone.
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i still think that windows mobile has more apps.. but the problem is , they are just widespread in the www.
battery: an issue what wont be solved in 500 years.
Original Post from http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/handyberatung/128679-suche_gutes_browsing_handy.html
Sry for the bad translation, it is freely made by me ^^
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android proted to WM is still a port. It runs within WM and some of the features of Android don't work and some of the features of the phone won't work with the Android port. It will never be as fast or as smooth as Android running natively.
sallal said:
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
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I would take the Leo, faster processor, bigger more beautiful display, more ram. The only plus for the Rhodium is the slide out keyboard.
But just remember that neither phone is going to be upgradable to Windows Phone 7 Series.
of course take the LEO!!!
I own Touch Diamond 2 (which is basically like TP2 without the slide out keyboard) and it's really great and everything. But then I also have access to Samsung Omnia II with 800 Mhz CPU and it's running so much faster and more smoothy. And the big display is insane!! Then go figure because HD2 even comes with 1 GHz!!!! IMO it would be stupid to buy the OLD TP2 with only 528 Mhz.....
jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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No, there's no fully working Android version for any WM phone. They all have bugs and stuff not working.
At first I was in love with the iPad but now I've began thinking to go a much different route for a tablet..
after searching for android tablets I ran across two that caught my eye, one on ebay the sungworld 7in tablet and the Haleron iLet mini...
both feature similar hardware specs (same screen size, resolution, CPU speed, memory, price,etc). the main difference from what I can tell (aside from aesthetics) is the sungworld model looks like its running standard android 1.6 with gapps, whereas the ilet is running android with some UI.
does anyone have any input on how customizable these devices are? any chance of custom roms or app2sd or at least gapps on the iLet..would porting a version of 2.1 be considered impossible or at least not probable?
I love the idea of a cheap android tablet and would appreciate any input on this!
thanks in advance..
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Have you looked at the enTourage eDGe?
I just saw your post on the other tablet thread..I'm not really a fan of the design, its very strange. Plus i already have a netbook, so I'm in the market for a tablet now..
Check out enso-now.com for the zenPad..its a pretty cool 5'' android tablet starting at $155!
Hi,
Anyone bought chinese Hero H7000. I bought recently and I m having
some issues
1) I am unable to connect VPN
2) I have rooted the phone and after that I am unable to do factory reset.
3) How to take rom backup, so in case if i mess up with the phone I can
restore back from sd-card
Regards
No one ever bought H7000.
Any idea
shezad123 said:
No one ever bought H7000.
Any idea
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Google search
"guia instalando android adb interface em celulares chineses android debug bridge" (portuguese)
there is a link teaching how to install the drivers
OK
procura no google
"guia instalando android adb interface em celulares chineses android debug bridge"
lá tem um link ensinando como instalar os drivers
ok
Hi there:
So is it a good device the H7000 for serious development ? What is the feedback of the equipment ?
Cheers,
i'm also considering buying one from here:
http://www.mobile-phones.cn/hero-h7...ass-capacitive-touch-phone-p-5969.html?page=1
there are tons of reviews down the page but i'm not sure if those reviews are real and whether the website is trustworthy or not.......haven't really heard of the site before.
The specs seems to be pretty decent for that price, i'm considering selling my Motorola Milestone and use this instead since I would opt to go for a 4.3' screen over 3.7' any day.
It looks like it has just 3 buttons
Is it true that Android devices work with 4 buttons ?
Anyone has in his/her hand one of these ? Are you developing on it ?
Thanks
Poseidon2011 said:
Is it true that Android devices work with 4 buttons ?
Anyone has in his/her hand one of these ? Are you developing on it ?
Thanks
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No offense, but what kind of dumb question is that? Of course Android devices can work with many buttons. There shouldn't even be any limitations to how many buttons a device can use or have anyway.
The HTC HD2 can use Android fine, even though it's not native and officially supported but it runs Android really smoothly, and guess what the HD2 has 5 buttons.
Most Android devices now days have 4 or 5 capacitive buttons on them, while they're not physical buttons but they're still there.
Lastly, the Hero H7000 doesn't even have 5 buttons, it only has 3. It's a clone of the HTC HD7. Maybe look at it properly first...?
Also, since it's a chinese clone of the HD7 and not many people actually buy chinese clones like these, there is pretty much no development or support for it. Tons of chinese clones or knockoffs like these use the MTK6516 CPU. It's super slow since it's only 460Mhz. The main point is, almost all chinese cloned devices use that CPU, so it's only logical to think that someone might have added support on apps like SetCPU to include the MTK6516. But there isn't any support, no one could overclock this CPU yet.
I Were going to go buy a Hero1700. But see these posts, I must think about it wheather it is suitable to use or not.
Hero H7000
Hello ,
I am new to this so if anyone could help me please !!
I have bought H7000 Android 2.2 and trying to upgrade it to 2.3.1 with FG8 Android 2.3.1 and SP Flash Tool exe_v1.1052.03 .
I tried with several roms like A601FY_Flash_V2.04_20110328 , A601FY_Flash(MT29C4G48MAZAPAKD-5IT)_LCD(1P3692-W1)_sensor(SET130B)_V2.03_20110321.7z and A601FY_V5_Flash(toshibahynix)_LCD(1P3692-W1+W350370AAA)_sensor(SET130B)_V2.16_20110902 .
(previously I have rooted the device with Z4 from market)
the installation is completed successfully but when trying to boot the device - I have a black screen , I here the HTC starting sound , after about 2 - 3 minutes the 3 front buttons are on and that's it - black screen . If I press the Power button it only lights the 3 buttons and press it again it turns them off ....
If anyone see this post please reply !!
Thank You Anyway ...
I brought this phone from second hand (local phone store ) it is useless piece of...uh...rooted it changed dpi so doesnt lag so much nut is's good only for wifi hotspot (root) ..really as you say- can not connect to vpn, no oc, no flashing ._.
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Moved to General Q&A.
Hello everybody,
I was wondering something... If Android can be put on the touchpad, can it be also ported to the Pre 3 which is running WebOS too ?
Actually, I miss a GPS navigation app on WebOS like the one I used to have on my previous Android phone.
Thank you for your answers,
Simon.
It probably can (i think i heard somewhere that the bootloader was unlocked too, like the touchpad)
I have got HD2 since 20 months now, I am thinking about changing it to Pre3, because I like design of the phone, also WebOS looks sleek and decent, however I will miss android functionality. I would like to see Port similar to HD2 android then It would be PERFECT phone to me.
It would be nice to see ICS ported to the Pre 3. Since the Nexus Prime doesn't require hardware buttons it would share a similar layout as the Pre 3, same with the notification light.
In a dream world it would be nice to utilize the gesture area in the Pre 3 in Android as well.
What would be needed to start something like this? Create a bootloader? I'd imagine people would like to dual boot similar to the touchpad but idk if we would be able to use mboot on the Pre 3 as well as the TP.
Tim
I, too, an interested in this and will test anything when i have the time for any devs working on it
I was wondering this too. webOS is generally the same all around. I dont see why it couldnt. That would be awesome to have a phone that dual boots webOS and Android.
how about alien dalvik port, now that webos may live on.
Hi,
I bought yesterday my galaxy s6. Everything was going fine, the new touchwiz looks really beaultifull, the screen was the best display I ever seen, the fingerprint sensor works great, etc.
Nevertheless, i noticed a stuttering/scrolling lag in almost every app. For example: scrolling up and down on whatsapp chats stutters every time. It is not smooth as my old iphone 5. On instagram, facebook, contacts, playstore, occurs the same problem... they are not heavy apps, I can not really understand why it is happening. It is bothering me and I will come back to apple if this problems persists.
Anyone have an idea about how to make it work perfectly as a gadget called "the next big thing" and that costs US$ 800 should?
I'm thinking in try to root and install a debloated room, but I will probably lost my warratie if I do this
Hey so while playing with some settings to try and prevent my apps from being killed so aggressively, I noticed that by limiting the amount of background process you can limit the amount of stutter. I have it set to "at most 4 processes" and I've noticed a vast improvement in the stuttering in apps. Just enable developer options and scroll all the way to the bottom and it should be there. Hope that helps!
Flame41 said:
Hi,
I bought yesterday my galaxy s6. Everything was going fine, the new touchwiz looks really beaultifull, the screen was the best display I ever seen, the fingerprint sensor works great, etc.
Nevertheless, i noticed a stuttering/scrolling lag in almost every app. For example: scrolling up and down on whatsapp chats stutters every time. It is not smooth as my old iphone 5. On instagram, facebook, contacts, playstore, occurs the same problem... they are not heavy apps, I can not really understand why it is happening. It is bothering me and I will come back to apple if this problems persists.
Anyone have an idea about how to make it work perfectly as a gadget called "the next big thing" and that costs US$ 800 should?
I'm thinking in try to root and install a debloated room, but I will probably lost my warratie if I do this
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1.Turn off power saving mode it causes glitches
2. Iphones have smoother scrolls than android becoz of optimisation of ui
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in general, iphones are smoother in 3rd party apps, because of the optimization, and in facebook if you give it a couple of seconds to make it load everything then it wont lag or stutter, in twitter it does stutter......in contacts app there is no lag at all.....i am using the phone for about two and a half weeks.....
Hi everyone! I tried all the solutions that you mentioned... yesterday I tried many configurations and I realized that the main cause for the scrolling lag seems to be the google apps... I reset the phone 3 times and in my last try I installed whatsapp, configurated my e-mails, instagram and facebook was ok. But when I installed the play store, everything start to have lag/stutter.
Does anyone also noticed this?
It is important to mention that, even when the system was "good", when I was scrolling, I realized a slight stutter. It is really hard to accept that android will never be smooth as iOS. This galaxy s6 has a much much better specifications than apple's phone costs the same price.
Flame41 said:
Hi everyone! I tried all the solutions that you mentioned... yesterday I tried many configurations and I realized that the main cause for the scrolling lag seems to be the google apps... I reset the phone 3 times and in my last try I installed whatsapp, configurated my e-mails, instagram and facebook was ok. But when I installed the play store, everything start to have lag/stutter.
Does anyone also noticed this?
It is important to mention that, even when the system was "good", when I was scrolling, I realized a slight stutter. It is really hard to accept that android will never be smooth as iOS. This galaxy s6 has a much much better specifications than apple's phone costs the same price.
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I think this issue was discussed before here on XDA. If you do a search, you might be able to find a fix to your problem.
Japultra said:
I think this issue was discussed before here on XDA. If you do a search, you might be able to find a fix to your problem.
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I tried to find a solution via xda and other forums and didn't the solution. I understood that this stutter is caused by the UI of Android, which loads the information different from in iOS. However, I didn't find any solution as you mentioned. Could you please post the link?
Flame41 said:
I tried to find a solution via xda and other forums and didn't the solution. I understood that this stutter is caused by the UI of Android, which loads the information different from in iOS. However, I didn't find any solution as you mentioned. Could you please post the link?
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You should stop comparing android and ios, what ios does is loads everything first then displays and android does both at the same time, ios has too much optimisation to solve each and every smallest issue and they have enough time too as they have only 2 devices a year , though when you get a highly functional and customizable UI like android some stutter is understood in fact we users dont even notice it. Both ios and android are made differently they funtion differently and are made to please different types of customers android focuses more on funtions and features which are at much higher level than ios! Let me give you an example , even if you buy one of the best laptops you will still find stutter because the UI is too complex to work smoothly on the level of ios! If you know a little about coding you would have an idea that smaller the code smoother the program is and thats what ios does plus it has optimisation. My advice would be you would get used to it just ignore it and you will stop even noticing it plus you wpuld admire theore functional andrpid UI!
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bhavstech said:
2. Iphones have smoother scrolls than android becoz of optimisation of ui
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And they scroll much slower / more limited. Try to scroll through a long list or webpage with just one or two swipes - it's almost impossible on iOS because there seems to be a hard limit how far you can go with one swipe. This can be really annoying in daily usage if you want to get to the bottom of something, but also means that it has to load less content at once which makes it look smoother.
bhavstech said:
You should stop comparing android and ios, what ios does is loads everything first then displays and android does both at the same time, ios has too much optimisation to solve each and every smallest issue and they have enough time too as they have only 2 devices a year , though when you get a highly functional and customizable UI like android some stutter is understood in fact we users dont even notice it. Both ios and android are made differently they funtion differently and are made to please different types of customers android focuses more on funtions and features which are at much higher level than ios! Let me give you an example , even if you buy one of the best laptops you will still find stutter because the UI is too complex to work smoothly on the level of ios! If you know a little about coding you would have an idea that smaller the code smoother the program is and thats what ios does plus it has optimisation. My advice would be you would get used to it just ignore it and you will stop even noticing it plus you wpuld admire theore functional andrpid UI!
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So the android will never be smooth as iOS? It's really hard to understand the reason. For example, windows phones is smooth as iOS and was made to work with several hardwares.
There is any way or app that could help the scrolling by slowing down as you told?
Flame41 said:
So the android will never be smooth as iOS? It's really hard to understand the reason. For example, windows phones is smooth as iOS and was made to work with several hardwares.
There is any way or app that could help the scrolling by slowing down as you told?
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See stutter is only seen in 3rd party apps which are made by other developers and not google ,you wont see them in preloaded apps,so it would be wrong to blame android for that and there is no connection to hardware, windows again is less complicated than android and hence better smoothness so the best would be ignore it you wont even notice after a few days !
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Flame41 said:
I tried to find a solution via xda and other forums and didn't the solution. I understood that this stutter is caused by the UI of Android, which loads the information different from in iOS. However, I didn't find any solution as you mentioned. Could you please post the link?
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Found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/scrolling-performance-t3090271
I'll never stop comparing android with ios.
My old galaxy s4 (FlexOs rom) was as smooth as my girlfriends iphone 5, and faster opening apps.
unfortunately wifi and bluetooth stopped working after 2 years
So, what I did?
I bought the new galaxy s6 hopping it was smoother than galaxy s4.
Everything is really faster. But scrolling is driving me crazy.
I Don't care if both ios and android are made differently and function differently and are made to please different types of customers.
I could scroll with s4 and I can't anymore with s6.
Its not true that Android never became smooth as IOS.
I switched from Nexus 5 to S6 and its a Samsung Problem. My Nexus 5 ist smooth all the Time! On Play Store and Facebook.... I compared with Iphone 6 and its really Smooth. Xperia z3 ist near on Nexus 5 smoothnes. Try it by yourself you will see.
Maybe Samsung have to ask Sony how to make the you UI smooth as Xperia UI in my Opinion.
Totally agree, it's Samsung causing the stutter.
My girlfriend has Xperia Z3 Compact and it runs smooth.
S6 stutters a great deal compared to her Z3 and especially my Nexus 5.
I still use the Nexus 5 although the S6 has a better camera, display and sound.
Stock android fully optimized for S6 (option to use Samsung camera app) is what I'm looking for, any tips?
kswiss86 said:
Its not true that Android never became smooth as IOS.
I switched from Nexus 5 to S6 and its a Samsung Problem. My Nexus 5 ist smooth all the Time! On Play Store and Facebook.... I compared with Iphone 6 and its really Smooth. Xperia z3 ist near on Nexus 5 smoothnes. Try it by yourself you will see.
Maybe Samsung have to ask Sony how to make the you UI smooth as Xperia UI in my Opinion.
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totally Agree! Z3, nexus 5 are the good examples for smooth ui. (nexus line won of course)
and yes, if we could get cyanogen working on S6....but. nope
Erwin van Hunen said:
Totally agree, it's Samsung causing the stutter.
My girlfriend has Xperia Z3 Compact and it runs smooth.
S6 stutters a great deal compared to her Z3 and especially my Nexus 5.
I still use the Nexus 5 although the S6 has a better camera, display and sound.
Stock android fully optimized for S6 (option to use Samsung camera app) is what I'm looking for, any tips?
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You should try this rom with Aroma Add-on Package: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-3-t3119968
It's really smooth to me, and all galaxy s6 features, like Samsung camera app. \o/
hope it helps.
I spend tons times on web for searching facebook scroling lag and i fuond magical app in play store fstrim he solved my problem no more lag scrooling withuot lag withuot stutter
Close apps instal adaway{need root}. And no more scroll lag in facebook or others apps. Scrool lag is from advertising. Adaway manage hosts. It helps me!