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HTC M4(News updated on #55) finally leaked news!

News updated on #55
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_readying_720p_jb_m4_and_budget_ics_g2_for_spring-news-5462.php
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
13M cam f/2.0(same as M7)
720p front cam
LTE
1700mAH battery
Sense 5.0 on JB4.2
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
I have a high chance to get M4 because I don't want any size larger than 4.3". However, my One S is still lovely and used only 8 months.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).

TheEndHK said:
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).
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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).

Vauix said:
Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
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You can trick the Power Saving on in JB, it will limit both cores to 1134mhz max on One S to save battery.
yup, I spoke many times in this broad 720P is a lot better(I was own a Xperia S and that is only a suck TFT mon, not IPS). QHD resolution is really not enough for text reading though. 720P does drains more cpu power over QHD because more pixels to render on screen so it's questionable to make cpu slower while the device actually needs more cpu.
All 1080P devices go with quad-core because they need even more cpu power to render extra pixels. 8960T is just a dual core ver of 1.7G S4 but with a upgraded GPU(Adreno 320).

HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.

Closed Source Project said:
HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.
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Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
I actually LOVE this device! the only thing i would change was the display. It shows quality all around. Incredible sound quality for both headphone and speaker, a slick (aluminum) design, great performance (was the best of its time) and a really really great camera. And although you can't fully unlock it and they released only a partial sourcecode doesn't mean its instantly trash.
Every single thing on the M4 is an upgrade for the One S, besides the CPU. And quite frankly I really don't see the use for a quadcore in a 4.3 inch phone with android 4.2. As the one S proved JB is buttery smooth on this chipset. Yes the IPS display will but its tax on the CPU, but with a lighter (and a lot lighter by the looks of the leaks) sense running on 4.2, I highly doubt you will notice it.
And yes I love the idea of the nexus serie and love the looks of stock android. But I never ever want it as a daily driver. It's just to formal and vannila for my taste. In the Gingerbread and ICS days i would have loved it because it was so much smoother than skinned phones. But JB brought a lot of chance in that, and the phone manufactures really stepped up there game with software development and drivers. Therefor a Nexus phone doesn't have any appeal for me AT ALL.

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Great! When this phone comes out, one s prices will drop!
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The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.

Goatshocker said:
The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.
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Since every other mid-range phone is running S4 1.5G now, I don't think HTC will use 1.2G on their 2013 new phone. Sony's up coming mid-range will use MSM8960T 1.7G dual, I think HTC will just follow Sony.

Vauix said:
Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
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Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.

AW: HTC M4(One S upgrade) finally leaked news!
I think apart from the weak cpu clockspeed(hopefully they will change to something like 1.5-1.7ghz), this phone is nice. But I think I am gonna keep my one S for this year and afterwards there will be new phones as well, so no need to buy one. One S is still just fine for everything.
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TheEndHK said:
Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.
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Thanks for your insight. But I think the MI-2 is worth another look. It's roots in rom development (the famous MIUI rom's) which are so succesfull they started building phones there self. I actually love the software and see more future in than in sense or touchwiz UX. They have monthly updates which are based on the miui community and by the looks of the reviews and benchmarks the firmware seems very optimized (all most the speed of the nexus 4, better audio quality than most high end phones, and photo quality is on par with the iphone and sony/samsung devices).
Many people view this phone as another cheap china phone, but I think it deserves a lot more credit than that. There are reports Xiaomi will bring the MI-2 to the US market this year, and is getting a lot of support all round (did i mention Qualcomm is one of the biggest investors?).
I don't want to sounds like this is the best phone on the market or that I'm completely sure I'm going to get one, i just want to raise it out of the budget phone segment.

HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to...
i have an un branded HTC ONE S, which has been good to me in terms of using custom roms/kernels without too much hassle.
rooting on the other hand was bit of a nightmare, but that was due to me not reading all that i could before i tried, which leads me to the pain in the a** S-ON and having to flash boot kernels/recoveries with ADB (which is no longer a problem with FLASH IMAGE GUI supporting our device)
also the16gb rom is a bit low...would like to have the ability to upgrade to 32
i really dont see too much of an upgrade for our device , the HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to root and mess round with custom roms and kernels, choose another device to upgrade to

This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.

djsubtronic said:
This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
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Lol, bit of an exaggeration there.......
I have had over a 1000 photos (including lots of 1080P and slow motion footage) on my S and still had 5GB left. I don't store any music on my phone so 16GB is more than enough for me and is for many others, nexus 4 16 and 8GB models as well as iphones etc. sell well enough so the ones who want 32GB+ internal and/or a SD slot are in a small minority.
Also, we have no idea yet as to what the camera lens etc. is not to mention software/driver tweaks/optimisation, so how can you judge the camera when the phone specs etc. haven't even been confirmed
Regarding the M7 camera;
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-m7-rumored-carry-43-ultrapixel-camera
So it could be the same for the M4, just the way the camera on the X and S are the same.

HTC obviously has got everything wrong if they expect people to NOT store music on a "beats" branded phone.

djsubtronic said:
This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.
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yup, both CPU/GPU will be slower than One S if it is real using the Qualcomm S4 Plus MSM8930 Dual 1.2G but I doubt that because it will happen the case on One S(S3) again, a great smartphone with slower cpu and terrible sales result.
The M7/M4 will both likely using the technology similar to Foveon X3 RGB 3CMOS on DSLR. It means 3 x 4.3M CMOS combined together to output a 13M photo, you get perfect color and white balance reproduction this time. However, low light and high ISO might be even worse because three CMOS there to share the aperture now, the photo should be darker and more noises appear.
It is absolutely a killer to Nokia Pureview808 and the upcoming Nokia Lumia 950(WP8 with Pureview808) in summer but might not be on the same boat with original One X/S and Nokia 920 which targeted at low lighting environment. I'll see how M7/M4 to handle low light with this new 3CMOS because low light is more important to me.

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If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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gock said:
If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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Because often when one is in low light conditions and wants to take pictures, they don't usually have their hefty DSLR kit with them. People only carry that stuff around when it's planned. If you go out for some drinks in the evening and want to take some pictures, the One S works wonders, and hence I actually really appreciate its ability to take decent pics in those scenarios without a flash.
Looks like I'll either be skipping an upgrade this year and stick with the One S, or sadly move to a different brand. Unless the M4 turns out to be different.

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Vauix said:
Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).
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Yes, and the lower processing speed will in fact increase the battery life too...
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Here are some photos of the M4:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m4_appears_in_front_of_the_camera_for_the_first_time-news-5498.php
The M7 specs/design has been confirmed:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m7_to_launch_on_march_8_in_france_priced_at_650-news-5496.php
The listing also confirms the specifications of HTC M7 to sport a 4.7" Full HD display, 1.7 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon quad-core processor along with 2GB RAM, 32 GB internal memory with microSD support, 4G, NFC, Android Jelly Bean and 2,300mAh battery
Furthermore, HTC M7 will be using a 13-megapixel camera with stacked sensor and ultrapixels for the first time and it will be interesting to see how the camera performs. M7 is also confirmed to feature the latest HTC 5.0 sense and Double HP techno Beats Audio.
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I imagine the black M7 will be similar to the black m4. M4 looks quite curvy/ergonomic and a bit thick so it looks like it will feel comfortable/nice in the hand.
By the looks of it, the speakers are on the front of the M7 too Also I am glad that they aren't going any bigger than 4.7".

[Anticipation] note 3 vs nexus 5

My next phone will defo be one of those, though solid details on both are scarce if existent at all.....
I really hope the 3gb ram rumours are true.
If there is finally no lag on touch wiz with note 3 I'll go there if not then nexus 5 steals my cash.
Right now feeling the pinch of UK s3 limit of 1gb ram, but still loving my first taste of android even a year later, my second phone the iPhone 4s only gets a look in when I need a separate business phone or this battery is low.
Originally intended to get a windows 8 lumia but they hadn't been released and ICS/jelly bean had ensured that I haven't regretted it
Which of the two do you anticipate more and why?
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Note 3 for sure. Note 2 is my favorite phone ever, it's only right that I get it's successor.
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Actually, most of the Note 3's specs were leaked today: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/09...ra-ii-and-galaxy-s4-lte-advanced-coming-soon/
Note 3, without question.

Wow crazy... If it gets 3gb ram too that thing is taking over my life! Wedding is off, she can find a new man, just leave me to my note 3, take the iPad if you want...
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Great. Thank you for your topic
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I like nuxus but i don't have money
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I have the original Galaxy Note and have loved it (came from a Galaxy SII). I've been wanting to get the Note 2 for the past few months and not sure I'll be able to hold out since I'm getting antsy for a new phone. If i can somehow suppress my impulse to buy the Note 2, I will be anxiously awaiting the release of the Note 3...after all, we're only talking a matter of 4 months or so..right? :fingers-crossed:

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I have the original Galaxy Note and have loved it (came from a Galaxy SII). I've been wanting to get the Note 2 for the past few months and not sure I'll be able to hold out since I'm getting antsy for a new phone. If i can somehow suppress my impulse to buy the Note 2, I will be anxiously awaiting the release of the Note 3...after all, we're only talking a matter of 4 months or so..right? :fingers-crossed:
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Note 3!!! Doing my best to hold out on upgrading my GS3 to the GS4 in hopes of the Note 3

datanetresource said:
I have the original Galaxy Note and have loved it (came from a Galaxy SII). I've been wanting to get the Note 2 for the past few months and not sure I'll be able to hold out since I'm getting antsy for a new phone. If i can somehow suppress my impulse to buy the Note 2, I will be anxiously awaiting the release of the Note 3...after all, we're only talking a matter of 4 months or so..right? :fingers-crossed:
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Wait for 3, seriously. It'll be worth it.
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I want the Note3 but, by the time I can upgrade it will new old news. So... what's next.
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Apart from the slightly bigger screen there is not a great deal more to get excited about the Note 3. 13 MP? Irrelevant. Worst : it is actually detrimental to imagine quality in such tiny sensors. FHD? What for? Now, if they improve the sunlight legibility of the screen which is IMO one of the drawbacks of the current screen, that might make me think twice.
I also have my eyes on the upcoming Xperia Z Ultra. Looks like a real contender to the Note 3 although I'm afraid it is just too big.

Wunderwaffe said:
Apart from the slightly bigger screen there is not a great deal more to get excited about the Note 3. 13 MP? Irrelevant. Worst : it is actually detrimental to imagine quality in such tiny sensors. FHD? What for? Now, if they improve the sunlight legibility of the screen which is IMO one of the drawbacks of the current screen, that might make me think twice.
I also have my eyes on the upcoming Xperia Z Ultra. Looks like a real contender to the Note 3 although I'm afraid it is just too big.
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FHD Why? Well, because some of us DO see the difference. I don't want anything below 1080 ever again.
Oh, I don't know. The 3GB RAM maybe? Or maybe the fact it's either going to be a Snapdragon 800 or an Exynos Octa?
The camera I don't give a sh*t about. I carry my DSLR everywhere anyway.

With higher density displays you do see a better quality even if you can't see any more individual pixels - the more pixels making up the smallest visible "particle" the more detail and colour clarity you will experience, it's like cd vs a brand new vinyl, the vinyl records lots of frequencies that the human ear can't pick up while the CD is limit to the human spectrum, yet vinyls on a good system that have not worn out the tracts yet have a much warmer palette of sounds, the insensible waves have an effect on the sensible and the same happens with screens, if you play a 4k video on a 1000ppi screen theoretically you'd see a far better image than on a 1020 440 ppi which is visibly better than on a 720 on a 326ppi which is considered roughly retina. Don't let apple brainwash you into thinking that retina is the best you can get, it's clear yes, but it can look nicer than our already amazing top end screens do.
Usually the difference isn't noticeable instantly, but when you try to go back to the lower quality you notice the difference, try looking at an old android device from 2010 or an iPhone 3gs... Blurry as hell but at the time I couldn't imagine a better screen.
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Samsung S4 or HTC One?

Hey Mates ...
i would get one of these phones ... which do u think is better??? batterylife, software compatiblity, ergonomics, etc ...
heeeellp meeee

We all have opinions...just find the phone that best suits you...im sure this thread will get locked
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We all have opinions...just find the phone that best suits you...im sure this thread will get locked
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I agree with this guy. I'm lucky enough to own both and an Optimus G Pro (I work for AT&T), and for ME, I prefer the One (and I actually like the Optimus Pro G more than the GS4). Both the One and S4 get comparable battery life. My rooted one gets 5 hours screen on time with 16 hours off the charger and will still have around 25% left. GS4 doesn't quite match that But it's not rooted and is all stock. They seem to both get through the day with no issues for me.
I won't make a long review as all three of these flagships are great, and the "down sides" to each is all really nit-picking, but here's why I like the One the most:
1) HTC Sense is now lighter than Touch wiz. In fact, all the cool features that I like about the GS4 make the phone seem to lag, or get stuck (like pausing while switching to landscape).
2) The GS4 reminds me of the GS3,just with added features (having owned a GS3,this bores me, but if you never owned a galaxy s3 then this won't affect you)
3) having kids the main selling point for the one is with the camera. Though it has less megapixels than the GS4, the Ultra pixels allow in more light. Also, it has both software and hardware image stabilization, while the GS4 only has software stabilization. Having two kids this was really important to me. The camera on the One doesn't look as good when zoomed in (because of the Ultra pixels) but I almost never get a blurry picture with the One whereas I do get a few on my GS4.
4) the screen on the one is just absolutely gorgeous. I prefer the truer colors of the One than the over saturation of colors on the Galaxy s4. However some people do prefer a more vibrant colors of the galaxy s4. The One has the best screen I've ever seen.
5) the build quality of the HTC One is absolutely amazing. It just feels like a work of art.
6) you get double the storage space with the HTC One as you do with the Galaxy s4 for the same price. At the moment SD card slots are becoming less important not just because of cloud storage but because apps have to be stored on internal storage. So the only thing SD cards are good for are pictures music and videos for the most part.
7) and lastly, because I love rooting my phone, the fact that the HTC One hardware and software are the same in both the US model and international model makes the development community bigger for the one in that I can flash roms made by people in different countries. With the GS4, the US model and international model are different making any international roms incompatible with the US galaxy s4.
As I said they are all great devices and like the post before me it really comes down to personal preference. everything that I listed above is all really nitpicking because the phones have their advantages each in their own right.
You really can't make a wrong choice here. I hope this helps!
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nkgangew said:
I agree with this guy. I'm lucky enough to own both and an Optimus G Pro (I work for AT&T), and for ME, I prefer the One (and I actually like the Optimus Pro G more than the GS4). Both the One and S4 get comparable battery life. My rooted one gets 5 hours screen on time with 16 hours off the charger and will still have around 25% left. GS4 doesn't quite match that But it's not rooted and is all stock. They seem to both get through the day with no issues for me.
I won't make a long review as all three of these flagships are great, and the "down sides" to each is all really nit-picking, but here's why I like the One the most:
1) HTC Sense is now lighter than Touch wiz. In fact, all the cool features that I like about the GS4 make the phone seem to lag, or get stuck (like pausing while switching to landscape).
2) The GS4 reminds me of the GS3,just with added features (having owned a GS3,this bores me, but if you never owned a galaxy s3 then this won't affect you)
3) having kids the main selling point for the one is with the camera. Though it has less megapixels than the GS4, the Ultra pixels allow in more light. Also, it has both software and hardware image stabilization, while the GS4 only has software stabilization. Having two kids this was really important to me. The camera on the One doesn't look as good when zoomed in (because of the Ultra pixels) but I almost never get a blurry picture with the One whereas I do get a few on my GS4.
4) the screen on the one is just absolutely gorgeous. I prefer the truer colors of the One than the over saturation of colors on the Galaxy s4. However some people do prefer a more vibrant colors of the galaxy s4. The One has the best screen I've ever seen.
5) the build quality of the HTC One is absolutely amazing. It just feels like a work of art.
6) you get double the storage space with the HTC One as you do with the Galaxy s4 for the same price. At the moment SD card slots are becoming less important not just because of cloud storage but because apps have to be stored on internal storage. So the only thing SD cards are good for are pictures music and videos for the most part.
7) and lastly, because I love rooting my phone, the fact that the HTC One hardware and software are the same in both the US model and international model makes the development community bigger for the one in that I can flash roms made by people in different countries. With the GS4, the US model and international model are different making any international roms incompatible with the US galaxy s4.
As I said they are all great devices and like the post before me it really comes down to personal preference. everything that I listed above is all really nitpicking because the phones have their advantages each in their own right.
You really can't make a wrong choice here. I hope this helps!
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I think S4 is a better choice cause it has replaceable battery... so u can use it a lot....

It all depends really if you prefer touch wiz or sense. Also if you want a removable battery or not. I picked the Gs4 because of the battery. As soon as I got my phone I picked up a ZeroLemon 7500 mAh battery and geat a solid 2 days of heave use and 2 1/2 to 3 days with medium use.
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I have the ONE and my battery life is great also..once rooted amd you gain control over the processors....you can get the same amount of battery life
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Neither. If you are wanting a phone for long term, you would be better off waiting for Snapdragon 800 CPU phones that are going to be coming out soon instead of getting a S600 CPU phone like the S4 or One.

I got a S4 and bought a aluminium battery cover (not case, just replacement battery cover). Doing so improved the build quality of the S4 substantially for me. I flashed the Google Edition rom because I dont need all the samsung features, really improved my battery life as well.

peva3 said:
I got a S4 and bought a aluminium battery cover (not case, just replacement battery cover). Doing so improved the build quality of the S4 substantially for me. I flashed the Google Edition rom because I dont need all the samsung features, really improved my battery life as well.
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I flashed Google edition to my s4 to but also bought it for the removable back cover to buy an extended battery. I love my zerolemon 7500 mAh battery gets me threw 2 days with heave use.
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ok let me tell you my optinion about +/- of htc one
+Awesome Design
+Bright Screen
+Smooth software
+Awesome sound
+Full HD screen
+GPS works very good (I Don't know how it works on S4 but on Dell Streak it was awful)
-Overheating!!!
-Have only 1 dead pixel [annoying anyway]
-Only 32GB [But only 26GB is available for usage] and No MicroSD card place
-Unremovable Battery
-Charging takes a bit longer
-Camera is 4 Mpixel [In spite of "UltraPixel", Image Sharpness of S4 is much better]
-Batterylife is not that good if you like to play games
-You just NEED a case cover because the aluminium in the back side can be easly scratched (not big scratches)
Аlthough its overheating, it doesn't start to lag, but Galaxy S4 does

think that HTC one.
+ official supported Flash player.
yet many site unsupped HTML5.
JB's unofficial supported flash player this.
helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
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sorry,if install please check "Unknown Source"

S4 anyday..
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samsung > HTC

I'd probably take S4 for the sexy screen. Then again HTC has awesome looks and feel..
Personally I bought S4.

Mediapad X2 vs P8 Max

Hey Mediapad owners,
I'm an owner of a Silver P8 Max and i was wondering which one was better.
Obviously the P8 Max has the better processor. but besides that i believe everything else is basically the same.
I kinda feel like i should trade down for the bigger screen and the battery, also i feel like the Mediapad is maybe closer to having a possible stock androidish rom created if it does ever happen.
Just let me know how you guys feel about you X2
Thanks

N166A LOG1K said:
Hey Mediapad owners,
I'm an owner of a Silver P8 Max and i was wondering which one was better.
Obviously the P8 Max has the better processor. but besides that i believe everything else is basically the same.
I kinda feel like i should trade down for the bigger screen and the battery, also i feel like the Mediapad is maybe closer to having a possible stock androidish rom created if it does ever happen.
Just let me know how you guys feel about you X2
Thanks
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Hi
I was considering purchasing the P8 Max but when I considered the differences between them, I decided to opt for the X2 as I wanted the largest possible screen. I am delighted with my choice and would not consider switching to the P8 Max now.

N166A LOG1K said:
Hey Mediapad owners,
I'm an owner of a Silver P8 Max and i was wondering which one was better.
Obviously the P8 Max has the better processor. but besides that i believe everything else is basically the same.
I kinda feel like i should trade down for the bigger screen and the battery, also i feel like the Mediapad is maybe closer to having a possible stock androidish rom created if it does ever happen.
Just let me know how you guys feel about you X2
Thanks
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According to some websites the P8 Max has Band 12 LTE support and will work on T-Mobile which is a plus. The P8 Max is less wide due to the 16:9 aspect ratio of the screen vs. the 16:10 aspect ratio on the X2. I was thinking of getting a P8 Max as well but the battery isn't as large as the X2's. The X2 having the wider screen is better for web browsing in landscape mode but most videos have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen due to the 16:10 aspect ratio. The P8 Max also has gorilla glass 3 and the X2 does not.

For my part the deciding factor was the wider screen and the battery in favor of Mediapad X2.,both of this factors were fully justified.

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According to some websites the P8 Max has Band 12 LTE support and will work on T-Mobile which is a plus. The P8 Max is less wide due to the 16:9 aspect ratio of the screen vs. the 16:10 aspect ratio on the X2. I was thinking of getting a P8 Max as well but the battery isn't as large as the X2's. The X2 having the wider screen is better for web browsing in landscape mode but most videos have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen due to the 16:10 aspect ratio. The P8 Max also has gorilla glass 3 and the X2 does not.
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Lets me say a few simple words: Battery life!
Gorilla glass is all good and well but anybody with a brain does not keep there phone in a easy to damage location.
Even basic glass is plenty strong. A large part of Gorilla glass is advertisement, making people feel good.
And yes, 16:10 means you may have a black bar with movies. Solution: Have your player play with 16:9 mode and you lose a few percentage on the sides. You will not notice if you do not deliberately pay attention to it.
On the other hand, you have more screen area for websites, comics and just about anything else.
Put the phone in 280DPI mode and suddenly you have a full blown tab browser and everything in desktop rendering ( and still perfectly readable )
Even coming from a Sony Z Ultra with 6.4" 1080p 320DPI, its a massive difference that this 7" 1200p 280DPI makes.
O ... and all that will allowing you to spend DAYS without looking at a power charger.
And frankly, i am sure the battery life can be even more improved if the 4G an be switched to 2G when your screen is off ( lets face it, 4G is useless when your phone is waiting for mail messages/text messages etc ).

I think I'm going to buy a media pad x2 from honormi.com and sell my p8 max

Benjiro said:
Lets me say a few simple words: Battery life!
Gorilla glass is all good and well but anybody with a brain does not keep there phone in a easy to damage location.
Even basic glass is plenty strong. A large part of Gorilla glass is advertisement, making people feel good.
And yes, 16:10 means you may have a black bar with movies. Solution: Have your player play with 16:9 mode and you lose a few percentage on the sides. You will not notice if you do not deliberately pay attention to it.
On the other hand, you have more screen area for websites, comics and just about anything else.
Put the phone in 280DPI mode and suddenly you have a full blown tab browser and everything in desktop rendering ( and still perfectly readable )
Even coming from a Sony Z Ultra with 6.4" 1080p 320DPI, its a massive difference that this 7" 1200p 280DPI makes.
O ... and all that will allowing you to spend DAYS without looking at a power charger.
And frankly, i am sure the battery life can be even more improved if the 4G an be switched to 2G when your screen is off ( lets face it, 4G is useless when your phone is waiting for mail messages/text messages etc ).
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You are correct Sir.

Benjiro said:
Lets me say a few simple words: Battery life!
Gorilla glass is all good and well but anybody with a brain does not keep there phone in a easy to damage location.
Even basic glass is plenty strong. A large part of Gorilla glass is advertisement, making people feel good.
And yes, 16:10 means you may have a black bar with movies. Solution: Have your player play with 16:9 mode and you lose a few percentage on the sides. You will not notice if you do not deliberately pay attention to it.
On the other hand, you have more screen area for websites, comics and just about anything else.
Put the phone in 280DPI mode and suddenly you have a full blown tab browser and everything in desktop rendering ( and still perfectly readable )
Even coming from a Sony Z Ultra with 6.4" 1080p 320DPI, its a massive difference that this 7" 1200p 280DPI makes.
O ... and all that will allowing you to spend DAYS without looking at a power charger.
And frankly, i am sure the battery life can be even more improved if the 4G an be switched to 2G when your screen is off ( lets face it, 4G is useless when your phone is waiting for mail messages/text messages etc ).
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Is it possible to put the phone into 280 dpi without being rooted?.

hagba said:
Is it possible to put the phone into 280 dpi without being rooted?.
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Yea... See this guide that i wrote last week: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-x2/general/mini-guide-adb-installation-usage-t3183906
Works like a charm. The same i can not say about the EUI that shows some bugs if you do not run the standard 400 resolution.

400 dpi seems to be working best, the others including 280 dpi, are not working well, eg: a folder icon is looking huge comparing to the other icons.

hagba said:
400 dpi seems to be working best, the others including 280 dpi, are not working well, eg: a folder icon is looking huge comparing to the other icons.
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That is because the default launcher from Huawei is set to 400 dpi. Use a alternative launcher and some of those problems go away. Unfortunately a lot is hard coded in Huawei there EUI software / settings.
The difference is best noticed in real applications that are not set to a fixed dpi.

The most important difference between them is the price

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According to some websites the P8 Max has Band 12 LTE support and will work on T-Mobile which is a plus.
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As usual with Huawei, you have different models under the same name, designed to various geogrpahic area:
Huawei P8max series:
P8max DAV-701L (4G LTE: 2100/1800MHz, source huawei th)
P8max DAV-702L (4G LTE: B1 / B3 / B7, source huawei jp)
P8max DAV-703L
P8max DAV-713L
but I have a lot of trouble to find some huawei sources for the LTE bands of each models, as third party web sites are usually wrong about that (when they precise the model number, wich is quite rare!!)

Hi! I am interested in buying a P8MAX. You've given me something to think about... I have never bought a phone not straight from Verizon so I am completely clueless about where to purchase an X2 for use in the USA. I am not a developer by any stretch of the imagination. I will use it as is out of the box. I realize that I will have to switch cell providers but don't know which one would best support either the P8max or the X2. Anyone have good experience with one they can recommend? I did message with someone in Virginia (same state that I am in) with a P8MAX who said that he uses Cricket with good results except that he gets 4G and not 4G LTE... any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!
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VillaRegina said:
Hi! I am interested in buying a P8MAX. You've given me something to think about... I have never bought a phone not straight from Verizon so I am completely clueless about where to purchase an X2 for use in the USA. I am not a developer by any stretch of the imagination. I will use it as is out of the box. I realize that I will have to switch cell providers but don't know which one would best support either the P8max or the X2. Anyone have good experience with one they can recommend? I did message with someone in Virginia (same state that I am in) with a P8MAX who said that he uses Cricket with good results except that he gets 4G and not 4G LTE... any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!
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You will only get 3G on T-mobile and AT&T with the X2. I think the same with the P8 Max (unless it has band 12 which you will get LTE on T-Mobile anywhere they upgraded to band 12. The X2 is cheaper so it's a better deal.

Noone is mentioning that the P8max comes in max 64GB ROM but X2 is only 32GB ROM. I just had an issue with not having enough ROM memory on my 16GB Note2 and had to delete some apps! I don't root or modify my phone in any way - don't know how! So how important is that extra 32GB in the P8max?
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VillaRegina said:
Noone is mentioning that the P8max comes in max 64GB ROM but X2 is only 32GB ROM. I just had an issue with not having enough ROM memory on my 16GB Note2 and had to delete some apps! I don't root or modify my phone in any way - don't know how! So how important is that extra 32GB in the P8max?
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Totally non-important because you can simply buy a 64GB SD card for 25 euro, giving you 96GB of data space on the X2. Or you can buy a 128GB card... Had 16GB+64GB SD on my ZU, still had 6GB left on my ZU's internal flash with two years of programs installed. The 32GB flash on the X2 made me lazy because i did not even remove the navigation maps to the SD card. *lol*
By the way: ROM stands for Read Only Memory.

Hi! Thanks for explaining ROM to me. Shows how little I know! But I have a 64GB sdcard in my Note2 (largest allowed, I believe) but my 16 GB internal phone memory (?) Got used up by (really, not too many) apps! All my files, pictures, etc. Are on the 64GB card! I really was shocked when I got the message!
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I have had issues with not enough memory on 16GB devices but never on 32GB devices. I use the internal ROM for Apps and an SD card for data such as photos. 64GB is overkill if you have an SD card as well.

One saving grace for the P8max is that it has OIS for the camera. This would show up in the quality of photos taken on it vs others with no OIS.

A light phone - should I get Idol 3?

I am looking for a new sub 4.8” phone. I had S4 mini once and the size was perfect. I then upgraded to LG G2 and it is frequently inconvenient to carry. Actually, I care more for weight than for size, so if the phone is light, I could go for something bigger.
The things I MUST have:
- good camera: At least on the S4 level
- very good battery life
- MicroSD card slot, OR at least 50GB internal storage
- Android M: from manufacturer, I need photo quality at the highest possible level so that rules out CM13
- root
Things it would be nice to have, but can live without:
- NFC
- dual sim
- waterproof
Things I do not care for at all:
- gaming: I have been using a smartphone since 10 years now, and not once I played a game on it
- production year: I don’t care if the phone is 2016 or 2013, as long as it fits the bill
Here are the phones I already considered and rejected:
- Xperia Z3c: perfect phone with clown camera
- Xperia Z5c: after 4 hours of research it looks like Sony again made the camera not very good (might reconsider if it turns out the camera is actually good)
- Galaxy S5 mini: I read it is a downgrade form S4 mini (but if it is only about GPU then I might reconsider)
- LG G2 mini: good camera, size and battery, but no M, LTE and 1 GB of ram is a serious tradeoff
- Redmi 3: bad camera
- Mi4c: so-so camera and battery life
- Mi5: size, so-so camera
- Meizu Pro 5: OMG this phone is PERFECT... Except for being a shovel. Such a pity they never completed Pro 5 Mini.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
Contry: EU
Use: phone, podcasts, camera!, navigation

I guess you have it figured out already.
Honestly,if you want a decently performing phone,the Idol 3 4.7 isn't a great choice.
If I were you,I would go straight for the Z5C,because it is a great device.
One of my friends has it,and I can tell you this:
Despite the fact that it is too small for ME,it is one hell of a mini-phone.
And also,just like on many devices,a camera can reach its full potential with right tweaks(for example 4K on the LG G2). And a SONY camera on the Z5c is no joke in general.
This is just my opinion,and I wish you luck in finding the right phone. :good:
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if need small size get iphone se. i think there is best camera phone for 4-4,8". for android - samsung a3 2016? but if you can take 5.2' size get lg nexus 5x

My friend got the lg g4 and I thought the idol 3 was light. The g4 feels half the weight, in comparison, and it has a great camera
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wiemar said:
if need small size get iphone se. i think there is best camera phone for 4-4,8".
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I am a power user running all kind of production background processes on my phone. I would not be able to live with an iPhone.
wiemar said:
but if you can take 5.2' size get lg nexus 5x
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As mentioned in the OP, I require 50+GB storage which rules out 5x.
wiemar said:
for android - samsung a3 2016?
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That one is actually interesting. I will look into that. But the weigh is nearly as much as 5.2" Lg G2 and that is a bigger problem than size for me.

mrcorey said:
My friend got the lg g4 and I thought the idol 3 was light. The g4 feels half the weight, in comparison, and it has a great camera
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According to this: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6901&idPhone2=7080&idPhone3=7081
G4 is 10 grams heavier than large Idol 3 and 44 grams heavier than Idol 3 4.7"

impactor said:
According to this: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6901&idPhone2=7080&idPhone3=7081
G4 is 10 grams heavier than large Idol 3 and 44 grams heavier than Idol 3 4.7"
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I don't dispute the numbers. Perhaps it was the shape, but it felt really light. I'd recommend the idol 3, though. It's an awesome phone for the price, which is falling every day.
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