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Okay. Ignore the title, I couldn't think of anything to put. In short, I want to know about roms, about clockworkmod, cyanogen mod, and stuff like that. What they do, how to put them on, and I pretty much wanna know about the general stuff you do past rooting your phone. And I know that the section says No Noobs, but technically, I'm a newb, as far as I know i'm not annoying anyone or being completely nooblike.
Mainly with cyanogen. I read the instructions, and they seem too, I dont know, simplistic. I'd prefer exact details. Like, after I have clockwork mod installed, and I flash cyanogen, can i restore all the stuff I had on it? And once cyanogen is on there, is it already rooted, or must i root again? And if someone would explain to me how clockworkmod works in the first place. And how would I flash cyanogen? I thought it'd be through clockworkmod, but if I wipe everything and factory reset, wouldn't clockworkmod be gone?
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant or not vibrant, I dont even know) It's a GT-i9000M. Running android 2.2.1, Rooted, I have clockworkmod installed, but still no idea what to do past that point. Also, my Kies isn't telling me about any 3.x upgrade, so how would i go about manually installing a new version of android? I know it has to do with Odin, but whenever i tried i ended up not doing anything.
And one last thing about MetaMorph. Where could i find themes for it? And do i need to have a certain Rom running in order to use metamorph themes?
I'm mainly used to iPhones and such, where there isnt really much to do besides jailbreaking and such, and moving on to android phones is pretty intense. XD So much more to do with Android phones.
Well uh, thats about all i can think of at the moment. Also please post anything you feel that a (somewhat) newb to android modding should know.
Sorry for all the questions, and to those that help me, I love you. <3
And if any moderators deem this thread as against the 'No Noobs' rule, at least send me a message telling me you deleted it, or else I'll end up looking endlessly through the forums for my thread. I've done that before, not fun. LOL (Couldn't find a 'My Threads' thingy on the forum i was using.
Gutana said:
Okay. Ignore the title, I couldn't think of anything to put. In short, I want to know about roms, about clockworkmod, cyanogen mod, and stuff like that. What they do, how to put them on, and I pretty much wanna know about the general stuff you do past rooting your phone. And I know that the section says No Noobs, but technically, I'm a newb, as far as I know i'm not annoying anyone or being completely nooblike.
Mainly with cyanogen. I read the instructions, and they seem too, I dont know, simplistic. I'd prefer exact details. Like, after I have clockwork mod installed, and I flash cyanogen, can i restore all the stuff I had on it? And once cyanogen is on there, is it already rooted, or must i root again? And if someone would explain to me how clockworkmod works in the first place. And how would I flash cyanogen? I thought it'd be through clockworkmod, but if I wipe everything and factory reset, wouldn't clockworkmod be gone?
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant or not vibrant, I dont even know) It's a GT-i9000M. Running android 2.2.1, Rooted, I have clockworkmod installed, but still no idea what to do past that point. Also, my Kies isn't telling me about any 3.x upgrade, so how would i go about manually installing a new version of android? I know it has to do with Odin, but whenever i tried i ended up not doing anything.
And one last thing about MetaMorph. Where could i find themes for it? And do i need to have a certain Rom running in order to use metamorph themes?
I'm mainly used to iPhones and such, where there isnt really much to do besides jailbreaking and such, and moving on to android phones is pretty intense. XD So much more to do with Android phones.
Well uh, thats about all i can think of at the moment. Also please post anything you feel that a (somewhat) newb to android modding should know.
Sorry for all the questions, and to those that help me, I love you. <3
And if any moderators deem this thread as against the 'No Noobs' rule, at least send me a message telling me you deleted it, or else I'll end up looking endlessly through the forums for my thread. I've done that before, not fun. LOL (Couldn't find a 'My Threads' thingy on the forum i was using.
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Well, I guess to first start off, here's a few pointers:
1. don't put the title in 1337 (people will most likely not click on it, thus no help)
2. you're right about this being the wrong thread. You should post this under the Samsung Galaxy S section (google your model number and you'll see it instantly) and should probably try the Q&A moreso than a general area (but it doesn't really matter all too much)
3. no matter how nooblike you may or may not be, you're still a noob XD
Now that we've gotten past the anally parts and all (hate doing that, but gotta =P), let's talk about what you came here for: answers.
Let's start with some definitions:
ROMs - these are the (usually modded) softwares that you flash to your phone. Depending on which phone you have, you can only flash ROMs made for your phone. Of course, if you have root/custom recovery, you can also install custom ROMs.
ClockWorkMod (CWM) is a recovery system made in order to allow people more features while they're in recovery mode. Of course, this is one of a few out there, but people stick to CWM cause of its huge support plus it's popularity. When you think of CWM, think of custom features being installed in (almost) one step (modding files and such will be taken care of for you, so you don't have to do it yourself). You can usually also fix a bricked system this way by reflashing either the entire ROM or the boot.img/other files (we'll get to this in a second)
CyanogenMod (CM) is an example of a very popular custom rom. They have a great team and usually is available for most devices, which in turn makes them so popular. It is widely supported and has a lot of extra features like updating to the latest OS and features not previously available on your phone. It's skinned, but usually follows the stock Android look for the OS in which they've skinned.
lol The reason why the instructions look so simple is because they've taken out all the hard work and all the stuff where you can possibly screw up your phone, so that they don't get a million messages saying "OMG MY PHONE BRICKED WHAT HAPPENED" and stuff like that. Protects them, makes it easier for you. If you had made a backup before you flashed CM (usually you only have to back up whats on the phone if it has internal and external memory, but back up your sd card always just in case. never hurt to), then yes. If you backed it up with your previous ROM, then you'll probably need to revert to get it back. If you didn't, chances are whatever you didn't backup and didn't sync, is safe to say gone. You can try recovering it using a recovery software on the computer like i detailed here for another person, but of course you'd skip the whole trying to save the phone part and just start with mounting the phone to your computer and running the software.
CM is a custom rom, and so most (if not all) custom roms have root preinstalled (besides, who wouldn't want root?!) As for CWM, it works by being (usually) flashed into the recovery partition of your phone. The nice thing about the phone is that it's split up into parts: boot, recovery, system, and some other ones i can't think of off the top of my head. Those three are important, as if you get a softbrick, you might still be able to recover all your data simply by using CWM/fastboot (a dev-tool used to flash/unlock, but only available in certain phones, as it is disabled usually) to reflash the boot.img (one requires command line, whereas CWM only needs you to flash a created/pre-made package). Also, since they're in separate partitions, even if your system and boot.img doesn't work, you can probably still access recovery (unless you screwed up really REALLY bad, and in that case I can't help >.<)
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
At this point, I would look into a few things. One is skinning your phone (though you probably can't do too much if you don't want to touch system files). If you find a psuedo-rom (slightly modded) that themes it, that's your best bet. Another is gaining access to certain features in apps you didn't have before (i.e. androidLost, LBE Privacy Guard, titanium backup) and of course more control by the ability to control your system files (if you know what you're doing, of course). Lastly, you can use stuff like MetaMorph to theme out certain sections of your rom (provided that they give you one compatible with your phone model/rom), minus having to flash it and having more fine-tuned controlled. Usually, Metamorph will run on all ROMs, but it doesn't guarantee that there'll be stuff for every ROM. Also, want themes? google it (google is your best friend!)
Kies won't tell you that you have an upgrade because it is ROM-dependent. It looks for their official ROM and says "Hey, this guy has our ROM. Check for an update". Think of owning a custom rom like being kicked out of your family. You won't get anymore updates from them XD. However, if you're looking to get the latest updates, check out the Samsung Galaxy S Dev threads. They will usually have another method of loading in the new ROM into your phone. And if you want to stick with ROM Manager, shell out for premium and they'll include "Check for Updates" in ROM Manager, along with several other functions (though you can check for free via computer/browser ). Mostly, manually updating the software requires the "Install from SD Card" feature in CWM/other recoveries, so you don't have much to worry about.
Odin is, as you stated, most likely your best bet. Not too many people repackage official ROMs into easy-to-flash zips. Odin is the Samsung equivalent to Motorola's RSD Lite from what I googled (i have motorola, so no exp. on odin >.<) It's mostly like a dev tool allowing you to flash/re-flash phones and is also usually your one-way ticket out of a semi/full brick (assuming you didn't mess up the hardware and you can get into download mode). It's the flashing tool that can access the core system of the phone even without root and allows you to reflash OFFICIAL ROMs. Should you use Odin (should be your last resort), you WILL lose root and all your data. No questions asked. Its like reinstalling everything to the state in which you got it in when you bought the phone. Word of advice: BACK UP OFTEN! (did i forget to mention Titanium Backup? )
Yeah, the transition from Apple to Android is so different and had I not had experience with my PSP, i'd be dying with the information overload. However, just read a lot of stuff on the forums (*cough*general android forums*cough*) and you should be just fine. We have an excellent community here that will try our best to fix whatever problems you encounter (note the key word: try. we're not gods XD) You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
Oh, well, I don't want to keep you for much longer, but since you mentioned something that any noob should know, it's definitely ADB (Android Debugging Bridge). This is where you'll probably spend a lot of time, as people's fixes usually involve shell (terminal for your phone). If anything, get acquainted with it, as it might save your butt in the future/unlock a few extra features for you ;D .
Well, that's all i can think of, and honestly, after typing this thing up for about an hour now, I think I'm going to grab me some breakfast Good luck to you and welcome to the Android commmunity! (and next time, remember to post in the right place! XD)
~jojojohnson7410
P.S. PM me if you need anything. =]
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
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Just to nit-pick a bit. CWM is part of the recovery partition, and unless the Galaxy S is different from every other android device, flashing will not remove it. ROM Manager and CWM are two different things. ROM manager will allow you to download the roms, which will then instruct CWM to flash the rom (when it reboots).
jojojohnson7410 said:
Well, I guess to first start off, here's a few pointers:
1. don't put the title in 1337 (people will most likely not click on it, thus no help)
2. you're right about this being the wrong thread. You should post this under the Samsung Galaxy S section (google your model number and you'll see it instantly) and should probably try the Q&A moreso than a general area (but it doesn't really matter all too much)
3. no matter how nooblike you may or may not be, you're still a noob XD
Now that we've gotten past the anally parts and all (hate doing that, but gotta =P), let's talk about what you came here for: answers.
Let's start with some definitions:
ROMs - these are the (usually modded) softwares that you flash to your phone. Depending on which phone you have, you can only flash ROMs made for your phone. Of course, if you have root/custom recovery, you can also install custom ROMs.
ClockWorkMod (CWM) is a recovery system made in order to allow people more features while they're in recovery mode. Of course, this is one of a few out there, but people stick to CWM cause of its huge support plus it's popularity. When you think of CWM, think of custom features being installed in (almost) one step (modding files and such will be taken care of for you, so you don't have to do it yourself). You can usually also fix a bricked system this way by reflashing either the entire ROM or the boot.img/other files (we'll get to this in a second)
CyanogenMod (CM) is an example of a very popular custom rom. They have a great team and usually is available for most devices, which in turn makes them so popular. It is widely supported and has a lot of extra features like updating to the latest OS and features not previously available on your phone. It's skinned, but usually follows the stock Android look for the OS in which they've skinned.
lol The reason why the instructions look so simple is because they've taken out all the hard work and all the stuff where you can possibly screw up your phone, so that they don't get a million messages saying "OMG MY PHONE BRICKED WHAT HAPPENED" and stuff like that. Protects them, makes it easier for you. If you had made a backup before you flashed CM (usually you only have to back up whats on the phone if it has internal and external memory, but back up your sd card always just in case. never hurt to), then yes. If you backed it up with your previous ROM, then you'll probably need to revert to get it back. If you didn't, chances are whatever you didn't backup and didn't sync, is safe to say gone. You can try recovering it using a recovery software on the computer like i detailed here for another person, but of course you'd skip the whole trying to save the phone part and just start with mounting the phone to your computer and running the software.
CM is a custom rom, and so most (if not all) custom roms have root preinstalled (besides, who wouldn't want root?!) As for CWM, it works by being (usually) flashed into the recovery partition of your phone. The nice thing about the phone is that it's split up into parts: boot, recovery, system, and some other ones i can't think of off the top of my head. Those three are important, as if you get a softbrick, you might still be able to recover all your data simply by using CWM/fastboot (a dev-tool used to flash/unlock, but only available in certain phones, as it is disabled usually) to reflash the boot.img (one requires command line, whereas CWM only needs you to flash a created/pre-made package). Also, since they're in separate partitions, even if your system and boot.img doesn't work, you can probably still access recovery (unless you screwed up really REALLY bad, and in that case I can't help >.<)
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
At this point, I would look into a few things. One is skinning your phone (though you probably can't do too much if you don't want to touch system files). If you find a psuedo-rom (slightly modded) that themes it, that's your best bet. Another is gaining access to certain features in apps you didn't have before (i.e. androidLost, LBE Privacy Guard, titanium backup) and of course more control by the ability to control your system files (if you know what you're doing, of course). Lastly, you can use stuff like MetaMorph to theme out certain sections of your rom (provided that they give you one compatible with your phone model/rom), minus having to flash it and having more fine-tuned controlled. Usually, Metamorph will run on all ROMs, but it doesn't guarantee that there'll be stuff for every ROM. Also, want themes? google it (google is your best friend!)
Kies won't tell you that you have an upgrade because it is ROM-dependent. It looks for their official ROM and says "Hey, this guy has our ROM. Check for an update". Think of owning a custom rom like being kicked out of your family. You won't get anymore updates from them XD. However, if you're looking to get the latest updates, check out the Samsung Galaxy S Dev threads. They will usually have another method of loading in the new ROM into your phone. And if you want to stick with ROM Manager, shell out for premium and they'll include "Check for Updates" in ROM Manager, along with several other functions (though you can check for free via computer/browser ). Mostly, manually updating the software requires the "Install from SD Card" feature in CWM/other recoveries, so you don't have much to worry about.
Odin is, as you stated, most likely your best bet. Not too many people repackage official ROMs into easy-to-flash zips. Odin is the Samsung equivalent to Motorola's RSD Lite from what I googled (i have motorola, so no exp. on odin >.<) It's mostly like a dev tool allowing you to flash/re-flash phones and is also usually your one-way ticket out of a semi/full brick (assuming you didn't mess up the hardware and you can get into download mode). It's the flashing tool that can access the core system of the phone even without root and allows you to reflash OFFICIAL ROMs. Should you use Odin (should be your last resort), you WILL lose root and all your data. No questions asked. Its like reinstalling everything to the state in which you got it in when you bought the phone. Word of advice: BACK UP OFTEN! (did i forget to mention Titanium Backup? )
Yeah, the transition from Apple to Android is so different and had I not had experience with my PSP, i'd be dying with the information overload. However, just read a lot of stuff on the forums (*cough*general android forums*cough*) and you should be just fine. We have an excellent community here that will try our best to fix whatever problems you encounter (note the key word: try. we're not gods XD) You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
Oh, well, I don't want to keep you for much longer, but since you mentioned something that any noob should know, it's definitely ADB (Android Debugging Bridge). This is where you'll probably spend a lot of time, as people's fixes usually involve shell (terminal for your phone). If anything, get acquainted with it, as it might save your butt in the future/unlock a few extra features for you ;D .
Well, that's all i can think of, and honestly, after typing this thing up for about an hour now, I think I'm going to grab me some breakfast Good luck to you and welcome to the Android commmunity! (and next time, remember to post in the right place! XD)
~jojojohnson7410
P.S. PM me if you need anything. =]
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Wow, thanks a lot. I still have a question or two, bear with me.
Well for one, is flashing roms made for different firmwares alright, or no? Since I have 2.2, and im assuming the latest cyanogen is made for 3.x, would I have to upgrade my firmware to the corresponding firmware.
And about Clockwork, if my phone bricks, I'd have to restore using odin, right? But if the phone still works, i can just root and cwm and restore it using rom manager?
And uh, I'm not sure if this is a problem or im just doing something wrong, but in RomManager, i click Backup Current ROM, and it goes into recovery mode, and theres no new options, there's just like, format, factory reset, clear cache, reboot, but nothing involving rom manager. And when i check for the recovery file in my sd card, it's not. Wut do.
WoZZeR999 said:
Just to nit-pick a bit. CWM is part of the recovery partition, and unless the Galaxy S is different from every other android device, flashing will not remove it. ROM Manager and CWM are two different things. ROM manager will allow you to download the roms, which will then instruct CWM to flash the rom (when it reboots).
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lol true true that would be my mistake. XD Nice catch
~jojojohnson7410
Gutana said:
Wow, thanks a lot. I still have a question or two, bear with me.
Well for one, is flashing roms made for different firmwares alright, or no? Since I have 2.2, and im assuming the latest cyanogen is made for 3.x, would I have to upgrade my firmware to the corresponding firmware.
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No, you wouldn't have to upgrade to the latest firmware to get the ROM installed. So long as the ROM is confirmed to work for your device, you can flash any ROM you want (which is convenient in my case since I have an Atrix 4G and it was oh-so-lonely without some Gingerbread XD)
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And about Clockwork, if my phone bricks, I'd have to restore using odin, right? But if the phone still works, i can just root and cwm and restore it using rom manager?
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Well, the thing is, you really only need that usually if you're on a stock rom or some official version and either you want to flash a new stock ROM from Samsung or you want to pull your phone out of a brick. Most of the time, however, even if you bricked it, so long as you can get into the recovery menu, you'll be alright. Just re-flash the ROM that you want (or in my case yesterday when I was dealing with an Inspire, I had to use a different ROM to unbrick the phone. I don't know why this happen, but it was being nit-picky >.<)
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And uh, I'm not sure if this is a problem or im just doing something wrong, but in RomManager, i click Backup Current ROM, and it goes into recovery mode, and theres no new options, there's just like, format, factory reset, clear cache, reboot, but nothing involving rom manager. And when i check for the recovery file in my sd card, it's not. Wut do.
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lol nooo this is not a problem at all. See, like the guy above me posted, the Recovery Menu is completely separate from anything in the ROM. It's located in the recovery partition rather than the system and the boot partitions, so they usually don't touch the recovery. ROM Manager is just a means of providing GUI to CWM so then you can either flash the CWM to your phone or help download ROMS into your SD card. Stuff like backup and everything needs you to boot into recovery as you can't be backing up the system while your system is mounted on, so they send you to CWM. From there, there's an option called "backup and restore". In this place, you can choose where to save the backup. And since the backup is made by CWM, it will be recognized by CWM if you want to restore it. I think it saves it in a zip file, but im not 100% positive, so take that one with a grain of salt.
Hope this answers the questions! Let me know if you need more help (or just PM me. I check that regularly )
~jojojohnson7410
jojojohnson7410 said:
No, you wouldn't have to upgrade to the latest firmware to get the ROM installed. So long as the ROM is confirmed to work for your device, you can flash any ROM you want (which is convenient in my case since I have an Atrix 4G and it was oh-so-lonely without some Gingerbread XD)
Well, the thing is, you really only need that usually if you're on a stock rom or some official version and either you want to flash a new stock ROM from Samsung or you want to pull your phone out of a brick. Most of the time, however, even if you bricked it, so long as you can get into the recovery menu, you'll be alright. Just re-flash the ROM that you want (or in my case yesterday when I was dealing with an Inspire, I had to use a different ROM to unbrick the phone. I don't know why this happen, but it was being nit-picky >.<)
lol nooo this is not a problem at all. See, like the guy above me posted, the Recovery Menu is completely separate from anything in the ROM. It's located in the recovery partition rather than the system and the boot partitions, so they usually don't touch the recovery. ROM Manager is just a means of providing GUI to CWM so then you can either flash the CWM to your phone or help download ROMS into your SD card. Stuff like backup and everything needs you to boot into recovery as you can't be backing up the system while your system is mounted on, so they send you to CWM. From there, there's an option called "backup and restore". In this place, you can choose where to save the backup. And since the backup is made by CWM, it will be recognized by CWM if you want to restore it. I think it saves it in a zip file, but im not 100% positive, so take that one with a grain of salt.
Hope this answers the questions! Let me know if you need more help (or just PM me. I check that regularly )
~jojojohnson7410
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But theres no backup and restore options, its jut the recovery options you'd get if you were on a brand new phone.
Hello guys,
a few days ago I dared to root my Xperia X10 Mini Pro with SuperOneClick and flashed a Cyanogenmod 7 Android 2.3.3 ROM. All in all, it worked pretty well.
After doing some apps installation stuff I rebooted in the Recovery (Clockworkmod which obviously came along with the ROM) and made a backup, just for the case. Afterwards, I selected "power off" in the CWM menu because I wanted to go to bed.
Then, immediately, CWM said something like "Error - This recovery seems to be bad" and something with a "risk". I managed however to power off. Can't remember if that worked via CWM or if I pushed the power off hardbutton or removed the battery.
Yet - the ROM seems to work. Now I'm a bit anxious because of the CWM error.
Is there really a risk? I planned to dare unlocking the bootloader soon. Is it dangerous to do this with a "bad recovery" or doesn't that matter at all?
Is there a possibility to repair CWM? Can I just install a new CWM? If yes - how?
Sorry - pretty noobish questions, I know.
Can you help me anyway?
Thanks a lot!
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Thank you for your help! I already thought that no one would answer because the thread disappered on page 3 of this forum
I've never heard from Odin before and therefore googled it. It only occured in connection with Samsung devices. Are you sure it is compatible to my Sony Ericsson?
Anyway, can I also install a new CWM via ROM Manager or wouldn't you recommend this?
Warning: I'm a noob. Take my advice at your own risk!
From what I understand, flashing CWM via Rom Manager is exactly the same as manual flashing (perhaps better, since the Rom Manager presumably keeps up to date). So I think you should be able to do so and make another recovery (without going through any of that manual flashing stuff). You should get a second opinion just because I'm so noobish, but I think this is the case.
However, from my limited understanding, I don't think the recovery will make any difference when dealing with the bootloader. The bootloader is, more or less, the very first set of instructions executed when the phone turns on. If you mess that up, your phone won't even be able to get into recovery mode. Also, the recovery images are stored on your sd card, which is wiped upon unlocking. Once again, I could be wrong.
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Dude, what are you talking about? You can't use ODIN on a non-Samsung phone.
trich025 said:
don't use rom manager just use the odin for your safety, you can bet that samsung users are the one benefiting on odin but as you can see erricson and samsung are both android phones and if you examine them both device have similar programs, and one thing, always keep in mind that you have to back up your current rom for emergency uses so you can still get back to were you started in case something went wrong.
if i helped you with this problem you could click the thanks button >>>>
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OK now this is flat out wrong. Each Android device has a different program used. Samsung has Odin, HTC has an RUU. Not sure about SE. But never use a software made for one device on another unless you want a brick. Just because they both use android doesn't mean they are the same.
Thanks to everyone, especially Product F(RED)!
No offence, trich025, but I guess you were wrong.
Can I destroy something by re-installing or updating CWM via ROM-Manager just in case my CWM has a bug?
So I know there's been some controversy and scares going around about the US version, since it JUST came out. I'm here to calm you guys down. I have now rooted mine, flashed an interim CWM touch version (not permanent) and have flashed a ROM......ALL successfully.
Here's what I did:
UNLOCKING:
Unlock your bootloader by registering at HTCdev.com and following the unlock instructions. Under device, choose "All other devices", as the One S is not yet listed. It'll walk you through getting your unlock token and flashing it.
ROOTING
Follow Paul O Brien's instructions on rooting your phone. I flashed the r3 superboot file he had. The first time it didnt take and just booted the phone back up. Second time it took, and seems to have stuck, at least for apps. Please note that my phone says *TAMPERED* along with the *UNLOCKED* notification. I have no idea what that means exactly, but everything works great for me.
This means if you dont want to leave Sense but want to get the tons of useless and annoying T-Mobile and other bloatware apps out, you can. T-Mo are dicks and make almost 100% of the apps on it by default SYSTEM apps, therefore unremovable. So you'll need root and Titanium Backup to freeze or delete them. I'd recommend freezing the non-TMo one's just in case.
FLASHING ROMS
1. Flash Paul O Brien's intermin CWM touch version. You MUST use this interim CWM version for the moment, as the others do not work properly. Some things like USB mount dont work in this interim version, but the important functions like wipe and flash, backup and restore, and restart do work. The CWM recovery seems permanent, based on my initial trials, so no worries about reflashing it each restart.
2. Flash your ROM of choice from Clockworkmod Recovery. I'm using Black Dragon right now, but there are others out there as well. I'm personally looking forward to CM9, but its a little ways away, usability-wise.
So there you have it, all you US guys. Don't be afraid to mod your phone. Remember all the warranty void disclaimers as always. I'm not responsible for you bricking your phone. This is just my experience in just under 24hrs of use. Things are looking good for the One S.
bump... i see US users still asking.
Mods, can we perhaps sticky this post of mine? I don't want to take credit for the actual methods of rooting, since Paul O Brien and others deserve that credit, but I think it'd be helpful for US users, since many don't know whether or not the international method works.
That, or perhaps editing the Intl guides to make it clear that the US version accepts the same methods and ROMs.
Worked great for me
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So if we root and flash a custom ROM is there any way to get the phone back to factory state, and get rid of the *TAMPERED* and *UNLOCKED* notification??
Did anyone else get a bit of a sad chuckle out of the first step in the instructions being "remove and reinsert battery"?
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Did anyone else get a bit of a sad chuckle out of the first step in the instructions being "remove and reinsert battery"?
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Great, now my blisters on my fingers will heal.
But still.... I cannot imagine not needing a batt pull.
nickmv said:
Mods, can we perhaps sticky this post of mine? I don't want to take credit for the actual methods of rooting, since Paul O Brien and others deserve that credit, but I think it'd be helpful for US users, since many don't know whether or not the international method works.
That, or perhaps editing the Intl guides to make it clear that the US version accepts the same methods and ROMs.
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androidcues said:
Great, now my blisters on my fingers will heal.
But still.... I cannot imagine not needing a batt pull.
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If you need to perform a hard reset on the One S, you hold down the power button for about 7-10 secs.
First of all, thanks for this thread...I used the HTC One S All in one tool kit to unlock my phone, unfortunately I miss understood one of the directions(#5) and stopped using the tool kit and followed another thread, much to my surprise, my bootloader is unlocked, hooray My question is, how do I get back to the original state if that is possible? The reason I ask, is I would like to go back and do it correctly...I used better terminal emulator to see if I had root, but all I got was the $ sign instead of the # sign So I would like to start over...
Thanks in advance for the help
I'm honestly not sure what the procedure is for relocking an HTC bootloader. Perhaps do some Google research on some of the latest models, and I bet you'll find something.
That being said, once you unlock the bootloader a single time, the best you can do is go to **RELOCKED** state. You'll never get back **LOCKED**. Once it's gone it's gone. I'm curious about the **TAMPERED** message though. That's an ugly word.
not sure what exactly went wrong.
somehow flashed CWM and now thats the only thing my phone will boot to, even after re-flashing the stock recovery.
can't get the phone to turn on, only CWM every single time.
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not sure what exactly went wrong.
somehow flashed CWM and now thats the only thing my phone will boot to, even after re-flashing the stock recovery.
can't get the phone to turn on, only CWM every single time.
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Uh oh that doesn't sound good
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yeah, tried reflashing both CWM & stock recovery. phone still boots to CWM everytime.
Luckily i can still access the phone via ADB, (while in recovery) so i'm sure i'll be able to sort it out. just need to take a fresh crack at it tomorrow. gonna switch back to my galaxy nexus tonight. (oh wait, i dont have any other phones that use microsim)
haha.
Hmm, interesting. Did you flash the interim recovery that Paul O Brien posted, and not another version? Just wanna make sure. I've heard of this happening in my past experience with the Nexus S, but I can't recall what the deal was. Regardless, I don't think you're in trouble. As with your GNex, it's very hard to completely brick the device unless you flash perhaps a bad hboot file, however I'm not really familiar with HTC devices.
This is my first HTC so I'm still trying to learn how the hboot and other processes work together. Sry to hear you had bad luck.
UPDATE: You should try the root install script. It tells the phone to boot after install. That might get you booted atleast.
Some thoughts:
1. Flash the stock recovery back and reflash CWM
2. Clear cache and dalvik within CWM, and make sure to use the 'Reboot System' option if you aren't already.
From what I can tell, your "boot-to-recovery" flag is set on the phone, and isn't getting cleared.
nickmv said:
So I know there's been some controversy and scares going around about the US version, since it JUST came out. I'm here to calm you guys down. I have now rooted mine, flashed an interim CWM touch version (not permanent) and have flashed a ROM......ALL successfully.
Here's what I did:
UNLOCKING:
Unlock your bootloader by registering at HTCdev.com and following the unlock instructions. Under device, choose "All other devices", as the One S is not yet listed. It'll walk you through getting your unlock token and flashing it.
ROOTING
Follow Paul O Brien's instructions on rooting your phone. I flashed the r3 superboot file he had. The first time it didnt take and just booted the phone back up. Second time it took, and seems to have stuck, at least for apps. Please note that my phone says *TAMPERED* along with the *UNLOCKED* notification. I have no idea what that means exactly, but everything works great for me.
This means if you dont want to leave Sense but want to get the tons of useless and annoying T-Mobile and other bloatware apps out, you can. T-Mo are dicks and make almost 100% of the apps on it by default SYSTEM apps, therefore unremovable. So you'll need root and Titanium Backup to freeze or delete them. I'd recommend freezing the non-TMo one's just in case.
FLASHING ROMS
1. Flash Paul O Brien's intermin CWM touch version. Some things like USB mount dont work, but the important functions like wipe and flash and restart do. The CWM recovery seems permanent, based on my initial trials, so no worries about reflashing it each restart. I cant speak for the non-interim solutions, but from what I can gather, they are problematic, so avoid them for now.
2. Flash your ROM of choice from Clockworkmod Recovery. I'm using Black Dragon right now, but there are others out there as well. I'm personally looking forward to CM9, but its a little ways away, usability-wise.
So there you have it, all you US guys. Don't be afraid to mod your phone. Remember all the warranty void disclaimers as always. I'm not responsible for you bricking your phone. This is just my experience in just under 24hrs of use. Things are looking good for the One S.
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Is this part a must? Would you mind PM'ing me with how to do this part if it's a must? I have Unlocked and rooted my phone, just waiting for a good ROM to come by.
Thongvilay said:
Is this part a must? Would you mind PM'ing me with how to do this part if it's a must? I have Unlocked and rooted my phone, just waiting for a good ROM to come by.
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That step is only if you want to flash ROMs, or need to wipe cache, dalvik, etc. CWM is used for flashing and recovery/backup purposes. If you're not using ROMs yet, then you have no need for it.
nickmv said:
Hmm, interesting. Did you flash the interim recovery that Paul O Brien posted, and not another version? Just wanna make sure. I've heard of this happening in my past experience with the Nexus S, but I can't recall what the deal was. Regardless, I don't think you're in trouble. As with your GNex, it's very hard to completely brick the device unless you flash perhaps a bad hboot file, however I'm not really familiar with HTC devices.
This is my first HTC so I'm still trying to learn how the hboot and other processes work together. Sry to hear you had bad luck.
UPDATE: You should try the root install script. It tells the phone to boot after install. That might get you booted atleast.
Some thoughts:
1. Flash the stock recovery back and reflash CWM
2. Clear cache and dalvik within CWM, and make sure to use the 'Reboot System' option if you aren't already.
From what I can tell, your "boot-to-recovery" flag is set on the phone, and isn't getting cleared.
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thanks for the tips, i had tried clearing cache/dalvik within CWM and it still would not work. and yes i did flas the interim CWM from paulobrien
luckily the phone would work via ADB while in CWM. So i pushed three different ROMS to the phone, at first each oen would lock up and reboot within 20 seconds of doing anything. I then went back into recovery & wiped data/cache/dalvik maybe 10 times out of sheer frustration. Then re-flashed a fresh copy of black_dragon_v4.0, didnt do anything after boot. just let it sit there till this morning.
now the phone seems to be working perfectly...
so hopefully if anyone encounters this problem my last couple posts will help them out!
suhailtheboss said:
thanks for the tips, i had tried clearing cache/dalvik within CWM and it still would not work. and yes i did flas the interim CWM from paulobrien
luckily the phone would work via ADB while in CWM. So i pushed three different ROMS to the phone, at first each oen would lock up and reboot within 20 seconds of doing anything. I then went back into recovery & wiped data/cache/dalvik maybe 10 times out of sheer frustration. Then re-flashed a fresh copy of black_dragon_v4.0, didnt do anything after boot. just let it sit there till this morning.
now the phone seems to be working perfectly...
so hopefully if anyone encounters this problem my last couple posts will help them out!
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Wow, I have no idea dude. That sounds kinda crazy. Hopefully all will be well in the future and you won't come across it again.
the only variable i can think of is that i did have the phone about a week before launch. HTC mailed it to me directly.
I thought maybe that had somethign to do with it, but as far as i can tell the phone was the final shipping version.
I sent you a PM, trying to find a solution.
Roms for phones with Use External Sd like as Internal Memory..is dangerous & Bad Idea
Is a very Great Dangerous
I had a really bad experience.
Months ago, I unlocked boot my girlfriend Xperia J, no problems. Root, recovery etc...backup previous rom and later.... I tested moded stock roms like as Avd but no complete satisfaction. Later with boot unlocked, install Fijotour Rom, fast rom but problems with language and other applications... then finally decide Install last cianogen Mod 10 fpr J and backup again phone with cmw recovery and FlashtTool.... no problems. Al Ok system work without problems for 1 month + .
My girlfriend Sd Card is Samsung Sd Class10 64Gb , Yes work on J.
Then I saw, my girlfriend install a lot of games and aplicattions ... and ... phone slow....
Finally search for use External Sd Card as SdCard or Internal Sd Card, ok I found Youtube manuals and web manuals for change parameters on Archive in /system/etc ... I decide change and then...
Restart phone, init fine and I saw, on Storage, Phone Internal Memory, External Sd card as Internal Memory Storage, and read internal sdcard as only one sdcar... All Ok... great job!!!!.... BUT.........
In use phone then appears stopped aplicattion erros, "aplicattion finished, aplication stopped".... etc... I said... "hmmmm is posible corrupt flash for this change... is better I try go to Cmw recovery and wipe for erase possible corrupt bad data........ And yes I went to Cmw Recovery, wipe, and for better safe (I thinked), install Cianogen Mod 10 again and Gapps.... ok all ok... Cmw recovery confirm me flash sucessfull and gaps sucessfull too... remove batery and.......
Never init again. Pnone no led, no init, no charge. Hard Bricked. Only appears Quantum generic dispositive when connect to Pc... but no possible flash or recover it... Buyed external charge and two more batterys, charge 100% 3 batterys.... but nothing.... Phone Complete Dead. NO flash mode, no fastboot mode, no init, no leds... nothing.
Finally send phone to my phone company, (Phone had a 2 warranty years, and I only spent 1).... "Bricked for use bad software".... "No possible repair, need change motherboard Phone"... I respond, "Ok, is my fault, I will pay repair".... Finally they send to Sony and change motherboard and for cortesy Sony no claim me money, accept repair with warranty, no need pay for repair... great luck. Phone init, configure, but no attach networks... replaced motherboad is in not good condition, appears imei motherboad down. Then need send again phone, and finally months later, replace phone for complete. They send me New Xperia J phone.. "Hey man... remember, you broken phone for bad software"...
My girlfriend new phone has a boot with unlock option yes, but I prefer no unlock it. I want wait for finish warranty and then is possible, I will decide open boot and install Kitkat rooms.. I need now a stock modded rom with locked bootloader compatibility.
Then I selected rom for Xperia J AlienV6.
I install Doomlord root, and later super pro (I buyed time ago), install bat and later recovery archive with flashtool, power off phone init go to cmw recovery and install Alien V6 rom, later flash with Jb kernel 31 (i had a last Jb rom official).
All ok, extrange init... no apears menus... tutorial install fail... but finally I go to Settings. configure all, restart, again to settings, configure others, restart, and finish all ok...
Room is good at first time, fast and decent stable is not a Cm but is good... but I check in Storage Settings section and I look.... External SD Card as Internal!!!!!!........ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MORE RISKS!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!.
Please, new developers, remember, this a DANGEROUS option, please remove it for modded roms, No more bricks phones please.
I saw messages from moderatos and expert Developers, for not use this option in roms.... but people no listen.
I decide post this message for testimony, for advise to users. Risk for complete Dead brick phone is real with this option. I had luck, unlock my boot void warranty... but my phone company and Sony accept repair it in warranty for cortesy, only I say: "Thank you very much". If you bricked phone with this fail, needs replace phone motherboard.... and is possible you have pay repair or launch to trash your phone....
Thanks for your attention.
Greetings
Sorry for my poor English. I am from spain.
Filrond said:
Is a very Great Dangerous
I had a really bad experience.
Months ago, I unlocked boot my girlfriend Xperia J, no problems. Root, recovery etc...backup previous rom and later.... I tested moded stock roms like as Avd but no complete satisfaction. Later with boot unlocked, install Fijotour Rom, fast rom but problems with language and other applications... then finally decide Install last cianogen Mod 10 fpr J and backup again phone with cmw recovery and FlashtTool.... no problems. Al Ok system work without problems for 1 month + .
My girlfriend Sd Card is Samsung Sd Class10 64Gb , Yes work on J.
Then I saw, my girlfriend install a lot of games and aplicattions ... and ... phone slow....
Finally search for use External Sd Card as SdCard or Internal Sd Card, ok I found Youtube manuals and web manuals for change parameters on Archive in /system/etc ... I decide change and then...
Restart phone, init fine and I saw, on Storage, Phone Internal Memory, External Sd card as Internal Memory Storage, and read internal sdcard as only one sdcar... All Ok... great job!!!!.... BUT.........
In use phone then appears stopped aplicattion erros, "aplicattion finished, aplication stopped".... etc... I said... "hmmmm is posible corrupt flash for this change... is better I try go to Cmw recovery and wipe for erase possible corrupt bad data........ And yes I went to Cmw Recovery, wipe, and for better safe (I thinked), install Cianogen Mod 10 again and Gapps.... ok all ok... Cmw recovery confirm me flash sucessfull and gaps sucessfull too... remove batery and.......
Never init again. Pnone no led, no init, no charge. Hard Bricked. Only appears Quantum generic dispositive when connect to Pc... but no possible flash or recover it... Buyed external charge and two more batterys, charge 100% 3 batterys.... but nothing.... Phone Complete Dead. NO flash mode, no fastboot mode, no init, no leds... nothing.
Finally send phone to my phone company, (Phone had a 2 warranty years, and I only spent 1).... "Bricked for use bad software".... "No possible repair, need change motherboard Phone"... I respond, "Ok, is my fault, I will pay repair".... Finally they send to Sony and change motherboard and for cortesy Sony no claim me money, accept repair with warranty, no need pay for repair... great luck. Phone init, configure, but no attach networks... replaced motherboad is in not good condition, appears imei motherboad down. Then need send again phone, and finally months later, replace phone for complete. They send me New Xperia J phone.. "Hey man... remember, you broken phone for bad software"...
My girlfriend new phone has a boot with unlock option yes, but I prefer no unlock it. I want wait for finish warranty and then is possible, I will decide open boot and install Kitkat rooms.. I need now a stock modded rom with locked bootloader compatibility.
Then I selected rom for Xperia J AlienV6.
I install Doomlord root, and later super pro (I buyed time ago), install bat and later recovery archive with flashtool, power off phone init go to cmw recovery and install Alien V6 rom, later flash with Jb kernel 31 (i had a last Jb rom official).
All ok, extrange init... no apears menus... tutorial install fail... but finally I go to Settings. configure all, restart, again to settings, configure others, restart, and finish all ok...
Room is good at first time, fast and decent stable is not a Cm but is good... but I check in Storage Settings section and I look.... External SD Card as Internal!!!!!!........ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MORE RISKS!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!.
Please, new developers, remember, this a DANGEROUS option, please remove it for modded roms, No more bricks phones please.
I saw messages from moderatos and expert Developers, for not use this option in roms.... but people no listen.
I decide post this message for testimony, for advise to users. Risk for complete Dead brick phone is real with this option. I had luck, unlock my boot void warranty... but my phone company and Sony accept repair it in warranty for cortesy, only I say: "Thank you very much". If you bricked phone with this fail, needs replace phone motherboard.... and is possible you have pay repair or launch to trash your phone....
Thanks for your attention.
Greetings
Sorry for my poor English. I am from spain.
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You're right
Sent from my rooted B1-710 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Thanks for your testimony. This should be Sticky it's good warning.
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I flashed many roms on xperia j, including cm10, avd, seraphic, doomsday, miui5 and alien with swapped sdcard. I dont get any problems at all.
If you want a custom rom, you can push stock vold.fstab.
Somebody give this guy a medal.
Seriously, switching memories (aka "vold.fstab trick") is a bad idea, best not to do it. Ever. Ever ever ever.
This needs to be a rule.
I've never had any problems with swapped external, but for some people it will work fine once, twice and then it might hardbrick.
I agree 100% with OP. The thing is that my own phone was bricked by vold.stab trick. The first time it worked like a charm , but then after much flashing, it got reset , then i did it again and it got hard bricked. Fortunately, Sony accepted the warranty and fixed it. Good guy, Sony xD thank you!
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I don't think so
your fault I use alot of my phones with moded Vold.fstab maybe you moved other lines
the unique diference is vold change mount points in MNT not other you use diferent mount point to use on vold.
Vold not at fault because the vold does not touch anything on the system just does a redirect.
but it's okay to warn of something that could happen.I have years with this method and no drama
cheers,
NSDCars5 said:
Somebody give this guy a medal.
Seriously, switching memories (aka "vold.fstab trick") is a bad idea, best not to do it. Ever. Ever ever ever.
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And it's slowing our devices .
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TeamMex said:
I don't think so
your fault I use alot of my phones with moded Vold.fstab maybe you moved other lines
the unique diference is vold change mount points in MNT not other you use diferent mount point to use on vold.
Vold not at fault because the vold does not touch anything on the system just does a redirect.
but it's okay to warn of something that could happen.I have years with this method and no drama
cheers,
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The thing is, it's very easy to mess up.
Ok, I failed. but Normal instruccions for install new Rom say: "Wipe Data/cache"..
Sorry for delay on my response.
Ok, I failed. but Normal instruccions for install new Rom say: "Wipe Data/cache"..
And Wipe Data, Cache, dalvik, format only system win Modify vold.fstab for use external card as internal sdCard and Internal SdCard as external SdCard is = hard brick.
No all people in this forum and other Internet sites, knows that danger. I did not know. It cost the death of the phone.
I am a novice on Xda Developers, but I am no novice in computer/electronics. I am a technical.
I modify/repair for years, computers, computers components, Sat Decoders (I am builded and use Jtags), Consoles, Phones, etc...
But Murphy's Law says: Nobody is perfect. Nobody is infallible. We can all fail and make mistakes.
Like me, others broke down their phones. Hardware bricks. Not is a joke is a serious damage.
The risk is there. And it's a risk with very serious consequences for phones users .
The Xperia J hard brick can not be recovered, methods used in some phones to retrieve hard brick, not suitable for this model.
Thanks for attention.
Greetings.
Filrond said:
Sorry for delay on my response.
Ok, I failed. but Normal instruccions for install new Rom say: "Wipe Data/cache"..
And Wipe Data, Cache, dalvik, format only system win Modify vold.fstab for use external card as internal sdCard and Internal SdCard as external SdCard is = hard brick.
No all people in this forum and other Internet sites, knows that danger. I did not know. It cost the death of the phone.
I am a novice on Xda Developers, but I am no novice in computer/electronics. I am a technical.
I modify/repair for years, computers, computers components, Sat Decoders (I am builded and use Jtags), Consoles, Phones, etc...
But Murphy's Law says: Nobody is perfect. Nobody is infallible. We can all fail and make mistakes.
Like me, others broke down their phones. Hardware bricks. Not is a joke is a serious damage.
The risk is there. And it's a risk with very serious consequences for phones users .
The Xperia J hard brick can not be recovered, methods used in some phones to retrieve hard brick, not suitable for this model.
Thanks for attention.
Greetings.
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People learn from their bad mistakes, you don't really need to worry.
zephy09 said:
I flashed many roms on xperia j, including cm10, avd, seraphic, doomsday, miui5 and alien with swapped sdcard. I dont get any problems at all.
If you want a custom rom, you can push stock vold.fstab.
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I'm trying doomsday rom... its great but i've troubkle in swapping external to internal by editng vold.fstab...... Any suggestion? I tried this and after restarting nothing changes....
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I'm trying doomsday rom... its great but i've troubkle in swapping external to internal by editng vold.fstab...... Any suggestion? I tried this and after restarting nothing changes....
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Try this one. Its not flashable by the way.
I never thought that this would happen, especially after 6 years of being an ardent flashaholic but here I am like another noob requesting for guidance.
So it started a few days back when the Flashaholic in me wanted something to divert my mind from the monotonicity of a good ROM.I was using "[8.1.x][WEEKLIES] CarbonROM | cr-6.1 [bacon]" Rom on my 3 year old bacon happily when I decided to try "Crdroid ROM for OnePlus ONE crdroid-4.6".
As mentioned in the instructions I followed the steps to each word i.e. wipe,flash rom and then gapps (using modded twrp-3.2.1-K2-bacon.)and the ROM booted fine.I setup it as usual post boot however I faced few reboots which made me doubt myself so i thought of reflashing the same ROM again but the butter fingers got the best of me and while selecting partitions to WIPE( I guess) I selected some incorrect partition and after the flash my phone went into bootloop..
I tried to boot into recovery but I wasnt able to so but I knew I could boot into recovery using Fastboot so I reflashed the recovery while in fastboot mode and ran fastboot boot TWRP.img as I wasnt able to boot into recovery with VolumeDown+Power.I tried to fetch the nandroid backup but to my astonishment it was gone and my /data partition was wiped clean.I blame myself as I must have done something wrong as I was panicked.
Since then(last sunday)my phone has been in bootloop and doesnt start in recovery unless I boot recovery from fastboot. I have spent countless hours to fix it and the things I have tried already are mentioned below
1)Flash Stock rom (CM11,CM12,CM13)
2)Erase and flash persist.img
3)Flashed CM13 snapshot or bacon_firmware_update_2015_05-15_DI.3.0.c6-00241.zip followed by RR 5.8.5 ,RR 6.0 ,Carbon rom 6.1 and c-droid 4.6
4)Flashed coloros and then stock rom(CM11,CM12,CM13) or RR 5.8.5 ,RR 6.0 ,Carbon rom 6.1 and c-droid 4.6
I have gone through this awesome guide ultimate-answer-to-bacon-flavored- by @Timmmmaaahh ,other noob friendly guides indexes , compilations ,threads on softbrick and hardbrick topics and used almost every tool created for one plus one.
I have ruled out below
1)Volume button not working as I can boot into fastboot fine using VolumeUp+Power button
2)Battery not working as my phone can stay in fastboot for pretty much a day with 50% battery or bootloops throughtout the day
I am really out of my depth and I am trying to find where I had kept my nandroid backup on Laptop/Drive but I dont think even that can help me now.I have lost a lot of precious and Important data due to my panicking and wouldnt want to lose my phone so any help and guidance would be really appreciated.
Hopefully I am posting in the correct place and havent breached any XDA rules!Aplogies in advance if I have
you are sure, that you have flash thr TWRP and not only load TWRP via sideload into the ram?
please post the command, which you have send to the phone
So I use below command to install the twrp from fasboot
fasboot flash recovery <path/twrp file>
Also I've tried to flash twrp in recovery from twrp by selecting image file option but it doesn't boot into recovery ever
I've tried twrp 2.7,2.8,3.0,3.1 and 3.2 as well on every rom that I've flasher given the compatibility.
to boot into recovery as it's not accessible I use below command
Fastboor boot <path/twrp file>
Stupid thing it seems but try different micro usb cable
vedanth123456 said:
So I use below command to install the twrp from fasboot
fasboot flash recovery <path/twrp file>
Also I've tried to flash twrp in recovery from twrp by selecting image file option but it doesn't boot into recovery ever
I've tried twrp 2.7,2.8,3.0,3.1 and 3.2 as well on every rom that I've flasher given the compatibility.
to boot into recovery as it's not accessible I use below command
Fastboor boot <path/twrp file>
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Okay, let's optimize your environment first. Make sure the path to your adb is c:\adb (don't flash stuff like "c:\users\dinky doodle\my awesome downloads\android shizzle\recovery manizzle"). Use the amazing 15 seconds adb installer and let it install the drivers as well. @kallum7 makes a good point, do try that.
Use the TWRP recommended in my guide and follow the clean flash steps (including CM13 step again).
More importantly: check md5 hashes on all your downloads. You really want to avoid flashing a corrupted recovery download. Only continue flashing ROMs once you have a stable TWRP installation going. If it's not properly booting to TWRP, do not bother flashing anything else.
When successfully booted in TWRP, make sure MTP is enabled under mount and connect it to your PC. Browse for possible backups via your computer. If you can't find any, you've probably wiped internal memory. If you didn't make a copy to your computer, the data is most likely gone forever (sorry).
Panicking is indeed a bad idea, we've all been there and it's an excellent learning process (you'll appreciate your failures later, lol). It's better to work step by step slowly, make sure you read everything thoroughly. When in doubt, just post here and we'll follow up. We'll get there, don't worry.
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Oh and rename the recovery file to recovery.img and place it in your adb folder to avoid any complications. Less = more!
Because I had bricked my phone a few months ago and I changed my USB cable and it worked perfect
kallum7 said:
Stupid thing it seems but try different micro usb cable
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Thanks mate..I did try that but it didn't endure fruitful results
Timmmmaaahh said:
Okay, let's optimize your environment first. Make sure the path to your adb is c:\adb (don't flash stuff like "c:\users\dinky doodle\my awesome downloads\android shizzle\recovery manizzle"). Use the amazing 15 seconds adb installer and let it install the drivers as well. @kallum7 makes a good point, do try that.
Use the TWRP recommended in my guide and follow the clean flash steps (including CM13 step again).
More importantly: check md5 hashes on all your downloads. You really want to avoid flashing a corrupted recovery download. Only continue flashing ROMs once you have a stable TWRP installation going. If it's not properly booting to TWRP, do not bother flashing anything else.
When successfully booted in TWRP, make sure MTP is enabled under mount and connect it to your PC. Browse for possible backups via your computer. If you can't find any, you've probably wiped internal memory. If you didn't make a copy to your computer, the data is most likely gone forever (sorry).
Panicking is indeed a bad idea, we've all been there and it's an excellent learning process (you'll appreciate your failures later, lol). It's better to work step by step slowly, make sure you read everything thoroughly. When in doubt, just post here and we'll follow up. We'll get there, don't worry.
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Oh and rename the recovery file to recovery.img and place it in your adb folder to avoid any complications. Less = more!
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Hi mate,So I pulled an all nighter yesterday and was somehow magically able to boot in TWRP.I don't remember what I did but I booted into TWRP 2.8.7.0 and the first thing I did was check if any nandroid backup was there but I was disappointed to see my /data with free 55326 MB also no backups on my drive.All my data is gone and I can't curse myself enough for that,moving on so I did manage to gather my sense and flashed TWRP 3.2.1-K2 and flashed RR-O-v6.1.0 but the phone goes into boot loop again and again.
Since then my phone is displaying some weird behavior so if I unplug my device and start my phone the phone won't boot and wont go past oneplus one splashscreen so I thought my battery is gone but if I can go in fastboot mode or TWRP mode while being plugged in and unplug my device but my phone wont die,it'll be in the respective mode for ages.
I do have a clean setup (K:\oneplus\adb\) that's how I stayed away from this mess since ages but I guess I got too cocky.
I have religiously followed your thread and it has helped me a lot so once I am home I will check the TWRP part again and get back with the results.
Once again..thanks for your guidance.
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Hi mate,So I pulled an all nighter yesterday and was somehow magically able to boot in TWRP.I don't remember what I did but I booted into TWRP 2.8.7.0 and the first thing I did was check if any nandroid backup was there but I was disappointed to see my /data with free 55326 MB also no backups on my drive.All my data is gone and I can't curse myself enough for that,moving on so I did manage to gather my sense and flashed TWRP 3.2.1-K2 and flashed RR-O-v6.1.0 but the phone goes into boot loop again and again.
Since then my phone is displaying some weird behavior so if I unplug my device and start my phone the phone won't boot and wont go past oneplus one splashscreen so I thought my battery is gone but if I can go in fastboot mode or TWRP mode while being plugged in and unplug my device but my phone wont die,it'll be in the respective mode for ages.
I do have a clean setup (K:\oneplus\adb\) that's how I stayed away from this mess since ages but I guess I got too cocky.
I have religiously followed your thread and it has helped me a lot so once I am home I will check the TWRP part again and get back with the results.
Once again..thanks for your guidance.
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This is weird I just restarted my phone to see if it magically starts but it went into bootloop(displaying splashscreen not boot logo) in contrast to earlier when it died instantly when not plugged in also I can't boot into my recovery now!
Once I am plugged in and the phone is on bootloop and if I hold the volumedown+Powerkey it boots into TWRP properly..
This is just weird and I havent seen this behavious in the past three years of using my old lovely bacon
Try using the color os toolkit https://steemit.com/oneplus/@delusionalgenius/how-to-unbrick-oneplus-one-bacon and even though it says do not use if it is soft bricked use it this helped me
Sorry for getting back rather late (again). I'm in the middle of organizing an event and it's leaving very little XDA time. Anyway...
Isn't a hardbrick tutorial kinda agressive? I mean, I've used it before, and it's excellent, but then my device was actually hardbricked. I'd rather go for the 'back to stock' method first, setting the system back to CM13, which is a much better base for further flashing compared to ColorOS.
@vedanth123456 if you didn't take any action yet then I suggest following this thread (skip step 4!!).
The deal is to flash all images from fastboot. This will – naturally – wipe every single partition on your device!
I suggest doing the fastboot flashing manually (copy paste each command one by one) to avoid your device getting its bootloader locked. You DO NOT want to lock the bootloader on a OnePlus One if you ever wish to unlock it again.
When you successfully booted CM13, go though its initial setup, [disable recovery protection in system or developer settings] (it's been so long since I've experienced this process that I'm not sure if this option was present in CM13; if you can't find it, don't mind), get back to fastboot mode and flash K2 TWRP. First thing to do at this point: create a full nandroid backup of your working CM13 setup and copy it externally. ROM flashing should now be successful. If not, I'm afraid your hardware is failing. Do try several ROMs.
Don't forget to check those md5 hashes!
By the way, your /data is supposed to be empty after a factory reset. /data merely contains settings and app data (user added information). Backups and user media go to the /sdcard partition, which is known as internal memory. If I may suggest a ROM, go for CrDroid. It's more stable compared to RR, it's still actively developed and it has similar features.
Timmmmaaahh said:
Sorry for getting back rather late (again). I'm in the middle of organizing an event and it's leaving very little XDA time. Anyway...
Isn't a hardbrick tutorial kinda agressive? I mean, I've used it before, and it's excellent, but then my device was actually hardbricked. I'd rather go for the 'back to stock' method first, setting the system back to CM13, which is a much better base for further flashing compared to ColorOS.
@vedanth123456 if you didn't take any action yet then I suggest following this thread (skip step 4!!).
The deal is to flash all images from fastboot. This will – naturally – wipe every single partition on your device!
I suggest doing the fastboot flashing manually (copy paste each command one by one) to avoid your device getting its bootloader locked. You DO NOT want to lock the bootloader on a OnePlus One if you ever wish to unlock it again.
When you successfully booted CM13, go though its initial setup, [disable recovery protection in system or developer settings] (it's been so long since I've experienced this process that I'm not sure if this option was present in CM13; if you can't find it, don't mind), get back to fastboot mode and flash K2 TWRP. First thing to do at this point: create a full nandroid backup of your working CM13 setup and copy it externally. ROM flashing should now be successful. If not, I'm afraid your hardware is failing. Do try several ROMs.
Don't forget to check those md5 hashes!
By the way, your /data is supposed to be empty after a factory reset. /data merely contains settings and app data (user added information). Backups and user media go to the /sdcard partition, which is known as internal memory. If I may suggest a ROM, go for CrDroid. It's more stable compared to RR, it's still actively developed and it has similar features.
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Hi mate
Apologies for not acknowledging your message and not replying back earlier. I've been traveling using a spare phone and things just aren't the same on it.
To give u an update, I tried the steps mentioned in the link (which I had tried previously as well) but the phone didn't boot. Same bootlooping and issue with the twrp.
So I went through other forums and links and finally found an exe that worked.!!!!!! So the exe seems to be an modified version of the one mentioned in the hard brick method and has been created by someone else (NOT ME!!)
My phone after many moons has booted and its on the good old cyanogen CM 11.0 XNPH44S. I've tried numerous roms on this bad boy but there is some beauty in the simplicity of the good old roms.
My phone battery is charging pretty slowly and wifi is not turning on so I'm still tensed but the fact that it booted is a small victory. I would want to upgrade to a stable rom once my phone is charged and not displaying erratic behavior so I'll wait for a day and see how it works but I'll want to upgrade to a slightly latest rom probably not a battery hogging one.
I believe I'll have to first install an old twrp followed by nandroid backup(save on every goddammed devices I own), then some CM snapshot and finally the rom but please can you confirm and suggest.
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Hi mate
Apologies for not acknowledging your message and not replying back earlier. I've been traveling using a spare phone and things just aren't the same on it.
To give u an update, I tried the steps mentioned in the link (which I had tried previously as well) but the phone didn't boot. Same bootlooping and issue with the twrp.
So I went through other forums and links and finally found an exe that worked.!!!!!! So the exe seems to be an modified version of the one mentioned in the hard brick method and has been created by someone else (NOT ME!!)
My phone after many moons has booted and its on the good old cyanogen CM 11.0 XNPH44S. I've tried numerous roms on this bad boy but there is some beauty in the simplicity of the good old roms.
My phone battery is charging pretty slowly and wifi is not turning on so I'm still tensed but the fact that it booted is a small victory. I would want to upgrade to a stable rom once my phone is charged and not displaying erratic behavior so I'll wait for a day and see how it works but I'll want to upgrade to a slightly latest rom probably not a battery hogging one.
I believe I'll have to first install an old twrp followed by nandroid backup(save on every goddammed devices I own), then some CM snapshot and finally the rom but please can you confirm and suggest.
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Heya!
Well, this is legacy material so I kinda forgot what TWRP worked best for the older ROMs (2.8?). The latest TWRP should be backwards compatible and support CM11 so you can give that a whirl first. You're just making a backup (no write actions) and TWRP's are easily replaced with other version so there ain't much to lose. Anyway, glad you got it running! I'd still go with the CM13 flash before moving to one of the modern ones. If you encounter more bootloops, that same exe should recover it for ya. By the way, can you PM me a link to that exe? Who knows, it might come in handy one day.
As a stable up-to-date ROM I can really suggest crDroid. I've been using it myself for a few weeks now. @chineel is a talented and devoted dev.
Timmmmaaahh said:
Heya!
Well, this is legacy material so I kinda forgot what TWRP worked best for the older ROMs (2.8?). The latest TWRP should be backwards compatible and support CM11 so you can give that a whirl first. You're just making a backup (no write actions) and TWRP's are easily replaced with other version so there ain't much to lose. Anyway, glad you got it running! I'd still go with the CM13 flash before moving to one of the modern ones. If you encounter more bootloops, that same exe should recover it for ya. By the way, can you PM me a link to that exe? Who knows, it might come in handy one day.
As a stable up-to-date ROM I can really suggest crDroid. I've been using it myself for a few weeks now. @chineel is a talented and devoted dev.
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Try bacon root toolkit you can perform most of the things very easily.
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Try bacon root toolkit you can perform most of the things very easily.
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Hey man, thanks for pinching in. I'm personally not a fan of these toolkits as one can accidentally lock the bootloader and I prefer manual style because it's educational and you see more of what's going on. It's like I preferred DOS over Windows 3.11 back in the day. That's pretty much the same, right?... ?
Timmmmaaahh said:
Heya!
Well, this is legacy material so I kinda forgot what TWRP worked best for the older ROMs (2.8?). The latest TWRP should be backwards compatible and support CM11 so you can give that a whirl first. You're just making a backup (no write actions) and TWRP's are easily replaced with other version so there ain't much to lose. Anyway, glad you got it running! I'd still go with the CM13 flash before moving to one of the modern ones. If you encounter more bootloops, that same exe should recover it for ya. By the way, can you PM me a link to that exe? Who knows, it might come in handy one day.
As a stable up-to-date ROM I can really suggest crDroid. I've been using it myself for a few weeks now. @chineel is a talented and devoted dev.
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Hi Mate,
My perils seem not to end.So after the last update I tried to start my phone and it started but as soon as I removed the power cord the phone switched off.
I realized that the issue was with the battery so I got it replaced in one of the OnePlus Authorized service center.
The new battery with only one month warranty started just fine and I could see the phone hold power without the charger attached.So I reached home and did the below
1)Flash Twrp
2)Flash CM 13 snapshot
3)Flash cdroid and gapps
4)Reboot phone
Everything seems to work as expected other than the goddamn network and the wifi.My phone has no IMEI and ofcourse I have no EFS backup stored cause of my previous fiasco.
Any ideas mate,I see forums where itts told to install color os and then cm11 and then something but I dont want to risk anything anymore .
Any advice ?
vedanth123456 said:
Hi Mate,
My perils seem not to end.So after the last update I tried to start my phone and it started but as soon as I removed the power cord the phone switched off.
I realized that the issue was with the battery so I got it replaced in one of the OnePlus Authorized service center.
The new battery with only one month warranty started just fine and I could see the phone hold power without the charger attached.So I reached home and did the below
1)Flash Twrp
2)Flash CM 13 snapshot
3)Flash cdroid and gapps
4)Reboot phone
Everything seems to work as expected other than the goddamn network and the wifi.My phone has no IMEI and ofcourse I have no EFS backup stored cause of my previous fiasco.
Any ideas mate,I see forums where itts told to install color os and then cm11 and then something but I dont want to risk anything anymore .
Any advice ?
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you are going to have to use the colour os toolkit to get the imei info back there is nothing else you can do
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vedanth123456 said:
Hi Mate,
My perils seem not to end.So after the last update I tried to start my phone and it started but as soon as I removed the power cord the phone switched off.
I realized that the issue was with the battery so I got it replaced in one of the OnePlus Authorized service center.
The new battery with only one month warranty started just fine and I could see the phone hold power without the charger attached.So I reached home and did the below
1)Flash Twrp
2)Flash CM 13 snapshot
3)Flash cdroid and gapps
4)Reboot phone
Everything seems to work as expected other than the goddamn network and the wifi.My phone has no IMEI and ofcourse I have no EFS backup stored cause of my previous fiasco.
Any ideas mate,I see forums where itts told to install color os and then cm11 and then something but I dont want to risk anything anymore .
Any advice ?
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you are going to have to use the colour os toolkit to get the imei info back there is nothing else you can do
kallum7 said:
you are going to have to use the colour os toolkit to get the imei info back there is nothing else you can do
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you are going to have to use the colour os toolkit to get the imei info back there is nothing else you can do
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Mate ,can you please help me with the link ?
I know I can google it but I just dont want to take chances anymore
vedanth123456 said:
Hi Mate,
My perils seem not to end.So after the last update I tried to start my phone and it started but as soon as I removed the power cord the phone switched off.
I realized that the issue was with the battery so I got it replaced in one of the OnePlus Authorized service center.
The new battery with only one month warranty started just fine and I could see the phone hold power without the charger attached.So I reached home and did the below
1)Flash Twrp
2)Flash CM 13 snapshot
3)Flash cdroid and gapps
4)Reboot phone
Everything seems to work as expected other than the goddamn network and the wifi.My phone has no IMEI and ofcourse I have no EFS backup stored cause of my previous fiasco.
Any ideas mate,I see forums where itts told to install color os and then cm11 and then something but I dont want to risk anything anymore .
Any advice ?
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I'd hate to say I told you so ?
Don't worry too much. The cool thing about flashing with Android is that there's always other ways to get to a working system. Plus, having a fizzled up system is how you'll learn the most about how this all works. You'll be a pro in no time. I personally got seriously into troubleshooting with a hard bricked OPO that had a wasted flash chip. Believe me when I say that's a whole other world of pain.
One question: did you wipe system/data/caches between the CM13 and the crDroid flash? That's kind of important. It would also be useful to mention the versions of everything.
I have no first person experience with broken EFS partitions but according to what I've read you'll indeed have to get ColorOS running. You could try wiping everything again and flash CM13 to see if that boots fine (with working connectivity) but I'm afraid you'll have to go through the whole works: wipe all, flash or fastboot flash ColorOS, get it running (verify IMEI), flash TWRP and backup EFS (MAKE AN EXTERNAL COPY), wipe all again, flash CM13, get it running, wipe all again, flash crDroid + Gapps, wipe caches and boot to a (hopefully) working system. If EFS broke again you can simply restore the backup made earlier instead of starting over.
Mind that when I say wipe all, it doesn't have to include internal memory or you'll be wiping backups you might need later on.
Alright, here goes your 27th attempt. Good luck! ?
mate here is the link https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-unbrick-oneplus-one-t3013732 even though it says do not use on soft brick devices in your case you are going to have to