Has anyone noticed weaker signal on the Moto G vs other phones? I compared it to my GS4 at work and noticed in places te GS4 gets -108 to -109dbm the Moto G gets -112 to -117dbm, the data speeds on speed tests seem comparable, but that's a noticeably weaker signal which is surprising from a phone by a company known for great reception. I always felt the claims of weaker signal on some phones were mostly just crap, but now I seeing a noticeable difference. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Has anyone noticed weaker signal on the Moto G vs other phones? I compared it to my GS4 at work and noticed in places te GS4 gets -108 to -109dbm the Moto G gets -112 to -117dbm, the data speeds on speed tests seem comparable, but that's a noticeably weaker signal which is surprising from a phone by a company known for great reception. I always felt the claims of weaker signal on some phones were mostly just crap, but now I seeing a noticeable difference. Has anyone else noticed this?
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You saying that concerns me a little. My 2nd gen has always had a weaker signal than my wife's LG and weaker than her previous Huawei. I hope it isn't a trend for these phones, because there have been times when I can get no signal and she at least gets 1 bar.
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You saying that concerns me a little. My 2nd gen has always had a weaker signal than my wife's LG and weaker than her previous Huawei. I hope it isn't a trend for these phones, because there have been times when I can get no signal and she at least gets 1 bar.
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I'm not 100% sure, but signal seemed to be at least 2-5dbm weaker if not more in various other places as well. I returned the phone today though because Motorola dropped band 12 from its specs.
Hi thinking of getting a z5 or edge plus, the signal strength on the z2/z3 was very poor compared to my old nexus 6 on 3 UK. Whats your opinions? Signal is the main factor for me.
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I had a OnePlus One and a Note 3 before. So far, my Z5 signal quality is a lot better (green and yellow most of the time). With my OnePlus One and Note 3, same usage pattern, it would be red and yellow almost all the time. Nothing scientific here I know, but yeah according to the Battery menu, the Z5 is better than both of these phones I've used
It might be worth noting that manufactures independently determine how many bars are shown in the notification tray. For example, Samsung might display 3 bars at -116 db while HTC only shows 2. If you really want to compare this, you need to have all the phones you want to compare activated on the same carrier at the same time and use the discovery app to see what the raw signal strength (in db) readings are.
Today HTC's got a 40% off sale for the M9, the second they've had in recent weeks, so it looks like they are really trying to move it. I have an A9 and like it pretty well, but at $390 (US), how do users that have had both feel the A9 stacks up. I'm coming from the M7 and am enjoying the camera upgrade and better screen, but miss the speakers and HDMI out, though not enough to spend and extra $250 on the M9 at full price.
I'm following the threads on the camera over on the M9 forums and people are doing cool things, so I'm torn on returning this for the M9 on sale.
How do people that have made the jump feel?
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Today HTC's got a 40% off sale for the M9, the second they've had in recent weeks, so it looks like they are really trying to move it. I have an A9 and like it pretty well, but at $390 (US), how do users that have had both feel the A9 stacks up. I'm coming from the M7 and am enjoying the camera upgrade and better screen, but miss the speakers and HDMI out, though not enough to spend and extra $250 on the M9 at full price.
I'm following the threads on the camera over on the M9 forums and people are doing cool things, so I'm torn on returning this for the M9 on sale.
How do people that have made the jump feel?
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I prefer my M9. The A9 is VERY cool and I like it a lot, but just not as much as my M9. The A9 fingerprint scanner is extremely cool, but that's about the only thing I can think of that I like more. I prefer sense on the M9 and I know that custom roms will probably come to the A9, but there aren't any yet so the best you can do as fast a customizing is to root. The custom rom I use on my M9 is pretty close to stock, but has some nice tweaks that I've gotten used to.
I haven't tried the camera on the A9, but the M9 is good enough for my purposes (snapshots and videos of the kid). I also haven't tested battery life, but the M9 isn't very good in that regard, so I'm expecting the A9 to be about the same.
Marshmallow seems cool, but it's coming to the M9 by year end, so that shouldn't be much of a factor.
Are there any specific questions you want me to answer? I have both devices here next to me.
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Are there any specific questions you want me to answer? I have both devices here next to me.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have anything specific, just wondering what people feel. For me, the two big features I miss are stereo speakers and HDMI out. Neither of those are worth a bunch to me, but I miss them, especially when traveling. But at the same price...
That said, I like Sense and don't have much stomach for ROMs any more (too many late nights trying to restore my phone). The speed of M9 is meaningless to me, my M7 is still fast enough, though the bump in RAM in the A9 has been welcome.
The big one is the camera. I see what people are doing over on the M9 forums in the camera thread and the M9 camera is clearly better than it was first reviewed, but most of those great pictures seem to be lots of tweaking and attention. Do you feel the A9 has the better camera for "day to day" use?
It's not that I'm unhappy with the A9, I'm just eyeing the deal for what is ostensibly a "better" phone wondering if it's worth switching. I expect I'm not the only one wondering what the comparison is.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have anything specific, just wondering what people feel. For me, the two big features I miss are stereo speakers and HDMI out. Neither of those are worth a bunch to me, but I miss them, especially when traveling. But at the same price...
That said, I like Sense and don't have much stomach for ROMs any more (too many late nights trying to restore my phone). The speed of M9 is meaningless to me, my M7 is still fast enough, though the bump in RAM in the A9 has been welcome.
The big one is the camera. I see what people are doing over on the M9 forums in the camera thread and the M9 camera is clearly better than it was first reviewed, but most of those great pictures seem to be lots of tweaking and attention. Do you feel the A9 has the better camera for "day to day" use?
It's not that I'm unhappy with the A9, I'm just eyeing the deal for what is ostensibly a "better" phone wondering if it's worth switching. I expect I'm not the only one wondering what the comparison is.
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I haven't taken a single picture with the A9. The M9 camera is fine. It's definitely not spectacular. Those guys in the M9 camera thread recommend to not touch the screen in auto mode (to select a focus point) so sometimes the camera doesn't focus on the subject if your subject is not obvious (or centered). In low light, you definitely have to try to keep your phone steady to get the best results.
If you like the A9, the i don't think you should get an M9. It's not necessarily better than the A9, it's just different with different strengths ans weaknesses. I much prefer the M9, but i'm sure others much prefer the A9.
A9 camera is better than the M9 IMO, I have both. But still sucks compared to the iPhone..so yeah...Plus, I like the look/feel of the new A9 over the M9, size/weight etc.just hoping for VZW support sooner than later, and some custom ROMs as well.
I'd worked around all these crappy camera issues by just getting a Sony QX-100 instead. Now I don't have to care except for the crappy Sony WiFi issues.
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I'd worked around all these crappy camera issues by just getting a Sony QX-100 instead. Now I don't have to care except for the crappy Sony WiFi issues.
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Why go for the Sony QX-100 when you could have gotten a Sony RX100, forgone any viewfinder lag, added a flash and several other features, and still had kept the nifty remote viewfinder in case that sort of thing is important to you?
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Why go for the Sony QX-100 when you could have gotten a Sony RX100, forgone any viewfinder lag, added a flash and several other features, and still had kept the nifty remote viewfinder in case that sort of thing is important to you?
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Yup, that's why I solved that with a Mk4 of it.
My point is that we can get ahead of the smartphone camera race, if we really cared. Selecting a camera based on a smartphone is fairly pointless to me since phones are so "disposable" and varying quality these days.
A9 camera is better IMO. LIke the looks/feel of the A9, plus the price was right...but alas, no VZW support anytime soon...need to go back to cricket/att in 12 months...vzw was a mistake.
Here's a difference that is giving me cause to pause and consider returning the A9.
I'm not a video gamer so normally I ignore those type of performance ratings when phones are reviewed/compared. However, on a whim I picked up a free Google Cardboard from VZW last week. I put my M9 into it and had a great time experimenting with the concept. It was a generally entertaining experience.
Then, this week, my red A9 showed up. Yeah I can't use it on VZW yet but that didn't stop me from playing with it. Well, wouldn't ya know, the same Google Cardboard things that I played around with on the M9 performed poorer on the A9. Notably poorer. The part I'm talking about is around panning the image to and fro using the demonstration app. I suspect that this is due to the 3D rendered nature of the demo. The image, while panning, stutters noticeably on the A9.
This is the first phone I've had in a long time that wasn't running a Snapdragon 800 series processor and other top end components. I guess the M9's better graphics engine is coming into play. Bummer, because the A9's OIS is an attractive feature the M9 lacks. The fingerprint reader works fine but I wish the placement was on the back like my Nexus 5X. Other than that, I can't find many differences or have many complaints about the A9 vs the M9. But this one thing with Google Cardboard could be foreshadowing of something else I'll bump into down the road so i have to hurry up and make the decision on whether or not to keep it.
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The fingerprint reader works fine but I wish the placement was on the back like my Nexus 5X.
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I'm a nexus 5 owner. I'm considering getting a nexus 5x or an A9. Also considering just replacing my black 16 GB nexus 5 (that has a cracked screen) with a red 32gb nexus 5 since I love this phone so much.
What are your thoughts? I love the size of them all and all of their displays. The A9 is by far the best looking. Batteries are all about the same. N5 camera is worst of the 3. Fingerprint readers on the 5x and a9. Price of N5 is dirt cheap and the A9 is a little steep. 3gb ram on a9. 5x has the best cpu and I'm a big fan of nexus 4 and 5.
I'm torn.
Plus this forum is not showing much promise for development. Honestly, root is all I need, but it would still be a bonus.
Sorry for OT
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I'm a nexus 5 owner. I'm considering getting a nexus 5x or an A9. Also considering just replacing my black 16 GB nexus 5 (that has a cracked screen) with a red 32gb nexus 5 since I love this phone so much.
What are your thoughts? I love the size of them all and all of their displays. The A9 is by far the best looking. Batteries are all about the same. N5 camera is worst of the 3. Fingerprint readers on the 5x and a9. Price of N5 is dirt cheap and the A9 is a little steep. 3gb ram on a9. 5x has the best cpu and I'm a big fan of nexus 4 and 5.
I'm torn.
Plus this forum is not showing much promise for development. Honestly, root is all I need, but it would still be a bonus.
Sorry for OT
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I have a Nexus 5X, a One M9 and the One A9. I'm all One A9. Performance seems to be on par with the M9 and better compared to the 5X. The camera quality is better than the M9 and seems on par with the 5X.
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I have a Nexus 5X, a One M9 and the One A9. I'm all One A9. Performance seems to be on par with the M9 and better compared to the 5X. The camera quality is better than the M9 and seems on par with the 5X.
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Find it hard to believe better performance than the N5x considering internal differences. I've seen the A9 get bogged down with maps open and in background... Also saw it dropping frames while gaming where the 5x doesn't. I can understand it being on par with the m9 but only because the ui is more optimized.
I wish I could make the A9 and 5x mate... Give me a 32gb, metal, iPhone looking device with microsd support, 3gb ram, SD 808 CPU, and 5x display. Ugh
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Find it hard to believe better performance than the N5x considering internal differences. I've seen the A9 get bogged down with maps open and in background... Also saw it dropping frames while gaming where the 5x doesn't. I can understand it being on par with the m9 but only because the ui is more optimized.
I wish I could make the A9 and 5x mate... Give me a 32gb, metal, iPhone looking device with microsd support, 3gb ram, SD 808 CPU, and 5x display. Ugh
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I used the 5X for a month and I've been using the A9 for a month. Daily usage...A9 seems better. I don't really game too much other than Threes and some basketball game.
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I used the 5X for a month and I've been using the A9 for a month. Daily usage...A9 seems better. I don't really game too much other than Threes and some basketball game.
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Lol I don't game either, not on my phone at least, just happened to notice it and I was a lil put off...
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So are there specific daily tasks where the m9 shows the 810 issues? They say it is a lot better with last updates but I don't have one and here in Italy it's almost absent in the market.
I had an M9 and G4 and now A9, well the A9 is superior to both!
The screen doesn't suffer from poor viewing angles like on M9.
Sound quality with earphones is thousands miles better than G4 and slighty better than M9.
Camera is better than M9 for sure but not as good as G4 because of the poor dynamic light
Design wise it's finally different than M7 and M8 while very sexy and keeping the metal body spirit.
Battery is the same on all 3 devices.
UI speed on A9 is faster than M9, it's so fast that it feels like a liquid UI
The only thing the M9 has more is the wide custom Sense roms available, but the A9 will have a good one soon.
So yes the A9 is the way to go!
I also have both A9 and M9 and here is my response to your comments
The screen doesn't suffer from poor viewing angles like on M9.
- M9 does NOT have poor viewing angles. Don't make people believe on this.
Sound quality with earphones is thousands miles better than G4 and slighty better than M9.
- Probably. But then again, M9 is both EXCELLENT in speaker and earphone tests unlike the A9 who has tinny sound coming from the mono speaker.
Camera is better than M9 for sure but not as good as G4 because of the poor dynamic light
- Agreed. The M9 could've been considered GOOD if not for the lack of OIS. (Note: slight hand movement WILL make your photos blurry especially in indoor/low lighting so the 20mp is technically USELESS if that happens.)
Design wise it's finally different than M7 and M8 while very sexy and keeping the metal body spirit.
- and to those people who don't like iOS but would like to have a similar design to an iPhone 6
Battery is the same on all 3 devices.
- A9 is only good at standby. Use it normally and it WILL drain faster than M9.
UI speed on A9 is faster than M9, it's so fast that it feels like a liquid UI
- Disagree. A9 stutters esp when multitasking (switching from an app to another) while the M9 is a SOLID performer (just like the M8 and M7).
The only thing the M9 has more is the wide custom Sense roms available, but the A9 will have a good one soon.
So yes the A9 is the way to go!
- It's the way to go if you prefer to have:
1. A better camera experience
2. Fingerprint scanner
3. iPhone-esque design
4. Lighter and slimmer body
5. AMOLED screen
Cons:
1. Slower performance than the M9
2. No boomsound speaker
3. Perceived as an iPhone clone to some (I definitely argue with people who are telling me it's HTC who imitated. grrrr)
Well, I guess it would be fine for me. I'd rather have a smooth interface than a roughly fast one, but it's just me. I definitely understand who needs a fast phone and can sacrifice some of the ux. Anyone owning the red one to tell me how it looks?
Im struggeling between oneplus 2 and htc one a9.. what do you guys think is the best choice?
the snapdragon 617 makes me thoughtful...
Which phone is the best between HTC One A9 and HTC One M8. I own both phones but still don't figure out which one is the best. I have the A9 32Go/3Go version and the M8 16Go/2Go. The A9 gets a poor battery and can't hold more than a day. It's annoying.
I have a sprint A9, and battery is phenomenal on it, never owned an m8, but had an m7 before the A9, and the difference in battery is night and day between the 2.
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Which phone is the best between HTC One A9 and HTC One M8. I own both phones but still don't figure out which one is the best. I have the A9 32Go/3Go version and the M8 16Go/2Go. The A9 gets a poor battery and can't hold more than a day. It's annoying.
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HMmmmmm not sure..only have the A9
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I've owned M7 mini, M7, M8 mini, M8 and now I own One A9. I think the A9 is ok, software is pretty good, superb Amoled display, but believe me, M8 is much better performance-wise compared to the A9. It's a clear difference especially in multitasking. The M8 is a beast, and better selfie cam, better ultrapixel cam on the back in dark shots ( cand also shoot in 60FPS). On the A9, I like the design, the screen, super fingerprint scanner, but the speaker is garbadge very weak, selfie cam not that good fixed focus, performance is ok but still a mid-level phone. If you are a power user, go with M8, if not, the A9 is pretty good, but there are visible differences in performances. Cheers !
Since the phone is around 90% metal (ALKALIEDO)
How is the signal quality
I hope it's not like the note 4 which is getting only 1 bar
Just part of the rear panel is metal - the bottom strip is plastic, as are both the sides and top and bottom. Personally I get great reception from my XZ, better than the Moto X Style and HTC One M7 that precede it.
Very good reception , better than my Z5.. I think the decision for the plastic frame from Sony has paid off.
Yes, very happy with reception overall on my XZ.
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Better than my Z3
Thanks ks for the response everybody
Will be getting !y xz tomorrow