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making the switch to charge from fascinate..

I think. anyone here leave the fascinate for charge and happy/unhappy? pros cons? thanks
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Sorry the promotion ended today. I was just told this buy a vzw rep when I went to get my new charge activated.
Still though the patch for missed calls was released today and the fassy is a great phone. Good luck.
And if I were you I'd still try.

duuurp said:
Sorry the promotion ended today. I was just told this buy a vzw rep when I went to get my new charge activated.
Still though the patch for missed calls was released today and the fassy is a great phone. Good luck.
And if I were you I'd still try.
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What are you talking about? It's not a promotion, it's a warranty replacement. You could hold on the the fascinate until the day your 1 year warranty is over and get a replacement phone because the phone is broken.
OP: I did the same thing 2 weeks ago and couldn't be more happy. You're going to love the charge.

yummylishouz said:
I think. anyone here leave the fascinate for charge and happy/unhappy? pros cons? thanks
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Its pretty awesome I think. Battery life is decent, the screen is amazing, 4G is super fast, touchwiz is easily covered and/or removed (with some awesome roms) the front camera (as well as back) is nice, and speaker quality is loud but top notch... however it has the same internal memory and RAM as the Fassy plus hard buttons on the bottom, also some report problems with output through mini HDMI but this could be due to cables or errors with apps/tv's. All in all a solid upgrade, a notification LED and a little better internal hardware (RAM and memory) and this would be a near perfect phone
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G

I love everything about this phone, even the little quirks you'll discover...except for the battery life. But there are tons of threads here telling about how to remedy this.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.42

I have small hands, so to me the phone feels just a tad big, but the awesome screen, huge keyboard, and easy to read texts and web pages more than make up for it. Reception is outstanding, too! It's a noticeable improvement over my old fascinate.

thankyou for the replies! so im getting pretty much all positive? great step up from the fassy? i thought there WAS an LED notification? wah. not that it would be a deal breaker.. ive been dealing with no LED since i got this phone in feb. but i had a D1 and loved the LED. either way. i like the front facing camera.. and if its a replacement and its that much of an upgrade than why not do it if i can? plus my phone does have terrible service. always missing calls and texts.. i thought it was just my phone. didnt realize till this deal took place that it was that widespread. size factor.. is it THAT much bigger than the fassy?

Samsung doesn't put notification LEDs on their new phones. Not on the Charge, not on the Nexus S, and not on the Galaxy S II. Unfortunately we don't even have BLN for the Charge because the code is currently incompatible.
As for size, yes, it's significantly larger than the Fascinate, no matter what anybody tells you. But the size doesn't bother me nearly as much as I thought it would.

Sleek69 said:
What are you talking about? It's not a promotion, it's a warranty replacement. You could hold on the the fascinate until the day your 1 year warranty is over and get a replacement phone because the phone is broken.
OP: I did the same thing 2 weeks ago and couldn't be more happy. You're going to love the charge.
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I think he means that the tech bulletin no longer allows for a change to a Charge. A buddy of mine who got approved to have his Fascinates changed a few days ago got denied today because they are releasing the OTA that fixes the problem.

paul25rs said:
I think he means that the tech bulletin no longer allows for a change to a Charge. A buddy of mine who got approved to have his Fascinates changed a few days ago got denied today because they are releasing the OTA that fixes the problem.
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ah really??? that sucks so should i even bother trying lol i dont want to put my phone back to stock just to get denied. although i do have other issues that im sure werent "fixed" with the update.. ie: unresponsive screen frequently and plenty of freezes/reboots.

I found it ironic that the day receive my Charges, they release the OTA. I was defaulting my Fascinates before sending them back, and *POOF*, ED05 Corporate. So far, I haven't had it running long enough to make an opinion on the Charge, but you can't argue with that speed. I noticed that my screen flickers when it turns on. Anybody else seeing this?

Charge kills the Fascinate...you won't look back trust me. I was expecting worse battery life and have experienced the exact opposite which is a plus. I don't think there's even a comparison when you factor in 4g, build quality, super amoled +. I'm personally loving my Charge right now.

I seem to love my charge I just am sad over no led notification and the bottom buttons don't wake up the phone. But all in all I'm liking it.
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Got my Charge ordered today, I'll be joining y'all when I pickup my phone next weekend.
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Eris _2.1_2010 said:
Got my Charge ordered today, I'll be joining y'all when I pickup my phone next weekend.
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so then theres still a possibility i can get it? everyones saying the offer has been pulled since the ED05 update rolled out today and was supposed to fix all the issues..

Eris _2.1_2010 said:
Got my Charge ordered today, I'll be joining y'all when I pickup my phone next weekend.
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Sorry, the bandwagon is full LOL!...Sorry, I couldn't resist! I think its a much better phone then people give it credit for... definitely exceeded my expectations.

tysdad08 said:
I seem to love my charge I just am sad over no led notification and the bottom buttons don't wake up the phone. But all in all I'm liking it.
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That's for a very good reason. Think about it: if the physical bottom buttons woke up your phone, it would wake up like crazy while in pockets or purses. Those get pressed all the time on my phone just by walking around.

yummylishouz said:
so then theres still a possibility i can get it? everyones saying the offer has been pulled since the ED05 update rolled out today and was supposed to fix all the issues..
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I called on sunday and they sent out a dinc2. I ended up going to the store today and got it ordered and they did mention an ota was bein sent out. Just wish I could've got my charge today but I left town today and I'll get it when I get back home next weekend.
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Eris _2.1_2010 said:
I called on sunday and they sent out a dinc2. I ended up going to the store today and got it ordered and they did mention an ota was bein sent out. Just wish I could've got my charge today but I left town today and I'll get it when I get back home next weekend.
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hmm.. well maybe ill still attempt it if you went in and got it ordered today..you got the charge as a REPLACEMENT or bought it out?

Very much enjoyed the transition. Missing CM7 and fully customized GB kernels, but they will come in time.
Screen is significantly larger. Phone is noticeably thicker, but nowhere near the brick that the Thunderbolt is. 4G is amazing - and maybe I just got super lucky, but after flashing GC GBE's latest via ODIN right upon getting the phone, I have the most amazing battery life I have ever experience in a smartphone. On a grade of Blackberry (-2921912912) to iPhone (+8239238932) - the Charge has (thus far) been even better than the iPhone on battery. At first I thought it was because I'm on WiFi all the time (now that WiFi actually works, unlike with the Fascinate) - so with the data radios disabled, it was sipping juice... however, out and about and even on 4G/3G border, I still get ridiculous battery life.
I still can't believe I managed to make a 15 minute drive, hang out in a store for 15 minutes (using 4G to product compare the whole time), make a 15 minute drive home.. at it was still at 100%.
My fascinate would've been in the 80s by then.. if not worse.
tl;dr: amazing battery, better radios in ALL aspects compared to fascinate, bigger screen, only missing CM7 and custom GB kernels.. and it's a bit thicker.

This phone is awesome

With all the complaining that goes on here, I figured a positive post couldn't hurt every once in a while.
I flashed the 2.3.6 TBH leak as soon as It came out and I feel like I bought a new phone!! I added ICS fuju tweaks, imoseyons 4.0 kernel and a few other tweaks and it hit 2350 in quadrant last night.
I use Launcher Pro Plus and absolutely LOVE it. I set all animation speeds in the launcher to 100% and it absolutely flies. The response it instantaneous, the thing is responding faster than my bosses bionic in most areas (what a steaming pile that phone is).
Now, with the camera button working from the power/search buttons this phone is almost perfect IMHO. My phone never freezes, hotboots or screeches on a call.
Maybe I just got lucky with mine but I have never had any problems that weren't directly my own fault and I had it for months. I don't know how it ran with the stock setup as I odined it to gummy 1.9.1 on the very first boot (it wasn't even activated on VZ yet) and have gone on from there.
I have owned a TON of phones and this is hands down the best one yet. I have two gorilla extended batteries with it and plan on keeping this phone a long time. The screen/sound/camera are all awesome. I had a liberty ROMed DroidX that I loved (I still have it) but these three items are all drastically better in the charge.
~John

I agree. I'm very happy with my charge. All I've done is flash the new leak and this thing flies.
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Same here. This is by far the best phone I've ever owned.
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I agree and battery life over 3g is insane.

By the way, before anybody accuses me of being a "fanboy" or apologist for samsung etc, I am the exact opposite of that. If I was having tons of problems, I would be *****ing just as loud and often as any poster here.
I personally get annoyed as hell at posters like that. I have an ipad2 and I had to stop posting to an iphone/ipad forum when I came close to getting banned for criticizing some of the many deficencies of the ipad. The clowns on that forum did not want to hear ANYTHING negative about their beloved iphone/ipad systems.
When I posted anything bad about the ipad, you would have thought I had insulted somebodies mother.........
~John

I love my Charge too. In the screen and audio department I believe it is the best 4G phone on Verizon. The camera is great too! If my phone didn't drop data, have gps lock issues, and drop out the microphone on calls occasionally I would also be sticking with this phone for my whole contract. I am jumping ship to the Galaxy Nexus as soon as possible though. I hope that this phone gets the support that it deserves in the software department from Samsung with some Gingerbread source and working radio software.
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Bear55 said:
If my phone didn't drop data, have gps lock issues, and drop out the microphone on calls
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I would go for the Nexus myself if I had those problems.
I almost never drop data, my GPS locks in 5 seconds & I don't make enough calls to know if the mic works or not (I do almost ALL texting)
~John

I like this phone. End of story. Sure, there are better ones out there, but I'm content with my Charge.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Infinity Beta

I actually feel kind of bad when I see people posting the issues they're having because there's no way to duplicate it, to help with troubleshooting.
I, for one, have had not 1 single data drop. No voice call issues, no hotboots, no redraws, no lag, no nothing. Sometimes I seriously wish I could have some issues with it so I could help people out. However, I'm available for my upgrade in March and I plan on using it.

+1 on not having any issues.
She's running real smooth on EP4. No data drops. And I'm really digging the ICS theme. Can't wait for source to be released so the devs can really show what this phone is made of.

This phone really got nice for me on EP3HA, and I have yet to migrate to EP4P. Also, don't forget to get Voodoo Screen tuning! This screen puts most phones to shame. I hope we get Voodoo Color someday. Perhaps more devs will gain interest in this phone if we get an official release. I have a hunch that the Galaxy Nexus is going to get a lot of attention, but I will personally wait for SAMOLED+ HD.

loved my charge until, i did a backup and some how i got that stock android recovery system so now i am thinking about keeping my phone stock for a while anyway although i do love some of the roms i tried to odin back but computer would not recognize phone so i was sol on that one.. so i am getting my replacement today shouuld be here soon seeing how the stock o.s. is going to treat me.....

bfitzpatrickd2d said:
loved my charge until, i did a backup and some how i got that stock android recovery system so now i am thinking about keeping my phone stock for a while anyway although i do love some of the roms i tried to odin back but computer would not recognize phone so i was sol on that one.. so i am getting my replacement today shouuld be here soon seeing how the stock o.s. is going to treat me.....
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Try plugging into a different USB port. I noticed some ports don't get enough juice.
Also, my procedure for Odin, is :
1)battery out
2)usb cable in
3)Volume up + power to recovery screen
4)battery in
without the battery back in, it will fail half way for me. Without the usb cable in this one slot on my computer, it won't even read it.
On EP4P, it has peformed better than ever before, but i still get random data drops and text messages "failed" for no reason. At home, i get 4G 5 bars. For some unknown reason, the 4G will dissapear every once in awhile and i have to reset my data to get it back. Other times, it goes to 3G. Just now i got 2 texts sent back as failed. I hit resend and they worked. but sucks to have to do this.

I love the charge also, it's the best choice for me right now.. I am testing out an Iphone4S, and both of these phones are amazing. But there's something about the Droid charge. that i can't let go of.. maybe it's the ease of file transfers.. or the fact that i can play FF8 on it. That and the 4G. I must say that the Charge is buggy at time compared to the Epic 4G. but hey.

orateam said:
Also, my procedure for Odin, is :
1)battery out
2)usb cable in
3)Volume up + power to recovery screen
4)battery in
without the battery back in, it will fail half way for me.
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Another way to get into DL mode for Odin is to shut down and remove the battery. Then hold down the volume down button and plug in the USB cable.
That will put it immediately into DL mode, then reinstall the battery and flash away.
~John

HTC for life?, One X has sent me packing.

I've always had an HTC phone everything from the EVO shift (yee yeah), to the Inspire HD, then got a Vivid, now I'm using this One X AT&T. I've been spoiled by Sense, I can't imagine having to use a Samsung. It's nice, fast yada yada but geeez its bubbly icons kill it for me.
This OneX I can't understand why the All the softkeys or home keys have been changed. The back key is for left hand people, Why does the recent apps button even exist and then put it in the most convenient place? No battery? What I mean to say is no extra battery. Ive always bought an extra battery so that if I don't have a plug-in or charger I got it covered.
Can someone give me any reason why the charge port is on the side?
No SD storage... This is probably the main reason Im done with HTC. A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
I never write these vent posts.. I would fight someone lastweek if they talked trash about HTC phones. Maybe I got lemon, it's just One thing after another.
Although it seems like I'm trashing this phone I really love it. I just can't store anything important on it or take pictures, video.. I've read so many posts on replacing the camera but I just hate to tear into it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I never knew how important it was..
No one can say anything bad about the screen on the One X. It's amazing..
Sound is great
Smooth running phone too..
I'm scared to spend money on another HTC product. Maybe there is a way to try out a phone for a couple days that would be great.
THOUGHTS?????
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Tampered like a mother f....er

You have the right to voice your opinion but this isn't really the place to do it. You're just knocking the phone. It's not a perfect phone, but it's really good once you get it rooted and all that. Stay respectful, everyone!
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I'm wondering why you bought it on the first place.
Almost all of your complaints are hardware ones that you know about before buying the phone?
Personally I don't mind the hardware at all. External SD would be nice but not a big deal. And I like right side unlock buttons.
As far as the camera I think it was just bad luck or damage. Haven't heard about it happening much at all.
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My niggles:
They put pogo contacts on the phone... but couldn't be bothered to make anything that actually uses them.
9.xGB of storage when I was expecting the typical 14.xGB for a phone advertised with 16GB.
HUGE pain to get root early on, though partially att's fault.
The phone loses signal if I leave it face up. (really gotta find time to get that fixed...)
Other than that, it's been an awesome phone.

I think HTC could've improved more in the music department and camera, but I agree with RollTribe. It's not a perfect phone, and there will never be a perfect phone imo. For me it was the software and hardware (GPS works!!) that made me stay.
Overall I would consider the XL solid. I'm going to look past the HTC One, though, and wait for the next generation.
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I think the back button is in a perfect spot for right handed people, it is right in reach of my thumb when held in my right hand.
You complain about the recent app button, but I don't follow your complaint. It exists so you can multitask, you say it is in a convenient spot and I agree, easily accessed by the right thumb when held right handed.
Extra battery? I have never found myself wanting to buy extra batteries for any phone ever. I just charge mine when required. This phone lasts a full day easy if you are not playing games on it. I am a heavy phone user with maybe 30-50 calls every work day, sync an ics calendar every hour, use calendar, contacts, browser and email a whole bunch. The phone lasts the entire day. These days with my car dock I can play games all day without issue
Charge port on the side makes for easy landscape car docking, perfect for GPS. I slip mine into the car charger often these days, it is one of the easiest phones to get in and out of the dock as the charge port is on the side.
SD storage, again I use my phone for a whole bunch of things and have never gone close to using the full storage. I stream over Spotify via Bluetooth to my car head unit. I have about 20-30 user apps installed. I just can not fill the phone. I even have the 16GB model from Hong Kong while most around me who bought from Telstra have 32GB.
I have had my phone for 15 months now and the camera still works perfectly. My last phone(s) was a Nexus One and a Nokia E68(or something) I smashed the camera lens on the Nokia before 12 months, not sure how, but my One XL is fine.
Then the next user, Zodiac:
I like the unlock at the top, easy to reach with right index finger, but can not be accidentally pushed.
Then, antichamp:
pogo pin issues( I initially really wanted to use the pogo pins aswell just for the gimmick until I realized they only seem cool)
1)The pogo pins are used on the desk dock.
2)The USB port actually "locks" the phone in to the car dock, the car dock requires a locking mechanism unlike the desk dock.
3)The pogo pins would cause scratch marks along the back as the pins drag along the case as you slide the phone in and out of a car dock.
4)The pins on the dock would wear out because of #3
5)What is wrong with the USB port?
The phone is easy to get root on. All issues are AT&T, the phone in EVERY other region is a breeze to unlock.
My gripe is weird data issues, where you sometimes need to give the phone a kick (eg via airplane mode toggling) to reset data (3g, 4g or wifi).
This was been improved dramatically though the updates but is still a niggling issue that sometimes crops up.
Also originally I disliked not having a hardware menu key and being forced into the Android 3 dot menu thing. Ofcourse HTC listened and fixed that issue in an update.

When you say sound is great are we talking about the same phone? Can barely hear my phone speakers from the back seat of my car.
That and spotty service/data issues are my only gripes on this phone.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app

cannonofcourse said:
Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
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I think I might be having the same issue as you. Does the camera app just freeze immediately and crash? Then says cannot connect to camera when you try to open it again. Happened to me on AOKP Milestone 2 (rohan said it was an issue in the mainline AOKP), but now I've run 3.18 RUU and flashed the latest CM10.1 nightly and had the same issue.
Sent from my S-Off, turbo injected AT&T HTC One X (evita), running AOKP 4.2.2 & using XDA Premium

cannonofcourse said:
A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
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This only occurs after you have modded the phone, so you can't blame HTC for this. Factory reset from bootloader works fine on stock phones.
The way to secure your data is very simple: Don't factory reset from bootloader. Its been mentioned in countless places. So if you wiped your backups, its your own fault for lack of proper research.

Research? Lets just try and read before quoting...
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This only occurs after you have modded the phone, so you can't blame HTC for this. Factory reset from bootloader works fine on stock phones.
The way to secure your data is very simple: Don't factory reset from bootloader. Its been mentioned in countless places. So if you wiped your backups, its your own fault for lack of proper research.
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I would expect this kind of blasphemy if I posted a dumb video on YouTube, but the fact that this is a dev site full of "professionals". I posted a comment against my better judgement to try and find answers or suggestions about my phone. The first response is that
"This isnt the place for that" And then 2nd response is
"Why did you buy the one x, you should have known about these things"
First of all I dont think its constructive to rip someone down for a post when clearly alot of people are having the same problem. And I wish I would have found an honest review of this phone before I bought it. I wish I could have read my post before buying this phone. But for some reason Im a black sheep (to a few) for giving my opinion on very important flaws that anyone should be concerned with. I love HTC and have 6 devices prior to this one.
Im not sure who (the 5th reply) twist....? works for and to make statements like never having a storage issue and dont mind the internal card.? I never said anything about the storage. I am commenting on the fact you cant remove the sd card just to make sure the data is secure. And I would love to have a number of how many people use a car dock or computer dock.?? Maybe this guy works for a manufacturer/...///??
I always carry an extra battery and Im not the only person who does. To act like that is unreasonable is just ridiculous.
Of course not all phones are perfect Of course! Why would anyone feel the need to say that...
I love my ONE X It just annoys me that I cant take pictures of my little girl with it. Or store any important data on it. Ive had at least 5 people contact me about the camera issue and are having the same problem.
This last reply to my review and concerns and wanted suggestions takes the cake.
The last comment clearly says that if "you want to secure your data then dont do a factory reset from the boot-loader. It only happens on Modded phones". I have 6 HTC phones and none of them wipe the complete phone to include the external sd. NONE... I wanted to know if it was possible to lock the sd storage or "trick" it to thinking it had an external sd and dont wipe that. If you dont know the answer then fine. I dont see how that is irrational. And I dont think anyone comes to this site because they want to get information on "never modding or rooting there phone." This site is kinda geared towards people who enjoy learning and doing cool, great and ingenious things to make everyone's life better. Or awesome. But to get completely ripped by senior members and the comments being about something other than what I or other members even said is UN professional. This site encourages members to post on General Forumns. I think its 10 before I can move to the big boy pages. But at this rate what could I possible have to gain by it. If I make mistakes or brick my phone then why should I feel like an idiot for wanting people to know why and how it happened to save them a headache? I dont see how typing anymore will stress how childish most of the replies to my posts have been, cannonofcourse out...

You need to calm down. Redpoint was right.
Sent from my Evita

Bottom line, you want perfect stability, Don't root.

cannonofcourse said:
The back key is for left hand people,
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I'm right handed and it really doesn't bother me. I can sympathize with having to get used to differences on devices. It always takes a while for me to get used to things.
cannonofcourse said:
No battery? What I mean to say is no extra battery. Ive always bought an extra battery so that if I don't have a plug-in or charger I got it covered.
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I find that external battery packs are way more convenient. You can pick up a 10,000 mah Anker pack for under $50 and it'll charge your phone several times. And it works for any other devices that you might have that charge via USB. And it will work on the next phone that you buy.
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Can someone give me any reason why the charge port is on the side?
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No idea. It does however work very well with the iBolt car dock. Quick and easy to put the phone in and lock it.
cannonofcourse said:
No SD storage... This is probably the main reason Im done with HTC. A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
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I found this out the hard way as well, but anything on my phone exists other places. I don't consider my phone to be a place to store unrecoverable files. My photos are automatically backed up to G+, contacts and email are on Google, anything else doesn't really matter.
cannonofcourse said:
Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
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That just sucks. I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
With all of that said, I really do think that people here are trying to help.

cannonofcourse said:
I would expect this kind of blasphemy if I posted a dumb video on YouTube, but the fact that this is a dev site full of "professionals".
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So if anybody disagrees with you, its "blasphemy"??? Nobody here is a professional. Professionals get paid. If you mean courteous and polite, I don't see any responses to the contrary. Yes, several of us have disagreed with you. But not in any way that can remotely be considered a flame, personal attack, etc.
I was simply pointing out a FACT that the factory reset from bootloader bug exists due to the phone being hacked. HTC could have not have predicted every way user-implemented mods could harm the phone. You have some legitimate criticisms of HTC and the phone. But the factory reset issue isn't one of them.
You asked for our thoughts. We gave them. Or maybe you just wanted to hear from people that agreed with you?

I'm done with HTC as well if motorola steps up its game with the X but frankly i'll support anyone except samsung. I just want to see android evolve to more than just 1 oem (samsung).
I don't hold the past against any oem. If i like the new phone, i'll buy it.

twistedddx said:
Then, antichamp:
pogo pin issues( I initially really wanted to use the pogo pins aswell just for the gimmick until I realized they only seem cool)
1)The pogo pins are used on the desk dock.
2)The USB port actually "locks" the phone in to the car dock, the car dock requires a locking mechanism unlike the desk dock.
3)The pogo pins would cause scratch marks along the back as the pins drag along the case as you slide the phone in and out of a car dock.
4)The pins on the dock would wear out because of #3
5)What is wrong with the USB port?
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There is no desk dock for this phone...
For the international version there is, regardless of it's mediocre reviews.
I recently discovered the unfortunate truth of your 2nd point (I'm trying to make my own car dock).
On three and four, wouldn't that indicate a poor design of the phone? (blame the user ala apple's "you're holding it wrong")
There's nothing wrong with the usb port, I just think it would be convienient to both charge the phone and get analog audio out without connecting both the usb and 3.5mm jack.
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I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
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Hmmm, bad sim slot you say?
If I don't leave my phone face down it loses service. I have to restart it upside down and shake it before it will come back.
Think I could have the same problem?

It's possible. Or it could just be the SIM carrier.
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Well....
fleabeard said:
I'm right handed and it really doesn't bother me. I can sympathize with having to get used to differences on devices. It always takes a while for me to get used to things.
I find that external battery packs are way more convenient. You can pick up a 10,000 mah Anker pack for under $50 and it'll charge your phone several times. And it works for any other devices that you might have that charge via USB. And it will work on the next phone that you buy.
Actually I bought one of the "power on the go" packs from radio shack and broke it apart, replaced the battery with a 3600mah I ordered for my evo on accident. It cost about 8 dollars (plus the cost of the extra battery 12 bucks I think) and it charges my phone incredibly fast and about 3 times before I have to charge it back.up. Nothing worse than hearing that beep noise when your trying to get something done.
No idea. It does however work very well with the iBolt car dock. Quick and easy to put the phone in and lock it.
I found this out the hard way as well, but anything on my phone exists other places. I don't consider my phone to be a place to store unrecoverable files. My photos are automatically backed up to G+, contacts and email are on Google, anything else doesn't really matter.
I do try to back up everything to the cloud, via Google drive or I have a media server but it always seems like the one thing I needed is gone forever. I just found out the hard way that a reset from the bootloader took out my whole phone. It just sucks not being able to pull the card out and hold it.
That just sucks. I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
It seems like a certain set of serial numbers are having a hardware issue. I hate to go without my phone to get it fixed but I guess thats what I have to do. Thats the price we pay to have it all wrapped up in one little cool device.
With all of that said, I really do think that people here are trying to help.
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I know there are plenty of people that do a fantastic superhuman job. Just hours of searching to find out if someone has or is working on a fix or if I can provide info to contribute seems like so many people just lashing out for no reason.. But maybe Im being defensive.
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Unfortunately I highly doubt the issues you've brought up can be "fixed".
But...
I'm pretty sure you can change the location of the back button on certain aosp ROMs though.
Using battery case should mitigate the need for a removable battery.
The fact that doing a factory reset from bootloader wipes your phone can't be changed, but a little research on here warns of that in numerous places. And I don't think that's necessarily HTC's fault. It's up to us to educate ourselves about the risks we face when altering our devices.
For instance: TWRP 2.6 has an advanced wipe feature which makes it very easy to wipe your sd card while wiping the usual system and caches. I did that myself just recently, accidentally checked the wrong box and wiped my sd. I lost everything. Without a backup. So many photos of my kids gone for good. But I don't blame TWRP for making it easy to do that. I blame myself for working too fast and not being careful enough.
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cannonofcourse said:
I know there are plenty of people that do a fantastic superhuman job. Just hours of searching to find out if someone has or is working on a fix or if I can provide info to contribute seems like so many people just lashing out for no reason.. But maybe Im being defensive.
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Did the factory reset thrrough bootloader cause your problems??
If so, all yous gotta do is plug yer phone right into your computer and let windows detect it. Once it finds it, it will send you a window that says something along the lines of having an error with the sd card, from there click the button that says fix errors, and your all set. This happened to me before and I couldnt play music, store or access anything, or use the camera. But now it works perfectly.
And as for the extra battery, the portable chargers provide more battery life with less money. It makes more sense to buy a portable charger even if we did have removable batteries. :good::good::good::good:

[Q] SK4G drains fast...Too fast. And SD card Module probably damaged

I need a bit of help concerning the SK4G sd card reader: This phone may take quite a few drops and scratches, but the SD reader doesn't seem able to. If i drop my phone just the right way, the sd card seems to malfunction and certain stuff crashes. The thing is, my sd card is just fine. Tested it multiple times. I can take it out, wait a few seconds, put it back and reboot til it works. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO MY PHONE? PS: I think some part of my phone that reads the battery is fried. I get rediculous battery drain, like 1 percent gone every minute. This isnt normal, is it? Any insght solutions or help would be appreciated.

RenaldiDroidXDA said:
I need a bit of help concerning the SK4G sd card reader: This phone may take quite a few drops and scratches, but the SD reader doesn't seem able to. If i drop my phone just the right way, the sd card seems to malfunction and certain stuff crashes. The thing is, my sd card is just fine. Tested it multiple times. I can take it out, wait a few seconds, put it back and reboot til it works. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO MY PHONE? PS: I think some part of my phone that reads the battery is fried. I get rediculous battery drain, like 1 percent gone every minute. This isnt normal, is it? Any insght solutions or help would be appreciated.
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No, it's not normal. How old is the battery on your phone? Is it bulging out at all anywhere? It could be in need of replacement. Also, which ROM are you using? Maybe something got corrupted or didn't load correctly? Fishing a bit...

I would be aware of the rom being used as already said. Try out a battery calibrating app.
As for the SD card, is it partitioned? If so maybe that could be affecting it oddly. Just some ideas, hopefully it isn't hardware /:
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I've seen this effect on stock and on every other rom I've tried. The Sidekick was a gift from an uncle, so I'm not sure what he did to it....nevertheless, the battery is reported by most battery apps as "good". The battery is not bulging, and it charges. I'm guessing its hardware; I just hope I can afford to fix it.
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Zydrate_blue said:
I would be aware of the rom being used as already said. Try out a battery calibrating app.
As for the SD card, is it partitioned? If so maybe that could be affecting it oddly. Just some ideas, hopefully it isn't hardware /:
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ged92781 said:
No, it's not normal. How old is the battery on your phone? Is it bulging out at all anywhere? It could be in need of replacement. Also, which ROM are you using? Maybe something got corrupted or didn't load correctly? Fishing a bit...
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Nope sd card not partitioned, rom seems fully loaded, its GloriousOverdosev5 although I do have some issues with it not related to battery.
Is there anyone here on this forum who could make sense of the inner circuitry of my phone and see if there is something wrong here? I could take my phone apart (maybe).
This phone is so difficult!
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I just thought of something. How exactly are you dropping the phone? XD I mean, it wasn't meant to be dropped. Hell, I think I have dropped this maybe once since I got it, it's staying strong
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Zydrate_blue said:
I just thought of something. How exactly are you dropping the phone? XD I mean, it wasn't meant to be dropped. Hell, I think I have dropped this maybe once since I got it, it's staying strong
Sent from my AOSP GingerCloned Sidekick 4G (awaiting full GB ;D)
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Only 2-3 times like straight down, sideways, it never landed on the sd card side, just the usb side. It seemed fine at the time..that reminds me, it seems to not play nice with non micro usb based/samsung chargers; refuses to charge
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For such crappy software it has a surprising good ability to take a hit or two...except maybe for the sd module, I don't know why it refuses to work properly
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RenaldiDroidXDA said:
Only 2-3 times like straight down, sideways, it never landed on the sd card side, just the usb side. It seemed fine at the time..that reminds me, it seems to not play nice with non micro usb based/samsung chargers; refuses to charge
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That's one of the biggest issues with every single device in the Sidekick series of phones. When it comes to chargers they have always been "finicky". I'm pretty sure it has to do with wattage, but it's a problem that has stayed consistant.
And I guess that's not so bad, maybe it really is something in it's circuitry. I wish I could be more help my friend. /=
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Aw well zydrate, might not need to deal with it too much longer. I might get an s4 or note 2 for 329, I just need to choose which one I want...what do you think?
And anyway, we're almost getting that real gingerbread so maybe I can deal with this crappy sidekick's quirks a little while longer
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RenaldiDroidXDA said:
Aw well zydrate, might not need to deal with it too much longer. I might get an s4 or note 2 for 329, I just need to choose which one I want...what do you think?
And anyway, we're almost getting that real gingerbread so maybe I can deal with this crappy sidekick's quirks a little while longer
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True-true I personally would jump for the s4. I like the idea of a waterproof phone, because lets face it, we may not all send our devices toilet-bound but rain and spills are just things that happen. Heck I'd test it myself xD I'm curious exactly what extent this can be used in water...(underwater? ;D) But yeah, I would definitely take the s4

Whoa! The s4 is waterproof?
I suppose it could be battery messing with things, maybe I could carry a spare and avoid dropping this
If sidekicks will continue, tmo had better learn from thier mistakes or this will be like the 4g
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RenaldiDroidXDA said:
Whoa! The s4 is waterproof?
I suppose it could be battery messing with things, maybe I could carry a spare and avoid dropping this
If sidekicks will continue, tmo had better learn from thier mistakes or this will be like the 4g
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I double checked and I guess the S4 Active is a different strain of the S4.... so honestly I'm confused but google it xD as far as I have seen on commercials I really think that is awesome I want one now lol.
EDIT-- Sorry to be a killjoy but I just watched this and it was disappointing. :/
--> http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s4-active/4505-6452_7-35783536.html

Yesterday I yanked out my battery because of a critical crash after binge web browsing - the battery was at 34 percent but after rebooting it was at less than 10!
This morning I tried to balance my phone on a perch 4 ft off the ground and it fell. Stright on its back. Next thing I know, its crash-booting and I have to yank out, put batt back in turn on and hope SD comes back on. Now I turn it on and SD was working until i accidentally just unplugg it and it booted into charge mode and batt has 1 percent, even though I know its supposed to have like TWENTY percent.
Any way, I have it in charge mode at like 1 percent and I'm trying to turn it back on by accident just well turn it right back to charge mode (you know what I mean right)
and when it starts charging again the battery level is 20 percent. TWENTY!!!!!!!! UGH I CANT STAND THIS THING GOD GIVE ME PATIENCE TIL I GET GINGERBREAD
Sent from a sidekick in dire need of magic jellybeans (or tasty gingerbread either will work :/)

Issues with my Note 7.....

So let me say I love the note series and have owned all but the 1 and the 5 (no expandable memory or removable battery, sounded like an iphone to me) i even still have my Note Edge (often forgotten about in the line up)
And cant really see going to anything else but not really sure what the future holds for the Note.
Well im on my second note even though i had zero issue with my first note but i decided to play it safe and swap it out for the safe unit.
Since i have done this im starting to have some issues with my safe unit and figured id share my experiences with you guys.
The first issue was and is i occasionally get the moisture detected in charging port notification when i plug my phone in to charge it. The phone has never been in or near water not even in the bathroom during a shower so its strange. Also when this notification pops up the phone wont charge via port but you can still charge it wirelessly.
The latest issue is that ive gotten a irregular charging detected notification and with this one it charges and stops charges and stops constantly like a loose connections or when your cable is frayed and you have to position it just right.....lol
Now if you go into the setting and turn off the fast charge this issue goes away, matter of fact both issues go away. Im wondering if these issues plagued the ones that went poof.
Is anyone else having any similar issues with their Notes?
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bignibb said:
So let me say I love the note series and have owned all but the 1 and the 5 (no expandable memory or removable battery, sounded like an iphone to me) i even still have my Note Edge (often forgotten about in the line up)
And cant really see going to anything else but not really sure what the future holds for the Note.
Well im on my second note even though i had zero issue with my first note but i decided to play it safe and swap it out for the safe unit.
Since i have done this im starting to have some issues with my safe unit and figured id share my experiences with you guys.
The first issue was and is i occasionally get the moisture detected in charging port notification when i plug my phone in to charge it. The phone has never been in or near water not even in the bathroom during a shower so its strange. Also when this notification pops up the phone wont charge via port but you can still charge it wirelessly.
The latest issue is that ive gotten a irregular charging detected notification and with this one it charges and stops charges and stops constantly like a loose connections or when your cable is frayed and you have to position it just right.....lol
Now if you go into the setting and turn off the fast charge this issue goes away, matter of fact both issues go away. Im wondering if these issues plagued the ones that went poof.
Is anyone else having any similar issues with their Notes?
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No issues like that here. Neither on the first note 7 I had and this revised replacement.

Just as a side note im running the latest software updates as well so no rooting or other mods
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bignibb said:
Just as a side note im running the latest software updates as well so no rooting or other mods
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Same here. On PHE too, no root or mods. Wish PHE was rootable though.

I saw a youtube video about the note 7 exploding under stress tests. And before one of them exploded, the notifications that you explained started happening. Couldnt charge the phone anymore. Wonder if its a charging software glitch that is causing the problem.

Im keeping an eye on it but so far so good. Everything is working like it should mot even any notifications today.
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